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QuietLion
Oct 23, 99, 9:35 am
I get a company ticket

Hunnybear is on a month-long assignment in Toronto. Her company lets her fly home every weekend or, at her discretion, import someone to Toronto for the weekend. She flew home twice. Now it was my turn to go to Toronto. Since I was a little bit tired of taking the 757 to ORD and the 727 to YYZ, I decided to try something different.

I booked the much-hated Shuttle by United down to SFO, left myself a generous 2.5-hour connection (I figured I could be on line just as easily in the RCC as at home, so no big deal), and booked the A320 to YYZ. I figured we would get the good trans-con service on the long flight, and this was actually cheaper than the other routing for some reason.

Pluto was waiting outside my building with the motor running when I wheeled out my bags. He whisked me to the airport in no time and I arrived a good hour before the flight. No one was ahead of me in the FC/1K line, but there were four bags sitting right at the front of the line blocking the way. As I wondered whose they were and how their owner would answer the question, “Have your bags been left unattended at any time since you packed them?” a lady snuck in front of me and grabbed the next available agent. No big deal, though, because a minute later Maggie opened up and checked me right in. She told me that the upgrade to SFO was complimentary, but I’d need 2500 miles for the SFO-YYZ leg. I waved my hand in front of her face and said, “I can go right on. I don’t need any certificates.” But she said Jedi mind tricks didn’t work on her, only certs. So I reluctantly parted with one North American Confirmable Upgrade certificate.

I took the shuttle to the Red Carpet Club and waved my card as I walked past the desk. No one seemed to look up at me, which was unusual. I grabbed a couple newspapers and made a couple phone calls until it was time to board. I looked for the new timetables, but they hadn’t come in yet.

I had seat 1C on the Shuttle. Sitting next to me was the woman who snuck in front of me in line! She slept the whole flight and looked a little stressed out. There isn’t really any good place to sit on the Shuttle by United. The front row doesn’t have enough leg room, the back row has no bulkhead between it and the kicking children in the first row of Coach, and those two rows are all there are. All things considered, I like 1B or 1C if I have to fly this evil plane. Service was unsatisfactory as usual. There was no pre-flight drink service. After 20 minutes of no one offering to hang up our jackets, the man in 2B asked one of the stewardesses, who complied. Then we sat on the ground for an hour and 15 minutes waiting for the fog to lift, ironically, in Seattle. I figured we’d be delayed in SFO, but the problems were in my own backyard today. We had been having really thick fog each morning for the last week. There was no service of any kind during the wait, although the pilot did give 10-minute updates, which all appreciated.

Once in the air, the flight was under two hours. They served us drinks in plastic cups. Food service was a hermetically sealed chocolate-chip cookie, which I declined but she gave me anyway. When she wasn’t looking I slipped it back into the box, still sealed. United should be ashamed to call this First Class. Imagine the infrequent United traveler making an international connection on this flight. This is their first or last impression of UA service. Yuck.

We landed in the Shuttle area with an hour left to make my connection. I needed almost all of it, because the Toronto flight, to my surprise, was in the international terminal! I liked that prospect very much because it meant there was a possibility of my going to the super-deluxe International First Class Lounge. I remembered getting comped into that lounge by a very nice concierge on my first trip to Bangkok (where I met Hunnybear) two years before.

I had to exit and re-enter security to get to the international terminal. Security was very thorough---they sniffed my cell phone for explosives! I told the guy, hey, I'm only going to Toronto, and he apologized but still sniffed it. Fortunately I passed.

I followed the signs to the lounges, which led me downstairs to the Red Carpet Club. I showed my ticket and said, “does this get me into the First Class Lounge?” I expected one of two answers: “Yes sir” or “I’m sorry, sir, Canada doesn’t count as international.” To my astonishment she told me that upgraded fares do not qualify for lounge access! I didn’t think that was right, and I looked around for a timetable because I thought the policy was printed in there (I think only Arrivals by United service is denied to upgraded fares, not lounge access). Like Seattle, there were no timetables, old or new. They must be right between printings.

So I said what the heck and walked back up the stairs to see if they would let me in anyway. The International First Class Lounge turned out to be right across from my gate. I walked in through the double glass doors, smiled, and presented my ticket to the agent. She smiled and said, “Make yourself comfortable, Mr. Lion.” Yes!

I quickly sauntered over to where I remembered the food was. As I recalled, they had a wide variety of yummy hors d’ouvres and Moët chilling in a silver bucket. I poured myself a nice glass of champagne and took a couple skewers of teriyaki chicken and a stuffed portabella. Superb. I called Hunnybear to report the situation.

