American Express Membership Rewards - Amex does a 'bait and switch' on me




LondonElite
Nov 14, 03, 6:26 am
Some of you may remember that about a year ago I posted and unusually generous offer Amex was running, published in its Departures magazine.

Here is the old link to that thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ftpasttalk_forum/Forum69/HTML/001402.html

The offer was for unlimited champagne at the Oyster Bar in the Carlton Tower hotel. The offer, which is still active on the website, was meant to run until 31 December 2003.

http://www.departures.com/britishexcellence/25.html

I called the Oyster Bar yesterday to find out whether they knew anything about this. Unsurprisingly they did not. I get put through to increasingly more senior people who either tell me that the promotion is over or that it never existed. Telling them that it was a published offer from Amex made no difference. Finally the restaurant manager agreed to speak to the head of marketing who would ring me back with a decision. Predictably he did not.

So I call Amex PCS in the UK (ie Brighton). They have no idea about this offer so I tell them about Departures magazine which they insist has nothin to do with American Express! I push this point a little and a senior person in the 'Lifestyles' group insists that Amex has never had any magazine called Departures anywhere in the world and that this must be some sort of co-branding exercise. I try to get her to go to the website but I am wasting my breath.

To get back to the issue at hand, I tell her I'm holding the voucher, which clearly states that it is valid until 31 Dec 2003, when she tells me that they ran the promotion last year and that my voucher has some sort of printing error. She's not getting the point. She insists that the promotion ended in 2002. I then ask her why the blackout period clearly states 1 Dec 2002 to 6 Jan 2003. She is confused.

She then tells me that Amex reserves the right to change the T&Cs, and that's what they've done in this case. This is seriously aggravating...a bait and switch I ask her? She tells me all companies can change their rules at any time.

...but Departures is most certainly not an Amex magazine!


ahrz
Nov 14, 03, 6:59 am
LondonElite, this is another exclusive benefit of Amex UK !!

"Every time you call your Customer Service, you will enjoy a free travel through the 5th dimension."

jja34-1
Nov 14, 03, 11:46 am
This seems to me to be pretty representative of Amex UK. This is also pretty much the reason I held an Amex Plat UK card for only three weeks.

I was amazed at the lack of customer service and general breakdown in communication that I experienced with Amex UK. Despite a long relationship with Plat in the US and a fairly high spend, I was basically treated like an ugly stepchild by Amex Plat UK and not a single person I spoke with ever bothered to try and find a solution to a problem that Amex UK had created to begin with!

I have had a totally different experience with my UK-issued Citibank AA card (it may not be as prestigious and have as many bells and whistles as Amex Plat but the customer service is 100x better).


mia
Nov 15, 03, 7:02 pm
<< printing error >>

Evidently true. There are 30 offers on the website. _All_ expired March 31, 2003 or earlier. Why do you believe this one, and only this one, was intended to run nine months longer than the others?

The coupon has a blackout "during the holiday season from December 1, 2002 through January 6, 2003". If they really had meant the offer to run past 31 March don't you think they would also have blacked out December 2003?

I think it's a typographical error, nothing more.

dennis

LondonElite
Nov 17, 03, 3:34 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mia:
&lt;&lt; printing error &gt;&gt;

Evidently true. There are 30 offers on the website. _All_ expired March 31, 2003 or earlier. Why do you believe this one, and only this one, was intended to run nine months longer than the others?

The coupon has a blackout "during the holiday season from December 1, 2002 through January 6, 2003". If they really had meant the offer to run past 31 March don't you think they would also have blacked out December 2003?

I think it's a typographical error, nothing more.

dennis</font>

I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Following that logic, you could easily argue that the last offer to expire is always a printing error.

Besides, they have had over a year to correct it.

It's either bait & switch or incompetence.

Steve M
Nov 17, 03, 9:13 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by LondonElite:
It's either bait & switch or incompetence.</font>

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

- Hanlon's Razor

LondonElite
Nov 19, 03, 6:07 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Steve M:
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

- Hanlon's Razor</font>

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RichardMannion
Nov 19, 03, 10:48 am
Departures is a US based magazine for Platinum &Centurion Cardholders out there. Thats why we don't get the magaine, and get the Uk CEnturion Magazine instead.

That is why when you phoned nobody would have known about the offer.

If someone saw a US offer for one of our products and phoned me in the UK, THeres a very good cahnce I wouldn't know what offer you were talking about wither.

Thanks,
Richard



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