United MileagePlus (Consolidated) - 787 Domestic Schedule/Routes *UPDATE POST 452 [26 OCT]*




JOSECONLSCREW28
Aug 29, 12, 7:25 pm
Here's the domestic schedule for the 787 :



City Pair: - Begin Date: - End Date: - Frequency:

IAH-EWR-IAH - Nov. 4 - Jan. 3, 2013 - Daily, except Nov. 18


IAH-SFO-IAH - Nov. 4 - Dec. 2 - 5x week


IAH-ORD-IAH - Nov. 4 - Dec. 3 - 6x week


IAH-LAX-IAH - Nov. 4 - Dec. 3 - 6x week


IAH-CLE-IAH - Nov. 10 - Nov. 10 - One-day service


IAH-IAD-IAH - Nov. 17 - Nov.17 - One-day service


IAH-SFO-IAH - Dec. 3 - Jan. 3, 2013 - Daily


IAH-LAX-IAH - Dec. 4 - Jan. 3, 2013 - Daily


IAH-DEN-IAH - Dec. 5 - Jan. 2, 2013 - Daily


IAH-LAX-IAH - Jan. 3, 2013 - March 31, 2013 - Daily


IAH-ORD-IAH - Jan. 4, 2013 - March 29, 2013 - Daily


IAH-DEN-IAH - March 31, 2013 - Open - Daily


UnitedFlyGuy
Aug 29, 12, 7:28 pm
Just saw this in an email. ^ Definitely going to book a flight to see it before it hits the international routes.

edcho
Aug 29, 12, 7:30 pm
Interesting... What happened to MCO?


rch4u
Aug 29, 12, 7:32 pm
None of the IAD-IAH frequencies show the 787 on November 17 ... any guesses which it will be?

UnitedFlyGuy
Aug 29, 12, 7:32 pm
Why would it go to MCO? It's just touring the hubs.

joder
Aug 29, 12, 7:35 pm
The very next question... when does the booking open up?

JOSECONLSCREW28
Aug 29, 12, 7:35 pm
Why would it go to MCO? It's just touring the hubs.

MCO for MX. But probably not for a long while.

N830MH
Aug 29, 12, 7:38 pm
The very next question... when does the booking open up?

Yeah, I can't find it! I'm trying to get a ticket. I am not quite sure for which the flight# is that.

Can anyone need my help to fly on 787-8 Dreamliner. I need fly the 787-8 Dreamliner.

TWA Guy
Aug 29, 12, 7:40 pm
Looks like I'll be routing via EWR/ORD/DEN and IAH on my way from IAD to AUS in November!

CDKing
Aug 29, 12, 7:44 pm
The very next question... when does the booking open up?

Good question. I have a SFO-IAH during the time span

CleUnited
Aug 29, 12, 7:45 pm
I don't care what I'm doing I will be there in cle when it shows up

EkekoBWI
Aug 29, 12, 7:58 pm
Might be sufficient reason for a hoarder like me to burn 50k on domestic UA metal for BF (fingers crossed they release some seats).

FriendlySkies
Aug 29, 12, 8:00 pm
Thanks for posting the flight info. I see two widebody (764 & 762) flight on IAH-EWR on Jan. 3. Hopefully they load this flight soon, as I'd like to fly it before continuing onto EWR-SIN.

CDKing
Aug 29, 12, 8:08 pm
Might be sufficient reason for a hoarder like me to burn 50k on domestic UA metal for BF (fingers crossed they release some seats).

probably better off booking one way in Y and one way in F. I've already been in the same J seat on 777 so to me its not worth the extra miles to try out the same seat but different plane. I'm happy with coach for these short fligts

FriendlySkies
Aug 29, 12, 8:09 pm
Might be sufficient reason for a hoarder like me to burn 50k on domestic UA metal for BF (fingers crossed they release some seats).

I believe it's 25K for o/w saver domestic F. At least that's what I'm seeing if I were to redeem o/w IAH-EWR in C on the 764.

exerda
Aug 29, 12, 8:10 pm
For IAD-IAH, we can choose between the 787 or a CRJ-200 or an E-145! Guess which flight I'd be taking on 11/17! (Yes, I know there's a 319 and a CR7 on 11/17 at the moment, but there have been plenty of days I've had the choice of no mainline and only one CR7 on that route, too...)

FriendlySkies
Aug 29, 12, 8:16 pm
For IAD-IAH, we can choose between the 787 or a CRJ-200 or an E-145! Guess which flight I'd be taking on 11/17! (Yes, I know there's a 319 and a CR7 on 11/17 at the moment, but there have been plenty of days I've had the choice of no mainline and only one CR7 on that route, too...)

I'd definitely go with the CRJ-200! ;-):D

ACVBear
Aug 29, 12, 8:28 pm
hmm I wonder when these will be loaded into the schedule... I happen to be doing LAX-IAH-MCO and return in december and might as well if I have the chance, right?

drowelf
Aug 29, 12, 8:34 pm
Thats great I fly IAH<->EWR at least 3-4 times a month. November/December here it comes. !

JOSECONLSCREW28
Aug 29, 12, 8:41 pm
They will be available for sale September 1st.

CDKing
Aug 29, 12, 8:45 pm
They will be available for sale September 1st.

Makes sense. Friday night is when all the schedule changes get uploaded. For the first time i'm actually hoping for a "Acknowledge Schedule Change" message on my Saturday morning reservation check :)

warreng24
Aug 29, 12, 8:45 pm
They will be available for sale September 1st.

Thank you for sharing the info, JOSECONLSCREW28!


IAH-CLE-IAH - Nov. 10 - Nov. 10 - One-day service

Wow. Is this going to be the first scheduled widebody into CLE in how long? Hopefully the rampers still remember how to handle the widebody cargo loader.

Mike Jacoubowsky
Aug 29, 12, 8:46 pm
100% mid-cons. Interesting. Guess it gives more people an opportunity to fly it, and reduces the frustration level from someone giving a lot of importance to that plane on a long flight and having it yanked out from under them.

Still, most anyone holds up well for a 2.5-4 hour flight. It's about the 4.5 hour mark that you feel like you'd rather be elsewhere, when are you landing, etc. How does that experience differ on the 787?

CALMSP
Aug 29, 12, 9:19 pm
Interesting... What happened to MCO?

it was never planned for MCO prior to the release of this data. I know everyone said it would, and it would have, if we were not merged.

I didnt feel like jumping in on the discussion at the time and spill the beans on these pairings prior to the press release.

ORDnHKG
Aug 29, 12, 10:11 pm
Does anyone know when UA will receive the 787 ? It should be sometime in October right ?

I was wondering perhaps it may fly to SFO on Oct 7 for fleet week just to show off.

UnitedFlyGuy
Aug 29, 12, 10:25 pm
Does anyone know when UA will receive the 787 ? It should be sometime in October right ?

I was wondering perhaps it may fly to SFO on Oct 7 for fleet week just to show off.

End of September.

N830MH
Aug 29, 12, 10:57 pm
Thank you for sharing the info, JOSECONLSCREW28!




Wow. Is this going to be the first scheduled widebody into CLE in how long? Hopefully the rampers still remember how to handle the widebody cargo loader.

Actually, it just only one-day trip but, not everyday.

steve64
Aug 29, 12, 11:18 pm
100% mid-cons. Interesting. Guess it gives more people an opportunity to fly it, and reduces the frustration level from someone giving a lot of importance to that plane on a long flight and having it yanked out from under them.

Still, most anyone holds up well for a 2.5-4 hour flight. It's about the 4.5 hour mark that you feel like you'd rather be elsewhere, when are you landing, etc. How does that experience differ on the 787?

Shirley (don't call me that :p), you realize that these initial skeds are not to optimize the aircraft to its best mission, but optimize it for the best familiarization. And NOT to familiarize the passengers, but the employees.

So yea, a lot of hub-to-hub. And with ORD/IAH as the major hubs, that's a lot of mid-cons. Even lil ole CLE gets to see the plane one day.

LEONIDES
Aug 30, 12, 12:23 am
So geeked. Can't wait.

I need to fly to SFO on the 4 of November. Lucky me. I will try my darndest to get one of these. I would pay extra for the higher air pressures on the 787. (My eardrums suffer from the pressurization/depressurization all the time. Hopefully, it will be easier on the 787.)

Of course, given my recent run of luck, I will probably buy one of these tickets, show up to the gate - and there will be an equipment change! They'll probably replace the Dreamliner 787 with a ghetto-bucket 757.....

Wx4caster
Aug 30, 12, 12:49 am
I think UA needs to give both the plane and the crews working it some burn-in time on longer domestic flights before starting it out on the ultra-long hauls. Perhaps a route where they could try out a pseudo-BF service to adequately put the all the onboard service equipment through its paces. Hummm..... maybe some HNL flights would do the trick :D Hey, Guam is still a hub, and I'm sure they want to see it too!

I'm not sure what's more unrealistic - seeing a 787 at HNL, or seeing BF (lite) service return :(

CubsFanJohn
Aug 30, 12, 1:19 am
Thanks for posting! Can't wait to save up the $$$ to fly one. Hopefully ORD-IAH or something like that.

ElliottMB
Aug 30, 12, 5:39 am
http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=83680&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1730079&highlight=

Exciting eh?

shortkidd
Aug 30, 12, 6:00 am
Just saw this in an email. ^ Definitely going to book a flight to see it before it hits the international routes.

Seems like a waste to fly domestically. The money maker for this is international routes.

mh3265a
Aug 30, 12, 6:04 am
Kinda disappointed in the domestic routes....all IAH based

tale
Aug 30, 12, 6:14 am
I was hoping I would be able to go on it for the thanksgiving EWR IAH but I don't see it loaded in November.

AZjohns
Aug 30, 12, 6:18 am
I was hoping I would be able to go on it for the thanksgiving EWR IAH but I don't see it loaded in November.

They will be available for sale September 1st.

mobilebucky
Aug 30, 12, 6:19 am
I was hoping I would be able to go on it for the thanksgiving EWR IAH but I don't see it loaded in November.

9/1 is the date those flights will be loaded into the system.

Vulcan
Aug 30, 12, 6:21 am
Seems like a waste to fly domestically. The money maker for this is international routes.

This is the same as CO did when they introduced the 777. It is more to give the pilots and flight crews familiarity with the aircraft than anything else. The more and shorter segments, the more crew can become familiar. Remember that even the ground crews (baggage handlers, etc.) need hands-on training.

sbm12
Aug 30, 12, 6:22 am
Seems like a waste to fly domestically. The money maker for this is international routes.
They are flying it internationally. A lot. But it has to get between the operational base and the gateways. And they need to get enough crew flying on it long enough to be familiar enough to fly it on the long-haul routes. This isn't like they are wholly dedicating the aircraft to only domestic routes forever.
Kinda disappointed in the domestic routes....all IAH based

Yeah, it really is a shame that the initial routes will be run from where the crew and maintenance bases are.

UnitedFlyGuy
Aug 30, 12, 6:24 am
Just saw this in an email. ^ Definitely going to book a flight to see it before it hits the international routes.

Seems like a waste to fly domestically. The money maker for this is international routes.

