TalkBoard Topics - Proposal: Korea(s) Forum as a major travel destination.

How about revisiting this topic again, to create a Korea Forum. Korea Forum serving both South and North topics. Since there are less than hand-full of North Korea related threads per year, creating guidelines on clear titles can be enforced. With so few NK topics, confusion I would think will be minimum. I would suggest that If demand for NK topics become more popular, future review for subforum can be considered.

Drawing from example of Spain/Portugal/Gibraltar Forum, Korean Peninsula sub-title should work.

With Dining Forum and Asia Forum filled with travelers wanting to know more about Korean cusine, culture, and travel, will no doubt keep the Korea Forum bustling with traffic.

Who will benefit from Korea Forum?:
1. Skyteam and Star Alliance Mileage Runners. :) KE and OZ!
2. Air travelers connecting via ICN (Voted as top 3 best airport in the world 5 years running)
3. Visitors to Korea
4. US service members stationed in South Korea.
5. Business travelers. (Korea is home to Samsung, LG, Hyundai, Kia, and others... Ranked 15th largest economy.)
6. Everyone else interested Korean food, K-Pop, and dramas...

Upcomming Major World Tourist Events:
South Korea will host the 2018 Winter Olympics.
http://www.olympic.org/pyeongchang-2018-winter-olympics

Past Major World Tourist Events:
Having already hosted the 1988 Summer Olympics.
http://www.olympic.org/seoul-1988-summer-olympics
Co-hosted the FIFA World Cup in 2002.
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=4395/index.html

Current FT Korea-based Airline Forums:
Korea is home to 2 of FT's favorite Asia-based airlines: Asiana and Korean Airlines.
Don't forget the less known North Korean Flagship, Goryo Airline.

Asiana Forum currently has 1544 Threads with more than 14,335 posts.
Korean Airlines Forum currently has 951 Threads and 6,614 posts.
In Asia Forum, Korea related questions are a regular fare.

Tourism Stats:
According to "wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings"...
In the Asia and the Pacific region, South Korea had the 7th most tourist arrival in the region, with 9.6 Million people in 2011. Ranking above India with 6.29 million and Japan with 6.22 million tourists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

How is South Korea ranked among world economy?"
Based on "2011 List by the International Monetary Fund"...
Ranked 15th with $1,116,247 (Millions of US)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

In the last 3 months, what kinds of topics are being raised by FlyerTalk members in Asia Forum, regarding Korea?

"First trip to Seoul - therefore noob questions!"
"Seoul and Paris - what to do? Where to stay?
"Expo 2012 - Yeosu, South Korea"
"Early Arrival into Seoul, what can I do?"
"ICN transit hotel?"
"Metro Hotel Seoul"
"5 hour layover in ICN Seoul"
"South Korea begins work on high speed rail for 2018 Olympics"
"Busan - Korea"
"Seoul - Taipei - Tokyo"
"Best way to get Won currency in South Korea?
"If you could only eat one meal in Seoul...where?
"North Korea"
Connection Time in Seoul ICN"
"Seoul hotels"

Are FT Members in terested in North Korea?:
"North Korea" key word shows 102 Threads and 499 Posts.

I am sure someone will be along shortly who can provide the standard recommendations for what kind of information can help you convince the Talkboard of the value of this forum.

Based on other successful requests for forums that I have seen, you may want to justify it further by counting the number of threads in the past month which would have been included in the Korea forum, had it existed. I presume that the thread counts you listed were for the Asiana and Korean Airlines forums as a whole, which doesn't really inform people as to how much the Korea forum itself would be used.

That said, I find it hard to believe that there would be sufficient traffic to justify a separate North Korea subforum, as there simply isn't enough traffic to the country. The fact that it is hard to travel to (and that, as a consequence, among other things, a reason that few people actually go there) is a reason not to create a forum. Regarding the idea of an overall Korea forum, I did a quick review of the Asiana, Korean Airlines, and Asia forums over the past two months. There were no threads in either of the airlines forums which were not airline related other than the two threads you created to point to this one. In the Asia forum, there were 10 threads about South Korea. There were no threads about North Korea. I don't know whether the Talkboard would consider that sufficient volume to justify a separate forum.

