Hyatt Gold Passport - Park Hyatt Tokyo or Conrad Tokyo?

I am looking for suggestion.... which will be a better hotel to stay for leisure purposes, PH Tokyo or Conrad Tokyo? I am Diamond for both programs.

Thanks.

It is the Park Hyatt.

Well, if I think about a second time, it is actually the Conrad.

No, wait, I still go with the Park Hyatt.

It is the Park Hyatt, but the Conrad is also good.

I stayed at the Park Hyatt Tokyo a month ago and it was amazing! However, I am going to try Conrad Tokyo next time for one or two nights (with the rest of the week in PH Tokyo of course). I don't think you can go wrong with either one...

The only big difference is the location (PH Tokyo is at Shinjuku - West while Conrad Tokyo is at Ginza - East). It all boils down to your personal preferences for the location.

The folks in the luxury hotel forum are not currently putting either at the absolute top for Tokyo -- the Conrad because it doesn't seem to have the highest level of service and the PH because, well, it's not new (although you'd never realize it staying there).

Unless you are incredibly picky, you will have an outstanding experience at either hotel. My choice is the PH, but I am a bit biased as I seem to have essentially adopted the hotel as my own!

If you've never been to either, definitely choose the Park Hyatt Tokyo. Unless you really wish to have easy access to Odaiba, in which case the Conrad wins hands down.

Casting a vote for the PHT. Something special about that hotel that I can't really put my finger on, while the Conrad is simply a "nice hotel."

Honestly, I had more fun at the GH Tokyo in the Roppongi Hills area.

But I am biased b/c we were upgraded to the 2799 sq ft Pres suite...it was an amazing room with a private rooftop pool. And we were using 2 CC suite nights. That aside, the lounge was excellent: always seating area available, good food/drink, and wonderful, diverse staff who all appeared to speak very good English.

I stayed at both the Conrad and the PHT last year, same visit. I had HH Gold status for the Conrad (basically just got me continental breakfast) and Hyatt Diamond status for my 2 one night stays at the PHT.

INO, the PHT is hands down a far nicer property that the Conrad, and the Conrad is a nice property. It's not just the rooms, etc, which IMO are nicer at the PHT, it's the entire ambience of the property, including the service, the staff, the NY Bar, and pretty much everything else. Conrad was very nice, just not, IMO, in the same class as the PHT. And the service there was great too.

They are in vastly different parts of Tokyo.

Conrad Tokyo (https://picasaweb.google.com/106681454868280164799/ConradTokyoFeb2012?authuser=0)

PHT Suite Upgrade (https://picasaweb.google.com/106681454868280164799/ParkHyattTokyoSuiteUpgrade?authuser=0)

PHT Upgraded (corner?) room (https://picasaweb.google.com/106681454868280164799/ParkHyattTokyo2012UpgradedAwardRoom?authuser=0)

-David

You're asking this in the Hyatt forum, of course most people vote for PH.;)

IMO, service is better at the PH. Decor is more or less the same. Location is better at the Conrad (better restaurants nearby in Ginza).

FYI, Jetsetter has the Conrad as their Tokyo mystery hotel for 340/night ai if you are paying out of pocket and it includes breakfast.

FYI, Jetsetter has the Conrad as their Tokyo mystery hotel for 340/night ai if you are paying out of pocket and it includes breakfast.

You can beat that rate at the Park Hyatt by using an Inspire level Hyatt Stay Certificate (doesn't include breakfast unless you're a Diamond though...)

Both are very good hotels.

I stayed at both of these properties earlier this year. As a Diamond in both Hyatt GP and Hilton HH, I prefer the Conrad because of the executive lounge access.

I am biased toward the PHT too.

But, that said, I have noticed some service lapses in the PHT, and GHT during my recent stays at both hotels. The GHT did a better job of service recovery than the PHT (yes, the lapses at the GHT were bigger, but the recovery was a lot better too).

If I were to choose between the two hotels, I'd probably choose the GHT more because of my experience, despite the fact that I actually like the hard product at the PHT a lot more than the GHT.

Really can't go wrong with either...so the location may be a deciding factor for you. Only the Conrad has duckies though. :p
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FYI, Jetsetter has the Conrad as their Tokyo mystery hotel for 340/night ai if you are paying out of pocket and it includes breakfast.

You can beat that rate at the Park Hyatt by using an Inspire level Hyatt Stay Certificate (doesn't include breakfast unless you're a Diamond though...)
Jetsetter is now from $290/night.

Hmm...if the Inspire level cert is $319, does that mean that's how much 22K points are worth?

Now I'm having a similar dilemma - should I book the Conrad for $290 and save my points for places like PH Vendome or Maldives? Since Inspire level includes PH Tokyo and not those two - does that put those two hotels above PH Tokyo?

What's the Jetsetters Refund policy?

If you are traveling in peak days and they have availability, then Conrad is a better bet for you. Also having stay at PH / GH and Conrad myself, PH is the bottom one of my list, mostly due to the location. If you plan to travel via subway, PH is definitely the worst location while GH is right on top of the Roppongi Station and Conrad is at Shiodome. Able to walk to Tsukiji Market in the morning is a big plus for me too.

What's the Jetsetters Refund policy?

If you are traveling in peak days and they have availability, then Conrad is a better bet for you. Also having stay at PH / GH and Conrad myself, PH is the bottom one of my list, mostly due to the location. If you plan to travel via subway, PH is definitely the worst location while GH is right on top of the Roppongi Station and Conrad is at Shiodome. Able to walk to Tsukiji Market in the morning is a big plus for me too.
Didn't see the refund policy.

