India-based Airlines - 9W seems desperate to get new frequent fliers

They're sending out a lot of marketing mail (as far as I can see, unsolicited) titled "Rs.500 Off on tickets + 2000 Bonus JPMiles. Enrol now with JetPrivilege!"

Starts off with "This is a marketing initiative. If you are an existing JetPrivilege member, please write to jpnewsletter@jetairways.com"

So far I've received it on an address I use to read network operations mailing lists, and another that I use to read linux mailing lists.

Yes, they seem quite desperate. Also I find it interesting that even though their flights are no longer going full, they keep raising fares and "other charges".

But then, this seems consistent with the way Economics applies to India. For example, in Mumbai there are 500,000 empty flats (and the number is going up all the time). But they keep claiming that prices are going up. Forget the fact that no one is buying (no one with hard-earned money can afford to buy), the prices keep going up anyway!

Ha. just received a third email of this type on yet another account that I have. I only gave one account of mine (a hotmail account) to Jet and I dont get this marketing email there for which I must thank god for small mercies I guess.

If they keep spamming on this scale they are going to end up suddenly finding even their regular mail like frequent flyer statements, e-tickets etc landing up in various ISP spam folders.

They're sending out a lot of marketing mail (as far as I can see, unsolicited) titled "Rs.500 Off on tickets + 2000 Bonus JPMiles. Enrol now with JetPrivilege!"

Starts off with "This is a marketing initiative. If you are an existing JetPrivilege member, please write to jpnewsletter@jetairways.com"

So far I've received it on an address I use to read network operations mailing lists, and another that I use to read linux mailing lists.

i don't think its desperate....9w have a habbit of sending out useless emails....half of them don't make any sense....

Yes, they seem quite desperate. Also I find it interesting that even though their flights are no longer going full, they keep raising fares and "other charges".

with the demise of kingfisher they felt raising fares would work for them....at the end of the day they are the only full service airline left along with ai....both have been raising fares....

not quite sure what you are basing the fact on that they are no longer going full....i take over a hundred 9w flights a year & the majority are full....a number of times i have been waitlisted & got the confirmation at the airport....

They're sending out a lot of marketing mail (as far as I can see, unsolicited) titled "Rs.500 Off on tickets + 2000 Bonus JPMiles. Enrol now with JetPrivilege!"

Starts off with "This is a marketing initiative. If you are an existing JetPrivilege member, please write to jpnewsletter@jetairways.com"

So far I've received it on an address I use to read network operations mailing lists, and another that I use to read linux mailing lists.
Seems like random shots in the dark - a very Jet-esque "strategy" that they seem to apply to everything.

i don't think its desperate....9w have a habbit of sending out useless emails....half of them don't make any sense....
Yah. They do love their "now, earn JetPoints at coffeeshop and tailor shop" emails. But they never seem to send out mailers that could actually generate any real revenue.

Yah. They do love their "now, earn JetPoints at coffeeshop and tailor shop" emails. But they never seem to send out mailers that could actually generate any real revenue.

to be fair to them, it gives them revenue. these miles are not being generated in thin air, each of these tailors and coffee shops and apparel merchandisers are basically using the jet program as their mode of rewarding their customers and they pay for the miles they get credited to the customer's accounts.

so the more number of shoppers claiming them, more the revenue for 9w.

not quite sure what you are basing the fact on that they are no longer going full....i take over a hundred 9w flights a year & the majority are full....a number of times i have been waitlisted & got the confirmation at the airport....BOM-DEL seem to be the only ones full these days, though...(Maybe MAA-DEL as well)

with the demise of kingfisher they felt raising fares would work for them....at the end of the day they are the only full service airline left along with ai....both have been raising fares....

Also, they are Konnect-ing too much these days, so almost 80% of their flights are not "full-service" any longer!

I got this spam to an email ID I used to book a ticket ages ago (sept 2009?) which I credited to M&M. ;)

BOM-DEL seem to be the only ones full these days, though...(Maybe MAA-DEL as well)

del-bom is definitely full....i'm flying this route 3-4 times a month....del-maa i only do 6-7 times a year but that seems to be full as well....

but recently, my flights to ixc, ccu, vns & blr have also been full....

Also, they are Konnect-ing too much these days, so almost 80% of their flights are not "full-service" any longer!

i agree....there are just too many konnect flights....

to be fair to them, it gives them revenue. these miles are not being generated in thin air, each of these tailors and coffee shops and apparel merchandisers are basically using the jet program as their mode of rewarding their customers and they pay for the miles they get credited to the customer's accounts.

so the more number of shoppers claiming them, more the revenue for 9w.

True, but that revenue via an assortment of third parties is minuscule compared to real revenue from their actual business of flying people from A to B.

And I'm not talking about something that involved spending money like plastering Marine Drive with illuminated Hello Tomorrow ads or splurging on entire pages of newspapers and magazines like Lufthansa or Air France.

