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This zone is populated by helpful, knowledgeable and patient Flyertalkers who will aim to bring you up to speed on this programme and help you to help yourself. The notion of flame-free zones does not even arise, as we are all that nice round here.

Do take a look at the various FAQs at the top of the forum before posting - they will answer most questions, or assist you to find the answer yourself, or generate a better, more appropriate question. No question is too stupid (ok, honestly, some are, but hey, what you post is a reflection on you, not on us! :D) so don't be afraid to ask. Everyone here* was an A3 newbie just a few months ago...

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Hey guys, I want to know... if after receiving the Blue card, I will need to gain 16 000 miles more within one year to be Gold from the day of upgrading to Blue. What if the deadline for being Gold passes and I can't still gain 16 000 miles? Does it count if I will gain 16 000 more miles in the second year?

thk u

Yes, that is the current understanding. From what we know at this point is that the 16k miles must be collected in a consecutive year, but it doesn't need to be connected to your first year.

We think from the program rules that status miles will be deleted from your account when then become a year old, so you should be able to see where you are from your online account statement. However, this is a new program, so no one really knows and some of the rules are stated in confusing ways.

Hi folks I tried to wade through the FAQs and didn't see my issues addressed directly so I apologize in advance if these issues were covered after all

1. At a regional airport served by skywest as UAL express (RDM) I had the gate agent reject my A3 *S card twice, once by sliding it and once by typing it in... however a week later at a mainline airport (PDX) it was accepted. What are the chances this was an actual issue vs. agent incompetence? This also segues into my second ques. which is the real problem

2. I earned some 9k miles to my A3 acct without any hitch and with all segments crediting either automatically or through the request form... however since then none of my segments have credited either way (and submitting the same info several times using the form). I even MAILED my fricken boarding pass copies (along with a copy of my Blue card) to Greece months ago, still nothing

Many of these prior segments were the same route (PDX-RDM) in both directions and in different fare buckets, and all earned the same miles consistently. However one of the three uncredited legs was also a PDX-RDM segment.

(some inside baseball: due to it being a combined multi-day UAL/US Airways itinerary, and flying right during the notorious UAL/Continental computer switchover snafu, it took 2 PDX gate agents about an hour to issue me a BP for this leg, after repeatedly being rejected by the computer system- and although I got my free bag, the BP didn't have my A3 number on it, and I was running late at that point so i didn't whine, figured the request form would work as it has in the past)

So one question is, what are the chances that somehow, always using the same TA, I ended up in a fare bucket that A3 won't credit for this one leg? Is there any way to look this up without going through A3? Or somehow the leg is not in the *A system at all even though I flew it? It looked like the agents had to work VERY HARD to figure out a way to print my BP even though they were easily able to verify I was ticketed... and the BP looked a little different than most (it had less info on it for sure)- was it some kind of general-purpose BP that "doesn't count" in the real world?

My other question is more general... what do I do now? I kinda thought that mailing the BP's in would solve the situation but it hasn't... is there any chance this is related to the economic collapse in Greece right now, and my letter just got lost in the mail or the fires?

Finally- what do people think the best was to contact A3 customer service is, as an english-speaker in the USA? I was hoping to avoid a long distance telephone call to Europe obviously, but I have received no response using the website contact form, so the phone call is looking inevitable at this point. Should I go with the UK line or the Greek line?

Any advice or constructive criticism is much appreciated (also i will try to answer your questions if you have any)

Just to ask -when did everything happen?
It had taken me over 3 weeks for retro-claiming miles to appear in my account, but i'd assume more than 3 mths had past. I've also read somewhere here it can take up to 2 mths for miles to appear.

I'd assume you have to ask ur TA to chwck what fare basis ur flights were. or you can guess by seeing if the fares that its miles didnt go thru were cheaper than the rest.

...is there any chance this is related to the economic collapse in Greece right now, and my letter just got lost in the mail or the fires?...Do you blame the fires in Greece or in the States? ;)

Finally- what do people think the best was to contact A3 customer service is, as an english-speaker in the USA? I was hoping to avoid a long distance telephone call to Europe obviously, but I have received no response using the website contact form, so the phone call is looking inevitable at this point. Should I go with the UK line or the Greek line?

I don't think you'll be able to call the UK number from the US, or it will cost you something crazy, and anyway I think it just redirects to the Greek number. Get a phone card or something that will let you call Greece for 1-2c/min.

Do you blame the fires in Greece or in the States? ;)

Probably a bit of both , I heard A3 are not accepting smoke damaged BPs anymore . ;):D Oh you couldnt write it if you tried..... :rolleyes:

I don't think you'll be able to call the UK number from the US, or it will cost you something crazy, and anyway I think it just redirects to the Greek number. Get a phone card or something that will let you call Greece for 1-2c/min.

Try a VoIP system - like Skype for cheap long distance calls.

1. Plan to achieve *G is:

LX S LHR-ZRH-HKG = 500 + 5788 (this is how many miles UA credited for this flight in 2008)
LX W HKG-ZRH-GVA-LHR = 5788 + 500 + 500
LX S LHR-ZRH-HKG = 500 + 5788
Total = 19364

Am I correct in applying the 500 minimum miles to each flight? And I assume that if the ZRH-GVA leg is operated by "Swiss European" then it still counts, as e.g. LH booking classes are different for domestics etc.

2. On the other threads here, it seems like LX flights can take up to a week to credit for some people, and then it takes a month or so for the *G card to arrive.

Can I make use of the *G status before getting the card? I registered with M&B using my Hong Kong address, so I should get it before I return to London the second time. However, I may have more flights on *A before returning to London, and obviously want to use the status if I can. I will credit everything to A3, so can the other airline somehow see my A3*G status without me actually showing the card? Hopefully my *S card would have arrived by then, if it helps.

3. There is a "news item" on the M&B website: "In order for you to have your valuable miles credited to your account, it is necessary that the name associated with your Miles&Bonus membership card matches the one on your flight ticket." Perhaps this is why some people have had trouble getting their miles credited. I did not add my middle name when registering, but always add it when booking flights. Should I get it added to my M&B account?

4. Maybe I should ask this on the LX forum, but I found the flights I want on ITA and they aren't available on the LX website. Would calling the London ticket office help, or any obscure online travel agents? Not available on Expedia.

To calculate mileage credit in the A3 FF program, you absolutely must look at the Aegean website. The number of miles that UA gave you for the same flights and same fare class is irrelevant.

To calculate mileage credit in the A3 FF program, you absolutely must look at the Aegean website. The number of miles that UA gave you for the same flights and same fare class is irrelevant.

I meant that is the distance. Aegean website doesn't tell you distances as far as I can see. S class earns 100%.

1. Plan to achieve *G is:

LX S LHR-ZRH-HKG = 500 + 5788 (this is how many miles UA credited for this flight in 2008)
LX W HKG-ZRH-GVA-LHR = 5788 + 500 + 500
LX S LHR-ZRH-HKG = 500 + 5788
Total = 19364

Am I correct in applying the 500 minimum miles to each flight? And I assume that if the ZRH-GVA leg is operated by "Swiss European" then it still counts, as e.g. LH booking classes are different for domestics etc.

Only A3 rules apply, both for booking class and number of miles between airports. Having said that, there should not be a big difference between what different programs award for the same airport pairs. (Great Circle Mapper indicates 5776 miles for ZRH-HKG.)

2. On the other threads here, it seems like LX flights can take up to a week to credit for some people, and then it takes a month or so for the *G card to arrive.

Can I make use of the *G status before getting the card? I registered with M&B using my Hong Kong address, so I should get it before I return to London the second time. However, I may have more flights on *A before returning to London, and obviously want to use the status if I can. I will credit everything to A3, so can the other airline somehow see my A3*G status without me actually showing the card? Hopefully my *S card would have arrived by then, if it helps.

You should be able to as long as *G is printed on your boarding pass (consider removing and then putting back in your M&B number from any existing flights after you hit *G or just do it at check in), and if you're carrying a website printout that indicates your *G status. Note that it can apparently take about a week for your status to propagate through *A systems, and that some lounge dragons (reportedly LH in particular) do require that you be holding an actual physical *G card, even if this seems to be contrary to the *A rules.

3. There is a "news item" on the M&B website: "In order for you to have your valuable miles credited to your account, it is necessary that the name associated with your Miles&Bonus membership card matches the one on your flight ticket." Perhaps this is why some people have had trouble getting their miles credited. I did not add my middle name when registering, but always add it when booking flights. Should I get it added to my M&B account?

Probably a good idea, although I am in the same situation and never had a problem that wasn't easily solved by retro crediting.

4. Maybe I should ask this on the LX forum, but I found the flights I want on ITA and they aren't available on the LX website. Would calling the London ticket office help, or any obscure online travel agents? Not available on Expedia.

I haven't tried this, would be interested to hear the answer as well.

...Everyone here was an A3 newbie just a few months ago...


KLouis and a few others may not fit into that description :)

Anyway, happy to see the new sticky, thanks!

KLouis and a few others may not fit into that description :)...
You make me feel really old! :D

I meant that is the distance. Aegean website doesn't tell you distances as far as I can see. S class earns 100%.
Even so, different carriers can define the distances between city-pairs differently, but it's usually within a few miles of the distance from the great circle mapper. There shouldn't be major differences.

I haven't tried this, would be interested to hear the answer as well.

Oh well, I just went to a travel agent who charged me £3 over the ITA price + cc fee. I think I will just book all my *A flights with my first name only, to avoid any problems with spaces and hyphens.

Anyway, I now have a personal stake in the Greek economy.. at least until I can get *G elsewhere :p

update on my mileage issue

So turns out you will get a MUCH faster response from the A3 email desk if you also write a complaint to the *A email desk saying A3 isn't crediting your miles (he he)... *A will also want your PNRs and BPs (basically they ask for more info than A3 does)

However of course there is a twist

the new line is that A3 couldn't verify with UA that I was on 2 flights that I provided the BPs for... so they are having to use some alternate system and it will take longer to credit (if at all)

I am now more confident (oddly) in getting these flights credited, because it doesn't seem to be a fare bucket issue like I was originally concerned. Also considering one of the uncredited segments was the first leg of a ticket where the second flight has already credited, I feel like somewhere on down the line, smarter heads will prevail... ie: the flight I checked in on, at my origin airport, didn't credit yet (because of this UA verification issue) but my connecting flight, later that day, with no check-in paper trail, DID credit (weird I agree)

So long story short, don't be afraid to whine to *A if you are having A3 mileage issues

However I now have a new newbie question-

Would A3 have status matched my CO/UA silver at the end of 2011? I am reading about all these BMI status matches and getting jealous, because I hit A3 silver the hard way, and did pay bag fees once or twice (although generally I am on RJs and can gate check no biggie)... I thought I read somewhere that *A didn't allow status-matches (guess I was wrong about that lol)... so are these BMI status matches a one-off deal or will A3 match any *A status? And how much of a pain would it have been?

Would A3 have status matched my CO/UA silver at the end of 2011? I am reading about all these BMI status matches and getting jealous, because I hit A3 silver the hard way, and did pay bag fees once or twice (although generally I am on RJs and can gate check no biggie)... I thought I read somewhere that *A didn't allow status-matches (guess I was wrong about that lol)... so are these BMI status matches a one-off deal or will A3 match any *A status? And how much of a pain would it have been?

A3 would not match your CO/UA status as far as I am aware. Generally speaking, *A airlines will not do status matches to other *A airlines. The exception here is when airlines go bust or leave the alliance, which is why there was a rash of BMI matches earlier this year.