After only 10 minutes, reluctantly, I boarded the plane. I needn’t have been reluctant. Despite this being an A320, the flight was very nice. It felt like an international flight! Tracy, the purser, did everything she was supposed to with a confident and easy attitude—my favorite. I gave her a Service Award. Preflight drinks, menus, nuts, sundaes, and cookies—we got the works on this flight. Negatives were the less-than-comfortable seats on the A320, not quite enough legroom in the bulkhead (especially seats 1C and D, which don’t have a little cutout for the feet), and horrible small video screens with terrible glare from any light on or windowshade open. The highlight of the flight was the spicy shrimp appetizer. Wow! This was just perfect. I would have been happy to eat this in any restaurant in the world. I ordered the veal, and as usual it was a bit overdone. Tracy made my trademark champagne gin rickey for me, and I had a taste of the Louis Martini cabernet with the veal. It was quite good.

The movie was “Lake Placid,” a silly story about a big crocodile in a lake in Maine saved only by the presence of Bridget Fonda. Then they showed the westbound short subject because the eastbound one was broken, so I didn’t get to see “Spin City.” This happens really frequently, but I think I’m the only one who notices or cares. Soon it will all be digital and we won’t have to worry about tapes breaking.

The flight time was a quick 4:15, so we got in a few minutes early. There was a long line at customs but it moved fairly quickly. I’m always tempted, when I get one of those good-natured Canadian customs inspectors, to slap down my passport and say, “I am wanting to defect!” But I never do. Baggage claim took a bit longer than usual, and as always I stood by the Smarte Carte machine telling everyone it was the best bargain in the world: not only was it only one dollar Canadian to rent a cart, but you get your dollar back! No one seemed to be laundering carts for frequent-flyer miles though.

Hunnybear was waiting for me at the exit from the secured area and we proceeded to the Westin Prince Hotel. We had stayed here before when I was a Gold preferred guest and they upgraded us to a very nice corner room on the 14th floor. Well, we got exactly the same room this time, but with my first-ever amenity box. Thanks, Starwood. I was a bit disappointed that we didn’t get a suite, but the room is very nice and livable. This is a relatively inexpensive Westin at CAD$125 a night. No outrageous phone surcharge, just 75¢/call (even for 800 numbers).

I’m traveling like a madman for the next two weeks, so “watch this space” for more trip reports!


richard
Oct 23, 99, 10:14 am
What a great trip report, QLion!

Not to gloat, but I have enjoyed my AS trips SEA-SFO, and now you can earn AA status miles on AS flights.

You make a good point: UA should change the name of the Shuttle, it messes with their brand in a bad way.

QuietLion
Oct 23, 99, 3:45 pm
richard, I always fly AS to the Bay Area when I can. Since this was a connection, though, I didn't risk it. There's no comparison. UA loses 20K miles worth of my business a year because of Shuttle.


RichG
Oct 23, 99, 8:31 pm
As always, QL, lots of information and a few chuckles... I will address only the latter.

1. Maggie does respond to Jedi mind tricks... but you have to say "these are not the droids we're looking for."

2. "I am wanting to defect" only works in Bloomingdales... but that's a different movie altogether. http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

QuietLion
Oct 24, 99, 8:20 am
Last night Hunnybear took me to Toronto’s elegant North 44 restaurant. It’s located on fashionable Yonge St., reputed to be the longest straight street in the world at 1800 km or so. I got news for them: it isn’t straight. As we drove down it, Yonge St. curved around buildings and through underpasses several times. Maybe it’s only the rest of it that’s straight.

We pulled up to the restaurant behind a taxi and waited for the valet to open our doors. Instead, he stood right by the car looking at us expectantly. Finally he motioned to us to pull up another 5 feet, which we did. Apparently he wanted us to be next to a gap between cars so we could easily walk out of the car and onto the sidewalk. They asked us to pay $10 in advance for the parking (Canadian dollars, or roughly $1.58 US) so we did.

The interior of North 44 is elegant and easy on the eyes. Two-story vaulted ceilings cover light walls, mottled projected light, and smoked mirrors. The upholstered chairs look exceptionally comfortable, which we confirmed later when we sat down. First we went up to the bar. It’s on a mezzanine level accessible by a staircase near the front door. An attractive blonde bartender made Hunnybear a cosmopolitan and me a Napoleon martini. The well-attended bar had generous bowls of smoked almonds interspersed with fruit bowls piled high. I didn’t see anyone attempt to eat any of the peaches or apples, but I don’t see why they couldn’t have had they been so inclined. I had a couple handfuls of nuts.

We were seated before the promised time, in fact before we’d even had a sip of our drinks. The hostess brought a tray and attempted to carry them down to the dining area, but I grabbed mine. My policy is never to part with a drink once served. We sat at a table for two near the front, but it was far enough from the door that there was no traffic or draft. Diners were attractive but not, for the most part, dressed to the nines. It could have been Seattle.

