Air France Frequence Plus - Buy extra luggage allowance in Affaires

Flying in a couple of weeks and my Affaires luggage allowance is 2PC at 32kgs each. I wanna take another bag and have no status on AF. Tried looking everywhere on the site but no details of costs for an extra PC.

AF site says that I should log onto MMB but there is no place to buy the extra allowance on there. Its a DL stock ticket.

Anyone know if I can pay on that day in NCL or pre-book it and what will the cost be?

This is the link to the AF site for extra baggage allowance purchase

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/resainfovol/services/achat_franchise_bagages.htm

This is the link to the AF site for extra baggage allowance purchase

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/resainfovol/services/achat_franchise_bagages.htm

I have been to that link a few times now but I really can't see any prices. All it says is to see costs that I need to log in via MMB which I do and still nothing.

Found something

If your baggage allowance authorizes the transport of 1 baggage item at no extra charge, your second baggage item will be charged €75. Beyond this second baggage item, all additional baggage will be charged the same amount as if your baggage allowance authorized the transport of more than 1 baggage item.
If your baggage allowance authorizes the transport of more than 1 baggage item at no extra charge, all additional baggage will be charged €200.

Am I reading this right? If you fly Economy your second bag onward is €75 but if you fly Business your 3rd bag is €200?

Doesn't seem fair. Can anyone confirm this is correct?

Yes.

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/guidevoyageur/pratique/bagage_franchise_airfrance.htm

If you exceed your baggage allowance

Your baggage allowance authorizes the transport of 1 baggage item at no extra charge.
Your second baggage item will be charged:

* €70 for flights departing from Europe to the United States,
* 75 USD for flights between the United States and a country outside the European zone,
* 100 USD for flights departing from the United States to Europe,
* 75 CAD for flights departing from Canada,
* €75 for flights departing from Europe to Canada,
* 75 USD for flights departing from a country outside the European zone to Canada or the United States.

Beyond this second baggage item, all additional baggage will be charged the same amount as if your baggage allowance authorized the transport of more than 1 baggage item.

Your baggage allowance authorizes the transport of more than 1 baggage item at no extra charge.
All additional baggage will be charged:

* €200 for flights departing from Europe,
* 200 CAD for flights departing from Canada,
* 200 USD for flights departing from the United States to a country outside the European zone,
* 285 USD for flights departing from the United States to Europe,

If you are intending to travel with lots of luggage, I would advise you to investigate the option of using a luggage forwarding service/courier company. Some have very competitive rates, and this also enables you to enjoy your journey without the burden of any checked luggage.

Yes.


If you are intending to travel with lots of luggage, I would advise you to investigate the option of using a luggage forwarding service/courier company. Some have very competitive rates, and this also enables you to enjoy your journey without the burden of any checked luggage.

That's a little silly? Anyway their rules I guess.

Just my destination has the most awkward custom laws so better to carry stuff with you.

You get a 20% discount if you 'order' extra luggage at OLCI or in MMB versus the airport price.

Doesn't seem fair.

Why? I mean not any less fair than saying that if you are entitled to 1 free bag the second cost you a little and the third much more. In fact, you get a priority-treated 32kg 3rd bag at the same price as a Y passenger would get his/her non-priority 23kg 3rd bag so equally they may feel that they have been short-changed. Someone travelling in F with status is allowed 4 bags already, do you also think they should get their ultra priority 32kg 5th at €75?

Why? I mean not any less fair than saying that if you are entitled to 1 free bag the second cost you a little and the third much more. In fact, you get a priority-treated 32kg 3rd bag at the same price as a Y passenger would get his/her non-priority 23kg 3rd bag so equally they may feel that they have been short-changed. Someone travelling in F with status is allowed 4 bags already, do you also think they should get their ultra priority 32kg 5th at €75?

They feel they would have been shortchanged when AF charged me 4 times what they have paid. Hmmm alright then :rolleyes:

They are allowed their first extra PC at €75 where as me who should be a better customer for AF is charged their first extra PC at €200

And they feel shortchanged? lol

They feel they would have been shortchanged when AF charged me 4 times what they have paid. Hmmm alright then :rolleyes:

They are allowed their first extra PC at €75 where as me who should be a better customer for AF is charged their first extra PC at €200

And they feel shortchanged? lol

I think you misunderstand.

You get 2 bags free, and the first thing you are charged is the third (and subsequent) bag fee of €200. You are not charged the second bag fee of €70 that the economy passenger is charged.

For 2 bags you pay €0 while they pay €70. You are exempted from payment of the standard second-bag fee.

For 3 bags you pay €200, while for 3 bags they pay €270.

History can motivate the strangeness of the rules.
Flights to US used to have a two-piece concepts until the end of 2009. On most airlines Y pax were allowed two bags of 23kgs and C pax two bags of 32kgs. When the change took place, Y pax were limited to one bag but a sweetener was to allow the second bag at a "cheap" cost.

They feel they would have been shortchanged when AF charged me 4 times what they have paid. Hmmm alright then :rolleyes:

They are allowed their first extra PC at €75 where as me who should be a better customer for AF is charged their first extra PC at €200

And they feel shortchanged? lol

As irishguy28 pointed out I think you misunderstood what I meant (for which I apologise if I wasn't too clear - sorry). I didn't mean that they would feel shortchanged under the current system, not at all, but that they could feel shortchanged if as I think you were suggesting you were to pay €75 for a third bag. I was pointing out that 'their' second bag is a non-priority, 23kg bag while your third bag is a priority 32kg bag so objectively, your additional bag costs AF quite a lot more than the additional bag of a Y customer and therefore should be priced more.

As irishguy28 pointed out I think you misunderstood what I meant (for which I apologise if I wasn't too clear - sorry). I didn't mean that they would feel shortchanged under the current system, not at all, but that they could feel shortchanged if as I think you were suggesting you were to pay €75 for a third bag. I was pointing out that 'their' second bag is a non-priority, 23kg bag while your third bag is a priority 32kg bag so objectively, your additional bag costs AF quite a lot more than the additional bag of a Y customer and therefore should be priced more.

I think that the fee indicated for the third bag in J is 23kg not 32kg:
"Affaires
You can transport 2 baggage items weighing up to 32 kg each at no extra charge. Beyond this allowance, the weight of each extra baggage item must not exceed 23 kg.

Are you a Flying Blue Silver, Gold, Platinum, or SkyTeam Elite / Elite Plus member? You can transport one additional baggage item weighing up to 32 kg. "

I think that the fee indicated for the third bag in J is 23kg not 32kg:
"Affaires
You can transport 2 baggage items weighing up to 32 kg each at no extra charge. Beyond this allowance, the weight of each extra baggage item must not exceed 23 kg.

Are you a Flying Blue Silver, Gold, Platinum, or SkyTeam Elite / Elite Plus member? You can transport one additional baggage item weighing up to 32 kg. "

Ah, thanks that's interesting - I didn't realise that the extra bags were capped at a lower weight limit. I think it is likely to make it more confusing for people who buy it.