...because I hit A3 silver the hard way...Well,the "hard way", let's not exaggerate!

Would A3 have status matched my CO/UA silver at the end of 2011? I am reading about all these BMI status matches and getting jealous, because I hit A3 silver the hard way,

Firstly no they were not matching at that time .

Secondly to get Silver on A3 its hardly difficult . Had you said Gold the hard way then I might have conceded . ;)

btw- when I wrote about Greek fires in my earlier post- i guess I figured it was a more polite way to say "molotov cocktails"... but you're right, living in eastern oregon, if my BPs had been delayed by wildfires it probably would have happened on my end

Hi all,

Long time FlyerTalk reader, but first time poster.

I was recently informed about the opportunity to earn 20K miles for *G on Aegean and I think I'm going to take this route and starting earning miles on this airline.

I've read through the posts about *G, but am a bit confused. Once I earn *G on Aegean, how often do I need to fly to maintain the *G status? Do I need to earn 20K yearly?

Thanks in advance for all your responses.

Once I earn *G on Aegean, how often do I need to fly to maintain the *G status? Do I need to earn 20K yearly?

The Terms and Conditions mention nothing about the possibility of expiration of Gold status, what seems to imply that it does not expire. However, as the program is pretty new, there is no real life experience yet with this.

At least, you need to keep your account active, and you do this by crediting one qualifying flight every 36 months.

The Terms and Conditions mention nothing about the possibility of expiration of Gold status, what seems to imply that it does not expire. However, as the program is pretty new, there is no real life experience yet with this.

At least, you need to keep your account active, and you do this by crediting one qualifying flight every 36 months.


Thanks!

When will A3 post their flights for summer of 2013. I know that it is early. Most airlines in US post flights 330 days out. Obviously, Aegean does not. But how does Aegean post their flights?

When will A3 post their flights for summer of 2013. I know that it is early. Most airlines in US post flights 330 days out. Obviously, Aegean does not. But how does Aegean post their flights?

Should be available soon . There are quite a few timetable changes for Summer 2013 apparantly.

Thanks.

Is there a *A chart for USING M&B miles? And if I use them, I don't lose status, right?

Is there a *A chart for USING M&B miles? And if I use them, I don't lose status, right?

Absolutely, look here for using M&B miles on *A (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/spend-miles/). Scroll down a bit to find the chart to redeem on *A.

Using miles on rewards will not help you keep status. Once you hold status you need to credit at least 1 miles-earning-flight every 36 months. This will keep your account active (prevent it from being deleted).

Absolutely, look here for using M&B miles on *A (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/spend-miles/). Scroll down a bit to find the chart to redeem on *A.

Using miles on rewards will not help you keep status. Once you hold status you need to credit at least 1 miles-earning-flight every 36 months. This will keep your account active (prevent it from being deleted).

Awesome. So if I get to the 25k miles needed for a North American *A flight, then I use the miles that I earned to get *G and I go down to zero, I'd still be gold, right?

Yes. When you fly, you earn both award miles and tier miles. To get an award you pay with your award miles and they can go all the way to zero. That does not affect your tier (= status ) in anyway.

Hello to all from the A3 forum, this would be my first post here :)

With the latest devaluations of the LH programme, I'm seriously considering temporarily switching to A3 for status earning, especially since I have an upcoming return flight from Europe to New Zealand in Y+ all the way, which would enable me to easily reach *G on A3. However, I've been slightly deterred by the somewhat complicated process required afterwards if I want to use my A3 *G benefits, yet continue with crediting my flights to LH. I really don't feel like calling up LH's customer service for every flight, or explaining the situation at check-in and to lounge dragons every single time, just to make sure that FQTV and FQTS are kept separate.

My question is as follows. Since I do most of my travelling on deeply discounted economy on LH, which earns zero miles on A3, do you think it would be a viable solution to provide my A3 number in all reservations, to ensure status recognition, and then retro-credit to LH after the flights have been taken? Since there are no miles to be earned on A3, there are no miles to require removal before crediting to LH, yet I'm concerned if it would be a problem since the original boarding passes and PNR would state my A3 status/number, not my LH one.

Thanks for any input.

Is there a *A chart for USING M&B miles? And if I use them, I don't lose status, right?
Yes, on the A3 website. Look for the section on their FF program, then look for something like using/spending miles. There are charts for A3 flights per segment and then charts for *A partner flights. Be sure to read the fine print.

You use redeemable miles. This doesn't affect the status miles you have. (Different airlines use different terms for these concepts, but AFAIK all make this distinction.)

Hello to all from the A3 forum, this would be my first post here :)

With the latest devaluations of the LH programme, I'm seriously considering temporarily switching to A3 for status earning, especially since I have an upcoming return flight from Europe to New Zealand in Y+ all the way, which would enable me to easily reach *G on A3. However, I've been slightly deterred by the somewhat complicated process required afterwards if I want to use my A3 *G benefits, yet continue with crediting my flights to LH. I really don't feel like calling up LH's customer service for every flight, or explaining the situation at check-in and to lounge dragons every single time, just to make sure that FQTV and FQTS are kept separate.

My question is as follows. Since I do most of my travelling on deeply discounted economy on LH, which earns zero miles on A3, do you think it would be a viable solution to provide my A3 number in all reservations, to ensure status recognition, and then retro-credit to LH after the flights have been taken? Since there are no miles to be earned on A3, there are no miles to require removal before crediting to LH, yet I'm concerned if it would be a problem since the original boarding passes and PNR would state my A3 status/number, not my LH one.

Thanks for any input.
Some have reported problems with this, even though no miles were posted as a non earning fare class was used.

...Since there are no miles to be earned on A3, there are no miles to require removal before crediting to LH...


IMO, even if there is no miles to be earned, the flight will be "credited" to A3 in all systems. My guess is then that LH will not be able to easily accept a retro-credit. LH cannot know if A3 actually credited any miles or not to your M&B-account, they can only see that the flight was registered with A3 FF#. Usually in this situation the retro credit program wants to see some declaration from the other program that miles have been deducted before proceeding.

It is under debate, but I would also assume that operating carrier have paid some kind of money for miles to the FF-program. I don't think one can make the assumption that the sum is zero just because A3 decided to credit the M&B account with zero miles. And if there is money involved LH certainly won't retro credit without getting their money back. And again, would a common M&M-staffer know which *A program credits certain fare classes? I'd say their basic routine is - "before processing a retro credit, no FF# may be present on ticket".

So I forsee some trouble with this method, but YMMV. Maybe you need to try it out to know if it works.


As for LH-bookings and FF# there are several reports of "stickiness" - that is that what ever FF# you entered into a LH booking at some point, will stick to it forever. So swapping numbers (which wasn't an option for you anyway) has many reports of failure.

Thanks for the replies so far.

As for LH-bookings and FF# there are several reports of "stickiness" - that is that what ever FF# you entered into a LH booking at some point, will stick to it forever.

So basically, I might try the inverted approach - always provide my LH number during reservations, and then present my A3 card at check-in for BP and lounge purposes, with the miles still posting to my LH FF account (due to the "stuck" number). What do you think?

That will probably work just as you expect.

Does anyone know if A3 has a RTW award ticket?

Star alliance rules apply. Look in the Star alliance forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance-413/) for details.

I'm assuming the answer is no, but I'd rather ask and be sure than find out, too late, otherwise! I took a USair flight and picked up just over 2000 miles in early August. However, I just today signed up for Aegean with the bonus, and am wondering if I can retroactively say "Never mind, I want to credit those US miles to Aegean instead", and get Star Alliance silver.
Thanks!

Is it a way to contact A3 M&B department by phone? I couldn't find any contact. I just found out that my birth date was entered incorrectly. I sent them a message through online form and an email to M&B department but neither received a response nor my birth date was corrected in my account. It's more than a week now. I have already deposited miles to this account (should it work with a wrong birth date?) and I have a coming flight that I want to deposit to my account. But I am hesitant because I am concerned that having *G card and status with a wrong birth date may cause some unpredictable issues.

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I doubt that the birth date will affect crediting miles. Name needs to be exactly the same as on BP, but otherwise you should be OK.

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I doubt that the birth date will affect crediting miles. Name needs to be exactly the same as on BP, but otherwise you should be OK.

Well, I already contacted this number and selected option 2 which should connect to M&B department. But the CSR who answered the call, said that it was reservation department and the only way to contact M&B is through email or online form! Did you ever talk with a M&B CSR?

This link
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/news-offers/latest-news/news-page/?nid=52&f=2012
from A3 website says it is Aegean Reservations Department which can make changes to accounts.

This link
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/news-offers/latest-news/news-page/?nid=52&f=2012
from A3 website says it is Aegean Reservations Department which can make changes to accounts.

I called the number again and this time the CSR fixed it!
Thanks!

I'm assuming the answer is no, but I'd rather ask and be sure than find out, too late, otherwise! I took a USair flight and picked up just over 2000 miles in early August. However, I just today signed up for Aegean with the bonus, and am wondering if I can retroactively say "Never mind, I want to credit those US miles to Aegean instead", and get Star Alliance silver.
Thanks!

From the T&Cs
However, new Members shall have the right to retroactively have flight Miles credited to their Account for a period up to six (6) months prior to their registration, provided they send the required documents (ticket coupons, boarding passes etc.) to the Miles&Bonus department in support of their claim.

However, if you have already credited the miles to US, you'll need to contact US to "uncredit" them before A3 can do anything. This may be possible in theory (though according to this forum it's not possible to uncredit a flight that has posted to LH M&M), but I wouldn't bother for 2000 miles.

Hi,

I'm trying to achieve *G with A3.

My itinerary is an ZRH-SFO non-stop roundtrip (LX 38, 39) in october-november on Business P. The ticket has been ticketed by Lufthansa (220-...), the etix says UA9772 and UA9773 and the flights are operated by Swiss.

I found the earning tables at http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#SWISS

What is unclear to me, that based on what the accrual is decided? According to the table LX gives P 200%, but both United and LH gives 0.

So in A3 program based on what does the accrual happen: the etix number (LH for me), the flight number on the ticket (UA for me) or the real operating carrier (LX for me)?

I'm happy to read, so if I forgot to look somewhere, just point me to the documents!

Thanks for any answers in advance!

In Star Alliance, it is always the operating carrier that awards the miles. So whatever UA's code maps to on LX (quite possible P) is what you will earn against. You cannot be certain in advance what will map to what, though.

You could call LX and ask them what you're booked in to.

So to be clear, I just don't understand. I have a mileage run on UA coming up. Butt in seat miles is 7,000 miles. I will only receive 3,500 status miles towards *G?

Not enough information to answer that question - but it's possible. What is your booking class/fare code?

Economy G? It was cheap, so I'm assuming that is probably the 50%

Yes, you will only get 50% of the miles. But I don't understand what you don't understand. What you earn is listed here (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/). A3's M&B, like all other FF programmes awards its miles/points according to the fare class booked in; this is valid for both A3 and partner (*A) flights.

Is it correct that you cannot upgrade an *A ticket class using Aegaen miles?

If so which airline program would people recommend to get *A upgrades from economy to business? I usually fly LHR to AKL on SQ or NZ.

Cheers

Is it correct that you cannot upgrade an *A ticket class using Aegaen miles?

If so which airline program would people recommend to get *A upgrades from economy to business? I usually fly LHR to AKL on SQ or NZ.