I'm just doing it to ride the first flight. Rode the the first 777 flight also.

mh3265a
Aug 30, 12, 6:34 am
Yeah, it really is a shame that the initial routes will be run from where the crew and maintenance bases are.

I know thinking outside the box can be hard. I guess just one day flying to IAD and returning is disappointing. And, I know it would be so hard to have their crews stay overnight in a location - the challenges that it would pose :rolleyes:

CDKing
Aug 30, 12, 6:55 am
Of course its mainly going to be red-eyes for the direction i fly :(

wxguy
Aug 30, 12, 7:08 am
100% mid-cons. Interesting. Guess it gives more people an opportunity to fly it, and reduces the frustration level from someone giving a lot of importance to that plane on a long flight and having it yanked out from under them.

Still, most anyone holds up well for a 2.5-4 hour flight. It's about the 4.5 hour mark that you feel like you'd rather be elsewhere, when are you landing, etc. How does that experience differ on the 787?

I flew the NRT-BOS JL non-stop in J, at just over 12 hours. It's still a 12-hour airplane ride! Sure, the LED lights were cool as were the high-tech potties; the windows are larger and darken electronically; the cabin altitude is lower (6K ft vs 8K ft at 39K ft altitude), and the humidity is higher (I didn't notice that). BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE INTERIOR. The JL J seat was OK, but not great. 2 x 2 x 2 in J was reasonable, but certainly not spacious; nor was it 180 degrees flat.

I poked my head into Y, and the pax sitting in the 2 x 4 x 2 configured cabin looked like they were "enjoying" it just as much as any passenger in UA E-. (Oh, and UA's interior is 3 x 3 x 3!) IT'S ALL ABOUT THE INTERIOR.

What I'm hoping is that we UA flyers will benefit from its hopefully superior dispatch reliability, compared to the frequent MXs we now endure on the current widebody international fleet.

shortkidd
Aug 30, 12, 7:10 am
Kinda disappointed in the domestic routes....all IAH based

While United WAS Chicago's hometown airline.....this new COdbaUA company is Houston's hometown airline.....as a Chicagoan I find that sad, but that's ok because here I am an on AA flight at 35k right now sending this message....does COdbaUA have wifi yet on anything other than PS routes?

EWR764
Aug 30, 12, 7:53 am
While United WAS Chicago's hometown airline.....this new COdbaUA company is Houston's hometown airline

I don't think anyone in Houston feels that way anymore. Perhaps UA is an airline without a home? :p

sbm12
Aug 30, 12, 8:05 am
I know thinking outside the box can be hard. I guess just one day flying to IAD and returning is disappointing. And, I know it would be so hard to have their crews stay overnight in a location - the challenges that it would pose :rolleyes:

The crews will be overnighting a lot with the routes as planned.

Sorry that IAD doesn't get more flights on it but they aren't going to fly it where the economics don't make sense just to make a couple people on FT happy.

exerda
Aug 30, 12, 8:53 am
Of course its mainly going to be red-eyes for the direction i fly :(

If you get an upgrade, it sure beats the typical red-eye in domestic F.

tale
Aug 30, 12, 9:21 am
This is intersting it says

IAH-EWR-IAH
8 a.m. northbound
3:30 p.m. southbound

I am booked on the 3:15 p.m, EWR - IAH which may mean they will do a schedule + equipment change

Madone59
Aug 30, 12, 10:32 am
Here's the domestic schedule for the 787 :

City Pair: - Begin Date: - End Date: - Frequency:

IAH-ORD-IAH - Jan. 4, 2013 - March 29, 2013 - Daily


I have ORD-IAH on 1/26 - I really hope I catch it.

GBadger
Aug 30, 12, 10:38 am
Assuming I can get it to price out alright, I think this means I need to go through IAH on my way to SFO in December :).

CALMSP
Aug 30, 12, 1:32 pm
While United WAS Chicago's hometown airline.....this new COdbaUA company is Houston's hometown airline.....as a Chicagoan I find that sad, but that's ok because here I am an on AA flight at 35k right now sending this message....does COdbaUA have wifi yet on anything other than PS routes?

not yet, but they are coming! A few to be done this year.

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 1:42 pm
not yet, but they are coming! A few to be done this year.

How many and what are they starting with first?

cyclogenesis
Aug 30, 12, 1:55 pm
While United WAS Chicago's hometown airline.....this new COdbaUA company is Houston's hometown airline.....as a Chicagoan I find that sad, but that's ok because here I am an on AA flight at 35k right now sending this message....does COdbaUA have wifi yet on anything other than PS routes?

Completely Agree! and I have no reason to fly to IAH.. Bummed!

palmetto86
Aug 30, 12, 2:05 pm
What time do schedule loads take place? Early AM on the 1st?

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 2:10 pm
Too anyone booking these flights to be the first, please hold off as these will probably NOT be the first flights. It says it in the press release. So be warned, you will not be on the first flight if you book for one of those days.

I would also guess that the plane will be delivered to ORD and not IAH. I expect a SEA-ORD Delivery flight. No way Chicago Boeing and United deliver that plane to IAH.

CDKing
Aug 30, 12, 2:34 pm
What time do schedule loads take place? Early AM on the 1st?

I live in Eastern time, usually notice it Friday evening and runs into early Saturday morning.

cchuang1980
Aug 30, 12, 3:45 pm
Does anyone notice the announced schedule is different from the current flight schedule?

Say, IAH-ORD-IAH 787 schedule from the announcement
7:25 a.m. northbound
11:15 a.m. southbound

However, the current flight schedule best match to that is

UA1580 IAH-ORD 7:31am departure
UA1510 ORD-IAH 11:18am departure

is it safe to assume these two flight will be converted to 787 this Sunday?

rch4u
Aug 30, 12, 5:26 pm
The IAD-IAH 3:50 PM departure time does not match up with anything currently in the system.

xzh445
Aug 30, 12, 7:34 pm
The IAD-IAH 3:50 PM departure time does not match up with anything currently in the system.

See several post above. The schedule will be loaded Fri night/Sat am. (which explains why you don't see the updated schedule yet)

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 8:19 pm
Does anyone notice the announced schedule is different from the current flight schedule?

Say, IAH-ORD-IAH 787 schedule from the announcement
7:25 a.m. northbound
11:15 a.m. southbound

However, the current flight schedule best match to that is

UA1580 IAH-ORD 7:31am departure
UA1510 ORD-IAH 11:18am departure

is it safe to assume these two flight will be converted to 787 this Sunday?

Did you check the start date? Look in November, the times match.

CDKing
Aug 30, 12, 8:22 pm
See several post above. The schedule will be loaded Fri night/Sat am. (which explains why you don't see the updated schedule yet)

You are correct. Its not uncommon for flight times/equipment to be adjusted weekly.

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 8:25 pm
You are correct. Its not uncommon for flight times/equipment to be adjusted weekly.

The times are correct for IAH-ORD. Both ways. North bound is a 753 southbound 738

CDKing
Aug 30, 12, 8:37 pm
The times are correct for IAH-ORD. Both ways. North bound is a 753 southbound 738

It depends on the route. Some are hard to guess.

IAH-CLE-IAH on 11/10 currently is 7:47am and return 2:38 p.m. or 5:35 p.m
According to the article is supposed to be 7am and 4PM return. Either return could be changed to 4PM

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 9:04 pm
It depends on the route. Some are hard to guess.

IAH-CLE-IAH on 11/10 currently is 7:47am and return 2:38 p.m. or 5:35 p.m
According to the article is supposed to be 7am and 4PM return. Either return could be changed to 4PM

Ya, I"m sure by Saturday it will be all fixed.. I'm waiting to hear when will the first flight be!

cchuang1980
Aug 30, 12, 9:10 pm
Did you check the start date? Look in November, the times match.

Sure, haven't check ORD-IAH, but you might want to pick up a date other then Sunday for the IAH-ORD flight.

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 9:23 pm
Sure, haven't check ORD-IAH, but you might want to pick up a date other then Sunday for the IAH-ORD flight.

We'll that is the first date. That is why they put that. CO is known to have different schedules throughout the week. Usually a few minutes. In this case it varies a few minutes on different dates. The return looks too be consistent though. Same time.

LEONIDES
Aug 30, 12, 9:58 pm
A 5:45 IAH-SFO flight on a Sunday. Exactly what I need. I am going to get it.

And I will probably burn at least an RPU, if not an SWU, on this flight, to see what "the suite life" is like in Y.

I. Am. Totally. Stoked.

LASUA1K
Aug 30, 12, 10:05 pm
A 5:45 IAH-SFO flight on a Sunday. Exactly what I need. I am going to get it.

And I will probably burn at least an RPU, if not an SWU, on this flight, to see what "the suite life" is like in Y.

I. Am. Totally. Stoked.

It's going to be like sardeles (sardines) back there! I'll take the daily 767 ord-iah If I'm stuck in Y!

Good thing about IAH, I fly there often and usually B fares, as that's the only thing for a one night stay.. So hopefully, this will remain, and I'll be in C.

JOSECONLSCREW28
Aug 31, 12, 12:05 am
Frequency
IAH-SFO-IAH
5:45 p.m. westbound
12:15 a.m. eastbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Dec. 2, 2012
5 x weekly
IAH-LAX-IAH
3:30 p.m. westbound
6:25 p.m. eastbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Dec. 3, 2012
6 x weekly
IAH-ORD-IAH
7:25 a.m. northbound
11:15 a.m. southbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Dec. 3, 2012
6 x weekly
IAH-EWR-IAH
8 a.m. northbound
3:30 p.m. southbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Jan. 3, 2013
Daily, except Nov. 18
IAH-CLE-IAH
7 a.m. northbound
4 p.m. southbound
Nov. 10, 2012
One-day service
IAH-IAD-IAH
7 a.m. northbound
3:50 p.m. southbound
Nov. 17, 2012
One-day service
IAH-SFO-IAH
5:45 p.m. westbound
12:15 a.m. eastbound
Dec. 3, 2012
Jan. 3, 2013
Daily
IAH-LAX-IAH
3:30 p.m. westbound
6:25 p.m. eastbound
Dec. 4, 2012
Jan. 3, 2013
Daily
IAH-DEN-IAH
7:20 a.m. westbound
10:15 a.m. eastbound
Dec. 5, 2012
Jan. 2, 2013
Daily
IAH-LAX-IAH
7:35 a.m. westbound
12:30 p.m. eastbound
Jan. 3, 2013
March 31, 2013
Daily
IAH-ORD-IAH
7:25 a.m. northbound
11:15 a.m. southbound
Jan. 4, 2013
March 29, 2013
Daily
IAH-DEN-IAH
9:15 a.m. westbound
2:15 p.m. eastbound
March 31, 2013 Open Daily

ORDnHKG
Aug 31, 12, 12:26 am
IAH-ORD-IAH
7:25 a.m. northbound
11:15 a.m. southbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Dec. 3, 2012
6 x weekly
IAH-EWR-IAH
8 a.m. northbound
3:30 p.m. southbound
Nov. 4, 2012
Jan. 3, 2013
Daily, except Nov. 18


Can I assume ORD or possibly EWR will be the inaugural revenue flights on Nov 4th since they both leave the earliest during the day ?

