Star Alliance - *A lounge access with spouse + dependents




LagunaBeach
Aug 16, 12, 12:35 pm
I know that at the Lufthansa lounges you are only allowed 2 guests, but not spouse and dependents. I was wondering if the no spouse and dependents rule applies to *A lounges when you are travelling on a UA flight and there is no UA Club, such as at CDG?

Thanks.


Jorgen
Aug 16, 12, 12:40 pm
What are "dependents"? If you mean children, just say children.

Getting extra children into lounges depends on their age, the mood of the lounge dragon, and how good-looking your children are. If you have a choice of lounge dragons to approach I suggest a female one in her late thirties. :D

Flexible Flyer
Aug 16, 12, 1:47 pm
I know that at the Lufthansa lounges you are only allowed 2 guests, but not spouse and dependents. I was wondering if the no spouse and dependents rule applies to *A lounges when you are travelling on a UA flight and there is no UA Club, such as at CDG?

Thanks.
Quick question. Which lounge access credentials allow 2 guests? A Star Gold card allows you one guest.
Has the UA Club at CDG closed?


LagunaBeach
Aug 16, 12, 2:44 pm
Quick question. Which lounge access credentials allow 2 guests? A Star Gold card allows you one guest.
Has the UA Club at CDG closed?

Sorry. It is one guest. Yes, I was at CDG yesterday and they said the United Club closed a few months ago.

I guess I was surprised that locations that used to a have a UA club (LHR, CDG) wouldn't allow a family of 4 travelling on a UA flight. We were OK as due to the status matching, my wife is also a plat.

KVS
Aug 16, 12, 7:55 pm
I know that at the Lufthansa lounges you are only allowed 2 guests, but not spouse and dependents. I was wondering if the no spouse and dependents rule applies to *A lounges when you are travelling on a UA flight and there is no UA Club, such as at CDG?
*A Lounge access rules provide for 1 guest + unlimited number of infants (under 2 years old).

Some airlines allow additional guests for their own Elite FFP members visiting their own lounges (e.g. spouse + dependent children), however this is not a *A benefit.

oliver2002
Aug 17, 12, 7:26 am
*A lounge rules are clear: *G gets one guest. Most *A carriers make no exception, and LH is pretty strict. We had one happy member post this about LH @FRA: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1285634-i-know-im-wrong-but-rant-about-fra-lounge-frau-long-rant-but-worth.html

I used to be able to enter the ARN lounge operated by SAS with kids as *G, but that benefit has gone too. Luckily LH still allows the entire immediate family as guests for the own gold elites, so I'm safe for now.

LagunaBeach
Aug 17, 12, 8:56 am
*A lounge rules are clear: *G gets one guest. Most *A carriers make no exception, and LH is pretty strict. We had one happy member post this about LH @FRA: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1285634-i-know-im-wrong-but-rant-about-fra-lounge-frau-long-rant-but-worth.html

I used to be able to enter the ARN lounge operated by SAS with kids as *G, but that benefit has gone too. Luckily LH still allows the entire immediate family as guests for the own gold elites, so I'm safe for now.

Curious why LH has such a family "unfriendly" policy for it's fellow *A elite members, but then waives the policy for it's own elites?:td:

cheltzel
Aug 17, 12, 10:24 am
Curious why LH has such a family "unfriendly" policy for it's fellow *A elite members, but then waives the policy for it's own elites?:td:

LH isn't the only airline that has a lounge access policy that is more beneficial to their own members.

If you are a United Club card holder, you can bring in your entire family (spouse + any number of minor children) into a United Club. Not specifically a *Gold equivalent, but similar to LH's policy.

dud
Aug 17, 12, 4:16 pm
I have never been denied entry when bringing in my wife and two children as guests as a *G - although every so often I do get reminded that officially I am only allowed 1 guest, but that I can come in this time. Most recently I have been is NZ, US, UA and LH lounges and my children are now 11 and 9 so a long time since they have been infants.

RTW1
Aug 18, 12, 3:50 am
I would welcome it if they applied the rules.... the lounges are normally crowded enough without granting whole families access.

LAX
Aug 18, 12, 11:01 pm
I have never been denied entry when bringing in my wife and two children as guests as a *G - although every so often I do get reminded that officially I am only allowed 1 guest, but that I can come in this time. Most recently I have been is NZ, US, UA and LH lounges and my children are now 11 and 9 so a long time since they have been infants.

Wow! I never tried even though I have only 1 child as I figure they are probably pretty strict having read all those horror stories even for people with legitimate access.

LAX

canadatosiberia
Aug 19, 12, 6:23 pm
Curious why LH has such a family "unfriendly" policy for it's fellow *A elite members, but then waives the policy for it's own elites?:td:

AC has the same policy. It rewards your own elites while holding to the *A policy. There are other perks that airlines give to their own elites but not to *G members. In the case of UA, they go the other way with AC *G getting access to lounges, but the UA equivalent not... I think

Thaikwai
Aug 22, 12, 4:24 pm
I'm TG *P and have never been refused access with my wife and two sons (13 & 9) but I know that officially the 13 year old should be treated as an adult and be denied access....or my wife...one or the other.

I am allowed to use the F lounge even when travelling in J/C/Y but I only ask for the Business lounge when I travel with the family.....best not to push my luck!

janehoya
Aug 22, 12, 8:28 pm
*A lounge rules are clear: *G gets one guest. Most *A carriers make no exception, and LH is pretty strict.

Having read FT I knew I wasn't allowed to enter the Senator lounge in FRA with my UA *G husband and our son when we were there in July. I went to the Business Lounge while they went to the Senator Lounge. When I returned to meet them I spoke to the lady in charge of the lounge and asked about if any passengers ever give them a hard time for their policy. She stated that plenty of times passengers ("especially Americans") get irate and that the situation isn't helped by the fact that some agents are "nicer" than she is (again, her words not mine) and do let families in when they shouldn't. She hears all the time, "I was allowed to do this previously. Why aren't you letting me in with my family?"

Anyway, that's just one experience, and YMMV.

diburning
Aug 22, 12, 11:02 pm
I'm sure they think that all Americans have that holier-than-thou attitude due to a few bad apples.

Are you a person? Yes
Is your family member a person? Yes
Is this person with no status sitting outside a person? Yes

Then why should the airline treat your relative, who has as much status as the person sitting outside, any differently?

Us Americans are too used to being spoiled that we act like we're entitled to everything!

oliver2002
Aug 23, 12, 2:41 am
Sadly many airlines reward the DYKWIA attitude of some elites and bend the rules.

In Germany we have the saying 'Wie man in den Wald hineinruft, so schallt es heraus'
http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wie_man_in_den_Wald_hineinruft,_so_schallt_es_hera us

I've always followed that principle and been rewarded with op-ups and various other niceties the last 10-12 years. If I get told off, I move on. If I get told off for things I'm entitled to I can get nasty. Doesn't happen very often though.

mre5765
Aug 23, 12, 8:29 am
In 2009 in MUC as a *G they would not let me guest my wife, son (15) and daughter (18). As my wife was an RCC member, she was admitted to the business lounge with one guest, and I was admitted to the business lounge with one guest.


Having read FT I knew I wasn't allowed to enter the Senator lounge in FRA with my UA *G husband and our son when we were there in July. I went to the Business Lounge while they went to the Senator Lounge.
Why didn't all three of you use the business lounge?

janehoya
Aug 23, 12, 9:21 am
Why didn't all three of you use the business lounge?

Because I had read on other threads that the Senator Lounge is less crowded and has more food offerings available than the Business Lounge, and in comparing lounge experiences with my husband, it turns out that threads were correct on both counts.



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