Cheers

I think you can find the answer at http://www.staralliance.com/en/benefits/frequent-flyer/upgrade-awards

A3 is not in the *A upgrade program, not all members are:
Star Alliance Upgrade Awards are available to the members of 17 frequent flyer programmes when they are travelling on 23 member carriers.More programmes and carriers are set to join in the coming months.


As for the last part of your question, I suggest asking in the *A-forum, where you will get much more diverse answers.

Op fee free to move to appropriate thread. I cant figure out which it is ?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1200296-have-simple-question-about-consolidated-ua-co-ask-here-194.html

Looking at United .com I can find 2 C tickets on Aegean for 25K UA points plus $86 in taxes . I can also pay $385 inc. taxes and get the miles by booking C ticket to Vie .

I am getting effectively 1.08 CPM without the segment and the miles Credit. Seems foolish to me ?

Anyway to book this on Aegean and go for Status ,or book via United .com

Or should I take the biz Class award which would be $805 inc tax and is 40K UA each points and the same $86 in taxes getting effectively 1.79 CPM value for points

Spoiled by UA J Rt TATL EWR ATH for 100K and dont want to waste miles .

P.S I live in Greece 5 1/2 months a year and usually take 2 ATH some other European capital per year . Last time flew ATH CDG for 25K UA but ticket was $485 so maybe worth it .

Should I start paying for InTra Europe ticket and save UA points for TATL

Am I right in assuming that one cannot transfer miles from LH to Aegean's M&Bonus?

Also, hotel bookings on the Aegean website - that doesn't count towards tier status, right? Only flying does?

Am I right in assuming that one cannot transfer miles from LH to Aegean's M&Bonus?

Also, hotel bookings on the Aegean website - that doesn't count towards tier status, right? Only flying does?


Yes, correct. No transfer possible.

Yes, correct. Only flying earns toward tier status, normally. (There are a few exceptions, like trainrides with LH-flightnumber that may count)

so i just signed up for aegean membership. to get star alliance silver status, what do i do next? im based out of lax. don't plan to travel out of the country any time soon.

if i understand correctly, i can't transfer miles to aegean, i have to book a flight.

so if i book something on united from lax to jfk w/in the next 12 months, i'll get star alliance silver status if the mileage is > 2000 miles roundtrip?

As long as your fare class earns 100% (unlike the cheapest economy tickets at 50%), that's correct.

Anyone have experience with getting Aegean miles on a star Alliance codeshare with a non star alliance member? Looking to book An Air Canada flight that is operated by Middle East Airlines at a Tango+ Fare. I know i'll get credited 100% on Aeroplan. Worried that Aegean might not.

A3 will not credit such a flight.
Don't think any *A program will, except aeroplan.

I have a question here.. I have recently credited 27k miles to Aegean and in the process achieved the *G status earlier this month.

I have to book my return ticket from DEL to SFO for end Nov (dont have the card yet) and am looking at crediting the miles to UA (my main carrier). Was wondering if, say I flew SQ or LH and credit those miles to UA, will the BP still show as *G ?

Lounge is not an issue as I have the United Club card. Am just looking at additional bag allowance and priority stuff right now.

I have a question here.. I have recently credited 27k miles to Aegean and in the process achieved the *G status earlier this month.

I have to book my return ticket from DEL to SFO for end Nov (dont have the card yet) and am looking at crediting the miles to UA (my main carrier). Was wondering if, say I flew SQ or LH and credit those miles to UA, will the BP still show as *G ?

Lounge is not an issue as I have the United Club card. Am just looking at additional bag allowance and priority stuff right now.

The BP will (normally) show the tier status of the program you are crediting to. So, no. If you credit to UA, your UA status will show.

You may want to read http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegean-airlines-miles-bonus/1396886-using-a3-status-g-benefits-but-credit-miles-another-ffp.html and several other threads on the subject.


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegean-airlines-miles-bonus/1368062-using-benefits-one-ffp-while-crediting-another-worth-hassle.html

I know that this has been covered to some extent in this and other threads, but I am interested in the best way to go about it. I am planning to switch status from AC*E to A3*G. In order to avoid the problems of miles not being credited properly, is it preferable to enter the A3 number in the reservation, and at the counter ask for the *A G status to be added to the boarding pass? Most people seem the suggest the inverse, but I am wondering if anyone has any comparative experience in both approaches. I am out of Eupgrade points, so it is all about lounge access.

Your boarding pass will always display the status of the programme you're crediting to, unfortunately, so that would be quite complicated.

Your boarding pass will always display the status of the programme you're crediting to, unfortunately, so that would be quite complicated.
gojko88 & intuition,
Thank you for the response. I'll try to fly United from DEL to SFO via EWR. Atleast I'll get all the Premier Access benefits including 2 bags (should be enough).

Guess next time around, I'll try to fly other *A carriers, assuming I receive the *G card at the earliest :)

I've got a question regarding mileage credit. I've read that only fares on the Aegean chart get credit (so P on United does not); however, if you purchase an economy fare that receives credit as listed on the Aegean chart, but then is complementary upgraded to R fare on United, does the flight still earn credit on Aegean? In other words, does mileage accrual depend on the fare class purchased or the final fare class flown?

I've got a question regarding mileage credit. I've read that only fares on the Aegean chart get credit (so P on United does not); however, if you purchase an economy fare that receives credit as listed on the Aegean chart, but then is complementary upgraded to R fare on United, does the flight still earn credit on Aegean? In other words, does mileage accrual depend on the fare class purchased or the final fare class flown?

In theory, at least, it's always the fare class purchased. Now, mistakes do happen, and these result in numerous threads being started in FT, usually bashing alliances, airlines and the fidelity programmes they run. ;)

In theory, at least, it's always the fare class purchased. Now, mistakes do happen, and these result in numerous threads being started in FT, usually bashing alliances, airlines and the fidelity programmes they run. ;)

Ok don't ask why but I bought 2 RT ATH VIE *A L and k class using UA .com

Now that I registered for *A and got K bonus miles should I change my ff number at the check in. If I fly ATH TO CDG I might earn status and get an extra piece of luggage on my ATH CDG FLIGHT in may.

If not i will use UA miles for the ATH CDG TRIP and just lose the miles for this
DEC ATH VIE that I bought.
Thoughts ?

Hi Guys,

I was looking everywhere but could not find an answer to following questions, neither was it mentioned on the AEGEAN webpage:
1) How long is the Gold Status Valid? 1 year? 2 years? Longer?
2) Gold Status re-qualifcation period is from when to when? Calendar Year to Calendar Year or starting from Gold Status qualification date 1 year on / 2 years on?

I appreciate your help!

Cheers!

1) How long is the Gold Status Valid? 1 year? 2 years? Longer?

No one really knows at the moment. Theoretically, as long as you keep crediting one flight every 12 months, your *G status extends for another year.


2) Gold Status re-qualifcation period is from when to when? Calendar Year to Calendar Year or starting from Gold Status qualification date 1 year on / 2 years on?

The 12-month deadline for crediting an additional flight to the programme in order to maintain status is based on the date of your last credited flight.

A3 will not credit such a flight.
Don't think any *A program will, except aeroplan.

Thanks!

As i am only having these 2000 Miles for enrollment, i am missing quite a lot for *A-Gold with Aegan...Situated in Switzerland wont make it easier to gain some cheap Miles, will it?

So the Question goes like this: Is there any Route ex CH that makes the Gold fast and cheap?

As i am only having these 2000 Miles for enrollment, i am missing quite a lot for *A-Gold with Aegan...Situated in Switzerland wont make it easier to gain some cheap Miles, will it?

So the Question goes like this: Is there any Route ex CH that makes the Gold fast and cheap?

You asked this before, a couple of days ago, using a different thread and the answer is no: even if you don't like it, you still have to fly far and expensive.

...
So the Question goes like this: Is there any Route ex CH that makes the Gold fast and cheap?

I think we in this thread generally knows more about A3 and M&B than about the price structure of flights ex Switzerland.

Also, what is considered cheap varies from person to person. There may be many other things that you also consider important for your MR, which we know nothing about. So if you are asking for someone to put together a MR for you, you may not get much help, unless you are willing to do some work yourself.


Anyway, there are a few strategies you can follow. If you are looking to make it in one trip, you start with deciding what fare class you are wiling to pay for. Say you are willing to pay J-fare/200%. Then you need a destination 4500 miles away (4500*200% R/T= 18k). To go gcmap and find all possible destination that fulfils this. For example search for "4500nmi@ZRH"

Another strategy is to find a short segment that earns well due to a generous minimum or Flat miles. With this strategy you start by search the A3 chart to find a suitable airline, fare class and segment type. Say you find something that has flat miles=2000, then you look for how you can book 9 of those at the cheapest price.

So the Question goes like this: Is there any Route ex CH that makes the Gold fast and cheap?

Firstly ask yourself why you want *G with A3. Do you actually fly enough to make use of this status? If yes, then why can't you just credit a few of your usual flights to A3?

From Switzerland and cheap (= economy class), your best bet is to buy a one-way to the UK/Spain/Italy and then take LX flights to Africa or Asia.

You can get 500 extra miles by adding a transit through GVA for a minimal additional cost over transiting ZRH only. So for example, ZRH-GVA-LHR-GVA-ZRH, and nest LHR-GVA-ZRH-XXX-ZRH-GVA-LHR. Going to BKK or HKG would get you over 15000 miles if you book in classes M, U, H, V, Q, S, W, G which are still cheap. For the remaining 3000 miles, go to London again or something. This can cost less than CHF 2000. Save on UK airport tax by building in a 24-hour layover after the ex-LHR segment of the long haul.

I made *G with 1.5 returns on LX for which I paid about £1000 and spent 8 hours extra transiting through Switzerland. The direct BA flights would have cost more, and of course I was going to Asia anyway. I just wish I had known about A3 in 2010 as I could have enjoyed an extra 2 years of *G by now - and this would really have made me choose *A more often, which is one of the points brought up in another thread about what A3 brings to *A.

Hello everyone rookie here with a question, btw this is my first post.
I have recently attained Aegean GOLD status, but as you all know the card will take at least 2 months to get here.
I started to read about the FQTS/FQTV sections so that I can get the benefits of *G from Aegean, but credit miles to Lufthansa.

I called the Lufthansa reservation department in the UK 3 separate times, and each time I would speak to a new agent. All 3 agents had no clue what FQTS or FQTV were. I convinced one of them to enter my A3 number into the booking, but they could not confirm which was FQTS or which was FQTV.

When I check my details on "checkmytrip.com" under the FF# section both LH and A3 are listed. So 2 questions:

1. On "checkmytrip.com" if the LH # is above the A3 number, does that mean my LH FF# is FQTV (accrual) and my A3 FF# is FQTS (status/services/'non-accrual')?