I am sure someone will be along shortly who can provide the standard recommendations for what kind of information can help you convince the Talkboard of the value of this forum.

Based on other successful requests for forums that I have seen, you may want to justify it further by counting the number of threads in the past month which would have been included in the Korea forum, had it existed. I presume that the thread counts you listed were for the Asiana and Korean Airlines forums as a whole, which doesn't really inform people as to how much the Korea forum itself would be used.

That said, I find it hard to believe that there would be sufficient traffic to justify a separate North Korea subforum, as there simply isn't enough traffic to the country. The fact that it is hard to travel to (and that, as a consequence, among other things, a reason that few people actually go there) is a reason not to create a forum. Regarding the idea of an overall Korea forum, I did a quick review of the Asiana, Korean Airlines, and Asia forums over the past two months. There were no threads in either of the airlines forums which were not airline related other than the two threads you created to point to this one. In the Asia forum, there were 10 threads about South Korea. There were no threads about North Korea. I don't know whether the Talkboard would consider that sufficient volume to justify a separate forum.

FT members have been traveling to North Korea and there are threads regarding how to get there.
1. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/1137298-north-korea-still-exotic-destination.html
2. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/799553-north-korea-maybe.html
3. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/555820-travel-north-korea.html

skchin has made a good case for the creation of a Korea forum and it has my support. ^

I travelled to ICN in 2010 and of course did plenty of FT research and having all the topics consolidated into a single forum would be a huge convenience to others planning future trips or keeping up with Korea topics.

I'll fully support the creation of this new Forum.

I'll fully support the creation of this new Forum.

As do I -- the business traffic alone between the US and South Korea warrants it. The tourist traffic would be the icing on the cake.

FT members have been traveling to North Korea and there are threads regarding how to get there.
1. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/1137298-north-korea-still-exotic-destination.html
2. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/799553-north-korea-maybe.html
3. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/555820-travel-north-korea.html

Yes, they do. I have read at least one trip report, possibly two, from travelers who have been to North Korea. However, three threads (or even the 10 I count since 2006) are not the basis for a sub-forum. If there is enough interest to sustain a Korea forum, which I am uncertain of, but I can conceive of the possibility, then it would make sense for North Korea to be included there, but to carve out a sub-forum just for North Korea which would have one thread every year or two just doesn't make sense.

To quote the Talkboard's posted criteria (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/11201697-post2.html), "one living forum is more valuable than two mostly dead ones."

Will the forum be split in North and South Korea? It may be organized and relevant for some if it is.

I am sure someone will be along shortly who can provide the standard recommendations for what kind of information can help you convince the Talkboard of the value of this forum.

FWIW, here's the previous lengthy discussion thread on the same proposal from OP almost 3 years ago:

Proposal: Destination Korea Forum (North and South) (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkboard-topics/999080-proposal-korean-travel-forum.html)

Other than we have a new TB to review this "revived" proposal, I am not sure if things have changed significantly as far as Korea threads go on FT.

Although I wasn't as supportive last time around, I'm more now.

Other than we have a new TB to review this "revived" proposal, I am not sure if things have changed significantly as far as Korea threads go on FT.

Since 2007, several things have changed.
1. US and South Korea has signed a free trade agreement.
2. South Koreans no longer requires a tourist visa to visit US.

Since 2007, several things have changed.
1. US and South Korea has signed a free trade agreement.
2. South Koreans no longer requires a tourist visa to visit US.

The question I would ask is: Have things changed here on flyertalk? I don't question that the outside world has changed, but what has changed (or do we expect to change) here on Flyertalk to justify a different decision from last time?

I still reiterate my objection to the idea of a separate North Korea subforum. It would make more sense to create a subforum for every country in Europe before creating one for North Korea. If there is sufficient reason to create a Korea forum let it cover both North and South Korea.

The question I would ask is: Have things changed here on flyertalk? I don't question that the outside world has changed, but what has changed (or do we expect to change) here on Flyertalk to justify a different decision from last time?

I still reiterate my objection to the idea of a separate North Korea subforum. It would make more sense to create a subforum for every country in Europe before creating one for North Korea. If there is sufficient reason to create a Korea forum let it cover both North and South Korea.