We started with a seared ahi tuna crusted with sesame seeds. They split the order for us without being asked, which was OK because it came in two nice presentations, but we were surprised to see a $3 charge for the split on the bill. The tuna itself was superb, cooked perfectly and of the finest quality. We each got two good-sized pieces.

For entrees, we each had a rack. I’ve always been a rack man, so I had the rack of lamb which was excellent. They took six chops, split it in half, cut the bones off the outer ones, and served it up as two thick chops encrusted with hazelnuts and finished with a pinot-noir demiglaze. It was great, but the real star of the evening was Hunnybear’s rack of venison. It was far and away the best venison I’d ever had, just grilled medium rare and melting in our mouths. I had a glass of a nice Chilean cabernet to accompany, the Santa Carolina.

For dessert we split a “bananas three ways,” a nice light treat consisting of banana angel-food cake, banana ice cream, and bananas sautéed in rum. We hoovered it so fast that it was gone by the time our waiter returned with the coffee.

The bill came to CAD$170 after 15% tax and tip, quite high for Toronto but expected at the trendiest place in town. I certainly recommend this place and the nearby Centro as great expense-account or special-occasion restaurants.


[This message has been edited by QuietLion (edited 10-24-1999).]

Rudi
Oct 24, 99, 8:38 am
10 can$ = US$ 1.58? I'll right away sell my house and go to Canada http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Catman
Oct 24, 99, 5:26 pm
NO NO NO RUDI! YOu cannot sell your home until AFTER I come to Switzerland. I"M so looking forward to getting there.

QUiet Lion: I will remember this restaurant for the North of the Border Blast 2 in 2000 and the tenth season (I hope) of Red Green!

QuietLion
Oct 24, 99, 6:11 pm
My feline friend: this restaurant would be GREAT for a private FlyerTalk party. They have two very nice private dining rooms.

megamiles
Oct 25, 99, 4:10 am
US$1 = CAD$1.45
(That's what major Canadian banks are buying US dollars at today - 11/26/99)

Quoting QuietLion,

not only was it only one dollar Canadian to rent a cart, but you get your dollar back! No one seemed to be laundering carts for frequent-flyer miles though

Issues,

Since this is FlyerTalk, I can admit that I actually thought of that a couple of years ago but worked out that it doesn't work. Two BIG problems:

Problem 1. I presume you swiped your credit card for the SmartCard. Unfortunately (and illegally), your credit card account will be dinged for US$1, while you only receive a Canadian loonie (CAD$1) when you return your cart. Net loss: $0.45 / cart. This is illegal because:
(a) No signs are posted to this effect - the machine just says $1 (and since you are Canada, anyone would reasonably assume Canadian dollars)
(b) You can't offer your goods for retail sale in Canada in US dollars (unless you also offer a Canadian dollar price)

Problem 2. Last year I was waiting to depart on a very-delayed Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt. I was really bored, and needed some exercise, so I decided to return carts that people left strewn about and pocket the cash - in about 10 minutes I returned about 10 carts, not a bad ROI for me - however I then got yelled at by airport staff. Turns that much of the airport custodial staff consider the cart returns to be their unofficial tip and hence have a problem with "outsiders" on their "turf". Since they probably needed the money much more than I did, I didn't bothering arguing the issue.

QuietLion
Oct 25, 99, 10:44 am
megamiles: I get the correct amount charged on my credit card, $.68 or so, when I swipe. Maybe it was a one-time mistake?

Haven't actually tried the wholesale cart-return scheme, but if a bunch of us get together we can probably handle some Skycaps in a fair fight. http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

QuietLion
Oct 25, 99, 5:25 pm
Riding in the nose

Dinner last night was at the secret place in Toronto whose name I’m not allowed to reveal. Even on Sunday night there was quite a crowd. We waited only about 15 minutes while I sipped a Pluto special Bombay Sapphire martini, very dry, up with a twist. As the bartender whipped out the vermouth I waved my hand in front of his face. “You don’t need to put in any vermouth,” I said. “It’s fine without it.” This time the Jedi mind trick worked and he set my perfect martini in front of me.

I ordered a cup of the fabulous hot and sour soup as Hunnybear and I munched on the fried noodles, dipping them in hoi sin sauce. I ordered the Filet Mignon for the Queen (10 oz.) medium rare, while Hunnybear had chicken with cashews and green peppers as she was fighting a cold and didn’t feel like steak. It’s almost sacrilege to go to the <secret place whose name I’m not allowed to reveal> and order Chinese food (even though it’s a Chinese restaurant) but no one seemed perturbed by her order.

Surprisingly, my filet arrived butterflied! I asked the waiter for an unbutterflied one and he said unless you specify “no butterfly” it’s up to the discretion of the cook as to whether he cuts it in half or not. I said I’d been there 20 times and that had never happened before, and he said no problem and had a regular cut in front of me in less than a minute. “I took someone else’s,” he explained.

