Trip Reports - AMS-LHR-ORD-YYC-YEG on BA/AA/AA/AC




FewMiles
Mar 19, 01, 10:46 am
14Mar AMS-LHR on BA
14Mar Travelodge London Heathrow
15Mar LHR-ORD-YYC on AA, YYC-YEG on AC

This is the return journey for my trip report from: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum81/HTML/001610.html

14Mar BA 443 AMS 21:05 LHR 21:20 757-200 exit row seat 26F

My colleague was kind enough to provide me a lift to the Eindhoven train station where my journey begins. The familiar ride is about one and a half hours in length with a single transfer at Duivendrecht. 10 minute train delay and the next train is extra packed. No big deal.

I arrive at AMS Schiphol Airport and make my way up the escalator ramps to the Plaza and then departures area 1. The oneworld airline ops are pretty much all located together. Check-in is at desk rows 1 and 2. EI is located nearby but not in the oneworld "zone".

A really long queue (~40 long) led to the economy class check-in. Smiling, I instead get to turn the opposite way and find three Club Europe check-in agents with no queue. I had to wait two minutes because one of the agents had to get rid of a guy who should have been in the economy queue then this other guy jumped the queue on me. Oh well.

It turns out that there have been computer problems in London all day and they are having problems checking people in for the earlier AMS-LHR flight. I am checked in ok though and the agent attaches a bright orange BA priority tag. I asked if ow Sapphires get any fast track arrivals at LHR but the check-in agents didn't know. Oh well. On my way to the airside, I pick up various oneworld brochures and timetables from the ticketing desks nearby.

As I was really quite early, I spent the greater part of the next hour at the duty-free shops and then headed for the BA Executive Lounge. It's not really that big and the view from the windows isn't that great (it's right above the middle of where the E pier juts out from the main terminal and you see mainly the roof of the E pier). The lounge, used (I think) by all the oneworld airlines at AMS, is divided into three rooms of approximately equal size, one for smoking, two for non-smokers.

Light snacks (crisps or chips--whatever you call them, crackers) plus a selection of juice, pop, and alcoholic drinks are available. There are several newspaper racks around, but at this time of day there are no newspapers around. Also available in the lounge are phones and pay-to-use Internet stations. Coat and luggage storage closets are available but there are no washrooms within the facility (gotta go out the lounge and down the hall).

I relax for a while and have a snack and try out my new Sony NC-10s. Nice. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Departure time approaches and the lounge no longer amuses me, so I head off. Schiphol is quite quiet at this time of day, in contrast to its bustling morning peak periods.

When I get to gate D10, it looks like the previous BA AMS-LHR flight is still sitting there. The 757 is all ready for pushback but there's some mysterious delay. It finally leaves at 20:50, more than 1.5 hours late. Must be the same computer problem.

Meanwhile our own departure time was pushed back from 21:05 to 21:30 due to late arrival of the aircraft. They nonetheless go forward with the security screening at 20:50 with the plane scheduled to arrive shortly. Schiphol is an interesting airport with security screening facilities at each of the gates rather than having a centralized security point (except in one of its areas). The concept is quite different. As well as doing the security check, this is also the point where they scan your boarding pass and lift the flight coupons. By having everyone security screened and put into the secure holding area, they can close the flight in advance and make sure everyone is in the holding area before boarding begins. This is helpful for on-time departures.

Anyways, the aircraft arrives a few minutes after and I watch as the jetway mates with door #2 and the arriving pax deplane. We finally board at 21:30. I'm in 26F exit row with lots of legroom. Loading is light around 55-60% and empty seats are plentiful. Everything up to this point seems normal, with a small half hour delay. No big deal, right?

At 22:00 we are at the runway approach taxiway and come to a stop. Instead of turning on to the runway, we turn the other way! Captain comes on PA - we've got to go back to the gate because there were problems in the paperwork from the handling agent - FA who's sitting in the jumpseat opposite me says it's the same computer problems again. BA's computer systems controlling its operations all rely on the centralized system in London and that's been on the blink the whole day.

We get back to the gate and with the engines still running, the required paperwork is delivered and we are back on our way. I remark to the FA with whom I've been chatting that it's interesting that we've left the engines running at the gate and brought up the jetway -- that's not standard procedure is it? He explains that if the engines were to be shut down, then the pilots would have to go through a whole long checklist again to start them up further adding to the delay. The APU has been turned back on anyways, in case we do have to shut the engines off.

