JetBlue TrueBlue - Does the Embraer have new Even More Rows?
GrnMtnMan
Jul 30, 12, 12:24 pm
I was just checking seats for an upcoming trip and saw something strange: the seat map clearly shows my flight is on an ERJ, but it now shows that rows 12-14 & 1 are Even More rows, not just row 12 & 1.
I've checked everywhere easy-to-access on JetBlue's website, Google-ed, and searched this message board, but don't see any announcement of this change.
One of these flights used to be on the A320, but the equipment was swapped out a couple months ago.
Is this an impending change? A software error?
JetBlueFA
Jul 30, 12, 3:12 pm
No it is not a mistake. The 190's have been reconfigured to add rows 13-14 to the EMS section. The change has been quietly done over the last few months. About a month ago the seats went into an airport block to only allow day of assignment. Starting August 1st the 8 new seats on the 190 will be available for sale and purchase. Up until now customers got access to the new seats without paying because the fleet wasn't fully configured yet. As the planes went in for reconfiguration they also got the new updated remote controls.
octr202
Jul 31, 12, 6:40 am
Does that change the seat pitch on the rows behind the exit row? I've always selected seats in the back when I'm not in a hurry so I can get the rumored extra inch of legroom (plus I know row 20 has windows that line up and I get to board in the first group).
GrnMtnMan
Jul 31, 12, 7:05 am
Thanks for the update.
Starting August 1st the 8 new seats on the 190 will be available for sale and purchase.I was able to buy them yesterday....did so mostly as an experiment, but happy with the outcome.
Backstory: I had purchased the EMS seats on the flight that was originally on the A320. But when it was switched to the E190, I got a refund beacuse I'm traveling with the wife, 5 year old, and 2 year old (who travels in an installed car seat). That keeps us out of the exit rows, and only 2 of us could be accommodated in row 1...row 2 was already filled (or is it not available for preassignment?). Splitting us up beacuse of the equipment change wasn't really fair, so I was given a refund on the EMS purchase.
Now we can have the EMS seats on both legs of the trip, which is the good outcome.
patiolanterns
Jul 31, 12, 10:27 am
Can anyone who has flown this new configuration comment on the effect to the nearby seats? Anything impacted (legroom or recline) directly in front or behind these EMS rows?
JCK75
Jul 31, 12, 10:54 am
Can anyone who has flown this new configuration comment on the effect to the nearby seats? Anything impacted (legroom or recline) directly in front or behind these EMS rows?
I'm pretty sure they got rid of the "extra" legroom at the back of the plane to create these seats.
JetBlueFA
Jul 31, 12, 11:01 am
Due to the exit row location and our seating configuration the rows behind the exit row had 2 extra inches of room than the seats in front of the exit row. We just moved the rows behind the exit row back so the non-ems seats are now equal in space through out the entire cabin.
Row 2 and Row 25 are now blocked for airport assignment. They are blocked for wheelchair customers or other special needs customers and row 25 is usually blocked for our UM's so a flight attendant can keep an eye on them. You can still ask for row 2 and 25 once you get to the airport and, if available, the agent will assign them to you.
patiolanterns
Jul 31, 12, 11:08 am
I'm pretty sure they got rid of the "extra" legroom at the back of the plane to create these seats.
Yeah, I'm sure that you are right. Bad news for passengers overall - Taking away free extra legroom for paid legroom. Another inch and the e190 is at the same 31" pitch as many other carriers and Jetblue would have to stop advertising that they have more space.
If pitch is now the same on all seats, I guess I'm also curious if there are any new seats to avoid - limited recline, seats with even more reduced pitch, or misaligned windows
JetBlueFA
Jul 31, 12, 1:17 pm
Yeah, I'm sure that you are right. Bad news for passengers overall - Taking away free extra legroom for paid legroom. Another inch and the e190 is at the same 31" pitch as many other carriers and Jetblue would have to stop advertising that they have more space.
If pitch is now the same on all seats, I guess I'm also curious if there are any new seats to avoid - limited recline, seats with even more reduced pitch, or misaligned windows
Even after the move the seats still have quite a lot of room. I just rode in row 25 to get home and I still had plenty of space, more than I do when I ride other carriers and I ride other carriers quite a lot. None of the seats have a reduced recline. Row 25 reclines as much as row 18 and as much as row 13. I think because of the move row 13 now has a misalined window. You have to look forward or backward. I'm not positive.
The seats behind the exit used to be 33" pitch. Now they are 32", just like those in front. Minor loss in the non-EML seats to get the 39" option for those two rows.