Trip Reports - BOS (South Station) - NYC (Penn) in F (Amtrack Acela Express)




meFIRST
Jan 2, 02, 4:57 pm
I am a member of the Amtrak Guestrewards program, and routinely travel DCA-LGA on the shuttle, and sometimes I do take the train. Check out my trip report to compare Amtrak vs. The Shuttle

BOS-LGA on DL shuttle (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum81/HTML/002434.html)

The took the train because I had a LGA-DCA return on DL, and wanted to stop at Macy's on the way(which is right next to Penn station)

There is no tier prog on Amtrak Guestrewards, so everyone has the same privilages. Just miles (212 actual, with a total of 750 for this trip including a F class bonus, which I can exchange 1:1 to UA MP).

Though I have suggested to someone high up in Amtrak (hint : he was a former presidential candiate), so impliment a tier prog, with some priority services. Like an Amtrak gold line, at Penn Station NYC!!! and priority boarding. It's in the works I hear.

I took the 6:17 am , the Acela train #2153.
Ticket was in F, Boston to New York City
Travel time posted : 3 hours, 57 minutes

Travel time actual : 3 hours, 41 minutes

Top speed : 115~ mph?. I was told that the train can go faster (150 mph) but the tracks are so old they can't handle it.

F gets you to the Amtrak Metropolitan Lounge. Got to Boston South Station and asked for the lounge. They don't know where it is!. They paged someone and I was escorted to the lounge.

It looks impressive (left overs from the golden age of train travel), the decor was redone but there was no food, or bagels, just coffee. (Kind of like the United domestic RCC). There was someone manning the club. Plenty of conference room space, with plenty of phones and an internet terminal. Lots of space. So much potential. But I was the only one in the club!. The whole lounge was empty (well it was early)

Boarded the train. Now the train is simmilar to the Eurostar, french TGV, but smaller. The F car is the first one, to the front of the car.

The seats are not spactacular, in fact they are simmilar to the rest of the train, just with some additional leg room. All the seats have two standard power plugs, so I could power up my laptop+zip drive. There are overhead bins, just like an airplane, but smaller. The F car also has an F bathroom, which is so roomy, two people could fit in it easily (imagine the possibilities)

Seating is preassinged, and I asked if I could sit somewhere else, and the RA (rail attendants) moved me. (this would later unfold in to major drama, read on).

If you are in F car, ask for the seats at front of or the back most of the car (if you can). These are the single seats. Those are by far the best F seats on the train. You get (your own folding table, lots of privacy, and a personal rail phone attached to the seat). This is also the diabled seat. The galley is right behind you, so the RA's (rail attendants) will be able to serve you better. There were two RA's serving the F car, both were kind of cute.

Most of the F pax boarded at 128 Dedham Corp Center stop. After that the F car was almost full.

Breakfast was then served. Choice of a eggs benidt, pancakes or continental breakfast (creal, oatmeal, etc), all served with bread/toast, fresh coffee. Complimentary WSJ/USA today. There is also a magazine rack at the back of the F car. Looked at the Booze menu, standards available, including Bailey's irish cream which I had with my coffee. All complimentary.

The food was served on a tray with real china with the Amtrak logo, and silverware (no plastic knives here). The salt and pepper shakers were in the shape of the acela logo. Napkins and linen. With the RA's walking down with bread servings, butter. Food portions were simmilar to domestic F at UA.

Pretty soon we were in CT and rolling down to New York. Then at Greenwich, CT two men boarded the train and made a fuss, claiming that I stole their seats.

"This is first class, and we want our seats and I not going to ride facing backwards all the way to New York", said one the men. You don't need to go to NYC to see drama, just get on a vehicle that goes to the city.

RA's tried to calm the situation, I tried to save the RA's face and moved to another seat, still facing forward. Plenty of room in the F car, so I couldn't care.

The seat I moved to were table style (think a Gulfstream jet), 4 F style seats facing each other.

The train runs the fastest between MA and CT, and once you get to NJ it slows down.

I took a walk to the regular Business section of the train, and the seats are the same, just closer together. No RA service, and food if from the cafe car, limited and a little pricey for the food you're getting. There are no seats at the cafe car, euro style standing at the high table kind of thing.

Pretty soon we're in New York City and I'm off shopping.

Nice trip Downtown-Downtown, I still like flying. It's just a personal preferance. Going home on the DL shuttle.
(edited for typos)

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STAM4NICK
Jan 2, 02, 5:55 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by meFIRST:

F gets you to the Amtrak Metropolitan Lounge. Got to Boston South Station and asked for the lounge. They don't know where it is!. They paged someone and I was escorted to the lounge.

It looks impressive (left overs from the golden age of train travel), the decor was redone but there was no food, or bagels, just coffee. (Kind of like the United domestic RCC). There was someone manning the club. Plenty of conference room space, with plenty of phones and an internet terminal. Lots of space. So much potential. But I was the only one in the club!. The whole lounge was empty (well it was early)


The seats are not spactacular, in fact they are simmilar to the rest of the train, just with some additional leg room. All the seats have two standard power plugs, so I could power up my laptop+zip drive. There are overhead bins, just like an airplane, but smaller. The F car also has an F bathroom, which is so roomy, two people could fit in it easily (imagine the possibilities)

Seating is preassinged, and I asked if I could sit somewhere else, and the RA (rail attendants) moved me. (this would later unfold in to major drama, read on).