Bulk of the Korea Forum will be regarding South Korea, probably less than 10% of content will be regarding North Korea. In that sense, North Korea subforum may not be necessary. Thus I'm pulling back on the subforum idea.

Bulk of the Korea Forum will be regarding South Korea, probably less than 10% of content will be regarding North Korea. In that sense, North Korea subforum may not be necessary. Thus I'm pulling back on the subforum idea.

Having resolved the North Korea forum issue, then let's take a look at some of the things that make a successful forum.

It is obvious that you are passionate about this issue. Are there others who will also involve themselves in this forum to help make it successful?

I also reiterate my suggestion that you identify the number of threads over the last few months which would have been located in the Korea forum, had it existed. That is one of the easiest ways to demonstrate that there is an unmet need.

I support a Korean Forum. My gosh if we can have a Singapore forum, we can have a Korea forum. Let's examine why we have a Singapore forum. It is because we have a heavy number of Star Alliance posters, mostly United. And people like mileage runs to Singapore due mainly to the distance. If that is enough to justify a forum, then all the things the OP listed certainly qualify for Korea. And I do think there will be traffic to this new forum.

Great idea.

In fact, if it's in order, I'd nominate skchin to modeerate it.

I also support the creation of a Korea forum! Great initiative skchin!

I support this. Korea is a major destination for both business and tourism. There's a lot to talk about and it could benefit from having the information all in one place rather than trying to hunt all over FT for it.

Great idea, skchin!

Having resolved the North Korea forum issue, then let's take a look at some of the things that make a successful forum.

It is obvious that you are passionate about this issue. Are there others who will also involve themselves in this forum to help make it successful?

I also reiterate my suggestion that you identify the number of threads over the last few months which would have been located in the Korea forum, had it existed. That is one of the easiest ways to demonstrate that there is an unmet need.

One thing I would suggest is making North Korea a subforum under the Korea forum. North Korea is very unique. Plus it could cause some confusion if it were lumped in with the South.

I would support this as well :)

I'm sick (physically, not mentally :p :D) so only on FT for a few minutes, then going back to bed.

I'm neither for nor against Korea forum; need to spend some time on research.

I am against having a North Korea sub-forum, as I don't think it will have enough threads/traffic.

If a Korea forum is created, it can say in the description that it covers both North & South Korea.

Cheers.

I support this motion, simply because the OP sent me a PM about it. But, what I would really like to see happen is some sort of meta forum created that permits me to see all threads related to Asia in one place (sort of like the old "Asia forum").

One thing I would suggest is making North Korea a subforum under the Korea forum. North Korea is very unique. Plus it could cause some confusion if it were lumped in with the South.

I am not sure where confusion would be created. As you have indicated, North Korea is unique, so posters are likely to identify their posts as referring to North Korea. Also, there are likely only to be 3-4 threads a year on North Korea, based on past history.

A Korea forum would be a welcome addition.

A Korea forum would be a welcome addition.

Indeed, it would. +1

I'll fully support the creation of this new Forum.

Me too.

i strongly support creating a distinct forum for korea (including north korea). in fact, i have a trip to korea coming up next month and a separate forum would have saved me a lot of the burden of digging for information that is currently spread across the asia, china, and japan forums (not to mention the gems hidden in the korean air, asiana, and hotel chain threads).

a korean forum can easily handle all of north korea threads, and will be especially helpful with the olympics coming up in six years.

I support this idea - a great country with great people.

And if it gets created, the 1st sticky should be 'what to do on your xx hour stopover in Seoul'.

Support this idea. However, north and south korean information should not be in one section. Sub forum is much better. People that doesnt know korea will be very confused when reading both countries bundled in one forum.

Support this idea. However, north and south korean information should not be in one section. Sub forum is much better. People that doesnt know korea will be very confused when reading both countries bundled in one forum.

As mentioned earlier, NK gets 3-5 threads per year. IMO this isn't quite forum worthy.

I would support a consolidated N & S Korea forum.

As mentioned earlier, NK gets 3-5 threads per year. IMO this isn't quite forum worthy.

