Starwood Preferred Guest - Any way to move HH points to SPG?

View Full Version : Any way to move HH points to SPG?

goingnow

Dec 7, 02, 2:33 pm

Is there any sensible way to transfer HH points over? I have done a search and cannot find this exact answer.

Eugene

Dec 7, 02, 3:26 pm

Originally posted by goingnow:
Is there any sensible way to transfer HH points over?

No.

Bourne

Dec 7, 02, 4:47 pm

The reverse is possible http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Leona Helmsley

Dec 7, 02, 4:51 pm

You can't move anything to SPG.

ILTE_Miles

Dec 8, 02, 9:42 pm

Originally posted by goingnow:
Is there any sensible way to transfer HH points over? I have done a search and cannot find this exact answer.

Sensible?--Most would (understandably) say no...but there does appear to be a way to move the points over:

HH --> AA --> Diners Club Club Rewards points --> Starwood

e.g.
10k HH --> 2k AA --> 2k DC CR --> 750 Starpoints

NOTE: UA miles could be used for the DC CR transfer, but the conversion ratio of HH points to UA miles is 10:1.5 for the 10k threshold, versus 10:2 if converting to AA.

Lastly, FWIW, the greatest HH points -to- miles conversion ratio possible appears to be the HH --> AA @ the 50k threshold (--> 12k AA miles). To compare relative value, let's examine what happens to 100k HH points (i.e. enough for an ALON or GLON award [in theory]):

100k HH --> 24k AA --> 24k DC CR --> 7200 Starpoints

There is at least 1 way in which 7200 Starpoints have the potential to be of comparable or greater value than that of 100k HH points -- however, regardless, one could justifiably argue that it is much easier to charge one's way to 7200 Starpoints than it is to garner 100k HH points (by any means [w/ the exception of multiple HH conquest promos turning already planned stays into a easy 100k]).

Edited to add the following addendum:

HH --> AA exchange rate changes on Jan 1, 2003 -- to 10k:1.5k

[This message has been edited by ILTE_Miles (edited 12-08-2002).]

ILTE_Miles

Dec 8, 02, 9:47 pm

.

[This message has been edited by ILTE_Miles (edited 12-08-2002).]

welookgood.com

Dec 8, 02, 10:19 pm

claim the 105k or 110k award from hilton for $400 in cash and use it to buy starwood pts from inside flyer or toward ya vacation

Eugene

Dec 10, 02, 9:59 am

Originally posted by ILTE_Miles:
10k HH --> 2k AA --> 2k DC CR --> 750 Starpoints

A small correction: it requires not 2K, but 2,500 DC points to exchange for 750 SPG points.

ILTE_Miles

Dec 11, 02, 11:13 pm

Originally posted by Eugene:
A small correction: it requires not 2K, but 2,500 DC points to exchange for 750 SPG points.

Correct...my bad...a typo that I summarily propagated. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Thanks for posting the correction.

kluau88

Dec 12, 02, 2:51 am

Originally posted by ILTE_Miles:
Correct...my bad...a typo that I summarily propagated. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Thanks for posting the correction.

ILTE_Miles, I'm not surprised you made this mistake since you never transfer out of SPG http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

ffhound

Dec 12, 02, 4:55 am

Can someone please post a link to the 105k/110k for cash deal at Hilton?

Thanks Peter

[This message has been edited by ffhound (edited 12-12-2002).]

Eugene

Dec 12, 02, 10:09 am

Originally posted by ffhound:
Can someone please post a link to the 105k/110k for cash deal at Hilton?

Gaming Chip Rewards (http://www.hilton.com/en/hhonors/rewards/us_canada.jhtml#gaming) (available only to members residing in the U.S. and Canada).

ILTE_Miles

Dec 13, 02, 12:17 am

Originally posted by kluau88:
ILTE_Miles, I'm not surprised you made this mistake since you never transfer out of SPG http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Ah, yes, kluau88, the outbound direction would seem to be a non-biological reality w/ the potential to invoke a severe allergic reaction (does anyone else need an EpiPen handy when performing "what if" calculations that involve a Starwood account debit?)...the inbound direction, OTOH, results in an adrenaline *rush* (a much more natural & pleasing introduction of epinephrine)...perhaps the mere thought of inbound Starpoints, which danced through my mind when performing a sample "what if" calculation re: HH conversion to SPG, sparked an adrenaline avalanche that made my finger "slip" while typing...?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

dhacker

Dec 13, 02, 7:22 am

Originally posted by ILTE_Miles:
There is at least 1 way in which 7200 Starpoints have the potential to be of comparable or greater value than that of 100k HH points...

Sounds like something worth further discussion. Please tell us more!

alexwuk

Dec 13, 02, 8:01 am

Originally posted by ILTE_Miles:

100k HH --> 24k AA --> 24k DC CR --> 7200 Starpoints


If someone is seriously considering this; can they please drop me an email?

Regards,
Alex

MIKESILV

Dec 13, 02, 8:28 am

Originally posted by alexwuk:
If someone is seriously considering this; can they please drop me an email?

Regards,
Alex



Why the hell would anybody want to do that?
7k SPG points = 1 night in a cat 3 hotel.
100k Hilton points gives you 2 1/2 nights in the Conrad Dublin, Conrad Mt Juliet or Conrad Brussels ( all of the examples given far better any cat 3 SPG property I have been in)
Mike

alexwuk

Dec 13, 02, 8:31 am

ILTE_Miles

Dec 15, 02, 11:33 pm

Originally posted by dhacker:
Sounds like something worth further discussion. Please tell us more!

Hi dhacker,

One of the scenarios I was thinking of was re: 50% off awards (specifically if redeemed @ various non-U.S. properties), each of which could be used for 5 nights each.

Again, I am not advocating that one actually proceed w/ such a redemption re: HH conversion. However, if your luck w/ HH points redemption attempts were anything like mine--w/ capacity controls having rendered a veto to said attempts--then the HH points could potentially be "worthless" unless converted to something else--or given to someone else (in the form of awards in their name).

It is far easier to obtain 7000+ Starpoints (via credit card, in particular) than it is to obtain 100,000 HH points (again, as stated earlier, unless one is able to take advantage of a conquest promo or two, etc.).

[This message has been edited by ILTE_Miles (edited 12-15-2002).]