If you are in F car, ask for the seats at front of or the back most of the car (if you can). These are the single seats. Those are by far the best F seats on the train. You get (your own folding table, lots of privacy, and a personal rail phone attached to the seat). This is also the diabled seat. The galley is right behind you, so the RA's (rail attendants) will be able to serve you better. There were two RA's serving the F car, both were kind of cute.

Pretty soon we were in CT and rolling down to New York. Then at Greenwich, CT two men boarded the train and made a fuss, claiming that I stole their seats.

"This is first class, and we want our seats and I not going to ride facing backwards all the way to New York", said one the men. You don't need to go to NYC to see drama, just get on a vehicle that goes to the city.

RA's tried to calm the situation, I tried to save the RA's face and moved to another seat, still facing forward. Plenty of room in the F car, so I couldn't care.

The seat I moved to were table style (think a Gulfstream jet), 4 F style seats facing each other.

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I have taken Amtrak about 4 times in F along between WAS and BOS so I know alot of the ins and outs.

1. The bathroom is so large because it is accessible for those with disabilities.

2. I did not know the train stopped in Greenwich CT, maybe it was Stamford CT, but nonetheless that would not be a surprising remark from someone from Greenwich, like me, (FYI the person was not at all me)

3. When did they start assigned seating for F class again? I took my 4 trips about a week after 9/11 and had gotten my tickets online and requested 4F (I do not care which way I am facing), but my BP did not state a seat, and the RA's said they no longer do seat assignments becuase people always moved around with out courtsey.

4. I had trouble finding the BOS Metropolitan Lounge as well. There was no sign above it at all and you do have to be buzzed in. I just happened to find it by realizing it was not labeled and looking through the window and decided this must be it and then the lounge attendant came up behind me.

5. They do have this new thing coming out called Club Acela (basically just a refurbished Metro Lounge) and they are supposed to add food etc...

6. Yes the lounge is very big, with more than enough chairs and tables and I like the TV area

Great Report!

JS
Jan 2, 02, 6:26 pm
Thanks, I enjoyed the trip report.

Like F on a plane, where there are no middle seats, seat assignments are more trouble than they're worth IMHO.


pmv
Jan 3, 02, 6:41 am
How much does an F ticket go for nowadays?

meFIRST
Jan 3, 02, 9:47 am
One way, walk up BOS-NYC was $183 (compared with DL shuttle, full Y $400+, post 9/11 is was reduced to $190+). RT (I think) is double that. Amtrak's fare structure is very simple, because it's all reserved coach, there is very little advance fares that i know of on the acela express. You might find that on the regular train.


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BizJet
Jan 3, 02, 10:10 am
Amtrak's fares are very simple.

Each route and train type has a basic "rail fare". So if you are going between New York Penn (NYP) and Washington (WAS), the Acela Express has a basic fare, and the Acela Regional (slower, standard train) has a basic fare. Then if you want to upgrade to the next class of service, you pay a "accomodation charge".

The Acela Regional trains have coach class (unreserved), for which you buy a ticket and board any unreserved Acela Regional train. However, you might not get a seat and have to stand until a seat becomes available. You can upgrade to business class, which is for a specific train, and you get a reserved seat (not necessarily a specific seat, but there will be an open seat for you). I don't think any Acela Regional trains have First Class (see below).

Acela Express trains are all reserved, so the main class is business class. For an extra accomadation charge, you can upgrade to first class, which gives you drinks and food as meFIRST described. Right now you can pick your own seat online, but since there are so many varieties, they are indeed doing away with this eventually. It's not just aisle or window. There are single seats, forward/backward seats, conference table seats, etc. Too confusing to assign seats.

Acela Commuter trains between New York and Philly are all coach class unreserved.

Intercity Amtrak has coach class (reserved) and sleeper class (with accomodation charge), but I don't really know how this works, since I've never and probably will never take Amtrak longhaul.

There are other corridor systems (SoCal, Pacific NW, etc.) as well, but I'm not sure how they work.

markbach
Jan 3, 02, 10:55 am
and then, of course...AAA members get 10% off any fare, Student Advantage members get 15% off (but it doesn't seem to want to give me 15% off for Acela Express 1st class. guess it figures a student shouldn't be travelling in F http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ).

UA_Eagle
Jan 3, 02, 11:07 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by meFIRST:
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If you are in F car, ask for the seats at front of or the back most of the car (if you can). These are the single seats. Those are by far the best F seats on the train. You get (your own folding table, lots of privacy, and a personal rail phone attached to the seat). This is also the diabled seat. The galley is right behind you, so the RA's (rail attendants) will be able to serve you better. There were two RA's serving the F car, both were kind of cute.
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Did those single F seats have good window to look out? I'm considering taking Acela in F sometimes and from the seat map, it appear those single F seat didn't have any window next to them?

Thanks!

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meFIRST
Jan 3, 02, 3:15 pm
Actually those dicounts can be appilied to any other Amtrak fare, but not the Acela Express (I tried). It's thier preimum product.

I have a Student Advantage card that hasn't expired and a AAA card. Amtrak won't discount the acela fare or extra F cabin charge. However, a deal was worked out with out travel office, but since this was a personal trip, it was not applied.

As for the front seat, there is a window, ahead of you, but not next to you. It's good enough. It beats sitting facing backward.



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