I agree with this.

Provided that the information OP provided is correct, it would appear (s)he did his homework.

Since I have a trip next summer planned for Seoul I can support a separate forum.

I think it is a good idea.

Just because it was not done
5 years ago doesn't seem so important.
Many new forums not created when originally proposed
have since been created and do very well.

I'm back to the land of the living, and will bring this up in the private TB forum.

Cheers.

As do I -- the business traffic alone between the US and South Korea warrants it. The tourist traffic would be the icing on the cake.(bolding mine), I personally don't think S Korea gets enough tourism consideration.

I support the forum.

I'm back to the land of the living, and will bring this up in the private TB forum.

Cheers.

Welcome back.
I made some updates based on the idea put forth by the community.
Using Spain / Portugal / Gibraltar Forum as an example...
Korea too can be shared by 2 countries.

Korea Forum
Korean Peninsula

(bolding mine), I personally don't think S Korea gets enough tourism consideration.

I support the forum.

As someone who just went to Korea two months ago (enjoyed it, can't wait to go back, trip report at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/1356784-icn-oneworld-bos-aa-j-jl-many-pictures-included.html) I completely agree with those who have posted already. I had to search all over FT for info on South Korea, it took me much longer than I expected. South Korea has a lot of tourist sites (there could easily be a combined thread on the palaces in Seoul). ICN is one of the highest rated airports in the world, and with two highly rated air carriers in KE and especially OZ to carry FTers there in style, it is more than deserving of its own forum.

I as well support a Korea forum.

As someone who just went to Korea two months ago (enjoyed it, can't wait to go back, trip report at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports/1356784-icn-oneworld-bos-aa-j-jl-many-pictures-included.html) I completely agree with those who have posted already. I had to search all over FT for info on South Korea, it took me much longer than I expected. South Korea has a lot of tourist sites (there could easily be a combined thread on the palaces in Seoul). ICN is one of the highest rated airports in the world, and with two highly rated air carriers in KE and especially OZ to carry FTers there in style, it is more than deserving of its own forum.

I concur completely - as someone who's fortunate enough to visit South Korea 2 - 3 times a year on business, I'm always surprised that it rarely gets considered as a tourist destination. Admittedly it's not cheap, but then neither are Japan, Singapore, HK etc.

I often get asked for flight recommendations from friends and relatives who are going to Australia or New Zealand for holidays. I always tell them to fly Asiana (my favorite airline bar none) and stopover in Seoul. Several of them have taken this advice, and none have been disappointed.

You got my vote. My family's preferred airline to travel to Asian is KE.

(bolding mine), I personally don't think S Korea gets enough tourism consideration.

I support the forum.

I don't object to a Korea forum, but I don't think Flyertalk's influence is enough to create a groundswell of tourism to South Korea. :D

Currently and logistically, Korea (as a destination) threads belong to Asia Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia-460/) on FT. W/r/t airlines discussion, we have airline fora for it. I am genuinely confused about a few folks' comments that they had to search "all over FT" for info about Korea, such as:

I had to search all over FT for info on South Korea,...

... it could benefit from having the information all in one place rather than trying to hunt all over FT for it.

... i have a trip to korea coming up next month and a separate forum would have saved me a lot of the burden of digging for information that is currently spread across the asia, china, and japan forums (not to mention the gems hidden in the korean air, asiana, and hotel chain threads).

If you did find Korea discussion threads somewhere other than Asia Forum, that mean they were misplaced and should have been moved to the proper destination forum. Did you RBP those misplaced threads so MODs could take care of them? I always RBP misplaced threads when I spot them.

For those who ever had to search all over FT for Korea info outside our Asia Forum, would you please enlighten me in which fora you located Korea discussion threads? Even better if you may provide some example threads.

I don't object to a Korea forum, but I don't think Flyertalk's influence is enough to create a groundswell of tourism to South Korea. :Dbutterfly wings:D

butterfly wings:D

:D:D:D

Currently and logistically, Korea (as a destination) threads belong to Asia Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia-460/) on FT. W/r/t airlines discussion, we have airline fora for it. I am genuinely confused about a few folks' comments that they had to search "all over FT" for info about Korea, such as:







If you did find Korea discussion threads somewhere other than Asia Forum, that mean they were misplaced and should have been moved to the proper destination forum. Did you RBP those misplaced threads so MODs could take care of them? I always RBP misplaced threads when I spot them.

