KLM Flying Dutchman - Widerøe/SAS - Can't sell KLM tickets

Dear all,
I always buy my tickets from Widerøe/SAS for KLM, so I can get extra benefits, such as 24 hour cancellation, etc. However, since June this was impossible. Widerøe claims that KLM and AF as stopped all other companies in selling their tickets, since they want to sell it themselves....

Is this true and why are they doing this?

Sincerely,

SB

If Wideroe/SAS were still able to sell you tickets, I don't think they would lie about the matter, but would instead gladly take your money.

When an agent/third party sells a ticket, they usually receive a commission. I guess AF/KL no longer want to pay commission to Wideroe/SAS, perhaps because the amount of tickets purchased was minimal.

Widerøe can still sell AF and KL flights... the problem is that since June, most AFKL fares have a sales restrictions preventing ticket issuance on most stocks. It is most likely to prevent fuel dumps by issuing AF fare smartly on some YQ-friendly airline stock.


[Sales Restrictions]
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR A9.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AE.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AH.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AT.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AZ.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR B2.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CI.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CO.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CZ.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR DL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR FB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR FI.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR FV.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR J2.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR JU.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KQ.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR LG.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR LO.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR ME.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MH.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MK.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR MU.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR OV.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR PS.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR PX.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR SB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR SU.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR SV.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR TU.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR UL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR VN.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR AM.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR CM.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR WM.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR KE.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AF OR UX.

So basically tickets with an e-ticket number starting with 117 (=SAS) may not include any AFKL sectors?

Does this mean that if SAS has cancellations, strikes or other disruptions, they are unable to rebook on KLM? :o

I think airlines have special provisions for rebooking in these situations.

I recently could not combine KL and SAS on one ticket. Called KL in the US and they could not do it, nor could a bunch of OTAs. I had to buy two tickets separately. Hopefully no botched connection.

I think airlines have special provisions for rebooking in these situations.

Not saying that you are incorrect, but do you know how that would work? In my experience rebookings on the spot are done on ticket stock of the originally-operating carrier.

The list posted by ranskis states that KLM tickets may not be issued on SAS ticket stock. So out of curiosity, would these 'sales restrictions' only apply to 'normal sales' and not 'operational sales'? Does that also mean these rules are not automatically checked/verified, but rather manually? Or not at all (They might just rely on the sales agent to verify the sales terms..).

I am not an expert in these things, but don't airlines use IATA fares as a basis of these operational rebookings?

So basically tickets with an e-ticket number starting with 117 (=SAS) may not include any AFKL sectors?

Does this mean that if SAS has cancellations, strikes or other disruptions, they are unable to rebook on KLM? :o

The sale restriction only applies to AF/KL Fares, not Flights.

AF/KL Flights can continue to be included on other carrier's Fares (incl. SK Fares).

The sales restrictions posted above relate to a single particular fare - the same restrictions do not apply to all Air France fares, and different fares will have different restrictions.

Right?