2. Which Lufthansa reservation office do you know is competent with the FQTS vs FQTV?

As per Amadeus QuickRef (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=create%20an%20ssr%20for%20a%20frequent%20flyer%2 0%20sr%20fqtv%20bahk%2F-ba1234567%2Fp3%20or%20sr%20fqtv%20ba-ba%20free%20flow%20text%2Fp1%20%20create%20an%20ss r%20for%20frequent%20flyer%20mileage%20accrual%2C% 20and%20to%20obtain%20a%20class%20upgrade%20sr%20f qtu%20lh-lh%20free%20flow%20text%2Fp1%2Fs2%20%20create%20an %20ssr%20for%20frequent%20flyer%20mileage%20redemp tion%20sr%20fqtr%20ba%20nn1-ba1234563%2Ffree%20flow%20text%2Fp2%20%20create%20 an%20ssr%20to%20be%20recognized%20as%20a%20frequen t%20traveler%20on%20one%20airline%2C%20while%20acc ruing%20miles%20on%20another%20sr%20fqts%20ba-ba%20free%20flow%20text%2Fp3&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.air.flyingway.com%2Fbooks%2FA madeus-Quick-Reference-Guide.pdf&ei=M9-TUKP8DKW_0AHN8oDAAg&usg=AFQjCNHhpSY6P2ag0dbE2LgcHuFWS8-4lQ&cad=rja), code should be:
Create an SSR for a frequent flyer
SR FQTV BAHK/-BA1234567/P3
or
SR FQTV BA-BA FREE FLOW TEXT/P1

Create an SSR for frequent flyer mileage
accrual, and to obtain a class upgrade
SR FQTU LH-LH FREE FLOW TEXT/P1/S2

Create an SSR for frequent flyer mileage
redemption
SR FQTR BA NN1-BA1234563/FREE FLOW
TEXT/P2

Create an SSR to be recognized as a
frequent traveler on one airline, while
accruing miles on another
SR FQTS BA-BA FREE FLOW TEXT/P3

LH agents in native Amadeus should know how to do this...

Using the standard shortcut FFN will create an FQTV field, not an FQTS field.

Otherwise, ask the agent to go into GuideRes, a GUI which many LH agents use. It should be pretty clear from there...

Welcome to Flyertalk and the A3 forum, Kamloops!


The people over at M&M forum may be able to tell you more how lufthansa handles these fields. A quick search says it will work some times and some times not.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1386543-separate-ff-numbers-earning-status.html?highlight=FQTS
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1377588-fqts-fqtv.html

Just want to make this clear... It is 18k miles now (2k signup bonus), correct?

So if I fly a single segment that credits 18k miles, I go directly from base to gold? It's not an additional 16k after the segment that you cross 4k?

Just want to make this clear... It is 18k miles now (2k signup bonus), correct?

So if I fly a single segment that credits 18k miles, I go directly from base to gold? It's not an additional 16k after the segment that you cross 4k?

Yes, you will get gold.

Is it normal that status takes a while to update on their website? I flew a few segments this month and am at ~ 5.5K miles (incl. the 2K sign-up) right now which should give me Silver, correct? While all segments are correctly posted on their website, it however still only shows "MEMBER" next to my number.

Thanks!

Is it normal that status takes a while to update on their website? I flew a few segments this month and am at ~ 5.5K miles (incl. the 2K sign-up) right now which should give me Silver, correct? While all segments are correctly posted on their website, it however still only shows "MEMBER" next to my number.

Thanks!

No, IME it was pretty much instant - status was updated the following day after miles posted IIRC.
I assume you don't see a "Card upgrade" in your activity listing either? Maybe you need to give them a call.

This is not particularly A3-specific, as I believe that *A might have an overriding rule wrt mileage accrual on flights cancelled due to IRROPs.

I flew on TG with my A3 FFN appended. Due to IRROPs, the flight was cancelled and I was rebooked on the flight next day. Am I entitled to miles on both the cancelled and rebooked flight? I have done a search and threads on the UA and BA forums seem to hint that this is possible.

This is not particularly A3-specific, as I believe that *A might have an overriding rule wrt mileage accrual on flights cancelled due to IRROPs.

I flew on TG with my A3 FFN appended. Due to IRROPs, the flight was cancelled and I was rebooked on the flight next day. Am I entitled to miles on both the cancelled and rebooked flight? I have done a search and threads on the UA and BA forums seem to hint that this is possible.

I believe you can only "double up" if you get rebooked on an airline in a different alliance. You would then retro-claim for the cancelled flight, and claim miles on the rebooked flight with a different FFP in the other (or no) alliance.

I believe you can only "double up" if you get rebooked on an airline in a different alliance. You would then retro-claim for the cancelled flight, and claim miles on the rebooked flight with a different FFP in the other (or no) alliance.

That depends. I had double-dipping success in an instance of rebooking within *A. Some time ago, I was booked on an LH flight with my SK FF# appended. The flight got cancelled due to IRROPs and I was rebooked on another LH flight for the next day. I attached my A3 # to the rebooking. I wound up getting miles for the cancelled flight in my SK account, and miles for the flown flight in my A3 account.

The caveat: I'm not sure if it would have worked if I'd had my A3 # attached to both flights, but IMO it may well have.

I believe you can only "double up" if you get rebooked on an airline in a different alliance. You would then retro-claim for the cancelled flight, and claim miles on the rebooked flight with a different FFP in the other (or no) alliance.

That depends. I had double-dipping success in an instance of rebooking within *A. Some time ago, I was booked on an LH flight with my SK FF# appended. The flight got cancelled due to IRROPs and I was rebooked on another LH flight for the next day. I attached my A3 # to the rebooking. I wound up getting miles for the cancelled flight in my SK account, and miles for the flown flight in my A3 account.

The caveat: I'm not sure if it would have worked if I'd had my A3 # attached to both flights, but IMO it may well have.

Thank you for your inputs! A3 replied to me saying that TG has rejected the retro-claim for the cancelled flight stating the reason that "pax not found on manifest"...

Aegean says they'll give you credit of US flights in O inventory, which is first class award inventory. Is that an exception to the usual rule of no earning for award tickets?

I have a few domestic legs on an intl award, and am wondering whether its worth trying to credit to A3.

Thanks!

Aegean says they'll give you credit of US flights in O inventory, which is first class award inventory. Is that an exception to the usual rule of no earning for award tickets?

I expect it won't work, but you certainly won't earn anything if you "credit" to US. So why not try it and see what happens?

Aegean says they'll give you credit of US flights in O inventory, which is first class award inventory. Is that an exception to the usual rule of no earning for award tickets?
Read carefully the A3 mileage chart:
US First Upgrades P, O 100%

Makes sense that you'll get the Economy class miles credited (100%) if you make an upgrade into First on US...
But it does not state that you'll get miles credited when using a First class award ticket on US...

Read carefully the A3 mileage chart:
US First Upgrades P, O 100%

Makes sense that you'll get the Economy class miles credited (100%) if you make an upgrade into First on US...
But it does not state that you'll get miles credited when using a First class award ticket on US...

Ah -- did not realize that O was also used for upgrades. I thought O was exclusively award inventory. (Not an elite on US, so I wouldn't know :))

Thanks!

Dear all,

I am based in London, but I often travel to POland Germany and Switzerland so as you can guess I have been enrolled into Miles and More about three years ago just after getting bored reading the LH Magazine..

Two years ago I have realized that M&M was doing the Silver promotion: so yeah that wwas the time when I started to do some irrelevant trips RT LCY ZRH GVA during the same per ex. ... just everything in order to get the 30 segments done and get the status.

I fly without luggage most of the time... just a tablet and my laptop or just a backpack... Well I can just say that Silver status is quite high comparred to most of the other ways to travel in Europe (being a student I was quite used to fly in low cost airlines). Now it's hard to realize but even FLT with M&M is a bit of a luxury.

I've had many trips where I was not able to use the Star Alliance extra services like lounge in BUD / SJJ / GDN and this made me wewait outside like a WIzzair traveller...

Now I've requalified for FTL which will lasts me till 2016 or 2015 I think.
Aftrer reading online I realissed that I could be a Gold for few money spent as I will have to say bye bye to my savings if I wanted to reach the 100 000 miles needed for M&M SEN.... beside of upgrades and awards I think it's almost the same; same handfling and lounge access come on gold still gold ..

I am just wondering about the way how to get the status and well, the 18000 miles I need to hit the target.

From what I can see on the Miles&Bonus website, if per ex travelling in E class in LX they will pay 500 miles per segment and 50 percent of the normal miles... am I correct? If yes, a return flight made in one day could give me more than 2000 miles? True or false?

Now, let's say I book the same itinerary LHR ZRH GVA in J or D (business flex) will I get 4 x 1000 and 4 x 2000 miles so in total 12000 miles?

The whole story between accural factor and minimum miles is very confusing for me.

And the last question: is there something nicer than Star alliance Gold ... forgetting about the famous HON ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

...

From what I can see on the Miles&Bonus website, if per ex travelling in E class in LX they will pay 500 miles per segment and 50 percent of the normal miles... am I correct? If yes, a return flight made in one day could give me more than 2000 miles? True or false?

Now, let's say I book the same itinerary LHR ZRH GVA in J or D (business flex) will I get 4 x 1000 and 4 x 2000 miles so in total 12000 miles?

The whole story between accural factor and minimum miles is very confusing for me.

And the last question: is there something nicer than Star alliance Gold ... forgetting about the famous HON ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Sorry to disappoint you, but false. They don't add upp like that.

The 500 miles are the minimum, ie the smallest number of miles you can earn. The table says: "you will earn 50% of actual flown miles, but never less than 500". For flights shorter than 1000 miles (at accrual factor 50%), the minimum will kick in. For flights longer, accrual factor decides the actual miles earned.


All legs of LHR ZRH GVA is shorter than 500 miles, so the minimum kicks in. A return is 4*500 miles in E.


No, there is nothing alliance wide greater than gold.

still good enough to get 2000 miles for a trip worth 130 pounds

SO I can get *G for a bit more than 1100 quids ... good to know ! If I knew that before I would not fly that often in order to get FTL with M&M.

still good enough to get 2000 miles for a trip worth 130 pounds

SO I can get *G for a bit more than 1100 quids ... good to know ! If I knew that before I would not fly that often in order to get FTL with M&M.

Sorry but I think you are exaggerating a little bit with your posts/threads:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19922076-post13.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19922044-post15.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19922038-post17.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19919051-post25.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/1420921-miles-more-earning-status-questions.html

If we count this one, its a total of 5 identical posts and a whole thread dedicated to your question...
try to keep it to one thread/post if possible :rolleyes:


By the way, next to the vast amount of answeres already given to you (including my answer today in the M&M forum - last link), there are even 3 dedicated FAQ's that basically answer most of your questions!

sorry but I was just trying to get an answer to my questions as soon as possible as it comes and involves a certain investment

sorry but I was just trying to get an answer to my questions as soon as possible as it comes and involves a certain investment

this thread might help you a lot to achieve A3*G the cheapest and easiest way:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegean-airlines-miles-bonus/1289389-a3-g-challenge-who-have-most-creative-routing-achieve-g-shortest-time.html

As I've answered to your question in the M&M forum thread of yours, I would go on and subscribe to the LX newsletter as they often have very good offers in business class that books into P and earns 200% on M&B (Longhaul!).

LX nearly always has excellent fares in business (P) ex Italy.

Hi! This is a really basic question... If I collect points with Aegean does that mean I can only use the points to get free flights with Aegean or can I use them towards flights with their partners?

I am going to start collecting miles and I'm trying to choose the right plan. I fly frequently but I usually use a variety of airlines.

Hi! This is a really basic question... If I collect points with Aegean does that mean I can only use the points to get free flights with Aegean or can I use them towards flights with their partners?

You can use both Aegean and partner airlines.

Just want to make this extra, extra clear as I plan on crediting 18K miles to A3 by end of 2013 for *G.

Can I fly *A member affiliate and still get mileage credit? For example, can I fly Air Canada Express (Jazz)/United Express (SkyWest, etc.)/etc. and still get the mileage credit? The flights would not be operated by Air Canada/United/etc., but rather an affiliate of the mainline.

Just want to make this extra, extra clear as I plan on crediting 18K miles to A3 by end of 2013 for *G.