For those who ever had to search all over FT for Korea info outside our Asia Forum, would you please enlighten me in which fora you located Korea discussion threads? Even better if you may provide some example threads.

I brain cramped and was referring to my overall trip search. However, I still feel that the peninsula should have its own forum.

I support for the creation of Korea forum as well.
It makes sense to have one place to get info regarding travel to Korea since there seems to be enough demand for it on FT.

I don't object to a Korea forum, but I don't think Flyertalk's influence is enough to create a groundswell of tourism to South Korea. :D

Don't count out Flyertalks contributions. We have added thousands upon thousands of Singapore arrivals and related tourist dollars and taxes just from the MR forum alone. Not to mention the Do's!

It would be nice to have a central place for visitors to Korea and pax passing through Incheon to put information. Right now, I'm afraid, some of that information gets misplaced and compartmentalized in the OZ and KE forums. FFs like me would only see one of those (KE in my case) and miss the other. Some Korea posts get put in the general Asia forum but they don't get much attention there.

Definitely a worthwhile suggestion.

From the inimitable Wikipedia, evidence that it is a more significant market than some that already have discrete forums:
South Korea has a market economy which ranks 15th in the world by nominal GDP and 12th by purchasing power parity (PPP), identifying it as one of the G-20 major economies. It is a high-income developed country, with a developed market,

Definitely a worthwhile suggestion.

From the inimitable Wikipedia, evidence that it is a more significant market than some that already have discrete forums:

By that measure we should have forums for Nigeria and Venezuela as well. I think the proposal for a Korea forum a reasonable one, but it is probably best to use Flyertalk stats to promote it.

If FT were to measure where members have been, there should be a open poll with all the countries to see where we are traveling every month. Because there is no such indicator, we have to rely on outside sources to know where people are traveling to.

If FT were to measure where members have been, there should be a open poll with all the countries to see where we are traveling every month. Because there is no such indicator, we have to rely on outside sources to know where people are traveling to.

No, but we do have the indicator of what people are talking about on Flyertalk. I have suggested that someone count the Flyertalk threads to Korea in the past few months, but none of the people who want to promote this forum seem willing to do that. They just keep repeating the outside sources.

I also think Korea forum would make a good addition to Flyertalk. I think Korea is a destination that is gaining more traffic from both tourists and business travelers. If a separate forum was created, concentration effect will result in more threads and posts on Korea.

Oh, And for the North Korea issue, I suggest that a <consolidated thread on North Korea> within Korea forum would be enough.

I think Korea is a destination that is gaining more traffic from both tourists and business travelers. If a separate forum was created, concentration effect will result in more threads and posts on Korea.
Disappointingly, destination Korea hasn't attracted any of your personal interest as a Korean native to make a single post in Asia Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15559789-post102.html) so far.

If Korea threads in Asia Forum haven't motivated you enough to participate, may I ask why and how a subforum would change your posting pattern?

Disappointingly, destination Korea hasn't attracted any of your personal interest as a Korean native to make a single post in Asia Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15559789-post102.html) so far.

If Korea threads in Asia Forum haven't motivated you enough to participate, may I ask why and how a subforum would change your posting pattern?

Obviously it has found your interest in the forum. ^

"North Korea" key word shows 102 Threads and 499 Posts.

I did a search for just Korea in the Asia forum and found 198 posts in the past year. That's not a lot but it's enough in my opinion, given that Korea is sufficiently different from other parts of Asia.

I did a search for just Korea in the Asia forum and found 198 posts in the past year. That's not a lot but it's enough in my opinion,...
I didn't search but with 198 posts, is that a good enough quantitative measure for you as a TBer to request a standforum, nsx?

