Thailand - Cruel treatment of elephants for camps




Allvest
Aug 12, 12, 12:38 pm
Disturbing evidence of cruel treatment of elephant calves destined for camps and tourist attractions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176957/The-agonising-blows-expose-evil-secrets-Thailands-elephant-tourism-The-Duchess-Cornwalls-brother-tells-baby-elephants-brutally-starved-tortured.html#ixzz21Jpby7X2

Please make sure your camp visits are to legitimate operators only.

Don't support the horrible mass tourism attractions, especially on Phuket.

Read about Sriracha Tiger Zoo, a place I am proud to say I have never visited
http://blog.petaasiapacific.com/animals-in-entertainment/appalling-animal-attractions-part-2-sriracha-tiger-zoo-pattaya-thailand


DHSGemini
Aug 12, 12, 12:47 pm
Thanks for spreading the word.

phlashba
Aug 12, 12, 2:24 pm
Be sure and tell your hotel or camp that you do not support the use of baby elephants as entertainment! :mad:
Thanks for posting about this important issue.


soarer
Aug 13, 12, 1:36 pm
thats one of the better things that has happened in central Bangkok in the last few years , getting rid of the elephants on the street ,

No idea where they went , but being on city streets was not the place to be , bad for traffic and bad for the elephants !

Soarer

tezzer
Aug 16, 12, 9:39 am
My youngest is doing a few weeks voluntary work on a camp in Thailand now, the abuse these animals (and others) are subjected to is unreal. She witnessed a local car stop alongside an elephant on the road this week and a local car stopped and would down a window. The elephoant, conditioned to think it was about to be fed opened it's mouth, and in went a 3 litre empty plastic bottle "for a laugh". The vet's prognosis, it MIGHT pass through, but highly unlikely, what is much more probable is that the animal will suffer weeks and weeks of agony, before dying from malnutrition and dehydration. Oh, and this was in a National Park.

Allvest
Aug 16, 12, 7:40 pm
My youngest is doing a few weeks voluntary work on a camp in Thailand now, the abuse these animals (and others) are subjected to is unreal. She witnessed a local car stop alongside an elephant on the road this week and a local car stopped and would down a window. The elephoant, conditioned to think it was about to be fed opened it's mouth, and in went a 3 litre empty plastic bottle "for a laugh". The vet's prognosis, it MIGHT pass through, but highly unlikely, what is much more probable is that the animal will suffer weeks and weeks of agony, before dying from malnutrition and dehydration. Oh, and this was in a National Park.

The problem in Thailand is that the civilized citizens will not stand up and do something about these thugs and low lifes and so this keeps going on without consequence. Similar issues in the dog meat trade across the Lao border. It's sickening. There is weak animal cruelty legislation and almost no enforcement.

dsquared37
Aug 16, 12, 8:41 pm
The problem in Thailand is that the civilized citizens will not stand up and do something about these thugs and low lifes and so this keeps going on without consequence.

Correct, because they keep getting elected into gov. ;)


Similar issues in the dog meat trade across the Lao border. It's sickening. There is weak animal cruelty legislation and almost no enforcement.

Are you saying people shouldn't eat dog meat or that this particular trade is cruel? The two are quite different.

Allvest
Aug 17, 12, 5:47 am
Correct, because they keep getting elected into gov. ;)




Are you saying people shouldn't eat dog meat or that this particular trade is cruel? The two are quite different.

They can eat any meat for all I care (I don't eat any meat but that's a different story). However the cruelty of catching (stealing too), confining, torturing and transporting those animals is very sad to follow.

I don't want to go OT so let's just get back to the point of asking tourists to enjoy elephant camps with care and open eyes. Or best, not at all.

PS: I haven't taken my kids to an animal circus as well...similar issues.

dsquared37
Aug 17, 12, 6:41 am
I don't want to go OT so let's just get back to the point of asking tourists to enjoy elephant camp with care and open eyes. Or best, not at all.

PS: u haven't taken my kids to an animal circus as well...similar issues.

That is correct. I have not taken your kids to the circus. there would be big problems for both of us if I had. ;):p

On the point of skipping elephant camps I concur.

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Aug 28, 12, 8:26 am
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jasonvr
Sep 12, 12, 7:54 pm
Disturbing evidence of cruel treatment of elephant calves destined for camps and tourist attractions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176957/The-agonising-blows-expose-evil-secrets-Thailands-elephant-tourism-The-Duchess-Cornwalls-brother-tells-baby-elephants-brutally-starved-tortured.html#ixzz21Jpby7X2

Please make sure your camp visits are to legitimate operators only.

Don't support the horrible mass tourism attractions, especially on Phuket.

Agree on all points, especially the legitimate operators point. One needs to remember though, not all camps are evil. My wife and I spent 3 days and 2 nights living/working at Elephantstay at the Royal Elephant Kraal in Ayutthaya and it was an amazing experience. The elephants are well cared for and they have a thriving breeding program (53 babies so far) and rescue program, including "killer" elephants that would otherwise have been put down. Their elephants were even involved in debris removal and body recovery after the tsunami in 2004.

The staff there truly love the elephants. While we were there there was even a university research group on site doing a study to validate methods being used to study and conserve the Malaysian elephant. http://www.meme-elephants.org/meme_home.html



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