LASUA1K
Aug 31, 12, 1:36 am
Can I assume ORD or possibly EWR will be the inaugural revenue flights on Nov 4th since they both leave the earliest during the day ?

None of these will be the first flight. In the press release it states that the first flight will be before this date. This is the test schedule, but the plane may fly sooner.

ORDnHKG
Aug 31, 12, 2:26 am
None of these will be the first flight. In the press release it states that the first flight will be before this date. This is the test schedule, but the plane may fly sooner.

The plane of course will fly sooner for test flights, but they are not revenue flights. I don't really care for first flight, I only care the flight which actually carry revenue pax.

sbm12
Aug 31, 12, 4:44 am
The plane of course will fly sooner for test flights, but they are not revenue flights. I don't really care for first flight, I only care the flight which actually carry revenue pax.

The press release explicitly states that the first revenue flight will be announced at some point in the future. That suggests it will not be any of these.

twoaisleplane
Aug 31, 12, 8:27 am
The plane of course will fly sooner for test flights, but they are not revenue flights. I don't really care for first flight, I only care the flight which actually carry revenue pax.

United's press release expressly says that the first "commercial" flights "are expected to occur prior to November 4".

sb3
Aug 31, 12, 10:03 am
The story made it to cnn.com - http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/travel/united-dreamliner-domestic-routes/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

UnitedFlyGuy
Aug 31, 12, 9:03 pm
Heads up guys - They have been live for a few hours now.

CDKing
Aug 31, 12, 9:08 pm
Heads up guys - They have been live for a few hours now.

You know they couldn't wait :) Let the search for a good fare commence :p

JOSECONLSCREW28
Aug 31, 12, 9:23 pm
UA1435 IAH - SFO 5:53p 8:03p 0410 1635 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1553 SFO - IAH 12:15a 5:41a 0326 1635 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1209 IAH - LAX 3:37p 5:18p 0341 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1694 LAX - IAH 6:28p 11:29p 0301 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1116 IAH - ORD 7:25a 9:56a 0231 925 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1510 ORD - IAH 11:15a 2:00p 0245 925 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1146 IAH - EWR 8:08a 12:27p 0319 1400 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1602 EWR - IAH 1:50p 4:40p 0350 1400 B787-8 Dreamliner
NOVEMBER 4TH

UA60 IAH - CLE 7:00a 10:41a 0241 1090 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA61 CLE - IAH 4:00p 6:07p 0307 1090 B787-8 Dreamliner
November 10th

UA60 IAH - IAD 7:00a 10:51a 0251 1190 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA61 IAD - IAH 3:50p 6:12p 0322 1190 B787-8 Dreamliner
November 17th

UA1254 IAH - SFO 5:45p 7:55p 0410 1635 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1146 SFO - IAH 12:15a 5:41a 0326 1635 B787-8 Dreamliner
DECEMBER 3rd

UA1562 IAH - LAX 3:30p 5:11p 0341 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1694 LAX - IAH 6:25p 11:26p 0301 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
December 4th

UA1420 IAH - DEN 7:20a 8:54a 0234 862 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1219 DEN - IAH 10:15a 1:33p 0218 862 B787-8 Dreamliner
December 5th

UA3 IAH - LAX 7:35a 9:16a 0341 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1430 IAH - LAX 3:30p 5:08p 0338 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1694 LAX - IAH 6:25p 11:24p 0259 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1426 LAX - IAH 12:30p 5:39p 0309 1379 B787-8 Dreamliner
January 3rd

UA1160 IAH - ORD 7:25a 9:57a 0232 925 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1510 ORD - IAH 11:15a 1:57p 0242 925 B787-8 Dreamliner

UA1126 IAH - DEN 9:15a 10:45a 0230 862 B787-8 Dreamliner
UA1650 DEN - IAH 2:15p 5:35p 0220 862 B787-8 Dreamliner
March 31st

ERQTraveler
Aug 31, 12, 9:35 pm
I'm so excited about the 787! I just bought my first class ticket for mid-November!

Is it odd that the system won't let me choose my seat? It says "Reaccomodation Pending - try again later." I bought the ticket online via united.com.

ERQ

djmp
Aug 31, 12, 9:40 pm
I'm so excited about the 787! I just bought my first class ticket for mid-November!

Is it odd that the system won't let me choose my seat? It says "Reaccomodation Pending - try again later." I bought the ticket online via united.com.

ERQ

Grabbed some award tix in BF! Also got accommodation pending.

CDKing
Aug 31, 12, 9:43 pm
I'm so excited about the 787! I just bought my first class ticket for mid-November!

Is it odd that the system won't let me choose my seat? It says "Reaccomodation Pending - try again later." I bought the ticket online via united.com.

ERQ

The schedule changes always show that until Saturday morning. I booked Y award ORD-IAH on 11/4. With my luck i will misconnnect BOS-ORD.

zrs70
Aug 31, 12, 9:44 pm
I booked seats this morning. Now changed to the 787!

ERQTraveler
Aug 31, 12, 9:49 pm
The schedule changes always show that until Saturday morning. I booked Y award ORD-IAH on 11/4. With my luck i will misconnnect BOS-ORD.

Hmmm. I bought 2 seats on the same ticket. My friend and I want to sit together. Do you think the system will automatically seat us together? Can customer service assign seats?

My apologies for basic questions. I don't usually fly United and have no status.

Thanks!

ERQ

PVDtoDEL
Aug 31, 12, 9:54 pm
I've grabbed UA 1209 on 4NOV. Now I've got 24 hours to see whether it'll actually work or not.

CDKing
Aug 31, 12, 9:57 pm
Hmmm. I bought 2 seats on the same ticket. My friend and I want to sit together. Do you think the system will automatically seat us together? Can customer service assign seats?

My apologies for basic questions. I don't usually fly United and have no status.

Thanks!

ERQ

Tomorrow seat selection will be available, or a few hours from now depending on time zone :) Im sure you will be fine. If worst comes to worst and you cant get adjoining seats (I doubt it will be a problem) you have 24 hours from purchase to cancel for refund. Weekly schedule changes get loaded this time every week and no one regardless of elite status can make seat changes on most flights for a few hours

cactus47
Aug 31, 12, 10:11 pm
UA1602 EWR - IAH 1:50p 4:40p 0350 1400 B787-8 Dreamliner


Press release says EWR-IAH is 3:30 pm. That's a big difference! (And big fare difference on 12/30.) I wonder why it changed.

EWR764
Aug 31, 12, 10:18 pm
I'm so excited about the 787! I just bought my first class ticket for mid-November!

Is it odd that the system won't let me choose my seat? It says "Reaccomodation Pending - try again later." I bought the ticket online via united.com.

ERQ

Same here. I bought a ticket earlier today based on the projected schedule, but the actual plan seems to have been tweaked quite a bit. I requested a change and the ticket seems to have reissued but still can't assign seats on the 787 legs.

Maybe the seatmaps haven't been loaded yet? I notice most domestic 787 flights presently have have wide I/N/R availability, FWIW.

Press release says EWR-IAH is 3:30 pm. That's a big difference! (And big fare difference on 12/30.) I wonder why it changed.

Looks like the first rotation for one ship is:

UA1146 IAH - EWR 8:08a 12:27p
UA1602 EWR - IAH 1:50p 4:40p
UA1435 IAH - SFO 5:53p 8:03p
UA1553 SFO - IAH 12:15a 5:41a
rinse, repeat 5x

The 3:10pm departure (usually a 764) arrives IAH after 6pm, which would be too late to fit that schedule.

cactus47
Aug 31, 12, 10:28 pm
Looks like the first rotation for one ship is:

UA1146 IAH - EWR 8:08a 12:27p
UA1602 EWR - IAH 1:50p 4:40p
UA1435 IAH - SFO 5:53p 8:03p
UA1553 SFO - IAH 12:15a 5:41a
rinse, repeat 5x

The 3:10pm departure (usually a 764) arrives IAH after 6pm, which would be too late to fit that schedule.

You're right. I wonder why the press release said 3:30 for EWR-IAH. Odd.

CDKing
Aug 31, 12, 10:51 pm
Maybe the seatmaps haven't been loaded yet? ]

Its typical for the schedule change times from Friday night to early Saturday morning to not see seat assignments or to make seating changes.

Semi OT but I was so psyched for schedule changes, i just noticed 2 of my non 787 related trips now have my first dreaded flight arrives after the next one leaves Grrrrrrrrrr

ERQTraveler
Aug 31, 12, 10:53 pm
I reviewed my ticket details, and it says "757-300" as aircraft and "Purchase" for meal. I know I specifically saw 787-8 Dreamliner and United First when purchasing the ticket. My flights are UA1694 and UA1209. Fare class is P.

So do I really have tickets for 787 in First? Why the discrepancy?

Also, do I have access to the club at LAX and IAH?

ERQ

steve64
Aug 31, 12, 11:01 pm
Booked Nov 4 ORD-IAH-LAX on an M-up fare :D

Everything on the web says both legs are on a 787, tho my ticket receipt says 757-300 for both. Since the web just started showing 787 today, I'm assuming the system that generates the receipts isn't updated yet. But they way COdbUA operates, it could be intentional. If the 787 isn't ready on Nov 4, I can't claim "trip in vain" cuz my receipt says 753 :p

Like everyone else, I can't assign my seats yet. Odd that they don't have the 787 seat map loaded yet. I'll just watch it until they do and grab my seats then. First thing on my list in the morning.

djmp
Aug 31, 12, 11:03 pm
I reviewed my ticket details, and it says "757-300" as aircraft and "Purchase" for meal. I know I specifically saw 787-8 Dreamliner and United First when purchasing the ticket. My flights are UA1694 and UA1209. Fare class is P.

So do I really have tickets for 787 in First? Why the discrepancy?

Also, do I have access to the club at LAX and IAH?

ERQ

Bring up the reservation on united.com: it should show 787-8 Dreamliner.

Sorry - domestic first doesn't give access to the club. Has to be an international connection.

steve64
Aug 31, 12, 11:06 pm
So do I really have tickets for 787 in First? Why the discrepancy?

Also, do I have access to the club at LAX and IAH?

ERQ

Domestic First Class (alone) does not give you access to the UA Clubs.
Is your 787 flight one leg of an overwater international trip ?

djmp
Aug 31, 12, 11:06 pm
Booked Nov 4 ORD-IAH-LAX on an M-up fare :D

Check the price of a P fare (discount First). It's coming in cheaper in some routes than M.

kale73
Aug 31, 12, 11:11 pm
Just booked DEN-IAH on 12/6 and IAH-SFO on 12/10. I'm particularly interested in seeing if the higher cabin pressure / humidity makes a difference. Routing my PHX-BTR roundtrip K fare through additional hubs cost just $9 more than a one-stop connection through IAH, but gives me an extra 1732 PQM, 2598 RDM, and a chance to ride the Dreamliner twice.

ERQTraveler
Aug 31, 12, 11:28 pm
Domestic First Class (alone) does not give you access to the UA Clubs.
Is your 787 flight one leg of an overwater international trip ?