I only see myself as an Asia Forum regular, but jiejie, IMHO, is not only one of our China experts but also a staple to Asia Forum with her well-thought and in-depth posts. She shares the same observation as mine that among all the discussion threads in Asia Forum, Korea ones, even though visible, are really not that many:

I see far more threads on the Indochina countries especially Vietnam, so to me that warrants consideration of a dedicated forum before Korea does.
No malice towards Korea as a travel destination, just observing the traffic and taking a volume-based point of view. I'm sure there are members here with their "pet" destination either because of ethnic ties or fond memories, but what's of practical use to the greatest number of people should be the driver. IMO.

On top of my head, I'd say I see more threads quantitatively and qualitatively about visiting S.E. Asia than Korea.
(bolding mine)

I see quite a few comments such as "why not" & "nice to have a Korea Forum" without any supporting arguments or evidence. Some people support it just because they plan to visit Korea sometimes. If this line of new forum requests would win over TBers' votes to establish any new forum, I really have nothing to offer but my deep disappointment in TB. :(

Neither jiejie nor I see Korea threads carry that much traffic over the years in Asia Forum. If our years of observation isn't enough for TBers, probably TB may solicit input from our Senior MODs who attend to Asia Forum and see what they have to say about traffic in our Asia Forum.

I understand quantity is not the only criterion to create a new forum. But when considering destination forum, numbers do speak. I just haven't seen Korea threads prove themselves to branch out from Asia Forum yet.

I did a search for just Korea in the Asia forum and found 198 posts in the past year. That's not a lot but it's enough in my opinion, given that Korea is sufficiently different from other parts of Asia.

I believe NSX nails the most important "sufficiently different" aspect of this conversation. According to the US census (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5800.html), in 2011, trade between US and South Korea resulted:

US-South Korea
$43 billion Export and $57 billion Import.

Compared to:
Vietnam - $4 bil export / 18 bil import
Malaysia - 14 bil export / 26 bil import
Indonesia - 7 bil export / 19 bil import

We aren't just talking about leisure travel here. US and South Korea trade alone gives special status to the importance of business travel. Leisure travel is just icing on the cake as some others have said.

There is a reason why airlines cater to non-stop between North American cities (LAX, SFO, LAS, SEA, DFW, ORD, JFK, ATL, HNL, YYZ, YVR) and Seoul (ICN) because there is demand for travel for passengers and cargo being exchanged. I do not see Vietnam, Malaysia, and Indonesia commanding such weight for business and leisure travel.

I didn't search...
even though visible, are really not that many...

Some people support it just because they plan to visit Korea sometimes...

You are pointing fingers at people because they are wishy-washy without data to back it up.


I really have nothing to offer but my deep disappointment in TB. :(


Yet you have no concrete data or reasoning to argue your point?

You are pointing fingers at people because they are wishy-washy without data to back it up.
No, I just pointed out a simple fact.

If you had followed TB Topics Forum closely, you would know that our TalkBoard, or at least some TBers, had stated in the past that comments like "+1", "I like it", "I want it", "why not"...etc are either of little or no effect to their (voting) decision, unless posters can provide reasoning behind their thought. I hope this hasn't changed. In the context of FT, let rational and logical arguments win, no matter it's from the pro or con camp.

Yet you have no concrete data or reasoning to argue your point?

As for my position, I already clearly explained myself and the logic behind my thinking in my other lengthy posts w/r/t this topic in both 2009 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkboard-topics/999080-proposal-korean-travel-forum.html) and this year: Korea threads haven't dominated Asia Forum on FT. My opinion hasn't changed and I have no intention to repeat myself.

Korea threads haven't dominated Asia Forum on FT.

Are there other countries with more posts in the Asia forum? Perhaps we should look at them too.

Are there other countries with more posts in the Asia forum? Perhaps we should look at them too.
I believe so.

We can continue to exchange thought via PMs so not to steal the thunder from the motion at hand. :)

TalkBoard pased the motion.

Please see the new Korea Forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/korea-714/).

JDiver, Moderator

A Korea forum will be useful, hopefully it will be read by the Korean carriers and encourage them to cater a little bit more to their international, non-Korean speaking passengers

i would support this

i would support this

I guess you missed the big announcement back in August 2012:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-hall-official-talkboard-voting-decisions/1379857-motion-passed-create-korea-forum.html

It won't hurt by participating in said forum to show your support.