hey all i'm looking to fly july 30th BUE-IGR, i flew in from the usa on lan and am flying out lan.
i therefore want to possibly use the lan south america pass or oneworld pass still dont know whats better? or where to find these options but everything else is ridiculously expensive.
read some conflicting info round here so wanted some advice. how do i book if at all possible within 14 days of departure? do i need a special TA? is it impossible?
my general itinierary is
BUE-IGR JULY 30TH
IGR-BUE JULY 31ST
BUE-MDZ AUGUST
SCL-BUE AUGUST
need help, and help appreciated!!!
BlackBerryAddict
Jul 20, 12, 6:11 am
You can use the Lan south America pass to price up the flights - or you can put in a multi itinerary on the site as well. The airpass version comes out at GBP 471 (priced in GBP because I'm based in the UK).
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 7:29 am
what about the fact that im within 14 days? i keep getting errors? did you try for july 30th?
as well is it cheaper using the "oneworld" method?
BlackBerryAddict
Jul 20, 12, 7:37 am
Ah yes - it does state in the T&Cs yo have to purchase 14 days in advance.
Have you tried a normal multi stop itineraty on lan.com?
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 7:43 am
yup came out to above 900
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 7:44 am
is it possile to do this through a one word partner to get it cheaper? say via AA?
BlackBerryAddict
Jul 20, 12, 7:45 am
You can try, but one way tickets are expensive in south america. How about splitting the straight return to IRG from the other two tickets? Or using miles to buy some of them?
BlackBerryAddict
Jul 20, 12, 7:48 am
THere's al;so the oneworld visit south america pas, but from T&Cs "Available for sale only to residents of countries outside South America. This fare must be booked before departure from country of origin, and in conjunction with return travel to South America on oneworld member airlines."
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 7:49 am
im out of miles.. mainly...
the thing is LAN isn't giving any award flight availability to BA (where i have availability)
my question is about the "one world south america pass" how do i get it? and can i get either the LAN south america pass or the one world one, within 14 days of travel?
BlackBerryAddict
Jul 20, 12, 7:59 am
im out of miles.. mainly...
the thing is LAN isn't giving any award flight availability to BA (where i have availability)
my question is about the "one world south america pass" how do i get it? and can i get either the LAN south america pass or the one world one, within 14 days of travel?
You can't buy the LAN pass within 14 days of travel - it says so on the T&Cs.
The oneworld south america pass doesn't mention an advance puchasae restriction, but does mention you have to buy it outside South america, before you fly in. You can contact any of the oneworld airlines to book it.
so i have seen a few lines here or there on the web of ppl saying they were able to do it within 14 days, via a specialised agent... was looking to find anyone experienced with that?.. also looking to figure out the difference in price... i heard the one world version may be cheaper?
The Blond Kid
Jul 20, 12, 9:08 am
I see an overnight bus trip in your future.... ;)
The good news is that the buses are VERY comfortable, with the Cama Ejecutivo having 180 degree reclining seats and even a dinner service. (Pretend like it's a business class overnight plane flight)
so i have seen a few lines here or there on the web of ppl saying they were able to do it within 14 days, via a specialised agent... was looking to find anyone experienced with that?.. also looking to figure out the difference in price... i heard the one world version may be cheaper?
http://www.plataforma10.com/ search from Retiro in Buenos Aires to Iguazu in the Misiones province and back. You could even save a couple nights in hotels that way.
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 9:19 am
I see an overnight bus trip in your future.... ;)
The good news is that the buses are VERY comfortable, with the Cama Ejecutivo having 180 degree reclining seats and even a dinner service. (Pretend like it's a business class overnight plane flight)
http://www.plataforma10.com/ search from Retiro in Buenos Aires to Iguazu in the Misiones province and back. You could even save a couple nights in hotels that way.
lol.. no way!... no buses for me... i'll take the extra fe dollars, i just want to make sure to pay the least amount extra?... anyone have experience booking a oneworld south america pass while in south america? :) lol..
bingocallerb22
Jul 20, 12, 10:52 am
lol.. no way!... no buses for me... i'll take the extra fe dollars, i just want to make sure to pay the least amount extra?... anyone have experience booking a oneworld south america pass while in south america? :) lol..
As I recall, you just need an international booking code, any code really, there seems to be no check on dates, names, etc.
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 10:54 am
As I recall, you just need an international booking code, any code really, there seems to be no check on dates, names, etc.
ok but here's my problem, i need to travel july 30th.. within 14 days.. any idea if i make the booking.. (my pnr works) it won't let me make it for those dates but can i change it after i book it?
bingocallerb22
Jul 20, 12, 1:48 pm
Well, changes are allowed at $30 change fee per pax, not bad.