Unfortunately, it's not part of an international trip. I didn't think I would have access but thought I would check with the experts here.

I'm working all night tonight. So I'll keep a close eye on seat selection. I'll post when it's available.

Thanks for all of the info!

ERQ

CaptainMiles
Aug 31, 12, 11:31 pm
I bought an MR with 5 UA flights for 11/4 (and 11/5) including 3 flights on the 787.

All 5 upgrades cleared. It seems that I won't get to experience the economy section of the 787 :p

My route:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m505/ImagesInTheCloud/EWR-IAH-LAX-SFO-IAH-EWR.png

steve64
Aug 31, 12, 11:38 pm
Check the price of a P fare (discount First). It's coming in cheaper in some routes than M.

Yea, I noticed that when I first stared researching LAX<--> IAH 787 trips.
Something very odd going on (imagine that). I had about decided on simply IAH-LAX for my 787 trip. But for the heckuvit decided to try originating in ORD with an IAH connection using the "multi city" option.
Selecting the ORD-IAH leg, most (all) selections were showing an "up to $690" (something close to that) potential price.
When I went to select the 2nd leg, some options did show the final price as $690, but not the 787.
The 787 connection was showing something like $1200 total, but I clicked thru it anyhow (thinking I'd be sticking to just IAH-LAX). But the final price quoted was the $690. I completed the purchase and about 10 minutes later it ticketed at $690.

Before ticketing it, I tried the same multi city search again specifying First. It quoted something like $1100. Cheaper than the $1200 quoted for the 787-to-787 connection M-up fare, but (as expected) higher than the $690 for "less desirable than 787-to-787" options. But in the end, the 787-to-787 M-up priced the same as other connections, making it much less then the quoted F fare.

In my research between LAX nd IAH, all flight seemed to be pricing out at a First fare for $560 or so. No coach options were returned even when I searched for "lowest price" and the lower fare buckets appear to still be available:confused:

CaptainMiles
Sep 1, 12, 12:30 am
Folks,

I started a separate thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread.html) to keep track of FTers flying these early 787 lights, so that we can meet up and share our Dreamliner experiences. Several of you have posted here about 11/4 flight plans. If you are so inclined, please post to the other thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread.html), which will make it easy for us to arrange to meet without going through many pages of posts.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread.html

trust77
Sep 1, 12, 3:17 am
the SEAT maps are showing NOW for all the flights.

you can select your seats now...:)

UnitedFlyGuy
Sep 1, 12, 5:07 am
Grabbed 4B for the IAH-ORD-IAH RT. might grab more.

CDKing
Sep 1, 12, 7:06 am
the SEAT maps are showing NOW for all the flights.

you can select your seats now...:)

Wow a 757-300 looks like the dreamliner :)

http://poley.smugmug.com/Other/United-Continental/i-wKmJ9H2/0/XL/787-or-757-XL.jpg

I took a screenshot of the Redeem upgrade screen where it shows as 787 although I don't think it would make a difference.


I bought an MR with 5 UA flights for 11/4 (and 11/5) including 3 flights on the 787.


I will be on some of your flights. Its really nice they loaded so much R space.

pieper
Sep 1, 12, 8:15 am
booked IAH-ORD on the 757 for November a while ago and used SWUs to upgrade. See now that indeed we'll be trying out the dreamliner :)

colpuck
Sep 1, 12, 8:31 am
I booked the one off IAH-CLE 787 flight on 11NOV12

ORDnHKG
Sep 1, 12, 8:49 am
I wonder why exit window 27 A and L are not consider as the blue E+ seats ?

Got 4L on 11/4 IAH-ORD, 16L on 11/4 ORD-IAH, and 27L on 11/5 IAH-ORD

LASUA1K
Sep 1, 12, 8:59 am
What happens if these flights that people are booking get cancelled? Refund because the 787 gets cancelled? I see people doing turns from IAH, but what if the 787 gets cancelled. Will UA refund?

Also, remember first flights will occur before Nov 4th.

ORDnHKG
Sep 1, 12, 9:03 am
What happens if these flights that people are booking get cancelled? Refund because the 787 gets cancelled? I see people doing turns from IAH, but what if the 787 gets cancelled. Will UA refund?


Well at least for me the 11/4 IAH-ORD-IAH same day turn is award, so if no 787 or cancelled, I will cancel as well and won't cost me a dime, I have 11/5 that is a paid ticket as back up to go back home in ORD anyway.



Also, remember first flights will occur before Nov 4th.

I don't know why you keep saying first flight, the first flight will be in september anyway like someone already mentioned, but it is not a revenue flight and only UA executives can get on anyway, so it is a moot point.

kale73
Sep 1, 12, 9:17 am
What happens if these flights that people are booking get cancelled? Refund because the 787 gets cancelled? I see people doing turns from IAH, but what if the 787 gets cancelled. Will UA refund?

Also, remember first flights will occur before Nov 4th.

My booking is on an itinerary I need to fly anyway, so an equipment change, while disappointing, won't change my travel plans.

I really don't care about "first flights". Unless one's occupation is test pilot, it's unlikely that no one has ever flown in the plane before. :)

ERQTraveler
Sep 1, 12, 9:26 am
What happens if these flights that people are booking get cancelled? Refund because the 787 gets cancelled? I see people doing turns from IAH, but what if the 787 gets cancelled. Will UA refund?

Also, remember first flights will occur before Nov 4th.

I booked a trip (for mid November) because I want to experience United's 787 BusinessFirst product. I figure itll be cheaper to do this on one of the domestic segments rather than on an international route several months later. So although it won't be the inaugural flight, it'll still be a flight on a new 787, which hopefully will be an awesome experience!

If the equipment changes, I'll cancel and get my refund. It's one of the perks of a full fare F ticket. :)

ERQ

LAX
Sep 1, 12, 9:26 am
What happens if these flights that people are booking get cancelled? Refund because the 787 gets cancelled? I see people doing turns from IAH, but what if the 787 gets cancelled. Will UA refund?

Also, remember first flights will occur before Nov 4th.

I doubt it. Equipment changes happen all the time & it's not guaranteed. You can always buy refundable fares, though. However, it's probably cheaper to throw away the nonrefundable ticket & buy another.:D

LAX

wwu123
Sep 1, 12, 9:33 am
I bought an MR with 5 UA flights for 11/4 (and 11/5) including 3 flights on the 787.

All 5 upgrades cleared. It seems that I won't get to experience the economy section of the 787 :p

My route:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m505/ImagesInTheCloud/EWR-IAH-LAX-SFO-IAH-EWR.png

Just booked a business trip SFO-IAH-MCO on 11/5 and MCO-IAH-SFO on 11/9. So I'll be on your same leg out of SFO, though in Y. Chose to burn my last RPU on the return instead, as outbound it'll be a red-eye and not sure how much I'll get the full experience in the dark...

Also thought the first day or two could be at risk if the rollout is delayed?

CDKing
Sep 1, 12, 9:55 am
How does one go about requesting extra early boarding to take pictures?

ORDnHKG
Sep 1, 12, 10:09 am
I booked a trip (for mid November) because I want to experience United's 787 BusinessFirst product. I figure itll be cheaper to do this on one of the domestic segments rather than on an international route several months later. So although it won't be the inaugural flight, it'll still be a flight on a new 787, which hopefully will be an awesome experience!


You know the 787 BusinessFirst product is no different than any other PMCO BusinessFirst product right ? If you are not aiming for the 787 inaugural 11/4 or 11/5, you can fly a much cheaper PMCO 752 with same BusinessFirst seat for ORD-EWR-ORD instead or wait until the fare is lower for the 787 domestic routes, you have several months to try 787 domestically.

We are here just for the inaugural 787 not for the businessfirst product.

steve64
Sep 1, 12, 10:15 am
I don't know why you keep saying first flight, the first flight will be in september anyway like someone already mentioned, but it is not a revenue flight and only UA executives can get on anyway, so it is a moot point.

People keep saying that because it's per the UA Press Release:

The 787 aircraft will display for sale for these domestic routes on united.com and other distribution channels beginning Sept. 1. In October, United will announce plans for the official first commercial 787 flights, which are expected to occur prior to Nov. 4 but only after proving/validation flights and training are complete.

So while we're flying the 787 on it's first day of scheduled service, there will be an official (TBD) inaugural flight(s) ahead of Nov 4. I interpret the word "commercial" to mean a "revenue" flight. I've seen nowhere that states these flights will not be available for sale. I'd imagine the flights would be an equipment swap on some IAH-hub-IAH and that UA isn't committing to a date yet until they see how training/certification is progressing.

And yes, the physical aircraft will have made many flights before the "first flight". I'm sure the execs will have a ride before the inaugural and scheduled entry into service date. Let's not get silly about the context of the word "first" here ;)

LASUA1K
Sep 1, 12, 10:17 am
Well at least for me the 11/4 IAH-ORD-IAH same day turn is award, so if no 787 or cancelled, I will cancel as well and won't cost me a dime, I have 11/5 that is a paid ticket as back up to go back home in ORD anyway.




I don't know why you keep saying first flight, the first flight will be in september anyway like someone already mentioned, but it is not a revenue flight and only UA executives can get on anyway, so it is a moot point.

Nov 4th is not the first revenue flight! The press release even says it. Thats why I'm warning you. Nov 4th is just the start of the schedule. Again, press release says it.

joony
Sep 1, 12, 10:25 am
Shoot, no more window seats on the 4 November IAH-ORD flight :/

ORDnHKG
Sep 1, 12, 11:07 am
So while we're flying the 787 on it's first day of scheduled service, there will be an official (TBD) inaugural flight(s) ahead of Nov 4. I interpret the word "commercial" to mean a "revenue" flight. I've seen nowhere that states these flights will not be available for sale. I'd imagine the flights would be an equipment swap on some IAH-hub-IAH and that UA isn't committing to a date yet until they see how training/certification is progressing.

And yes, the physical aircraft will have made many flights before the "first flight". I'm sure the execs will have a ride before the inaugural and scheduled entry into service date. Let's not get silly about the context of the word "first" here ;)
Nov 4th is not the first revenue flight! The press release even says it. Thats why I'm warning you. Nov 4th is just the start of the schedule. Again, press release says it.

Ah ok, thanks for pointing out, I guess I was confused thought that the first flight is the ferry flight not revenue flight. Now if they just do a swap, would still be all those inaugural activities though ?

Now I am wondering if I should just cancel all those and wait for the real inaugural or not.

LASUA1K
Sep 1, 12, 11:28 am
Ah ok, thanks for pointing out, I guess I was confused thought that the first flight is the ferry flight not revenue flight. Now if they just do a swap, would still be all those inaugural activities though ?

Now I am wondering if I should just cancel all those and wait for the real inaugural or not.

Ya. Thats what i'm thinking. But I flew on ANA's 787, so I think I'll just need to be in IAH sometime before Jan.

ANA in coach was great. Very spacious quiet cabin. Not looking forward to 3 3 3 in Y.

DFWFairy
Sep 1, 12, 11:58 am
Ya. Thats what i'm thinking. But I flew on ANA's 787, so I think I'll just need to be in IAH sometime before Jan.