Can I fly *A member affiliate and still get mileage credit? For example, can I fly Air Canada Express (Jazz)/United Express (SkyWest, etc.)/etc. and still get the mileage credit? The flights would not be operated by Air Canada/United/etc., but rather an affiliate of the mainline.

As I understand it, you should get credit so long as the affiliate is effectively a subsidiary (as in, it does not actually sell tickets on its own). As you want to be extra, extra sure, I can confirm that I have definitely received credit from A3 for an Air Canada Jazz flight, though I don't have direct experience crediting to A3 for United Express.

Is there still not a consensus as to how long the enrollment miles remain valid? I'd like to sign up while it's still 2000 miles but I don't expect to have a *A flight until later in the fall. By regional, will all US customers have the same expiration? Maybe I should sign up my wife to see what it says -- or maybe my kid or dog?

Is there still not a consensus as to how long the enrollment miles remain valid? I'd like to sign up while it's still 2000 miles but I don't expect to have a *A flight until later in the fall. By regional, will all US customers have the same expiration? Maybe I should sign up my wife to see what it says -- or maybe my kid or dog?

Enrollment miles expire 1 year after enrollment. If you register today, those enrollment miles expire on December 31, 2013. Personally, I'd say wait. I doubt Aegean will lower the enrollment mile bonus.

I have a flight booked on United Z class from BOS-PVG through LAX and should get 36,384 miles based on the 200% accrual bonus. Does anyone know if I can apply the 18,192 miles from the first half of the trip to Aegean and the second half to United? I don't see using the Aegean reward miles for anything other than reaching *A gold status.

You can use one frequent flyer program (FFP) for the flights in one direction and a different FFP for the return flights on the same ticketed itinerary. On some ticketed itineraries, I have credited each flight segment to a different program from the previous flights flown on the ticketed itinerary. It usually works out well for me, but sometimes there is some confusion and the outcome is messed up a bit. Requesting retroactive flight credit may help make things more reliable, but not always either.

Enrollment miles expire 1 year after enrollment. If you register today, those enrollment miles expire on December 31, 2013. Personally, I'd say wait. I doubt Aegean will lower the enrollment mile bonus.

Or... maybe they will. :) Hopefully it will come back in the next six months or so.

Hi all, long time reader first time poster! Apologies for the oft-repeated cry for help that follows...

I'm trying to get *G via A3 and am having trouble doing the math to see if I will qualify. In particular I'm having trouble finding fare classes to do the miles arithmetic. I've booked a trip as follows:

MEL-AKL (NZ L class)
AKL-HKG-LHR (CX and VS - can't find the fare class)
LHR-LIS-EWR (TAP Portugal)
EWR-LAX-AKL (VX don't know fare class, NZ W class)
AKL-MEL (NZ S class)

From reading the A3 earning chart it appears that neither of MEL-AKL/AKL-MEL are going to earn me anything (so I may as well just attribute that to NZ's Airpoints program).

AKL-HKG is operated by CX and the HKG-LHR leg by VA - neither of which I can find the fare class for and thus don't know how that translates to A3 miles. I have the same problem for the VX leg from JFK-LAX.

The TAP flights I believe are 0.5 and 1.0 multipliers for the two legs respectively.

Can anyone lend a helping hand? Apologies for this fairly ill-presented question!

AKL-HKG is operated by CX and the HKG-LHR leg by VA - neither of which I can find the fare class for and thus don't know how that translates to A3 miles. I have the same problem for the VX leg from JFK-LAX.


Miles on CX, VA or VX are not creditable to M&B.
I think that you HKG-LHR leg is operated by VS, not VA (still not creditable).

Generally the airlines operating flights need to be part of the Star Alliance for M&B credit. See the airlines & classes at http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/

Thanks so much for your reply, duvin!

With that info in mind I've rerouted so I'm on Air NZ on AKL-LAX-LHR (replacing AKL-HKG-LHR). I'll leave the VX EWR-LAX (the cost of switching to a Star Alliance carrier for that leg isn't worth it).

And it appears I still come up short a little bit which is a shame! I guess I'll need to sneak in another trip somewhere this year... Thanks again for your help.

My gf is now up to 21k miles, with the last trip just credited. They were all earned within 10 months. However, her status is still marked as Blue. How many days does it usually take for the status to reflect the miles earned, and turn Gold?

My gf is now up to 21k miles, with the last trip just credited. They were all earned within 10 months. However, her status is still marked as Blue. How many days does it usually take for the status to reflect the miles earned, and turn Gold?

IIRC it takes just one day - 1 business day after hitting 20k there will be a "Card upgrade" transaction. Now, that may have changed so give it a little time. But if nothing shows up in a few days, you may want to call them and ask.

My gf is now up to 21k miles, with the last trip just credited. They were all earned within 10 months. However, her status is still marked as Blue. How many days does it usually take for the status to reflect the miles earned, and turn Gold?

I just checked my transaction and found that mine was upgraded 5 days later.

I just checked my transaction and found that mine was upgraded 5 days later.

Probably because the miles from the gold qualifying trip took 4 days to credit. Miles get backdated to the date of the flight but the card upgrade only happens the day after they actually appear in the account

My fiancee turned Gold two days later....and is very happy about it. Efaristos, Aegean.

If a fare code isn't listed for earning from Lufthansa flights on Aegean, does that mean 0 miles earned? L classes are not listed, even though this is really a step up from something like S, which does earn miles on A3...that seems arbitrarily stupid.

If so, that really [Moderator deletion - poster is not happy] because I have about 4 flights that haven't posted, which would've put me over the line. I'm only 2K miles short of A3*G, and it seems that everything's going wrong in passing that goal post.

First, Lufthansa [Moderator deletion - poster is not happy] and posts 2 biz flights to M&M instead of A3 (which would have put me at *G), and all but one of my flights this year have all been L fare code :-(

Nevermind, I read the FAQ. :( :( :(

Warning: If you cannot find the booking class under the operating carrier chart, the earning is 0 miles.

That's [Moderator deletion - poster is not happy]., IMHO. Super duper discount fares earn miles but things mid-tier from Lufthansa don't? :confused: :td:

L classes are not listed, even though this is really a step up from something like S, which does earn miles on A3...that seems arbitrarily stupid.

Frankly, I can't recall the last time I've seen an S fare cheaper than an L fare. LH always uses E, K and L for its cheapest tickets, which earn only 125 miles in their own programme. S already goes up to 750.

Frankly, I can't recall the last time I've seen an S fare cheaper than an L fare. LH always uses E, K and L for its cheapest tickets, which earn only 125 miles in their own programme. S already goes up to 750.

I see the miles&more chart now, and L is definitely cheaper than S.

But now that I know this, I can't even find a couple of cheap personal weekend flights that earn miles to get status. I'll have to buy some pretty damn expensive personal tickets, or wait months for me to get another odd higher tier fare tickets...because I don't have a choice with my employer's system, I've got to pick the cheapest ticket for biz travel.

I've been stuck at needing 2,000 A3 miles for almost a month and a half now. And I've already pre-booked flights for the next 3 weeks -- and for nearly 1200 EUR in spend, I get 500 miles on A3 (one class M flight, the rest are E, T, and L). *sigh*

I wonder if A* sends out white plastic cards if one does not attain blue status within a year. All other ff programs I used to far sent a blue card after one flight or after signing up.

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I am a bit frustrated by my experience with Star Alliance so far, considering I've had Lufthansa tell me to piss off when I complained about a mistake they made, which has kept me from making A3*G for weeks. And non-earning fare classes are [Moderator deletion - poster is not happy], considering that seems to be all I can find for DE->CH and intra-DE flights for less than 300 EUR. So, at this rate, I'll never make A3*G. I think my frustrations aren't unjustified...

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I can understand your frustration but if the reason is that you assumed a fare class that is not listed in the chart would magically earn anyway, then frankly you were not doing your homework. This is a thread for flame free help, and if you ask without all the unnecessary words you will get good advice.

And if the problem is that you cannot find any fare classes for your travel pattern that earns on M&B, then maybe the program is not for you. There is no such thing as a perfect program.

I wonder if A* sends out white plastic cards if one does not attain blue status within a year. All other ff programs I used to far sent a blue card after one flight or after signing up.

AFAIK there is no plastic card for the base level. You will only have the paper printout.

I have had to perform some considerable clean-up on this thread.

I would like to remind everyone that this is the flame-free newbie thread and extra sensitivity is required.

Moreover, some of the posting that has been deleted by me is not appropriate in any thread on Flyertalk.

And to those reacting to ill judged posting and inappropriate language - please do not call anyone out in-line, please simply hit the little red icon to the left and let a Moderator deal with matters.

http://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3AxbcTUHBHIqoeO5zLfzeyVewCoT-28LFbLJLN8Ny349oeCxkrw

Now, let's get back to normal, eh.

Thanks,

GoldCircle
A3 Forum Moderator

Currently thinking of signing up for A3, as it looks like I'll be doing a fair number of Star Alliance flights this year as well as my normal OneWorld ones.

However... and apologies if this is contentious or negative in tone - does anyone have a view on the airline's financial stability, given the Greek economic situation? Slightly hesitant to trust my hard-earned miles if there's a risk that they evaporate at some point.

Presumably if an airline folds, then all FF accounts & status gets lost, unless another airline steps in & acquires it, and transfers the scheme & participants to its own (a la BA/BMI)

Currently thinking of signing up for A3, as it looks like I'll be doing a fair number of Star Alliance flights this year as well as my normal OneWorld ones.

However... and apologies if this is contentious or negative in tone - does anyone have a view on the airline's financial stability, given the Greek economic situation? Slightly hesitant to trust my hard-earned miles if there's a risk that they evaporate at some point.

Presumably if an airline folds, then all FF accounts & status gets lost, unless another airline steps in & acquires it, and transfers the scheme & participants to its own (a la BA/BMI)


Really don't know about A3 financially, but being here in Greece I see that a lot of the flights I have taken are quite full.

Don't know if consolidators pay enough to keep a company profitable , but it seems in spite of the economy the Greeks are still traveling a fair amount.

MrDoe has the following activity on his A3 account:

2012 Feb Internet enrollment 1000
March 21 2012 (750+3446 miles)
March 26 2012 (3446+750 miles)
March 31 2012 Changed to 'Blue' Status
<9877 various flight miles credited to A3>
Now he has 19,269 miles total.

His account summary shows that the following tier miles will soon expire:
21 Mar 2013 3446 miles
26 Mar 2013 1946 miles :confused:
(April and later expiry)

According to the FAQ, I would say that if he earns 16k miles between Mar 26 2012 and Mar 25 2013, he will make Gold. But the 'points to expire' values make zero sense to me, and make me question my logic. It's almost like they took his 1000 + 750 + 750 + 1500 (out of 3446) for a total of 4000 and said they won't expire. I get that. But why would they non-expire miles earned on the 26th instead of the 21st? :confused:

Here is the real issue: He has a round trip flight scheduled on March 22-25 2013 that will earn 2000 miles (4 segs that will credit as 500-mile minimums) if credited to A3. By my calcs, that would just over 16k earned from Mar 26 2012 and Mar 25 2013. But that doesn't seem to match A3's calcs.

Will that meet the cutoff to hit A3 Gold, or does he need to make a reservation prior to March 21 2013 to be sure he will make the 20k-in-one-year deadline?

Thanks in advance!
--jd

It makes sense, but takes some thinking...
The first 4k points (1000 welcome + 3000 flown) are used for getting blue. After that, they are "protected" - they will not expire. So the sum of what is said to expire is all miles flown >=12 month ago - 4000 "protected" miles.