I've never even seen a simple email (which basically costs nothing to send) that tells us:
* Now, Double Dilly to Singapore
* Now, Bombay to Sharjah
* Now, Jet2Dubai 4 times Daily
* Now, no more Bahrain... Actually, yes Bahrain.... Then again, maybe not ;)

(Okay, I was poking fun with that last one)

But instead of advertising new destinations or increased frequencies, they choose to bombard us with crap about Barista and Rosenthal (like anyone's going to switch to Jet only because Jet will serve their diminishing meals on second-grade crockery).

I need to get the wife signed up to JP for flights to be taken in a couple months - might use this then. How do you sign up? Is there a promo code? Any T&Cs?

True, but that revenue via an assortment of third parties is minuscule compared to real revenue from their actual business of flying people from A to B.

And I'm not talking about something that involved spending money like plastering Marine Drive with illuminated Hello Tomorrow ads or splurging on entire pages of newspapers and magazines like Lufthansa or Air France.

I've never even seen a simple email (which basically costs nothing to send) that tells us:
* Now, Double Dilly to Singapore
* Now, Bombay to Sharjah
* Now, Jet2Dubai 4 times Daily
* Now, no more Bahrain... Actually, yes Bahrain.... Then again, maybe not ;)

(Okay, I was poking fun with that last one)

But instead of advertising new destinations or increased frequencies, they choose to bombard us with crap about Barista and Rosenthal (like anyone's going to switch to Jet only because Jet will serve their diminishing meals on second-grade crockery).

i get your point, but try getting mine. if JP has to be a separate profit centre, the guy who heads JP is trying to earn revenue. never mind that their new upgraded cRM systems should be working on targetting customers according to their various activities etc. the double dilly and all that, can wait for the monthly or annual newsletter or a line in their annual report which only analysts read

Hee hee hee!

Well, let me put it this way:

Promoting coffee shops is not essential, and it should be in addition to promoting flights. Not instead of.

That would serve them well.

Perhaps it comes down to JP making the noise (empty vessels and all that) and not Jet Airways. Similar end result though.

Perhaps it comes down to JP making the noise (empty vessels and all that) and not Jet Airways. Similar end result though.

+1. a case of working in silos, to use corporate jargon ;) but i suspect we may be on the same page now :D

I need to get the wife signed up to JP for flights to be taken in a couple months - might use this then. How do you sign up? Is there a promo code? Any T&Cs?

just go to their website & create an account....no promo code to sign up....:)

I need to get the wife signed up to JP for flights to be taken in a couple months - might use this then. How do you sign up? Is there a promo code? Any T&Cs?

if you want the 2000 free jp miles, you can also go to facebook.com/jetairways and pick up a link from there for 2000 free jp miles.

if you want the 500 rs. discount codes going out to random members, i suspect you must wait to get one of your own ;)

if you want the 2000 free jp miles, you can also go to facebook.com/jetairways and pick up a link from there for 2000 free jp miles.

cool....didn't know about that....is this only for new accounts????

Thanks for the Facebook tip, A2A. Seems they are running a 2500 joining bonus offer now.

Keyser, I can see a INR 2500 off offer for existing accounts for domestic tickets. I'm sure with your travel frequencies, you can make use of it :)

Booking Validity: September 1 - 3, 2012
Travel Vailidity: Up to October 31, 2012
Valid for travel in Economy only

JetPrivilege terms and conditions apply

In order to avail this discount, the guest (recipient of the email) has to enrol into JetPrivilege and then log into his / her JetPrivilege account with his / her JetPrivilege number and password. This discount is not available if the newly enrolled JetPrivilege member tries to book the ticket without logging into his / her new JetPrivilege account.

This discount is valid only on return trips within India, booked and ticketed on jetairways.com, for travel on Jet Airways and JetKonnect

The discount is available only on the base fare + YQ, of the ticket

The discount under this promotion cannot be combined with any other promotional offer of Jet Airways or JetKonnect
In case of any changes, cancellations, re-issues, fare rules as mentioned on the ticket will apply.

Jet Airways reserves the right to withdraw or cancel this offer / discount or modify or alter the terms and conditions of this offer/discount at any time without giving any reason whatsoever

Created an account, got the 2500 miles instantly (promo code to use is FBENB, if you don't want to go via the Facebook link).

Don't ask me what I'll do with these miles :p

They are not only desperate to gain new ones - they are ensuring they are losing their old ones too!

I just called to check on a booking I had made and found out the JetDimwits had cancelled it!! :mad:

What a class act...

Absolute hopeless characters over there at their call center!!! :rolleyes: :td:

(now checking Sabre - they probably combined 2 flights, which is the reason why...idi*ts, idi*ts!)

Keyser, I can see a INR 2500 off offer for existing accounts for domestic tickets. I'm sure with your travel frequencies, you can make use of it :)

unlikely....more details here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india-based-airlines/1383156-good-deal-jet-airways-upto-rs-2500-off.html

unlikely....more details here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india-based-airlines/1383156-good-deal-jet-airways-upto-rs-2500-off.html
Noticed that thread after I posted. Uncanny that they can make a promotion so useless :)

Noticed that thread after I posted. Uncanny that they can make a promotion so useless :)

they have gotten extremely good at it....:p

Noticed that thread after I posted. Uncanny that they can make a promotion so useless :)

That they do all the time.