ANA in coach was great. Very spacious quiet cabin. Not looking forward to 3 3 3 in Y.

i agree, there will probably not much fanfare being a non-inaugural flight. I'll wait

UA767400
Sep 1, 12, 1:18 pm
Shoot, no more window seats on the 4 November IAH-ORD flight :/

I got one of the last ones! :)

There is still E+ window seats! ;)

colpuck
Sep 1, 12, 1:29 pm
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Everyone is welcome on the iah-cle flight /do

rafatmit
Sep 1, 12, 2:08 pm
Do we know if CPUs will work on these flights? I don't see anything on the website to say they won't, but I wouldn't put it past the New United to create some sort of p.s.-esque exception for 787 flights.

usa18dca
Sep 1, 12, 2:09 pm
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Everyone is welcome on the iah-cle flight /do

I'll be organizing an impromptu flight / do for the November 5th SFO-IAH flight as I'll be on that one sometime soon...


Maybe we all could start a consolidated thread for Who's Who on What flight for the first planned flights of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner?

CDKing
Sep 1, 12, 2:39 pm
Do we know if CPUs will work on these flights? I don't see anything on the website to say they won't, but I wouldn't put it past the New United to create some sort of p.s.-esque exception for 787 flights.

I highly doubt it. They allow CPU on domestic flights on intl 777.

I'll be organizing an impromptu flight / do for the November 5th SFO-IAH flight as I'll be on that one sometime soon...


Maybe we all could start a consolidated thread for Who's Who on What flight for the first planned flights of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner?

Thread was started already

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/communitybuzz/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread.html

UA767400
Sep 1, 12, 3:09 pm
How does one go about requesting extra early boarding to take pictures?

Very good question.

UAInsider could you help? (I am press).

PVDtoDEL
Sep 1, 12, 3:48 pm
How does one go about requesting extra early boarding to take pictures?

Very good question.

UAInsider could you help? (I am press).

I've got the same question as well. (and I'm press too).

kiam
Sep 1, 12, 4:27 pm
I managed to book award seats on NRT-LAX-IAH in Jan on UA33 and UA1426, both are on 787-8 Dreamliner, believe both flights utilize exactly the same plane. I am having a hard time choosing perfect seats? Seatguru doesn't say enough, in my opinion. I am flexible for either window or aisle. Apologies if this question should have been posted on another thread but I see that 787 discussion is most active here. I am tempted to choose Row 5 but am afraid I will hear noise from economy (especially if there is a baby in row 16). Are 2A, 2B, and 2E the best or not really?

Koko
Sep 1, 12, 5:33 pm
I got seats on ORD-IAH 11/4 and return on 11/5. My wife does not understand but luckily a good friend is willing to be on early 787 flights! Plenty of upgrade space!

CDKing
Sep 1, 12, 6:25 pm
I managed to book award seats on NRT-LAX-IAH in Jan on UA33 and UA1426, both are on 787-8 Dreamliner, believe both flights utilize exactly the same plane. I am having a hard time choosing perfect seats? Seatguru doesn't say enough, in my opinion. I am flexible for either window or aisle. Apologies if this question should have been posted on another thread but I see that 787 discussion is most active here. I am tempted to choose Row 5 but am afraid I will hear noise from economy (especially if there is a baby in row 16). Are 2A, 2B, and 2E the best or not really?

At this point there have not been any revenue flights on the UA config so its hard to tell. i don't think you could go wrong with row 2. You will probably find better advice in November

Vunder31
Sep 2, 12, 2:30 am
Do we know if CPUs will work on these flights? I don't see anything on the website to say they won't, but I wouldn't put it past the New United to create some sort of p.s.-esque exception for 787 flights.

My reservation shows "No front cabin available" when I try to use a GPU for my SFO-IAH B787 flight. It should be noted that the next flight, IAH-DAL also shows "No front cabin available" even though it is operated by a CRJ-700, so this is hopefully just a short glitch rather than an indication of the BF seats being off-limits for GPU use on B787.
Both flights show R and RN available (>7).

smashr
Sep 2, 12, 8:46 am
So, looking at the online seat maps for the 787 on the .com, I noticed that they have explicitly excluded the seat width and pitch information. Perhaps an effort to not draw attention to the high density 9 abreast configuration in Y?

Seat guru lists Y as 18" wide, which I believe is incorrect - I recall reading it was closed to the 17" in domestic Boeing narrow bodies - can anyone confirm?

PHLstudent
Sep 2, 12, 9:03 am
My reservation shows "No front cabin available" when I try to use a GPU for my SFO-IAH B787 flight. It should be noted that the next flight, IAH-DAL also shows "No front cabin available" even though it is operated by a CRJ-700, so this is hopefully just a short glitch rather than an indication of the BF seats being off-limits for GPU use on B787.
Both flights show R and RN available (>7).

My flights said the same thing (from IAH-EWR) and it let me process the upgrade anyway and cleared immediately. Must just be a glitch, but does not stop the upgrade process from running

sidestep
Sep 2, 12, 10:09 am
I cant find the 787 flight ex CLE on the 10th, am i dense or has it not been loaded?

Should also add, i cant find the flight ex IAH to cle either

Edit: NEVERMIND, looking at wrong dates

Vunder31
Sep 2, 12, 10:25 am
My flights said the same thing (from IAH-EWR) and it let me process the upgrade anyway and cleared immediately. Must just be a glitch, but does not stop the upgrade process from running

The flight upgrade screen showed the expected availability today, so yesterday's error message was just a glitch.

84fiero
Sep 2, 12, 3:31 pm
So, looking at the online seat maps for the 787 on the .com, I noticed that they have explicitly excluded the seat width and pitch information. Perhaps an effort to not draw attention to the high density 9 abreast configuration in Y?

Seat guru lists Y as 18" wide, which I believe is incorrect - I recall reading it was closed to the 17" in domestic Boeing narrow bodies - can anyone confirm?

Wondering the same thing but haven't been able to find anything definitive, though I suspect it has to be much closer to 17 than the 18 SeatGuru claims. Also wondering about E- pitch.

However note that while UA doesn't state the pitch or width in their diagram, they helpfully still include the definition of "pitch":rolleyes:

UAL250
Sep 2, 12, 5:39 pm
Just booked IAD-IAH-IAD online. 787 on the way down (11/17) and 737 on the way back (11/18). There were nine seats left on the 787 flight for Y>F upgrades using tools. I got seat 2L within minutes of booking. Looking forward to this great plane!!!!!!!

LEONIDES
Sep 2, 12, 6:27 pm
I got one of the last ones! :)

There is still E+ window seats! ;)

Still plenty of availability for the 5 P.M. IAH to SFO run on the 4th. This includes the Eplus seating. The flight number is 1435. About 50% of the Eplus, and 40% of the F seats, are still available on that run.

EkekoBWI
Sep 2, 12, 8:27 pm
probably better off booking one way in Y and one way in F. I've already been in the same J seat on 777 so to me its not worth the extra miles to try out the same seat but different plane. I'm happy with coach for these short fligts

Thanks for the advice. Turns out, the scheduling doesn't work for my intended 787-inclusive IAD/IAH/PSP itin unless I wanted to add LAX and downgrade to a LAX/PSP prop...and pay 50k / PAX for mixed class (Y/J) o/w. That would be in the "too much for too little" bin. Ended up purchasing non-787 r/t itin that has me slumming in a CRJ. Oh, the humanity...

Will have to live vicariously through the other posters re:787...

SGJazz
Sep 6, 12, 9:29 am
Looking to fly on a Dreamliner in November. I've found IAH-EWR (with R space) so far.

Is there a complete listing of routes?

haddon90
Sep 6, 12, 10:19 am
looking for LAX-IAH and some of the dates i'm putting in has it booked into P. anyone else having this problem?

dkmatter
Sep 6, 12, 10:57 am
Found a way to work a EWR-IAH 787 leg into my schedule. Now I'm wondering where to sit. Usually I'm a 4E guy but I guess I'll get a window. Unclear if 1A or 4A is better.

UnitedFlyGuy
Sep 6, 12, 11:28 am
Lol. A seat is a seat. Especially if it's business first.

dkmatter
Sep 6, 12, 12:33 pm
Lol. A seat is a seat. Especially if it's business first.

Not sure about these new CO style seats but the bulkhead seats used to have nice wide foot rests. The others were actually kind of uncomfortable and hard to sit in much less lie down for tall people.

UA-NYC
Sep 6, 12, 1:09 pm
Not sure about these new CO style seats but the bulkhead seats used to have nice wide foot rests. The others were actually kind of uncomfortable and hard to sit in much less lie down for tall people.

They're not "new" by any means...same seats that have been out for 3-4 years. And probably around for another 10.

sidestep
Sep 17, 12, 10:12 am
anyone on the 787 EWR-IAH on NOV 10 (flight number 1261)?
hoping a window seat in the forward BF cabin opens up..

SFO 1K
Sep 17, 12, 11:59 am
No idea what impact this may have on the domestic 787 schedule, but folks who plan to fly it early in the schedule may want to take note: NTSB urges grounding for certain GEnx-powered 787 and 747-8s (http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-urges-grounding-for-certain-genx-powered-787-and-747-8s-376525)

LEONIDES
Sep 17, 12, 7:26 pm
Still plenty of availability for the 5 P.M. IAH to SFO run on the 4th. This includes the Eplus seating. The flight number is 1435. About 50% of the Eplus, and 40% of the F seats, are still available on that run.

I purchases my ticket for this flight today. (I got a discounted S-class fare on this route, for the same price as one of the flights on the 737s or 319s. Take that, Smisek.)

I will post a trip report here on November 5th. I honestly can't wait. I wonder if any of the media will be at IAH to interview the passengers...or if they will be at SFO. I expect that UA's publicity department will arrange something.

At least I won't have to squeeze my oversized rear-end into one of those A319s on the way back to SFO....

trekwars2000
Sep 17, 12, 8:27 pm
I purchases my ticket for this flight today. (I got a discounted S-class fare on this route, for the same price as one of the flights on the 737s or 319s. Take that, Smisek.)

I will post a trip report here on November 5th. I honestly can't wait. I wonder if any of the media will be at IAH to interview the passengers...or if they will be at SFO. I expect that UA's publicity department will arrange something.

At least I won't have to squeeze my oversized rear-end into one of those A319s on the way back to SFO....

Pretty sure you'd have more room in a 319 to squeeze into than the 787. After all the 319 was developed to have 6 seats across in coach and does, whereas the 787 was developed to have 8 seats across in coach and UA is putting in 9...

chinatraderjmr
Sep 17, 12, 8:46 pm
Pretty sure you'd have more room in a 319 to squeeze into than the 787. After all the 319 was developed to have 6 seats across in coach and does, whereas the 787 was developed to have 8 seats across in coach and UA is putting in 9...

I would put money against half these flights actually operating the 787. So much can happen between now & then. I would not count on being on the 787 regardless of what the schedule says

IAHMCI
Sep 22, 12, 8:05 am
It looks like the first 787 has been delivered. United.com is showing flight 6864, BFI - IAH, this morning with a 787 seat map.

jasonvr
Sep 22, 12, 9:42 am
It looks like the first 787 has been delivered. United.com is showing flight 6864, BFI - IAH, this morning with a 787 seat map.