The FA (John) goes on to explain that one danger of leaving the engines running is with the the push back tractor. The push back rod (and the pin that connects it to the aircraft) is under additional stress because of the engine thrust and could snap. If that happens, the planes inertia would tend to keep it rolling backwards. If the pilots slam on the brakes though, the plane might tip up on its tail -- this was a particular problem with some older British-built aircraft where the center of gravity was further back than desired! (The proper solution, I am told, is to rev up the engines a bit.)

Anyways, we finally get back out to the runway and start our take-off roll at 22:42.

For the short flight, there is a brief "All Day Deli" style snack and beverage service. Snack is a corn bun chicken fillet sandwich with mustard butter and a Spa blue water. FA's serve an additional beverage of choice. They guy sitting in the aisle seat in my row looks pretty uncomfortable and zonked out (motion sick?) and doesn't eat or drink anything.

We land very soon afterwards and roll towards LHR T4. We're late. Good thing I am spending the night at an airport hotel. We get to our gate, deplane and go through the most ridiculous rat-maze of twisting and turning corridors to get to the arrivals area. No major queues at passport control and upon explaining that I'm just staying overnight, my passport (Canadian) is stamped and I am sent on my way.

Make the long trek over to the baggage claim and after a couple of minutes wait the bags start coming out. Mine arrives quickly sporting the bright orange BA priority tag. I exit customs through the blue channel and there are no questions about meat products or anything like that (foot and mouth disease outbreak).


FewMiles
Mar 19, 01, 10:49 am
14Mar Travelodge London Heathrow

I manage to get some GBPs just before the bureau de change closes and looking at my watch I realize it's past 11:00 PM already. Yikes. I make my way down to the Heathrow Express train station (long, long corridors, steep escalators) and hop on the train (quite a nice one!) for the transfer over to T1/2/3. I get off and go up the lift and find myself having to choose between T1/2 or T3. I choose T3 and go for a long walk along some boarded up corridors and finally make it to the arrivals area where I start hunting for the Hoppa bus. Circling around I find the bus station but the ticket purchase area has closed just a few minutes ago. What to do now? Finally the Hoppa bus for the Travelodge arrives and the driver tells me (to my relief) that I just get my ticket from him.

After a winding path around the sprawl that is LHR, we get to the hotel and I hop off. The earliest bus is 5:30 and my flight is 6:40. I don't think I'll make that, so after checking in I book myself a cab for 4:30.

My room is not bad. The hotel is somewhat old (obvious from the walls and hallways), but the rooms look to be renovated more recently. Owing to my early morning start the next day, I plop into bed pretty quick to catch a few winks. I thought I'd have at least two hours more rest, but the flight was delayed. Oh well. Sleep time.

15Mar AA 99 LHR 06:40 ORD 09:50 767-300 seat 31J

Next morning, I get up, pack my things and make my way to the lobby and the taxi driver has just arrived and is waiting for me. Cab fare is £7GBP from Travelodge to T3. The driver didn't give me any help with my bag. I should have given him a smaller tip.

Found AA check-in at zone C and was second in the biz class line. Would've been maybe #14 if I had been in the regular steerage queue. Thank you Plat status!

It took a few minutes for the check-in agents to arrive, boot up their terminals and so on, but I was through quickly enough. No chance of an upgd though as the flight wasn't even half full. I was only joking when I asked. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif I figure in the end I could have slept another half hour at least. Next time I'll know better and might even chance the Hoppa in the morning, but the taxi was the safer way to go.

I go upstairs and get to the departures security check and find myself second in line to the same person who was ahead of me in the check-in earlier. No one shows up until a half hour later http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif but when the door finally opens to the security check area, I'm through right away. (While we were waiting there had been a fire alarm ringing for approximately 25 minutes. It took that long before the sirens of a firetruck were heard and the alarm was silenced.)

No shops are open at this ridiculously early hour, so I make the trek directly to Gate 18. (I was going to try to locate the Admiral's Club, but didn't find it. Not that it was open so early anyways.)

After a brief wait pax are allowed through (flight coupons lifted) into a little holding area. Boarding comes soon after with the gate agent calling first class, business class, and AAdv Gold, Plat, and EXP in that order but without pausing in between because the loading is so light.

I make my way to 31J and settle in. Just aft of the wings, good view. The 767-300 seems rather spacious. I can see why people like the nice uncrowded 2-3-2 cabin. If it had the more modern amenities of the 777, I think the 767 would be better than her larger and younger sister hands down. (At least if you're stuck in coach like me.) Then again, perhaps it's the difference between a jam packed 777 (my outbound flight) and a lightly loaded 767 (this flight).