Don't recall if mentioned upthread, but do check buying without the SA Pass. The SA pass books into H while often you can just buy economy V cheaper.
You say won't let you... sometimes it is flakey... does it allow you to use your booking code for later dates, just not within 14 days?
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 1:56 pm
Well, changes are allowed at $30 change fee per pax, not bad.
Don't recall if mentioned upthread, but do check buying without the SA Pass. The SA pass books into H while often you can just buy economy V cheaper.
You say won't let you... sometimes it is flakey... does it allow you to use your booking code for later dates, just not within 14 days?
it allows me for not within 14 days,.. the question with the lan south america pass is can i book it for after 14 days and change it back to within 14 days just by paying the fee?
(with lan pass it comes out to around 705USD without it comes out to 940)
bingocallerb22
Jul 20, 12, 2:29 pm
it allows me for not within 14 days,.. the question with the lan south america pass is can i book it for after 14 days and change it back to within 14 days just by paying the fee?
(with lan pass it comes out to around 705USD without it comes out to 940)
Interesting idea... a problem might be you will have an H fare (special fare) and when they change they will look for an H fare availability and might clue in, or might not, or give you another fare class and you pay the difference... but I am just talking out loud, knowing nothing, trying to be helpful
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 2:32 pm
the question is simply if i bought this at the begginng of the year would i be able to change it to within 14 days? or is that not a possibility.. b/c if it's possible my idea is great...
bingocallerb22
Jul 20, 12, 2:43 pm
I agree it is a great idea if possible...
here are the fare rules for H on LAN:
Rules
Search:
Departing LIM on 08/08/12 for BUE
Fare basis code HEEFX033
Flying LA
Routing via Western Hemisphere
Rule Category
Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FARE FLEXIBLE
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
OTHER CONDITIONS
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS
TICKET WILL BE VOID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT USED
IN THE SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET
///
TARIFA FLEXIBLE
ESTA TARIFA APLICA PARA CLASE ECONOMICA
USO SECUENCIAL DE LOS CUPONES DE VUELO
EL TICKET NO SERA VALIDO SI LOS CUPONES DE VUELO
NO SON USADOS EN EL ORDEN EMITIDO EN EL TICKET
///.
ELIGIBILITY
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
FLIGHT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LA FLIGHT
ANY XL FLIGHT
ANY 4M FLIGHT
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY PZ
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY LA
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY XL
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4M
ANY PZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY PZ
ANY PZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
NO ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
MINIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 2 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
///
EL VIAJE DE REGRESO DEBE COMENZAR NO DESPUES DE
12 MESES CONTADOS DESDE EL INICIO DE VIAJE.
///
STOPOVERS
4 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
///
4 PARADAS INTERMEDIAS PERMITIDAS SIN CARGO.
///
TRANSFERS
6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 3 IN EACH
DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
///
6 CONEXIONES PERMITIDAS - 3 EN CADA DIRECCION.
///
COMBINATIONS
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LA/XL/
4M/PZ/JJ IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.
BLACKOUT DATES
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
THERE IS NO SECURITY SURCHARGE.
OTHERWISE
FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 63.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE.
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SALES RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS MADE WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS BEFORE
DEPARTURE MUST BE INSTANTLY TICKETED.
///
BOLETOS NO PUEDEN SER VENDIDOS EN VENEZUELA.
LAS RESERVAS DENTRO DE 24 HORAS ANTES DEL VUELO
DEBEN SER EMITIDAS INMEDIATAMENTE.
///
PENALTIES
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
-CHANGES-
CHANGES ON OR BEFORE FLIGHT DEPARTURE DAY
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES ARE PERMITTED WITHOUT ANY
CHARGE.
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES- IF THE ORIGINAL FARE IS NOT
AVAILABLE OR THE CHANGE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
ORIGINAL FARE CONDITIONS PASSENGER CAN PURCHASE
A SUPERIOR FARE BY PAYING THE DIFFERENCE.
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES FOR TICKETS THAT HAVE BEEN
PARTIALLY USED- IT WILL BE CHARGED WITH THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VALUE OF THE NEW TICKET AND
THE ORIGINAL TICKET.
CHANGES AFTER FLIGHT DEPARTURE DAY
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES PERMITTED AFTER FLIGHT
DEPARTURE DAY FOR A CHANGE FEE OF USD 50.00 EVERY
TIME THE TICKET IS MODIFIED.