Interesting. I wonder why there are 6 seats in Y occupied? I suppose a few people could be travelling on the ferry (not paying pax), but why not sit in BF?

sbm12
Sep 22, 12, 9:49 am
It looks like the first 787 has been delivered. United.com is showing flight 6864, BFI - IAH, this morning with a 787 seat map.No...it is the flight number for the delivery flight but it is not actually flying yet. Likely this coming week. If it were flying the "estimated" departure time would switch to actual.

Interesting. I wonder why there are 6 seats in Y occupied? I suppose a few people could be travelling on the ferry (not paying pax), but why not sit in BF?
Default blocked seats. :-:

jasonvr
Sep 22, 12, 9:53 am
Default blocked seats. :-:

Hmmmm, odd selection of default blocked seats. All E+.

But for future reference and posterity's sake, they are:
17BC
19EF
21JK

sbm12
Sep 22, 12, 11:42 am
Hmmmm, odd selection of default blocked seats. All E+.
It is a hunch, not a certainty, but I wouldn't be too surprised. Historically bulkhead (i.e. E+) were the defaults on narrow-body aircraft.

jasonvr
Sep 22, 12, 11:58 am
It is a hunch, not a certainty, but I wouldn't be too surprised. Historically bulkhead (i.e. E+) were the defaults on narrow-body aircraft.

I think your hunch is correct. I have 4 segments currently booked on 787's in December and on all 4 flights those seats are showing unavailable

jgsx
Sep 22, 12, 12:56 pm
First delivery ceremony is on 9/28.

PVDtoDEL
Sep 22, 12, 1:29 pm
Delivery not happening until the end of the month :(

Flyout is likely to happen next Saturday.

dmodemd
Sep 22, 12, 5:55 pm
Hmmmm, odd selection of default blocked seats. All E+.

But for future reference and posterity's sake, they are:
17BC
19EF
21JK

They are default blocked for disabled pax.

JamesLyle
Sep 22, 12, 6:30 pm
I'm interested to know the tail numbers for the new dreamliners. the one on unitedhub in the video is N20904. Will the tail numbers change when they are delivered to UA? I like to track them on flightaware.com

jasonvr
Sep 22, 12, 7:33 pm
I'm interested to know the tail numbers for the new dreamliners. the one on unitedhub in the video is N20904. Will the tail numbers change when they are delivered to UA? I like to track them on flightaware.com

See here
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/mainline-fleet-tracking

JOSECONLSCREW28
Sep 22, 12, 7:36 pm
I'm interested to know the tail numbers for the new dreamliners. the one on unitedhub in the video is N20904. Will the tail numbers change when they are delivered to UA? I like to track them on flightaware.com

Nope not at all. It's also rumored that all incoming aircraft regardless of what airline ordered it be it sCO or sUA will be an NXXXXX type of registration, rather then a NXXXUA kind.

trekwars2000
Sep 22, 12, 10:24 pm
Nope not at all. It's also rumored that all incoming aircraft regardless of what airline ordered it be it sCO or sUA will be an NXXXXX type of registration, rather then a NXXXUA kind.

Does anyone know what the first two numbers in the pmCO N number mean? They seem random to me...

SFO 1K
Sep 23, 12, 8:09 am
Nope not at all. It's also rumored that all incoming aircraft regardless of what airline ordered it be it sCO or sUA will be an NXXXXX type of registration, rather then a NXXXUA kind.

Of course, because an orderly numbering system with great thought going into how the numbers are assigned is a stupid idea. Sigh...

sbm12
Sep 23, 12, 8:17 am
Does anyone know what the first two numbers in the pmCO N number mean? They seem random to me...
Believe it or not, there are other people registering aircraft using the numbers. Getting a large block of consecutive numbers is not particularly easy and it costs some money (not much, but a bit) with no particular value to the company. Maybe there is some value in sating some OCD customers who think the tail numbers actually matter for some reason, but I'd bet that it would be hard to win that argument when it comes to budget review time.

In other words, they mean nothing and there's no real reason to believe they should.

Flying Machine
Sep 23, 12, 8:25 am
anyone on the 787 EWR-IAH on NOV 10 (flight number 1261)?
hoping a window seat in the forward BF cabin opens up..

I have a EWR-LAX that day. Perhaps SDC will be my friend.. and I will be able to route through IAH. Not sure but could try..

UA767400
Sep 23, 12, 11:42 am
The United 787 is operating UA 7708 from PAE-BFI. It will remain at BFI for a few days before heading to IAH.

PVDtoDEL
Sep 23, 12, 11:43 am
UA took delivery this morning.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

I'm trying to figure out why the aircraft is on its way to MWH...

colpuck
Sep 23, 12, 11:46 am
UA took delivery this morning.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

I'm trying to figure out why the aircraft is on its way to MWH...

That's a customer test flight to another boeing field. UA may have taken financial delivery, but not actual physical delivery yet.

uber1K_Flyer
Sep 23, 12, 11:47 am
I just tried to book a trip in March to Amsterdam - it looks like there is going to be a daily ORD-IAH-AMS flight on the 787. There was an upgrade available on March 8 - hope the plane sticks!

I think it says a lot that its a IAH-AMS instead of a ORD-AMS flight!

PVDtoDEL
Sep 23, 12, 11:49 am
That's a customer test flight to another boeing field. UA may have taken financial delivery, but not actual physical delivery yet.

If that was the case, the flight would have a BOE flight number, not a UAL flight number as above..

UA767400
Sep 23, 12, 12:25 pm
UA took delivery this morning.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

I'm trying to figure out why the aircraft is on its way to MWH...

That's a customer test flight to another boeing field. UA may have taken financial delivery, but not actual physical delivery yet.

That is correct.

PVDtoDEL
Sep 23, 12, 1:04 pm
That's a customer test flight to another boeing field. UA may have taken financial delivery, but not actual physical delivery yet.
Contractual delivery is contractual delivery...

Not sure what you mean by "financial delivery"

LASUA1K
Sep 23, 12, 1:15 pm
I just tried to book a trip in March to Amsterdam - it looks like there is going to be a daily ORD-IAH-AMS flight on the 787. There was an upgrade available on March 8 - hope the plane sticks!

I think it says a lot that its a IAH-AMS instead of a ORD-AMS flight!

I dont understand? What does it say? The 787's are CO based. Ord-Ams still has a daily 767.

sbm12
Sep 23, 12, 1:21 pm
I think it says a lot that its a IAH-AMS instead of a ORD-AMS flight!

It says that the aircraft are being operated by sCO crews and on routes where there is higher paid biz demand (lots of oil traffic on IAH-ORD) relative to coach demand.

jhanserd
Sep 23, 12, 10:46 pm
I was on a flight last week and heard from a FA that the first 24 of the 787's are pretty much going to the CO side of the company. She said since CO managment took over they pretty much plan to cater to their routes out of Houston with their legacy crews flying these jets initially. Has anyone else heard this?

FriendlySkies
Sep 23, 12, 10:48 pm
Pretty much:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1382443-787-domestic-schedule-routes.html

JOSECONLSCREW28
Sep 23, 12, 11:17 pm
I was on a flight last week and heard from a FA that the first 24 of the 787's are pretty much going to the CO side of the company. She said since CO managment took over they pretty much plan to cater to their routes out of Houston with their legacy crews flying these jets initially. Has anyone else heard this?

It is indeed true the first 787s coming online are the sCO ordered ones so those will only be flown by sCO pilots and FA's. IAH is also the primary maintenance base for the 787. The sUA ordered ones won't come online until 2016 or so.

gobluetwo
Sep 24, 12, 8:28 am
I need to connect through IAH to get to a work location, so looks like I'll be scheduling it that first week of November so I can get the 787 on the ORD-IAH segment. Can't wait!

jhanserd
Sep 24, 12, 10:12 am
Ahh makes that makes total sense. Thanks for the clarification

It is indeed true the first 787s coming online are the sCO ordered ones so those will only be flown by sCO pilots and FA's. IAH is also the primary maintenance base for the 787. The sUA ordered ones won't come online until 2016 or so.

CaptainMiles
Sep 24, 12, 11:05 am
Press release today on United Hub (https://hub.united.com/en-us/News/Company-Operations/Pages/united-takes-delivery-of-787.aspx)

United confirms first commercial flights for November 4. From the press release:
We plan to operate our inaugural 787 commercial flight from Houston to Chicago on November 4 at 7:25 a.m.

djmp
Sep 24, 12, 7:51 pm
6:50 PDT and it's back in the air http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

Moses Lake - Boeing Field

snowed
Sep 24, 12, 8:02 pm
Press release today on United Hub (https://hub.united.com/en-us/News/Company-Operations/Pages/united-takes-delivery-of-787.aspx)

United confirms first commercial flights for November 4. From the press release:

Wait I had read 11/4 were the first flights loaded but it could fly earlier. If so i really messed up by not booking already and will do so tonight.

Press release does say inaugural so i think it is safe to assume so and book.

UA767400
Sep 24, 12, 8:07 pm
Press release today on United Hub (https://hub.united.com/en-us/News/Company-Operations/Pages/united-takes-delivery-of-787.aspx)

United confirms first commercial flights for November 4. From the press release:

Wait I had read 11/4 were the first flights loaded but it could fly earlier. If so i really messed up by not booking already and will do so tonight.

You are correct that these flights were the first to be loaded in the system, and United did say in the schedule release that these were not the inaugurals. **However, United has decided that the inaugural 787 flight will be UA 1116 on 11/4.

snowed
Sep 24, 12, 8:19 pm
You are correct that these flights were the first to be loaded in the system, and United did say in the schedule release that these were not the inaugurals. **However, United has decided that the inaugural 787 flight will be UA 1116 on 11/4.

Wow not a single window seat left.

UA767400
Sep 24, 12, 8:30 pm
You are correct that these flights were the first to be loaded in the system, and United did say in the schedule release that these were not the inaugurals. **However, United has decided that the inaugural 787 flight will be UA 1116 on 11/4.

Wow not a single window seat left.

Which flight(s) are you going to fly on?

PVDtoDEL
Sep 24, 12, 8:42 pm
post your flights here!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/communitybuzz/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread-4.html#post19378405

alexphj
Sep 25, 12, 11:06 pm
I am thinking about taking that first commercial flight.

Any special ceremony on UA1116? Thanks.

snowed
Sep 26, 12, 12:29 pm
Which flight(s) are you going to fly on?

It depends...

As much as I'd rather fly SFO-IAH-SFO (757/787) the IAH-SFO is not the true inaugural flight. Does anyone know if only the first IAH-ORD flight will have goodies (pins, certs, etc..) that would commemorate the event?

I may take the red eye into IAH, fly IAH-ORD on the inaugural and then back home ORD-SFO.

Thoughts?

UA767400
Sep 26, 12, 5:06 pm
Which flight(s) are you going to fly on?

It depends...

As much as I'd rather fly SFO-IAH-SFO (757/787) the IAH-SFO is not the true inaugural flight. Does anyone know if only the first IAH-ORD flight will have goodies (pins, certs, etc..) that would commemorate the event?