Pushback is right on time and we are quickly airborne. There doesn't seem to be a big lineup for takeoff at this time of day. Most carriers' planes are actually arriving in the early morning and we are one of the few taking off.

Hot towels are passed out and followed quickly by breakfast service. Choices are omelette with cheese or pancakes with apples. I take the eggs. It's filled with cheese. Ham (a bit charred on the edges) and potatoe chunks on the side. Also included with the meal are: croissant, butter, strawberry jam; cheese and crackers; fruit salad (kiwi, grapefruit, strawberries); OJ. We are also given a choice of drink. The 4FAs serve the coach cabin efficiently.

They collect trays and offer a second round of drinks. Two of the FAs shut windowshades on unoccupied rows, but they kindly do not insist that everyone do so. I shut mine halfway in consideration of others but I still would like a little bit of light to help me timezone shift.

I try to watch a DVD on my laptop, but the battery drains sooner than expected and I don't have a power adaptor (don't think my seat has power either). Sleep a while, but people already had taken all the centre seats. Still, having two seats is pretty good. The Sony NC-10s are helpful too, but my ears are not quite used to them yet.

I awake to find a Tolberone bar on my tray and after walking about to stretch my legs I visit the galley to get some water and steal some M&Ms. A little later FAs are around again offering drinks and peanuts.

With an hour to go in the flight a snack of a deli plate (roast beef or turkey) is offered. I chose turkey naturally. It comes with turkey, cranberry sauce, potatoes, asparagus, lettuce, roll, butter, and some chocolates.

We land early and deplaning proceeds rapidly. I'm given no hassles of any kind at customs/immigration, but am surprised again at the lack of more questions related to foot and mouth disease. Maybe I don't fit the profile?

My bag comes very quickly, but I am disappointed that while F/J class pax have 'Premium' priority tags, elites don't get priority bag handling. I drop off my bag at the AA connecting bag area, head upstairs to the transfer train and am whisked over to T3.

I head directly to the Admiral's Club and am admitted upon presentation of my Plat card and BP for the LHR-ORD flight.

Use one of the HP biz centre PCs to surf FT for a while then head to a seat by the window overlooking the apron. From here I can see my gate and the MD-80 there being serviced. It's raining in Chicago today.

FewMiles
Mar 19, 01, 10:56 am
15Mar AA 829 ORD 11:35 YYC 14:20 MD-80 upgraded to J seat 6F http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I leave the AC and make my way to the gate. Perfect timing, for just as I arrive the gate agent announces pre-boarding.

Stowing my bag in the overhead compartment, I settle in to my seat and relax. The FA takes my jacket.

I notice that all the bins are shut preventing coach pax from using the front cabin bins. Pre-flight drinks are served (in plastic cups - different than from a few months ago) to the 6 pax up front. A 7th arrives a bit later. I'm in the aftmost row of biz class guaranteeing me first choice of meals.

At one point the FA has to chase down a coach pax who audaciously grabbed the pillows and blankets from a pair of the biz class seats. Later a guy asks this FA if there is 'open seating' on the flight. Both incidents produce a slight look of annoyance on the FA's face, but she thankfully is careful guarding the front cabin. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Stragglers keep coming until more than 10 minutes as we wait for cnx pax and bags. We push back at 11:50, 15 minutes late.

Biz cabin FA (not the same one who was guarding the front cabin earlier) takes drink and meal choices as we taxi. Choices for this cold lunch are a shrimp plate or a chicken salad sandwich. I went with the shrimp.

We taxi a bit. Captain announces that we are #5 in the takeoff queue. The runway corrently being used for landings intersects with the takeoff runway (04L). Takeoff roll begins 12:11.

The MD-80 is quiet(er) up front, but these Sony NC-10's are awesome!

Service starts with beverage and warmed salted mixed nuts. Hot towel service follows and the FA offers to refill my glass.

Meal was shrimp plate with shrimp on a bed of salad with a nice sauce. Choice of sourdough or multi-grain roll, and to wash it down, a fruit plate with grapes, grapefruit, cantelope, and strawberries. Wine was offered, but as I don't drink, I took a glass of water instead. A nice light lunch.

I think I'm being spoiled flying front cabin. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif And don't forget dessert: a warm chocolate brownie topped with vanilla ice cream and a bit of chocolate sauce. Nice.

Slept for most of the rest of the flight and awoke as we began our descent into abolutely gorgeous clear Alberta skies. An awesome left hand circle and we touch down in Calgary at 2:17, 3 minutes early in the end.