So of the 16k needed, he has 15 269. And from here the listed miles will expire.

So flying on he 22nd march will not suffice. As you can see from the expiry dates, it the deadline for "16k after blue" is set to 12 months after the qualifying activity that earned blue.

... but you are right, by this logic it should have been:

Expiring:
21 Mar 2013 1196 miles (4196 - 3000)
26 Mar 2013 4196 miles

It is the same totals, but a difference in which miles wxpire what date.It seems they didn't use the oldest 4k miles for the blue advancement. Can't explain it other than that.

For your trouble, I think you need to adapt to what is stated in expiring miles and fly before 21 march.

... but you are right, by this logic it should have been:

Expiring:
21 Mar 2013 1196 miles (4196 - 3000)
26 Mar 2013 4196 miles

It is the same totals, but a difference in which miles wxpire what date.It seems they didn't use the oldest 4k miles for the blue advancement. Can't explain it other than that.

For your trouble, I think you need to adapt to what is stated in expiring miles and fly before 21 march.
Exactly, If they had protected the first 4000 miles by activity date (instead of some random 4000 miles probably selected by posting date), I would be fine only losing 1196 on Mar 21, because we already have a trip planned that could earn 2k prior to March 26.

Worth arguing, or should I just suck it up and buy him a last-minute deal from DFW-IAH on UA before Mar 21? Hate to spend the $150 or whatever if I can reasonably avoid it.

ETA: If I'm doing my math correctly, from March 26 onward he has 14073 miles, so flying the 2k by March 25 should work, right? The only question is whether or not their system has it so screwed up that they will erase the wrong miles in their auto-crediting... and whether he will be able to convince them to do the math by hand and give him the status.

I'd say "by posting date" is pretty logical - the first 4k miles that posted to the account was used for blue and then protected. It is an automated process than runs every day, so it just evaluates what sits in the account that day. No way for it to see "wow, this is his 3'rd leg, maybe better wait and see if leg 1 & 2 comes in soon". And there are a number of reasons for miles to be delayed in posting to A3, most of them out of A3's hands.

The good thing about the rolling year evaluation is that you don't lose everything at once. Each expiring batch will set you back that amount

Now: Need 731 miles
by 21 march: Need 4177 mi (731 + 4196)
by 26 march: Need 6123 mi (731 + 4196 + 1946)

Bad thing is he has some larger batches to expire in the beginning of that rolling year.

I don't think you can make them change what miles that will expire when (since it is an automated process, and I seriously think FT has more insight to it than most A3 staff). If you could, yes than you would need 1927 mi (731 + 1196) by 21 march.

Considering what is at stake (his gold card) I wouldn't hesitate getting him those 731 mi right now. (unless you have some 4177 mi planned in march anyway).

Also, I think (not 100% sure though) the miles need to post before 21 march. The expiration will take place by that day, and even if new miles post a few days later with prior flight date, the process will not see the expired miles.

Well, you're gonna have to call A3 anyway, because the miles will expire before the final trip posts. The agent will take out a calculator and add up the miles within a one year period (tell them what the one year period is), and then they will forward the upgrade request to the M&B desk.

Don't worry about what the online system thinks - it's irrelevant.

Friends,

I am a member of Lufthansa Miles and More and have about 20500 Award miles.

Since Attaining the *G is faster in Miles and Bonus I became a member of Miles and Bonus as well.

Is there any way I can use the M&M miles to M&B for tier upgrades.

I will also be flying from BLR - YYZ on a Lufthansa flight. I want to Credit the M&B for this travel. As per

http://www.owenrudge.net/utils/starcalc/?numrows=3&from1=BLR&to1=YYZ&airline1=LH&class1=Y&from2=&to2=&airline2=A3&class2=A&from3=&to3=&airline3=A3&class3=A

I will be gaining 12399 M&B on a class Y booking.

Can you please confirm if this is true.

Assuming above is true is there any way I can use the M&M award miles to benefit my M&B account.

Pardon the newbie question as I am very new to flyer programs.

Thanks in Advance,
Avinash

Note that Y is the most flexible economy class ticket which would cost you thousands for this route. Are you sure you'll be flying a Y fare?

There's no way you can use your M&M account to "aid" your M&B account since the miles are never transferrable.

Hopefully It will be Y class as it will be booked by my company. Assuming If it's Y class will I be accumulating as many miles as above. Please confirm. Also my wife would be traveling with me and is there any way that she can transfer her miles to my account in M&B

Thanks
Avinash

Just to confirm - 3 quick questions;

1) I have 16k miles with miles slated to begin expiring on Feb 9th - if I reach 20k before then, they will not expire for 36 months?

2) How much do I have to credit towards A3 and how often to extend that?

3) I have a 4k mile flight from Jan 3rd, 2013 that did not credit properly. I waited the requisite 2 weeks and submitted a claim. The miles will likely post in mid-february. Will the miles post retroactively and reinstate some miles that will have expired by then?

Thanks

Hopefully It will be Y class as it will be booked by my company. Assuming If it's Y class will I be accumulating as many miles as above. Please confirm.

Yes, if they book you on a Y fare, the earning chart applies, you'll get 150% of the miles flown on LH.

Also my wife would be traveling with me and is there any way that she can transfer her miles to my account in M&B

Unfortunately, no.

Hey guys,

When earning points with other airlines in *A, are the points rounded up
to nearest 100?

Example: LAX-CLT is 2120 miles. (USAIRWAYS)
Will that credit my Aegean balance with 2200 or 2120 points? :confused:

Hey guys,

When earning points with other airlines in *A, are the points rounded up
to nearest 100?

Example: LAX-CLT is 2120 miles. (USAIRWAYS)
Will that credit my Aegean balance with 2200 or 2120 points? :confused:

No, it never happens in any airlines. Why do you have such an imagination?

You are wrong
Scandinavian Airlines Eurobonus does this.



No, it never happens in any airlines. Why do you have such an imagination?

You are wrong
Scandinavian Airlines Eurobonus does this.

OK, my apology. However, A3 certainly doesn't do like that, I had one flight booked in Y and got credited as 624 miles, no round up, just exactly the distance.

what is the prefix of the MB program for A3 to fill in if I'm flying with an other *A carrier?

what is the prefix of the MB program for A3 to fill in if I'm flying with an other *A carrier?

A3

I have a question regarding award redemptions. I'm thinking about burning my miles on a one way Business Class award from Asia to Europe. Does anybody know if A3 take out fuel surcharges on award tickets, or do I only have to pay for the taxes?

I have been an SK Eurobonus member for some time. Most of my travel is short-haul economy, with the occasional long-haul, with no one airline in particular (certainly not since the demise of BD).

I am trying to work out what the catch is with A3's program. Obviously status is easy to get, the mileage multipliers for the partners' classes seem similar to other SA programs, and award flights seem to require similar numbers of miles.

What did I miss?

The "catch" is that the low tier threshold is on par with low earnings for the normal A3 flyer. Domestic A3 flights in econ earns flat 200 miles, ie you need 100 such segments to earn 20k miles.
It is only if you fly international longhaul on other *A airlines in fare classes that earns 100% or above on A3 the *G is easy.

If you mainly fly short Y on SK you may want to stay with EB. Or at least make sure you usually are on fares that earns on A3 before switching. Deep discount econ SK fares earns 0 on A3 (but 1000 on SK).

So in short, you need to do your math. Take a couple of your past itineraries and calculate the miles you would have earned on A3. You will quickly get the picture.

The "catch" is that the low tier threshold is on par with low earnings for the normal A3 flyer. Domestic A3 flights in econ earns flat 200 miles, ie you need 100 such segments to earn 20k miles.
It is only if you fly international longhaul on other *A airlines in fare classes that earns 100% or above on A3 the *G is easy.

If you mainly fly short Y on SK you may want to stay with EB. Or at least make sure you usually are on fares that earns on A3 before switching. Deep discount econ SK fares earns 0 on A3 (but 1000 on SK).

So in short, you need to do your math. Take a couple of your past itineraries and calculate the miles you would have earned on A3. You will quickly get the picture.

^
Succinct, well-written. Good advice for many potential A3 ffp participants.

The "catch" is that the low tier threshold is on par with low earnings for the normal A3 flyer. Domestic A3 flights in econ earns flat 200 miles, ie you need 100 such segments to earn 20k miles.
It is only if you fly international longhaul on other *A airlines in fare classes that earns 100% or above on A3 the *G is easy.

If you mainly fly short Y on SK you may want to stay with EB. Or at least make sure you usually are on fares that earns on A3 before switching. Deep discount econ SK fares earns 0 on A3 (but 1000 on SK).

So in short, you need to do your math. Take a couple of your past itineraries and calculate the miles you would have earned on A3. You will quickly get the picture.
Good advice, but one small correction: On domestic flights supersaver earns 200, saver 500 and flexible 600 miles. Still, often the supersaver price turns out to be more expensive than the saver one. Go figure...

I'm still waiting for a couple of UA flights from (Dec. 27th) to credit to A3.
(The fare class definitely qualifies and the A3 number was on the boarding pass.)

Update 2:

UA: - flights are in their system; flights are eligible for accrual; according to UA's records, miles have already been credited to A3.

A3: - insists UA responded that the flights aren't eligible; A3 mentioned that the "I" on my boarding pass, which is for priority boarding, is the fare class and not eligible; most recent feedback is that I paid for an upgrade (which I didn't) and thus the original fare isn't eligible.

A copy of my boarding pass has been sent to UA, A3 and Star, so now continues the waiting game.

Hi Guys -

I recently got my Blue card in mail and was planning to use for additional baggage on domestic US flight. But this page doesn't list additional luggage as Silver benefit -

http://www.staralliance.com/en/benefits/status-benefits/gold-silver-status/

(scroll to bottom for Silver info.)

Am I missing something?

Hi Guys -

I recently got my Blue card in mail and was planning to use for additional baggage on domestic US flight. But this page doesn't list additional luggage as Silver benefit -

http://www.staralliance.com/en/benefits/status-benefits/gold-silver-status/

(scroll to bottom for Silver info.)

Am I missing something?

Extra baggage is not a alliance wide perk for *S. Did you expect it to be? Some airlines may give this perk unilaterally to *S, maybe you want to search for info from those airlines? (or wait around 'til a US-based FT'er comes around the A3 fora with the answer)

Hi Guys -

I recently got my Blue card in mail and was planning to use for additional baggage on domestic US flight. But this page doesn't list additional luggage as Silver benefit -

http://www.staralliance.com/en/benefits/status-benefits/gold-silver-status/

(scroll to bottom for Silver info.)

Am I missing something?

Both US and UA extend 1 free bag to Star Alliance Silver members.

It is not an alliance-wide perk - it only applies to specific carriers.

Both US and UA extend 1 free bag to Star Alliance Silver members.

It is not an alliance-wide perk - it only applies to specific carriers.



Thank You! ^

I've been trying to call the A3 contact number below for about the last week. The call is answered with a recording that states, "... Aegean Airlines, for English press 2." When I press 2, nothing happens and the recording just keeps repeating. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, have you found a solution.

A3 contact number: 011(+30) 210 6261000

Had the same issue calling from Bali last week. Their service is pitiful. Slow response time, and now this. I wanted to upgrade to business class but once again was unable to reach the airline.

I've been seeing a lot more United N fares around. Anyone gotten miles from them?

(not listed on Aegean's site, assumed 0 miles until I hear otherwise)

long time reader, first time poster.

