Qantas Frequent Flyer - BA JSA talk - realistic?




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johnyip
Jul 26, 12, 3:37 am
So the arm chair commentators seem to think that the BA JSA is being seriously threatened...

IF Qantas codeshares with EK to Europe and the Middle East is there any industry precedent or legal complications that could lead to the BA JSA being dropped?

I mean if Virgin Australia can simultaneously codeshare with Delta and Virgin America through the same port, LAX, why would it complicate things with BA?


moa999
Jul 26, 12, 3:53 am
Who knows - its all speculation.

One would say however that the Delta relationship is much better than Virgin America in terms of share, lounges etc...

I would have thought BA would question the revenue share if an EK partnership includes flights to LHR, maybe less an issue if just Europe, Africa.

ButFli
Jul 26, 12, 4:44 am
What do the terms of the JSA say? That will be your answer.


number_6
Jul 26, 12, 5:13 am
Note that it is a JSA for QF/BA and not JV as BA has with AA. This means considerable latitude by both parties including not sharing revenue Australia-Europe that doesn't go through UK. So QF could not codeshare on EK flights DXB-MAN for example, but have to use LHR-MAN on BA ... but no restrictions on the rest of Europe. BA does codeshare with CX to NZ for example, rather than routing via SYD or MEL on QF, so perhaps this is just QF doing tit for tat?

Traveloguy
Jul 26, 12, 6:43 am
Note that it is a JSA for QF/BA and not JV as BA has with AA. This means considerable latitude by both parties including not sharing revenue Australia-Europe that doesn't go through UK. So QF could not codeshare on EK flights DXB-MAN for example, but have to use LHR-MAN on BA ... but no restrictions on the rest of Europe. BA does codeshare with CX to NZ for example, rather than routing via SYD or MEL on QF, so perhaps this is just QF doing tit for tat?

Have you read the agreement or is this again your own brand of speculation?

PotNoodle
Jul 26, 12, 7:00 am
The BA/QF agreement makes sense but theres a gaping weakness in that they have no middle of the line airline in their agreement. A middle of the line airline can provide substantial benefits to the agreement.

number_6
Jul 26, 12, 6:19 pm
Have you read the agreement or is this again your own brand of speculation?Anyone who has read the agreement cannot post here due to NDA; so everything on FT is speculation, with varying levels of informed opinion. Mine happens to be accurate :)

Blackcloud
Jul 28, 12, 3:55 am
BA does codeshare with CX to NZ for example, rather than routing via SYD or MEL on QF, so perhaps this is just QF doing tit for tat?
Not completely true.
The only CX option is to/from AKL and even that is one of the lower options after flying through SYD or MEL on QF and Jetconnect. Other destinations in NZ go via SYD or MEL.



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