I gave the FA (Walter) an SOS for great service on this flight. In return he tried to get me to take the whole pile of mint candies he was handing out before landing. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

It takes a few minutes to taxi back to the terminal and I zip my way to Canada immigration and customs. Along the corridor have been placed some mats and my shoes make a squish, squish sound. Ewww. (The mats are soaked with disinfectant in accordance with precautions taken against the current outbreak of foot and mouth disease in European livestock.)

Unfortunately our flight arrived after a Canada 3000 flight from Las Vegas and an AA flight from DFW, so there was a logjam at immigration. I had hoped to make it in time to make the 15:00 flight to YEG (one hour earlier).

No big deal. I take a look around YYC. It's looking pretty nice with a new (?) landside seating area with big windows overlooking the apron and they also have this "Spaceport" thing with several VR flight simulators and science displays aimed at getting kids interested in aerospace.

15Mar AC 8460 YYC 16:10 YEG 17:00 Dash 8-300 turboprop seat 3A

Everything is more or less on time and the flight is short and overall unremarkable, but the turboprop aircraft is noisy, noisy, noisy. Even noise cancelling headphones are no use against the 'buzz' that runs through the whole plane. Snack (cookies) and drinks (juice or coffee) are served. Next time I will seriously consider WestJet -- at least they are flying jets.

We land at YEG on time and pull into the commuter gate (#7 in the old terminal). I don't know whose great idea it was to leave the commuter gate at the far end of the old terminal while moving the rest of AC's operations to the new terminal. It's quite the hike we must make from the commuter gate to baggage claim #6 (the longest possible). To top it off, we must wait some 20 minutes before the bags finally appear. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

With my backpack adorned with an FT tag and pin, I was hoping to run into a fellow FTer on my travels, but no luck so far...

end of long-winded trip report

FewMiles..

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Carfield
Mar 19, 01, 5:41 pm
Thanks you for a nice report!

AA coach even sounds good... They seem to serve many snacks in between. The F/As work very hard. I am glad that Amsterdam airport has timetables around. AA is really bad with the printed timetables. They hide them all the times. Only at Boston, I occasionally can find some SN/SR timetables...

AA's domestic business class sounds nice but the dinner offerings seem to be nicer on your outbound flight.

BA's all day deli seems to be a nice concept for such a short flight. It is much better than the pack of pretzels that I get for my shuttle flight.

Thanks,
carfield http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Carfield (edited 03-19-2001).]

bagold
Mar 21, 01, 9:45 pm
thanks for the nice report! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

onedog
Mar 22, 01, 11:59 am
Originally posted by FewMiles:
[b]Found AA check-in at zone C and was second in the biz class line. Would've been maybe #14 if I had been in the regular steerage queue. Thank you Plat status!


Don't PLT get to use the first class check-in line? Last year, before I made EXP, I was waiting in the biz class line at LHR, before I noticed the person in front of me was holding his GLD card in his hand. At that point it dawned on me, "hey, I should have used the first class check-in line"

onedog
Mar 22, 01, 12:04 pm
Originally posted by FewMiles:
end of long-winded trip report


No such thing as a long-winded trip report. I like to think of them as someone just sharing a trip report where they have provided lots of details.

Great trip report.

FewMiles
Mar 23, 01, 12:45 am
Originally posted by onedog:
Don't PLT get to use the first class check-in line? Last year, before I made EXP, I was waiting in the biz class line at LHR, before I noticed the person in front of me was holding his GLD card in his hand. At that point it dawned on me, "hey, I should have used the first class check-in line"


Hey onedog, you're right and I thought the same thing, but the biz class check in also listed AAdv Gold and Plat on the electronic signs. Either way it didn't really matter because this was the first flight of the day. I would have been first in the first class line, but as no agent showed up there till later, I would have been no better off.

Cheers,
FewMiles..

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ka9taw
Mar 24, 01, 5:10 pm
OneDog and FewMiles:

For international flights, GLD and PLT use Biz class checkin. Only ExPlat can use first class checkin. I learned this when I went ORD-CDG last November...on the mileage run that was making me ExPlat yet I was politely directed to the business class check-in.

Fewmiles: Great report!!!

I find the security-at-every-gate setup at AMS a little irritating. Yes, it puts everyone in a secure hold to board the flight, but LHR does that as well without having individual security screening at every gate. Last time I flew out of there, it took 30-40 minutes for a KLM flight to ORD to clear that security screen. I guess I would have been happier if there was a separate screening for J and F passengers.

The service in AA Y to ORD sounds better than I last remember it...good to know. Especially liked the bit about finding a candy bar on your tray...nice touch.



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