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES FOR CHILDREN AND INFANTS THE
CORRESPONDING DISCOUNT WILL APPLY TO THE CHANGE
CHARGE OF USD 50.00
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES- IF THE ORIGINAL FARE IS NOT
AVAILABLE OR THE CHANGE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
ORIGINAL FARE CONDITIONS THE PASSENGER CAN
PURCHARSE A SUPERIOR FARE BY PAYING THE DIFFERENCE
AND THE CHANGE FEE CHARGE.
DATE/FLIGHT CHANGES FOR TICKETS THAT HAVE BEEN
PARTIALLY USED- IT WILL BE CHARGED WITH THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VALUE OF THE NEW TICKET AND
THE ORIGINAL TICKET PLUS DE CHANGE FEE CHARGE.
-REFUNDS-
REFUNDS ARE PERMITTED WITH A CHARGE OF USD 100.00
REFUNDS FOR CHILDREN AND INFANTS TICKETS THE
CORRESPONDING DISCOUNT WILL APPLY TO THE REFUND
CHARGE OF USD 100.00
REFUNDS FOR TICKETS THAT HAVE BEEN PARTIALLY USED-
IT WILL BE REFUNDED WITH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET AND THE COST OF THE TRIP
ACTUALLY FLOWN MINUS THE CORRESPONDING REFUND
CHARGE.
///
-CAMBIOS-
CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO ANTES O EL MISMO DIA DEL
VUELO
PERMITE CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO SIN CARGO.
FRENTE A UN CAMBIO DE FECHA/VUELO- SI LA TARIFA
ANTERIORMENTE COMPRADA YA NO ESTA DISPONIBLE O EL
CAMBIO NO CUMPLE CON LAS RESTRICCIONES ORIGINALES
DE LA TARIFA EL PASAJERO PODRA OPTAR POR UNA
TARIFA SUPERIOR PAGANDO LA DIFERENCIA.
CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO PARA PASAJES/BILLETES QUE
HAN SIDO PARCIALMENTE UTILIZADOS-SE LE CARGARA LA
DIFERENCIA ENTRE EL VALOR DEL NUEVO PASAJE Y EL
VALOR DEL PASAJE ORIGINAL.
CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO DESPUES DEL DIA DE SALIDA
DEL VUELO.
PERMITE CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO DESPUES DEL DIA DE
SALIDA DEL VUELO CON UN CARGO DE USD 50.00 CADA
VEZ QUE USTED MODIFICA SU VIAJE.
PARA CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO EN PASAJES/BILLETES DE
NINOS E INFANTES SE LE APLICARA EL DESCUENTO
CORRESPONDIENTE AL CARGO POR CAMBIO DE USD 50.00
FRENTE A UN CAMBIO DE FECHA/VUELO- SI LA TARIFA
ANTERIORMENTE COMPRADA YA NO ESTA DISPONIBLE O EL
CAMBIO NO CUMPLE CON LAS RESTRICCIONES ORIGINALES
DE LA TARIFA EL PASAJERO PODRA OPTAR POR UNA
TARIFA SUPERIOR PAGANDO LA DIFERENCIA Y EL CARGO
CORRESPONDIENTE AL CAMBIO.
CAMBIOS DE FECHA/VUELO PARA PASAJES/BILLETES QUE
HAN SIDO PARCIALMENTE UTILIZADOS-SE LE CARGARA LA
DIFERENCIA ENTRE EL VALOR DEL NUEVO PASAJE Y EL
VALOR DEL PASAJE ORIGINAL MAS EL CARGO
CORRESPONDIENTE AL CAMBIO.
-DEVOLUCIONES-
PERMITE DEVOLUCIONES CON UN CARGO DE USD 100.00
DEVOLUCIONES PARA PASAJES/BILLETES DE NINOS E
INFANTES SE LE APLICARA EL DESCUENTO
CORRESPONDIENTE AL CARGO POR DEVOLUCION DE
USD 100.00
DEVOLUCIONES DE PASAJES/BILLETES QUE HAN SIDO
PARCIALMENTE USADOS- SE LE DEVOLVERA LA DIFERENCIA
ENTRE EL VALOR DEL PASAJE ORIGINAL Y EL COSTO DEL
VIAJE YA REALIZADO MENOS EL CARGO POR DEVOLUCIONES
CORRESPONDIENTE.
///
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- REF FEE APPLIES - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
///
EN LA CASILLA ENDOSOS DEL BOLETO ORIGINAL
Y DEL REEMITIDO DEBE ANOTARSE -REF FEE APPLIES-
///
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
DISCOUNT.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
///
MENOR ACOMPANADO DE 2 A 11 ANOS
SIN DESCUENTO.