Traveled last week RT from TLV-JFK. wanting to earn gold A*3 with Aegean, I flew Turkish instead of direct as the mileage chart on Aegean said 100% credit for all classes on Turkish and only 50% for United on a discounted coach fare. (as seen here (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#TURKISH))

Upon checking my Aegean account, I see I was credited for what I assume is 50% of the mileage flown (based on the great circle mapper here (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=tlv-ist-jfk) which shows 704 and 5016 for the two legs, respectively)

http://i48.tinypic.com/vn2zb8.jpg

My questions, two for the past and one for the future:

1) is the mileage credit wrong? or are they giving 100% of TK fllights, but Turkish themselves only giving less miles then the actual, and Aegean therefore only counts this mileage?

2) if the amount is wrong, do I have any action I can take that would be worth my while?

3) Would it have been better to route TLV-PHL-NYC (which was incidentally cheaper than just going TLV-PHL) with US Airways then doing the Turkish stop?

Hope I've posted this correctly, I value your time. Thank you for your insights!

Had the same issue calling from Bali last week. Their service is pitiful. Slow response time, and now this. I wanted to upgrade to business class but once again was unable to reach the airline.

do they have twitter or Facebook ?

it seems companies answer things when the whole world can see it !

do they have twitter or Facebook ?

it seems companies answer things when the whole world can see it !



Pos company . Got my hand cut by sharp object on one of their flights they
didn't even apologize . Lucky they didn't charge me for the on board
First Aid .

Tweeted about it .

They have no pride, nor concept of customer service . It's no wonder Greece owed 540 Billion Euros . And. I am Greek

Pos company . Got my hand cut by sharp object on one of their flights they
didn't even apologize . Lucky they didn't charge me for the on board
First Aid .

Tweeted about it .

They have no pride, nor concept of customer service . It's no wonder Greece owed 540 Billion Euros . And. I am Greek

Best example of Aristotelian logic, of course coming from a Greek:

1) Passenger hurts himself through sharp object and gets first aid on board.
2) The President of the company doesn't apologize.
3) This fully explains the national debt (which, by the way, is much lower, but who cares)!

Word of warning: Let's keep the discussion focused on everything to do with A3 and not stray into completely unrelated areas. Discussions of the state of the world economy won't be tolerated here, that's what OMNI is for. Any future transgression may result in posts being deleted.

starflyergold
Aegean Miles&Bonus forum mod team

Welcome to FT and the A3 forum tapuach :)

long time reader, first time poster.

Traveled last week RT from TLV-JFK. wanting to earn gold A*3 with Aegean, I flew Turkish instead of direct as the mileage chart on Aegean said 100% credit for all classes on Turkish and only 50% for United on a discounted coach fare. (as seen here (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/#TURKISH))

Upon checking my Aegean account, I see I was credited for what I assume is 50% of the mileage flown (based on the great circle mapper here (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=tlv-ist-jfk) which shows 704 and 5016 for the two legs, respectively)

...
My questions, two for the past and one for the future:

1) is the mileage credit wrong? or are they giving 100% of TK fllights, but Turkish themselves only giving less miles then the actual, and Aegean therefore only counts this mileage?

2) if the amount is wrong, do I have any action I can take that would be worth my while?

3) Would it have been better to route TLV-PHL-NYC (which was incidentally cheaper than just going TLV-PHL) with US Airways then doing the Turkish stop?

Hope I've posted this correctly, I value your time. Thank you for your insights!


According to your account activity, you flew T class for IST-JFK and TLV-IST.
According to the Aegean chart, T class earns 70% of mileage. Which seems correct with the miles credited to your account. (5016 x 70% = 3511 miles)

The TLV-IST ticket you had earlier was in V class, which earns 50% of mileage. Thus, you can see that TLV-IST (V class) = 346 miles; while IST-TLV (T class) = 484 miles.

So nothing seems wrong. I am not sure where you got the information that all Turkish flights earn 100%, as that is simply not true. Some earn 50%, some earn 70%, some earn 100%.

And yes, you should have flown US Airways as all fare classes earn 100% mileage.

I've been trying to call the A3 contact number below for about the last week. The call is answered with a recording that states, "... Aegean Airlines, for English press 2." When I press 2, nothing happens and the recording just keeps repeating. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, have you found a solution.

A3 contact number: 011(+30) 210 6261000
There is a report in another thread that the phone system has been fixed now and 2 for English is working again.

However, you probably could have proceeded to a "nonEnglish speaking" agent and asked to be transferred to someone who knows English. I would expect agents answering the regular line to know enough English to understand this request if stated simply and clearly. Most Europeans do know a bit of English even if they don't speak it fluently.

How good and quick is Aegean with retroactive credit? I couldn't find their policy for retroactive credit on partner flights anywhere.

I have a bunch of reservations on US Airways. I am not sure whether to credit them to United or Aegean or US Airways. My plan is to hold on to them and at the year end ask for retroactive credit with whatever airline I want to achieve status on. Am I missing something?

Chapter 5, section 2, number 7 of T&C (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/terms-conditions/) regarding retro credit for *A flight says

...The application is processed by Aegean within 14 calendar days from its submission, while the corresponding miles will be credited to the Member's Account after two (2) weeks, at the latest, upon a reply from the Star Alliance member-carrier that executed the flight in question. ...

So they promise to send the request to the operating carrier within 2 weeks and to credit the account within 2 weeks of that carrier's positive response.

I personally have had one case of retrocredit (TK operating) and it took around 2-3 weeks.
There are some reports around here on slow posting, and in most (all?) cases this has been due to op. carrier not responding or responding negatively. SA and a few others seems to be *A bad boys in this catregory.

I have a bunch of reservations on US Airways. I am not sure whether to credit them to United or Aegean or US Airways. My plan is to hold on to them and at the year end ask for retroactive credit with whatever airline I want to achieve status on. Am I missing something?

In A3 Terms and Conditions (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/terms-conditions/), "MILES ACCRUAL FROM STAR-ALLIANCE FLIGHTS", point 7:


Existing Miles&Bonus members can claim their miles retroactively for flights that took place up to 12 months prior to their retro-claim request (exception: Air New Zealand, LOT Polish, South Africa Airways and TAP Portugal, for which retro-claim is viable for flights taken place up to 6 months prior to retro-claim request).


So for your US reservations you should be able to wait until the end of the year to claim the miles with A3. You should check the respective programs of UA and US to see how old flights you can retro-claim with them.

You might also want to check the status of the AA-US merger - if you wait too long with the retro-claim, you might only be able to get OW miles (or possible only AA/US miles) for your US flights?

Thanks MSPeconomist for the phone number update & info.

I would like some clarification please before I call Aegean.

On my PNR, the flight is listed as AC XX05 (marketed carrier), but this changes to UA XX86 (operating carrier) on my boarding pass. Which number do I mention to the Aegean agent, the AC or the UA number?

Thanks MSPeconomist for the phone number update & info.

I would like some clarification please before I call Aegean.

On my PNR, the flight is listed as AC XX05 (marketed carrier), but this changes to UA XX86 (operating carrier) on my boarding pass. Which number do I mention to the Aegean agent, the AC or the UA number?

If your flight is code share with UA, then either of them is OK, however if it's not, then use the carrier's flight number.

You should use the operating flight number (the one on your boarding pass) for retrocredit.

My Miles will expire on March 10th..This Year! So my Question is: Is there any Possibility to extend them? Without flying :)

Maybe there is any free Mile?

My Miles will expire on March 10th..This Year! So my Question is: Is there any Possibility to extend them? Without flying :)

Maybe there is any free Mile?

Are you talking about tier miles?
No, there is no way of extending them. They will always expire 12 months after credit. That is the normal way of this program, to ensure there is a rolling 12-month qualification period.

Are you talking about tier miles?
No, there is no way of extending them.

I see...Thank you for your Help!

Is there anything to do with these 2000 Miles? Ok, there's no Flight, but maybe something else?

1) Does the 4 year expiration on *G status still apply if Aegean gold is earned in 2013?

2) Is it possible to add an A3 freq flyer number to my United reservation while still keeping it tied to my premier status for upgrades?

3) Could I retroactively move flights that were credited to UA to Aegean?

1) Does the 4 year expiration on *G status still apply if Aegean gold is earned in 2013?

2) Is it possible to add an A3 freq flyer number to my United reservation while still keeping it tied to my premier status for upgrades?

3) Could I retroactively move flights that were credited to UA to Aegean?

1) It should (it's actually 3 years, not 4) provided that your account remains active. Since no one is up for renewal until this summer, there will be new info then.

2) There are threads out there about that that you should search for. Not sure about UA, but it often works for AC. Just need to find a willing GA.

3) In principle, yes. Realistically, no. That would require removing UA credit and having UA write a letter to A3 stating that they did so. You would be hard pressed to find a MP/UA staff member who would be willing to go through all that work for you.

1) Does the 4 year expiration on *G status still apply if Aegean gold is earned in 2013?

2) Is it possible to add an A3 freq flyer number to my United reservation while still keeping it tied to my premier status for upgrades?

3) Could I retroactively move flights that were credited to UA to Aegean?

No reason to ask the same questions twice!

Pos company . Got my hand cut by sharp object on one of their flights they
didn't even apologize . Lucky they didn't charge me for the on board
First Aid .

Tweeted about it .



Update. Just got a call from Aegean in NYC today Re cut hand. They gave me a
free RT anywhere they fly from Greece

I apologize for earlier comments. They did the right thing in the end !

Update. Just got a call from Aegean in NYC today Re cut hand. They gave me a
free RT anywhere they fly from Greece

I apologize for earlier comments. They did the right thing in the end !

A3 has an office in the US? That's news to me.

Anyways, does anyone know how often A3 prints new cards? I believe I read that it was once a month at the end of the month. Does anyone know if this is still the case or if it has changed?

They still print at the end of the month, but they've randomly skipped a few months here and there for no predictable reason.

Has anyone had any success crediting zrh-lug flights on Darwin Airlines (apparently wet-leased by Swiss) to A3? Crediting to M&M doesn't seem to be a problem, but I'm not actively collecting those anymore.

I can't seem to find a clear answer to this, my apologies if it's been asked before.

UA has Standard Economy award availability on the travel days I want for a domestic (United States) RT award, but no Saver availability. Will A3 book an award using Standard availability with UA, or is it restricted to Saver awards?

Thanks in advance!

A3 can only book Starnet availability, which is less than or equal to saver availability.

The only way to know for sure is to look at the website of a non-marketing carrier, and see if saver availability is available.

I'm flying TLV-LHR in three weeks, probably via Turkish, although i'm fine with any star alliance carrier. (may 26-30)

I currently have 13207 Award Miles with Aegean, and my next trip after this is TLV-NYC, for which I would like to achieve Star alliance gold for the gold benefits (mainly priority boarding and three pieces of luggage.)

My question is: How can I use this trip to get the required number of miles to get me to Gold status?

the great circle mapper shows the number of miles between TLV-IST-LHR-IST-TLV as 4538 miles. but with only some miles crediting (50-70%) for each leg (V,V,Q,Q classes?) I would be just under the number of miles i need.... (although if they credit the way TO TLV-JFK fast enough, my return would be Gold on United...)

- Do I travel Business Class? Or Coach in a higher fare class?
- Have I missed anything? buying the miles not through flying if i'm so close to the mark?
- I can fly direct with British or El Al, but neither is a member of the Star alliance. unless they have a codeshare that is, which would get me credit in star alliance and enable me to take a different routing or something like that?

I hope I've given enough detail. trying to absorb all this information and grateful for your help. I hope to pay it forward in the future. Thank you!

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I hope to pay it forward in the future. Thank you!