I thought the PH location was OK, and the hotel and room had more WOW factor than at the Conrad. But walking distance to Tsukiji was definitely very convenient, as I can have sushi every meal!

Jetsetter is now from $290/night.

Hmm...if the Inspire level cert is $319, does that mean that's how much 22K points are worth?

Now I'm having a similar dilemma - should I book the Conrad for $290 and save my points for places like PH Vendome or Maldives? Since Inspire level includes PH Tokyo and not those two - does that put those two hotels above PH Tokyo?

I just picked a few random dates in Aug and Sept and the only Tokyo hotels that appeared on Jetsetter were the MO and the Shangri-La, at $500-600 a night. How do you get the Conrad to appear?

The PH situation reflects the Tokyo economy -- if you know how to search properly, pretty much all of the Tokyo luxury hotels are discounting. Price levels in Paris for luxury hotels are considerably higher although as a recession settles in, that could change. If you will be travelling to Europe, right now you should save your points for Paris, Milan, Moscow, or Zurich. Another great use of points is at the PH Sydney.

I just picked a few random dates in Aug and Sept and the only Tokyo hotels that appeared on Jetsetter were the MO and the Shangri-La, at $500-600 a night. How do you get the Conrad to appear?

The PH situation reflects the Tokyo economy -- if you know how to search properly, pretty much all of the Tokyo luxury hotels are discounting. Price levels in Paris for luxury hotels are considerably higher although as a recession settles in, that could change. If you will be travelling to Europe, right now you should save your points for Paris, Milan, Moscow, or Zurich. Another great use of points is at the PH Sydney.
Conrad is the Mystery Hotel. But it looks like the dates that I want are $310+taxes and fees. Just found the cancellation policy - no charge if 7 days prior.

I have a stay at the Vendome next May and still some points left for a few more nights. Hmm...Moscow sounds intriguing...

Conrad is the Mystery Hotel. But it looks like the dates that I want are $310+taxes and fees. Just found the cancellation policy - no charge if 7 days prior.

I have a stay at the Vendome next May and still some points left for a few more nights. Hmm...Moscow sounds intriguing...

I didn't get a mystery hotel on my search, it must be date specific.

At one point, Moscow was the most expensive Hyatt for a standard room. Might still be true. The annoyance (at least for US citizens) is that the Russian visa process is a real pain.

http://www.jetsetter.com/hotels/japan/tokyo/2414/a-tokyo-mystery-hotel?nm=collection&cl=4 here you can book up to end of the December.

http://www.jetsetter.com/hotels/japan/tokyo/2414/a-tokyo-mystery-hotel?nm=collection&cl=4 here you can book up to end of the December.

Thanks, I see it now, it's listed AFTER Tokyo in a separate category. This would be a good deal in the $300-320 range. Not all dates are available, although the ones that aren't seem rather randomly selected. PH rates are running on the order of $550. Amex FHR is in the same general price range but gets you an upgrade and breakfast.

Sorry, i should have been a bit more specific in my post about the Jetsetter rate.

I booked 4 days 3 of which are no longer available at 308 + tax which works out to 345 per night. Not bad in my opinion as it is over a weekend and includes breakfast for 2. We will see about getting a HH gold upgrade to executive lounge, but I am not holding my breath.

Also the room is a City view, and they had no problem adding in my HH gold number to the reservation. I just hope they don't give me an issue about free internet since I got a discount rate.

Honestly, I had more fun at the GH Tokyo in the Roppongi Hills area.

But I am biased b/c we were upgraded to the 2799 sq ft Pres suite...it was an amazing room with a private rooftop pool. And we were using 2 CC suite nights. That aside, the lounge was excellent: always seating area available, good food/drink, and wonderful, diverse staff who all appeared to speak very good English.

I see that you are HH Gold - did you get full lounge access at the Conrad as a gold?

I have a stay coming up in Tokyo and chose the Conrad over the Park Hyatt...PH is excellent but I have stayed there before, so I wanted to try something new, plus it is less than 1/2 mile from the fish market.

I see that you are HH Gold - did you get full lounge access at the Conrad as a gold?

I have a stay coming up in Tokyo and chose the Conrad over the Park Hyatt...PH is excellent but I have stayed there before, so I wanted to try something new, plus it is less than 1/2 mile from the fish market.

Location/Luxury wise it is hard to beat the Conrad for me.

Will be back to Tokyo in a couple months and this time I'm trying both! Will update this thread with my experiences in these hotels as both Hyatt and Hilton Diamond :)

I've stayed at both hotels suites as a Diamond and loved them both. Service was top notch at both hotels.

I would give the nod to the PHT for its breakfast, especially the Japanese one. But the Conrad has the Exec Lounge with wonderful free drinks and appetizers in the evening. The appetizers rotate from the different hotel restaurants - e.g. Gordon Ramsay one night, Japanese another night, etc.

Our suite at the PHT had a view of Mount Fuji. PHT also lets you request complimentary mini-Shisheido toiletries. The Conrad has the bears and the rubber duckies (as mentioned by someone else) and a better location. It is near the fish market, Ginza, and the trains.

The Conrad will always hold a special place in my heart because I was staying there during the 2011 earthquake. Every staff person expressed a genuine concern for the guests to ensure that everything operated smoothly.

If I had to choose, I would probably alternate between the two hotels.

PHT for a great hotel, try Cajun Tuna at NYC grill:) great in room BF as diamond.....great pool, yoga lessons....so much to tell....