I may take the red eye into IAH, fly IAH-ORD on the inaugural and then back home ORD-SFO.

Thoughts?

You should be on the inaugural! I really hope they will have goodies, and it would be cool to get a water cannon salute!

snowed
Sep 26, 12, 6:50 pm
You should be on the inaugural! I really hope they will have goodies, and it would be cool to get a water cannon salute!

You are so right. Just booked it, once it tickets will update the other thread with my seat locations.

Can't wait!

UA767400
Sep 26, 12, 8:57 pm
You should be on the inaugural! I really hope they will have goodies, and it would be cool to get a water cannon salute!

You are so right. Just booked it, once it tickets will update the other thread with my seat locations.

Can't wait!

Great! Welcome aboard!

snowed
Sep 27, 12, 12:03 am
Great! Welcome aboard!

See you there!

EWRFlyerAL
Sep 27, 12, 12:50 am
I'm not seeing the flight available for sale on UA.

CaptainMiles
Sep 27, 12, 3:01 am
i'm not seeing the flight available for sale on ua.

Indeed. F0 A0 Z0 P0 Y0 B0 M0 E0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0

Weatherboy
Sep 28, 12, 4:30 am
It looks like the IAH-ORD/ORD-IAH first flights of the 787 will be flown by the metal currently on test runs...and based on scheduling, I'd imagine that same metal will continue to fly the IAH-LAX/LAX-IAH run later that day. But are the SFO/EWR flights in jeopardy with the other 787s not there yet? According to the fleet tracking site, N26906 is due sometime in October. Is that sufficient time to get the scheduled 787 routes for 11/4 all up/running or is it becoming likely that the non IAH-ORD routes will see an equipment substitution?

UA767400
Sep 28, 12, 4:33 am
It looks like the IAH-ORD/ORD-IAH first flights of the 787 will be flown by the metal currently on test runs...and based on scheduling, I'd imagine that same metal will continue to fly the IAH-LAX/LAX-IAH run later that day. But are the SFO/EWR flights in jeopardy with the other 787s not there yet? According to the fleet tracking site, N26906 is due sometime in October. Is that sufficient time to get the scheduled 787 routes for 11/4 all up/running or is it becoming likely that the non IAH-ORD routes will see an equipment substitution?

It is sufficient time. The aircraft is almost close enough to begin flight testing. I have not heard a date, but I have heard it will arrive early October. The first aircraft will take the longer because the FAA has to certify United to operate the 787 from my understanding.

Weatherboy
Sep 28, 12, 4:44 am
Indeed. F0 A0 Z0 P0 Y0 B0 M0 E0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0

F0, A0, JN0, Z0, ZN0, P0, PN0, R0, RN0, IN0, I0, Y1, YN1, B1, M0, E0, U0, H0, HN0, Q0, V0, W0, S0, T0, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0

Although no window seats left.

Wonder if they'll oversell it...that's one flight I wouldn't want to take a DBC from.

sbm12
Sep 28, 12, 11:10 am
http://a.yfrog.com/img737/8797/bpofs.jpg

KBFI-KIAH delivery flight. :cool:

JOSECONLSCREW28
Sep 28, 12, 11:22 am
It's on it's way to IAH :)

7708/28SEP
P BFI/OUT 941A E00.19 ☨
P BFI/OFF 958A
P IAH/ETA 420P E05.00
D HDQ/FERRY FLIGHT ETA 420P

SKED BFI ORIG 1000A GTD **** SHIP 3904
IAH 920P TERM GTA ****

ncorman
Sep 28, 12, 11:37 am
Here is the tracking as well...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

SNAvWORLD
Sep 28, 12, 12:44 pm
IAH - LAX on November 4th!

Like three First Seats left, using mile to upgrade. Most likely wont get it. At least I got a window in E+.

dmodemd
Sep 28, 12, 12:51 pm
Here is the tracking as well...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

41,000 ft. Cool... is that typical cruise for that bird?

IAATM
Sep 28, 12, 1:44 pm
It's on it's way to IAH :)

7708/28SEP
P BFI/OUT 941A E00.19 ☨
P BFI/OFF 958A
P IAH/ETA 420P E05.00
D HDQ/FERRY FLIGHT ETA 420P

SKED BFI ORIG 1000A GTD **** SHIP 3904
IAH 920P TERM GTA ****

And it did a loop around DEN enroute!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

kale73
Sep 28, 12, 6:38 pm
It looks like the IAH-ORD/ORD-IAH first flights of the 787 will be flown by the metal currently on test runs.

Should one not, when referring to the 787, eschew the term "metal" in favor of "carbon fiber reinforced plastic"? :D

djmp
Sep 28, 12, 9:08 pm
Off to EWR Sunday morning at 9am...

TWA Fan 1
Sep 28, 12, 9:23 pm
Should one not, when referring to the 787, eschew the term "metal" in favor of "carbon fiber reinforced plastic"? :D

Ha ha...good one.

As in:

"will my *A privileges apply if I fly UA plastic only, or also on a code share?"
:D

41,000 ft. Cool... is that typical cruise for that bird?

Any standard commercial jet can cruise that high...

ito717
Sep 28, 12, 9:27 pm
And it did a loop around DEN enroute!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL7708

Nope, that's way south of DEN (even COS). The loop looks to be over the PUB VOR (Pueblo, CO).

Indelaware
Sep 28, 12, 9:35 pm
It looks like the first 787 has been delivered. United.com is showing flight 6864, BFI - IAH, this morning with a 787 seat map.

If that was the case, the flight would have a BOE flight number, not a UAL flight number as above..

I thought that delivery always took place at the buyer's facility; Boeing famously includes delivery in the price.

I'm also a bit surprised that it underwent less than 15 hours flight time before today's ferry. Or would the frame have some flight time outside the current registration number?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N20904/history

UAL250
Sep 28, 12, 9:36 pm
It was over PUB. It was to make sure it didn't get there too early for the media

ORDnHKG
Sep 28, 12, 9:52 pm
Any standard commercial jet can cruise that high...

If you are a regular channel 9 listener, FL410 is not uncommon.

I have heard from channel 9 once before a WN 73G at FL410, and I have flown a PMUA 757 cruising at FL410 as well.

It all depends on if the upper level winds (or severe turblence) are co-operating or not. There are times that I heard from channel 9 that all westbound flights can only use FL320 or below, anything from FL330 and above have moderate to severe turblence.

UnitedFlyGuy
Sep 28, 12, 10:31 pm
All eastbound (001-180) flights fly at odd altitudes. All westbound (181-360) fly at even altitudes.

LASUA1K
Sep 28, 12, 11:16 pm
WN mostly flys at 41K going to the west coast. Very very common.

zrs70
Oct 5, 12, 10:55 pm
Heads up. (And forgive me that this isn't in the general sched change forum - I thought because of the singularity of the date it deserves its own thread).

I'm on the Nov 4 787 IAH-LHR. Flight has been pushed from 3:37pm to 4:06pm. Seats have been released (though I hope that they are automatically reinstated by morning after the change in aligned). We are in F.

Others should check their Nov 4 787 flights as well.

UA767400
Oct 5, 12, 10:59 pm
Same with the 11/4 flight to ORD...united.com is telling me that "accommodation pending." What does that mean? I cannot see the seat map!?

Weatherboy
Oct 5, 12, 11:10 pm
Looks like some significant changes to the launch day schedule...with shifts upwards of 80 minutes.

I hope my seat assignments are preserved. And I hope they aren't going to pull a 787 equipment out of the schedule that day.

jjclancy
Oct 5, 12, 11:23 pm
And I hope they aren't going to pull a 787 equipment out of the schedule that day.

Always a risk.

Appreciate the heads-up, zrs70. My Dec 2 787 flight is renumbered (hence lost seat assignments) and slightly retimed, thankfully not sufficiently to bugger up the trip. The website always seems to confuse equipment on schedule changes, and until confirmed, it looked like it had been substituted with an A320. :eek:

jasonvr
Oct 6, 12, 12:30 am
My whole itinerary is now hosed. Was a MR that contained 6 segments (SNA-SFO-IAH-EWR and back), 4 of which were on 787s (already upgraded) in December. Now have a mythical 320 on one segment (should go back to a 787). A 767-400ER leg even though the 787 leg still exists at substantially the same time as it was before.

The worst is that the SFO-IAH leg has been pushed back an hour making it impossible to get back to SNA as I will miss the last flight from SFO. There is no other IAH-SFO flight that is early enough to make the last flight to SNA, so I'd have to push the EWR-IAH leg earlier meaning I give up the 787 on that leg as well :(

Where is the "shaking my fist at UA" emoticon?

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 1:09 am
I'm on the Nov 4 787 IAH-LHR.

Wow! First international flight. :D

zrs70
Oct 6, 12, 1:11 am
Wow! First international flight. :D

Oops! Thanks for catching that! IAH-LAX!!!

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 1:16 am
Oops! Thanks for catching that! IAH-LAX!!!

See you on board then.

hungryhippo
Oct 6, 12, 3:12 am
Hi All,

I will be in Houston somewhere around the 18th-22nd of December, then flying out to Los Angeles. It then hit me. This would be the perfect opportunity to fly United's new 787. On the United website, I entered in my destinations (IAH to LAX), however it is only offering me first class on the new 787 and I cannot for the life of me select the Economy seats. I would love to fly on the new plane but a 500-600 $ cost is beyond me. Is there any way to select the Economy Seats on United's 787 :confused: :confused: Also, when I click 'view seats' below the plane model, it is showing Economy as available and some seats have already been taken - but I can't choose Economy ! :mad: .

Thanks in advance for your help ! :D

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 4:11 am
That is because the First class fare at $601.30 is cheaper than the lowest coach fare (M class) for your one-way IAH-LAX, and united.com is offering you the lowest fare.

If you really want economy, go on united.com, select Advanced Search, and enter specific class of service M. You will get your economy seat for $676.30.

hungryhippo
Oct 6, 12, 4:13 am
Oh thanks! Haha, that is a bit strange first being cheaper than coach :/ oh well -.-

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 4:20 am
If you really want to fly the Dreamliner one-way IAH-LAX for cheap, try an open jaw with a throwaway return. For example:

12/19 IAH-LAX UA1430
1/16 LAX-COS UA6440

Total $293.10

Then, while in LAX your plans may change and you may never make it to COS. Just don't make a habit of this.

Legend717
Oct 6, 12, 6:21 am
For what it's worth, I'm on the Nov 5 IAH-LAX 787 flight, and it's also been rescheduled by roughly half an hour.
My F seat assignment is intact, though!

trust77
Oct 6, 12, 7:04 am
very disappointed by this change. i was scheduled to be on the IAH-EWR flight, arriving from HNL on UA 218, but the 787 departs to EWR when i arrivefrom HNL!

come on UA!

UA767400
Oct 6, 12, 7:22 am
very disappointed by this change. i was scheduled to be on the IAH-EWR flight, arriving from HNL on UA 218, but the 787 departs to EWR when i arrivefrom HNL!

come on UA!