I gather you want 6793 award miles (20000-13207) by flying approx 4538 miles. That means you need to earn at 150% (6793/4538). Flying TK that means you need Business fare. As the TK chart is to be updated on the 27th., you need to keep good notice of the fare classes - your outbound must be on C, D or J, your inbound must be on C, D or K.

However, TK does not credit miles as per great circle distance. They have a proprietary table for distances, and from what I can find, TLV-IST-LHR r/t is considered 4498 miles. If this is correct you may only earn 6747.

So you probably should look for another *A carrier. You know, A3 services both TLV and LHR...

And there are a number of other *A connections, via FRA, MUC, CPH, TXL,...

...So you probably should look for another *A carrier. You know, A3 services both TLV and LHR...A3 in Business would yield 8000 miles, and often the price is just a tiny bit higher than flexible coach. Provided, of course, that the connection in ATH is possible, or that one doesn't loose too much time waiting for the next flight.

- - I can fly direct with British or El Al, but neither is a member of the Star alliance. unless they have a codeshare that is, which would get me credit in star alliance and enable me to take a different routing or something like that?


No code share. And even if there was it woulden't work.
I flew TLV-ZRH-LCY LCY is very comfortable but the ticket is very expensive.

Hi all:

I just signed up for the Aegean program and am doing some mileage runs to achieve the low tier (*Silver) on Aegean and to fly some United miles to keep my status up (I am Silver on United this year but have not traveled much at all).

I'd like to make sure that my thinking is correct here.

I am making a mileage run (all United flights) which involves a short hop (MRY-LAX) and then a long hop LAX-MCO, then a return MCO-IAH-LAX-MRY. Later in May, I will be doing a short all-in-California mileage run MRY-SFO-LAX-SAN--then back. My questions are:

1. From the Aegean web page showing fare classes and mileage credited, I see that the minimum for my short hops on the second mileage run will be 500 miles per segment (class G). So for the six short hops, I will get 500 miles each segment, for a total of 3000 miles credited to my Aegean account. Is this right? I know that as a United Silver member, I can use the same thinking and get 3000 EQM miles for those six short hops.

2. A previous poster on these FAQ pages wrote:
You can use one frequent flyer program (FFP) for the flights in one direction and a different FFP for the return flights on the same ticketed itinerary. On some ticketed itineraries, I have credited each flight segment to a different program from the previous flights flown on the ticketed itinerary. It usually works out well for me, but sometimes there is some confusion and the outcome is messed up a bit. Requesting retroactive flight credit may help make things more reliable, but not always either.

But my travel agent (who is really good) says:
To try to answer your question about getting partial Aegean credit on a
certain reservation. Bottom line - it'll be difficult. I don't think you
can register two partner frequent flyer accounts on one reservation or
segment by segment, and I believe that if you have a UA number a UA
reservation that'll override whatever else is entered. I could be wrong,
but I think that's how it works.

So I have two questions:
a. I am a United Silver member. However, I can choose to give United my Aegean membership number to credit the miles for a flight toward my Aegean account, right? I am almost certain that I can but hope forum members can confirm.
b. It seems from the previous poster, that I can fly my entire outbound flights from MRY to MCO, and have all those miles credited to my Aegean account. But trying to credit just one segment, for instance, only the MRY-LAX and the LAX-MRY segments to Aegean; and crediting the rest to United, might cause confusion and unknown outcomes...Perhaps best to be safe and just try to credit the entire outbound flight to Aegean, and the entire return to United? I'd appreciate any insights that anyone has.

a) Yes, you can state your A3 number as your FF program for a UA flight. I am not familiar with UA, but usually there is a drop-down + text field to add number from *A programs.

b) Again, not familiar with UA, but some programs are very "sticky". Once added, the airline will try to be "helpful" and the main program will override all attempts to exchange it for another. Naturally for UA, if you have UA program they'll think you would want to credit there.
My advice if you really want to credit separate segments to different programs is to not add any number to the booking and then later ask for retro credit on each program. But htere are risks to this method too.

I just discovered how to fast track to Star Alliance Gold with Aegean.. wow.. where was this forum/tip all these years...

Hi there
I have just gained enough points for Gold - points which are now finally showing in my account after a week's delay. However, whilst I wait for my card to arrive in the post, I need to be able to print out a paper copy of my new Gold card for a Hertz car rental (one category upgrade) tomorrow. When I click CARD PRINT I only see the old white card with no mention of Gold. Am I missing something here? Is there some other way of printing out a Gold card. Should my account also state Gold somewhere - it doesn't at the moment although I have over 20,000 tier miles.
Thanks

Hi there
I have just gained enough points for Gold - points which are now finally showing in my account after a week's delay. However, whilst I wait for my card to arrive in the post, I need to be able to print out a paper copy of my new Gold card for a Hertz car rental (one category upgrade) tomorrow. When I click CARD PRINT I only see the old white card with no mention of Gold. Am I missing something here? Is there some other way of printing out a Gold card. Should my account also state Gold somewhere - it doesn't at the moment although I have over 20,000 tier miles.
Thanks

You need to wait 1 day for your account to update to gold. You can't print a gold card, but see this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegean-airlines-miles-bonus/1462767-digital-a3-card-graphic-artist-wanted.html). You can try using the Gold CDP for Hertz but otherwise you'll need to log in to your account to convince the agent you're gold.

b. It seems from the previous poster, that I can fly my entire outbound flights from MRY to MCO, and have all those miles credited to my Aegean account. But trying to credit just one segment, for instance, only the MRY-LAX and the LAX-MRY segments to Aegean; and crediting the rest to United, might cause confusion and unknown outcomes...Perhaps best to be safe and just try to credit the entire outbound flight to Aegean, and the entire return to United? I'd appreciate any insights that anyone has.

UA's system will credit the miles to whichever number is in the system at time of credit. This means that if you fly ABC-DEF-HIJ on a single date on UA, and have 1 FFN in the system for the ABC-DEF segment and another in for the DEF-HIJ segment, the number in for the DEF-HIJ segment will recieve all the miles.

The only way to get around this is to not put an FFN in the system, and retrocredit segments seperately from each program.

The only way to get around this is to not put an FFN in the system, and retrocredit segments seperately from each program.

Thanks for the tip. I've gone to the UAL site and can see where one enters his FF number in a pulldown menu. However, I can't see a way to "not put a FFN in the system". Do I ask a gate agent to do this or call, or is there a way to do this online? The UAL site always fills in my UAL FF number regardless of what I do; unless I choose my Aegean number which I don't want to do for the upcoming flight (except for two short segments).

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip. I've gone to the UAL site and can see where one enters his FF number in a pulldown menu. However, I can't see a way to "not put a FFN in the system". Do I ask a gate agent to do this or call, or is there a way to do this online? The UAL site always fills in my UAL FF number regardless of what I do; unless I choose my Aegean number which I don't want to do for the upcoming flight (except for two short segments).

Thanks!

Just call and tell them to remove your frequent flyer number.

I booked a trip using US Airways dividend miles that includes a leg on Aegean. Not only did I not find Aegean on seatguru, but I couldn't even find a US phone number for Aegean on their website! Can anyone advise me on how I can select seats for an Aegean flight?

Thanks for any help, advice or direction you can offer.

I couldn't even find a US phone number for Aegean on their website! Can anyone advise me on how I can select seats for an Aegean flight?

From what I've understood, at least A3 M&B (the FFP) does not have a US phone number, and it might be that the same applies to Aegean in general. Calling their Greek phone number using Skype is always an option to avoid international phone rates, but the Greek office hours might be less than convenient for you if you're not based in Europe.

I'm afraid I can't help regarding your seat reservation question - if you're flying in J I assume it should be possible, but a number of European airlines do not allow seat reservation before check-in if you're traveling in Y.

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I'm afraid I can't help regarding your seat reservation question - if you're flying in J I assume it should be possible, but a number of European airlines do not allow seat reservation before check-in if you're traveling in Y.

Actually this info is a help. Since it is just a short flight, and we are flying coach, it may not be worth the work to get seat assignments ahead of time, even though it will be the 5th (and last) leg of a long trip. It also makes what TK told me - call back a week before - more understandable. Thanks!

No way you can reserve a seat with Aegean, neither online nor by calling them, neither in J nor in C. On the other hand, you can check-in online 48 hours before the flight departs, and my experience so far (~400 flights) is that even at -40 hours 99% of the seats are still "free". Of course, Murphy's law can apply! ;)

Thanks, this is most helpful. I will just wait until 2 days before and try then. Thanks again.

Thanks, this is most helpful. I will just wait until 2 days before and try then. Thanks again.
Just remember the time difference between the US and Greece! At any rate, in 90% of my bookings, I got an email reminder exactly at -48 hours. If you fly in C, try to get either an emergency exit or a seat in rows <5 (leg space).

The flight was booked by US Air as an award ticket, so I may not get an email.... But I will try to remember to do it! Thanks again!

A little question...
I checked in at Brussels airport yesterday for my positioning flight for the tk waw-ist-kul business ticket. Despite having put my Aegean number in the booking (LOT site) I asked to verify at checkin. I always do that because I hate the process of retroclaiming. When I handed my M&B card, it failed to scan. So they asked me the ff code of Aegean (you would expect they know their own alliance codes) and even with that a3 in front, the computer said 'no'. Well, actually ' card denied by carrier'. So booked it on my M&M instead. Anyone ever had an issue to book lot flights in a3? Or is this due to a bad checkin agent?

Hi -- I flew United a couple of weeks ago and would like to have Aegean's program credit my short hops on United flights to their program. The flights are MRY (Monterey, CA) to SFO or LAX. I know that I need to wait 14 days to apply for a retroactive credit. I've waited, and I've gone to the Miles and Points website to apply for the retroactive credit. The website has a pulldown menu for the originating and destination airports. Major airports such as SFO and LAX are included in the pulldown menu, but not small airports like MRY. I have a message into A3 customer service about this, but does anyone know if a short hop like MRY-SFO or MRY-LAX will be credited to the Aegean program (their website says minimum 500 miles for United flights). If they will credit short United flights (actually United Express), how does one fill in an airport if it is not listed in the pulldown menu? Thanks.

Hi -- I flew United a couple of weeks ago and would like to have Aegean's program credit my short hops on United flights to their program. The flights are MRY (Monterey, CA) to SFO or LAX. I know that I need to wait 14 days to apply for a retroactive credit. I've waited, and I've gone to the Miles and Points website to apply for the retroactive credit. The website has a pulldown menu for the originating and destination airports. Major airports such as SFO and LAX are included in the pulldown menu, but not small airports like MRY. I have a message into A3 customer service about this, but does anyone know if a short hop like MRY-SFO or MRY-LAX will be credited to the Aegean program (their website says minimum 500 miles for United flights). If they will credit short United flights (actually United Express), how does one fill in an airport if it is not listed in the pulldown menu? Thanks.

They will credit as long as it is not an N fare. For requesting credit, emailing is about the best you can do, as most regional airports aren't on that list. For the future, if you add your account before flying, it's usually not an issue, as I've had GRR, FNT, and MYR among others credit no problem that would not have been on there.

Hopefully A3 adds them for you soon enough.

Hi,
I just reached 5000 miles after my last flight, but when I log into my account it still said that I am a general member instead of Blue. How long does it usually take for A3 to renew my status?

Hi,
I just reached 5000 miles after my last flight, but when I log into my account it still said that I am a general member instead of Blue. How long does it usually take for A3 to renew my status?

Usually one day after the miles are posted to your account.