INFANTE ENTRE 0 Y 2 ANOS OCUPANDO ASIENTO
SIN DESCUENTO.
INFANTE ENTRE 0 Y 2 ANOS SIN ASIENTO PAGA EL
10 POR CIENTO DE LA TARIFA.
MENOR NO ACOMPANADO ENTRE 5 Y 11 ANOS
SIN DESCUENTO.
EL FARE BASIS DEBE INDICAR IN Y PORCENTAJE DE
DESCUENTO PARA INFANTES ENTRE 0 Y 2 ANOS.
///
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS APPLY ON LAN OPERATED FLIGHTS
LANPASS
EARNS 100 PERCENT KILOMETERS
SEAT ASSIGNMENT
IT IS PERMITTED
///
LAS SIGUIENTES CONDICIONES SE ENTREGAN
EN VUELOS OPERADOS POR LAN
LANPASS
100 POR CIENTO ACUMULACION DE KILOMETROS
RESERVA DE ASIENTO
SI PERMITE
///
FARE BY RULE
NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
ANYTIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING
UNIT
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS ON/BEFORE DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED
FLIGHT
4. LA/LP/XL/4M FARES ARE USED
5. LA FARE TYPES BR/BU/EU/FU/WU/XEX/XOX ARE USED
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS ON/BEFORE DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED
FLIGHT
4. LA/LP/XL/4M FARES ARE USED
5. LA FARE TYPES BR/BU/EU/FU/WU/XEX/XOX ARE USED
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
REFUND VIA MCO
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
ANYTIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CHARGE USD 50.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING
UNIT
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS AFTER DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. LA/LP/XL/4M FARES ARE USED
5. LA FARE TYPES BR/BU/EU/FU/WU/XEX/XOX ARE USED
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS AFTER DAY OF ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. LA/LP/XL/4M FARES ARE USED
5. LA FARE TYPES BR/BU/EU/FU/WU/XEX/XOX ARE USED
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
REFUND VIA MCO
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES
NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
Rcarentals
Jul 20, 12, 2:48 pm
ok so looks good :) i think i'm gonna go for it!
bingocallerb22
Jul 20, 12, 4:04 pm
ok so looks good :) i think i'm gonna go for it!
good luck... and let us know the happy results :)
Rcarentals
Jul 21, 12, 8:34 pm
ok so sometimes the simple things are just beneath your nose..
i can buy LAN km's from LAN, at 2c a km. anyone know if these are instant? will they appear the moment i buy them?
bingocallerb22
Jul 22, 12, 3:27 am
ok so sometimes the simple things are just beneath your nose..
i can buy LAN km's from LAN, at 2c a km. anyone know if these are instant? will they appear the moment i buy them?
Yes, the last time I bought, they appeared quickly.
Rcarentals
Jul 29, 12, 11:39 am
ok so sometimes the simple things are just beneath your nose..
i can buy LAN km's from LAN, at 2c a km. anyone know if these are instant? will they appear the moment i buy them?
lol...
ok here's the low down.
i had accidentally while searching originally for these fares by either paying or buying kms, experianced a "mistake" in the website where it priced out the ticket to 0$ + tax
this lasted a few hours and i couldnt replicate it intentionally kinda just fluked it, after about 6hrs i had tickets confirmed and with ticket numbers.
so i went ahead and booked a few tickets...
LAN went ahead and confirmed and even put a hold on the money on my credit card. they sent me a ticket number and an agent sent me an email that my flight was confirmed and booked. this was 7 days ago.today they show as "suspended" and some "voided" i called lan and they told me to come in person to verify my identity and pay in cash or crdit at the sales office. i did. they wouldnt accept cash payment or any payment. they said i should go to a lan store the next day (this was at an airport) as only their "internal department" could fix it and they were not working on sunday. i called up and it seems their "internal department" was working sunday. they requested a picture of my passport and my credit card. i sent it. they then said they wouldn't honor it. they said my only choice was to book another flight and write a complaint.
any suggestions?
opinions?
is lan required to honor this?
the main let down is that they cancelled it a day before my flight leaving me completely inconvenienced.(although i do have a somewhat backup plan.)
whats the legal status here? is this much different from the united deal?
bingocallerb22
Jul 29, 12, 12:58 pm
lol...
ok here's the low down.
i had accidentally while searching originally for these fares by either paying or buying kms, experianced a "mistake" in the website where it priced out the ticket to 0$ + tax
this lasted a few hours and i couldnt replicate it intentionally kinda just fluked it, after about 6hrs i had tickets confirmed and with ticket numbers.
so i went ahead and booked a few tickets...