You should call them. Can you route through SFO or LAX?

trust77
Oct 6, 12, 8:09 am
You should call them. Can you route through SFO or LAX?

nope can't do. i need to be in EWR on that specific day.
i'll catch the 787 on my return ewr-iah flight, then iah-ams in December. Disappointed that I have to wait six days later to try the 787. ;)

UA767400
Oct 6, 12, 8:43 am
You should call them. Can you route through SFO or LAX?

nope can't do. i need to be in EWR on that specific day.
i'll catch the 787 on my return ewr-iah flight, then iah-ams in December. Disappointed that I have to wait six days later to try the 787. ;)

I mean...can you fly HNL-SFO-IAH to be on the inaugural 787 flight to EWR?

JamesLyle
Oct 6, 12, 8:48 am
Heads up. (And forgive me that this isn't in the general sched change forum - I thought because of the singularity of the date it deserves its own thread).

I'm on the Nov 4 787 IAH-LHR. Flight has been pushed from 3:37pm to 4:06pm. Seats have been released (though I hope that they are automatically reinstated by morning after the change in aligned). We are in F.

Others should check their Nov 4 787 flights as well.

Mine changed too! Fortunately not too bad. SFO -IAH on 11/4, IAH-EWR on 11/5, EWR-IAH, IAH-SFO on 11/9

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 8:55 am
Mine changed too! Fortunately not too bad. SFO -IAH on 11/4, IAH-EWR on 11/5, EWR-IAH, IAH-SFO on 11/9

James, I added you to the meetup thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/communitybuzz/1383169-inaugural-early-787-flights-ft-meet-up-thread.html) (hope that's alright). Are you in F or Y?

UnitedFlyGuy
Oct 6, 12, 10:02 am
5 minute change on 11/4 IAH-ORD. Seat stayed the same.

SGJazz
Oct 6, 12, 12:31 pm
IAH-EWR 11/8

Changed, 39 minutes earlier, confirmed online and retained my seat. (upgraded RPU at booking about a month ago). ^

Connections all fine. ^

BTW, first time in IAH


-SG

goinggoinggone
Oct 6, 12, 12:54 pm
I am so disappointed. I just called and cancelled an entire itinerary this morning that I had booked SAN/SFO/IAH/ORD/IAH/SFO/SAN with the SFO/IAH/ORD and ORD/IAH/SFO segments in F on the 787. I received a notice of an equipment change to a 757 for the SFO/IAH segment on November 18th and to a 737 on the ORD/IAH segment on the 21st. I had used an RPU to upgrade the return segments and had confirmed F seats. They credited back the RPU and gave me a full refund. I am beginning to suspect that they were messing with my reservation because I booked, what seemed to me, an inexpensive ticket in F.

The worst part is that they are still showing those flights being serviced by the 787 in the res system and I pointed it out to the agent and she said that the customers will receive the notice of the equipment change after they book the ticket.

Not happy.

AirTravelLover
Oct 6, 12, 2:26 pm
I have been wondering why there is such a 787 schedule change. The reason seems to be that this bird needs at least 2 hours layover between two consecutive flights (totally my own speculation). Any FTers know exactly how many 787 aircrafts will be working on Nov. 4th?

CaptainMiles
Oct 6, 12, 2:43 pm
I have been wondering why there is such a 787 schedule change. The reason seems to be that this bird needs at least 2 hours layover between two consecutive flights (totally my own speculation). Any FTers know exactly how many 787 aircrafts will be working on Nov. 4th?

They can do the schedule with two aircraft.

Ship 1
IAH-ORD 07:20-09:51 UA1116
ORD-IAH 11:21-14:06 UA1510
IAH-LAX 15:37-17:18 UA1209
LAX-IAH 19:47-00:48 UA1694

Ship 2
IAH-EWR 07:30-11:49 UA1146
EWR-IAH 13:50-16:40 UA1602
IAH-SFO 18:40-20:50 UA1435
SFO-IAH 23:50-05:16 UA132

Then the two aircraft meet at IAH between 5:16 and 7:20, at which time they can go back to doing the same route as the previous day or switch routes.

Turnarounds are between 1h29m and 2h04m.

mi88ke
Oct 6, 12, 4:41 pm
Just notice SFO-IAH was changed to earlier departure, as well as flight #. The equipment was displayed as A320, and earn 0 miles. :eek:

Once confirmed the change, the equipment baced to 787, seat assignment was intact, and earn 150% PQM again.

jjclancy
Oct 6, 12, 6:37 pm
I received a notice of an equipment change to a 757 for the SFO/IAH segment on November 18th and to a 737 on the ORD/IAH segment on the 21st.

787 still operates the only redeye SFO-IAH on Nov 18 (or 17th).
787 still operates a midday flight ORD-IAH.

The equipment change notices are bogus and usually mess up the target equipment type on any schedule change or flight renumber.

they are still showing those flights being serviced by the 787 in the res system

Well yes, because they're still serviced by the 787. Not sure why you cancelled? :confused:

Weatherboy
Oct 6, 12, 6:41 pm
They can do the schedule with two aircraft.

Ship 1
IAH-ORD 07:20-09:51 UA1116
ORD-IAH 11:21-14:06 UA1510
IAH-LAX 15:37-17:18 UA1209
LAX-IAH 19:47-00:48 UA1694

Ship 2
IAH-EWR 07:30-11:49 UA1146
EWR-IAH 13:50-16:40 UA1602
IAH-SFO 18:40-20:50 UA1435
SFO-IAH 23:50-05:16 UA132

Then the two aircraft meet at IAH between 5:16 and 7:20, at which time they can go back to doing the same route as the previous day or switch routes.

Turnarounds are between 1h29m and 2h04m.

What's the drop-dead date for Ship#2 to get into UA's hands without impacting the EWR/SFO half of the 787 schedule? October 15? Or because everyone's been practicing with the existing 787, it can enter into service the moment they get it?

jasonvr
Oct 6, 12, 7:37 pm
Just notice SFO-IAH was changed to earlier departure, as well as flight #. The equipment was displayed as A320, and earn 0 miles. :eek:

Yep, had the same thing. Went from being slightly after midnight to slightly before.

PVDtoDEL
Oct 6, 12, 8:44 pm
What's the drop-dead date for Ship#2 to get into UA's hands without impacting the EWR/SFO half of the 787 schedule? October 15? Or because everyone's been practicing with the existing 787, it can enter into service the moment they get it?

Probably closer to October 25th... Between paperwork and maintenance stuff which needs to be done, a week to 10 days gets eaten up after delivery.

UA767400
Oct 7, 12, 7:31 am
They can do the schedule with two aircraft.

Ship 1
IAH-ORD 07:20-09:51 UA1116
ORD-IAH 11:21-14:06 UA1510
IAH-LAX 15:37-17:18 UA1209
LAX-IAH 19:47-00:48 UA1694

Ship 2
IAH-EWR 07:30-11:49 UA1146
EWR-IAH 13:50-16:40 UA1602
IAH-SFO 18:40-20:50 UA1435
SFO-IAH 23:50-05:16 UA132

Then the two aircraft meet at IAH between 5:16 and 7:20, at which time they can go back to doing the same route as the previous day or switch routes.

Turnarounds are between 1h29m and 2h04m.

What's the drop-dead date for Ship#2 to get into UA's hands without impacting the EWR/SFO half of the 787 schedule? October 15? Or because everyone's been practicing with the existing 787, it can enter into service the moment they get it?

Should be delivered around then.

Vunder31
Oct 7, 12, 1:36 pm
Just notice SFO-IAH was changed to earlier departure, as well as flight #. The equipment was displayed as A320, and earn 0 miles. :eek:

Once confirmed the change, the equipment baced to 787, seat assignment was intact, and earn 150% PQM again.

I just saw the "There has been a schedule change to your reservation" notification for my 787 SFO-IAH flight in December, and it now shows the flight being operated by an A319. Are you saying that if I accept the change, my reservation should show the 787 again?

On the other hand, the same itinerary shows that I have been upgraded to F class on my ERJ145 flight to DAL, so at least I have that to look forward to :D

cova
Oct 7, 12, 5:44 pm
They can do the schedule with two aircraft.

Ship 1
IAH-ORD 07:20-09:51 UA1116
ORD-IAH 11:21-14:06 UA1510
IAH-LAX 15:37-17:18 UA1209
LAX-IAH 19:47-00:48 UA1694

Ship 2
IAH-EWR 07:30-11:49 UA1146
EWR-IAH 13:50-16:40 UA1602
IAH-SFO 18:40-20:50 UA1435
SFO-IAH 23:50-05:16 UA132

Then the two aircraft meet at IAH between 5:16 and 7:20, at which time they can go back to doing the same route as the previous day or switch routes.

Turnarounds are between 1h29m and 2h04m.

Can anyone figure out where the 787 flies after it arrives in SFO on the morning of 11/14. There is no return 787. Another one does IAH-SFO on the 15th but in the late afternoon.

Also on 11/15 where is the aircraft that flies from ORD-IAH coming from?

That is:
UA53 IAH-SFO 8:46a - 11:00a on 11/14, where is the return?

UA1510 ORD-IAH 11:21a - 2:06p on 11/15, where is the inbound coming from?

jjclancy
Oct 7, 12, 8:14 pm
Are you saying that if I accept the change, my reservation should show the 787 again?


Look at the schedule (ie, walk through booking a new flight) and see what the equipment actually is for the proposed times of your schedule change.

Vunder31
Oct 7, 12, 8:28 pm
Look at the schedule (ie, walk through booking a new flight) and see what the equipment actually is for the proposed times of your schedule change.

Thanks.
The flight is still on a 787, so I'm good.
The only "bad" thing is that my IAH-DAL flight changed back to a CRJ700, so I lost the chance to find out what F class on an ERJ145 would be like :D

PVDtoDEL
Oct 7, 12, 8:40 pm
Thanks.
The flight is still on a 787, so I'm good.
The only "bad" thing is that my IAH-DAL flight changed back to a CRJ700, so I lost the chance to find out what F class on an ERJ145 would be like :D

Ask for downgrade compensation @:-)

sbm12
Oct 7, 12, 9:02 pm
very disappointed by this change. i was scheduled to be on the IAH-EWR flight, arriving from HNL on UA 218, but the 787 departs to EWR when i arrivefrom HNL!
Same flights booked. Same schedule change. Same frustration. :(

cactus47
Oct 7, 12, 9:32 pm
I originally booked flight 1024 EWR-IAH (on the 787), connecting to UA 1707 IAH-PHX (737). The 787 segment changed times by a few minutes (no problem), but also changed flight numbers to 1707 -- the same as my next segment! Will this now be treated as a direct flight so I'll only earn the EWR-PHX miles and one segment, or I will get the EWR-IAH, IAH-PHX miles and two segments? I obviously never book direct-with-stop itineraries, but this one changed on me! To the extent it matters, I'll be crediting the flights to US.

jjclancy
Oct 7, 12, 10:08 pm
Will this now be treated as a direct flight so I'll only earn the EWR-PHX miles and one segment?

The eticket probably still has two coupons on it, so it would be surprising if they weren't treated as separate flights for all purposes (upgrades, FF crediting even to partners). You should be able to tell if they're listed separately in the reservation, or if they are shown as a single flight "with 1 stop in IAH".



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