The filet was fabulous as always, and I delighted in the complimentary fried onions, potatoes, and sliced vegetables as an accompaniment. Another winning dinner at the secret place. http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Checkout of the Westin Prince was a breeze even though I had to remember to switch the bill to my Mileage Plus MasterCard to avoid AmEx’s new extortionary 2% commission on foreign purchases. Hunnybear drove me to Terminal 2 and dropped me at the Étas Unis door. I was first in line at the first-class checkin and was handled by a friendly agent named Linda, once again surrendering the very valuable 1K North American Confirmable Upgrade Certificate. I had booked the connection in Chicago rather than the nonstop to SFO because I wanted to fly in the 747 ORD-SFO. I figured the service would be better.

I plugged in at my favorite airport lounge, the YYZ Maple Leaf, had a decaf but passed up the high-carb spread they had laid out, and proceeded to gate 94 20 minutes before flight time. I went right on the plane. A guy was sitting in my seat 1B, but he realized his mistake and switched to 1C when I arrived. I think he was hoping I would not care and take 1C, on the side without the foot cutout. I guess he didn’t realize who he was dealing with.

The short flight was uneventful and service was good. Most of the time there is no preflight drink service on those little planes, so I like it when I can get a cup of coffee when I board. I said hello to the guy next to me, but he ignored me and so we didn’t talk for the rest of the flight. I worked on my laptop and we were in Chicago before I could say <secret place whose name I’m not allowed to reveal>.

I had about 20 minutes to hang out in the C terminal RCC, where laptop space is never a problem but food service is remarkably poor. This time they had exactly two bagels put out and that was it. Amazing that UA gets away with this in their flagship airport. I plugged in, read FlyerTalk, and headed to gate C18 to board the big bird.

Well, what can I say. I join auh2o as a recipient of the fabled double-upgrade. The only thing better than walking down the jetway and turning left is walking down the special FC/BC-only jetway and turning left! I had seat 1B, right up in the nose of this beautiful 747-400OP, fitted for international travel. The food and drink service was essentially the same as FC in any ORD-SFO flight, but oh those seats! Personal videos with individual videotape players! Seats that recline a mile back! Back massage! Electronic seat and footrest controls! Laptop Power! What a fabulous flight. I ordered [I]Shakespeare in Love[I] and watched one of my favorite movies as I went through my email and enjoyed the duck breast appetizer and crab cake entrée. The china in FC was made by Wessco, by the way.

On board, I received amazing service from Jeff Cunningham and his 16-person crew. He gave one of the best safety presentations I’ve ever heard, including the famed “If you haven’t been in a car since 1964” joke to tee up the seat belt demo. He knelt down to take my meal order like it was a Japanese restaurant. United should be proud of this plane and this service. I’ll remember this for a long time (especially when I take the A320 LAX-MIA next week http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif)

Landing at SFO was like a leaf floating into a still pond without a ripple. I popped into the 1K room to snag a new timetable (new seating chart for 777 with First Suites and announcement of waitlisting first-class award tickets were what jumped out at me as new since the last time I looked). Baggage claim didn't take too terribly long, but the SuperShuttle line was horrendous. Fortunately, I was the only one going south to Silicon Valley, so they took me all the way from the back of the line right away.

All in all this was a FIVE-STAR trip! I'm at a seminar in SF for the next week, but then I'll be flying to the Bahamas. http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

The end.

auh2o
Oct 25, 99, 6:21 pm
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As usual, great report. Bahamas? What? Hawaii and PIP doesn't make the cut? http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

RichG
Oct 26, 99, 2:57 am
Before the end of the year I'm going to go to Toronto on a mileage run just to find this secret place.... I think I have a tricorder in the closet somewhere...

Hunnybear
Oct 26, 99, 1:08 pm
RichG, as a native Torontula I can give you some hints as to where it is...

Thanks for the great report, my fave Lion!

Matt Wald
Oct 27, 99, 11:32 am
QuietLion and Honeybear, sitting in <secret place whose name I’m not allowed to reveal>, K-I-S-S-I-N-G...

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QuietLion
Oct 27, 99, 2:52 pm
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auh2o: It's a wedding in Montreal that's conflicting with the PiP. The Bahamas could never hold a candle...

Hunnybear
Oct 28, 99, 5:00 pm
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Quietlion: Bahamas could only hold a candle if you remember a certain first date between a Lion and a Bear....

QuietLion
Oct 28, 99, 8:09 pm
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Matt Wald
Oct 29, 99, 9:40 am
Alright, kids. Get a room!

Hunnybear
Oct 29, 99, 11:24 am
Awlright, Matt.

QLion: http://talk.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif



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