LAN went ahead and confirmed and even put a hold on the money on my credit card. they sent me a ticket number and an agent sent me an email that my flight was confirmed and booked. this was 7 days ago.today they show as "suspended" and some "voided" i called lan and they told me to come in person to verify my identity and pay in cash or crdit at the sales office. i did. they wouldnt accept cash payment or any payment. they said i should go to a lan store the next day (this was at an airport) as only their "internal department" could fix it and they were not working on sunday. i called up and it seems their "internal department" was working sunday. they requested a picture of my passport and my credit card. i sent it. they then said they wouldn't honor it. they said my only choice was to book another flight and write a complaint.
any suggestions?
opinions?
is lan required to honor this?
the main let down is that they cancelled it a day before my flight leaving me completely inconvenienced.(although i do have a somewhat backup plan.)
whats the legal status here? is this much different from the united deal?
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Sounds like LAN has gone into a lock down on this one and so the fight will be uphill, very uphill. IMHO (and experience) to continue to fight directly with them on this would be futile, frustrating. I feel for you that you jumped through the hoops for nothing. And, as you said, the late notice. The late notice is disturbing. The hoops are just because no low level person was willing to step up to the plate, so referred you elsewhere. In the end, no one was willing to put their job at risk by allowing a $0 ticket.
Probably not worth it because of the obvious fare mistake, but to challenge it afterward you'd need to pursue government oversight (i.e. like INDECOPI) or a lawyer. LAN will just say the file is closed. Sorry to be pessimistic for you.
Thinking how could you parley this into a beneift for your new ticket...
Rcarentals
Jul 29, 12, 1:20 pm
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Sounds like LAN has gone into a lock down on this one and so the fight will be uphill, very uphill. IMHO (and experience) to continue to fight directly with them on this would be futile, frustrating. I feel for you that you jumped through the hoops for nothing. And, as you said, the late notice. The late notice is disturbing. The hoops are just because no low level person was willing to step up to the plate, so referred you elsewhere. In the end, no one was willing to put their job at risk by allowing a $0 ticket.
Probably not worth it because of the obvious fare mistake, but to challenge it afterward you'd need to pursue government oversight (i.e. like INDECOPI) or a lawyer. LAN will just say the file is closed. Sorry to be pessimistic for you.
Thinking how could you parley this into a beneift for your new ticket...
is INDECOPI only in peru? my first flight was on LA4024 i think that means lan chile. is that correct? if so do you know of any government agencies in chile worth contacting?
Viajero Perpetuo
Jul 29, 12, 6:53 pm
is INDECOPI only in peru? my first flight was on LA4024 i think that means lan chile. is that correct? if so do you know of any government agencies in chile worth contacting?
SERNAC in Chile.
http://www.sernac.cl/
Rcarentals
Aug 7, 12, 7:10 pm
so Lan finally got back to me from the customer relations department after i filed a DOT complaint. below is a quote
"With reference to your ticket 045-XXXXXXXXXX traveling from Buenos Aires to Santiago and Sydney on LA2429 AND LA807, please be advised that it has been voided due to the fare not being paid for; only the taxes have been paid."
as of now the taxes have charged to my credit card.
the question is LAN says that "i have not payed for the fare" only taxes.
but from doing a little research it seems more like, legally, they have entered a written contract i have both an email from an agent as well as the PDF of the ticket and transaction wich clearly has written the price of the ticket as 0.00USD. so that means that by them issuing the ticket and offering me transportation at 0$ if i have paid the tax wich is all they asked of me they must honor the ticket?
it seems that a purchase is not just for money, rather "a deed" or contract is considered a purchase.. so if they gave me this contract i have the right to fly?
they seem to say that i didnt "PAY" for a flight. but my argument is i don't need to "pay" for it, i just need the contract or "ticket" wich promises me the service of flying on their aircraft. so long as i fulfill all the stipulations - paying for the tax, etc.. they should be bound to this right? we both virtually "signed" a contract for my transportation on their airline, that is binding isn't it?
any ideas? comments?
bingocallerb22
Aug 8, 12, 4:52 am
Well, I guess you will be awaiting the results of the DOT complaint?
Rcarentals
Aug 8, 12, 5:18 am
what do you mean by the results? does the DOT mediate these complaints? what exactly will the DOT do?
bingocallerb22
Aug 8, 12, 6:34 am
what do you mean by the results? does the DOT mediate these complaints? what exactly will the DOT do?
No. It was a question, with a question mark. I am interested to see what happens with the DOT complaint you made... I have a spat with them too and am interested to see if this mechanism works?