New York City - EWR to ANDAZ Wall Street 2 PM Monday




Stumbling Inn
Jul 19, 12, 8:17 pm
I don't know what I was thinking but I booked my nyc flight to arrive via Southwest to EWR at 2PM on a Monday. What is the best way to to get two adults and two teens with Crry ons to Wall and Water during commute time?


Blumie
Jul 20, 12, 7:14 am
2pm is not commute time, which is not to say that you won't hit traffic coming into the city.

The easiest way to your hotel, but not the cheapest, is by taxi. Is that what you meant by "best"?

Landing Gear
Jul 20, 12, 10:24 am
Or by "best," were you looking for driving directions?


tcook052
Jul 20, 12, 11:37 am
When I stayed at the Andaz Wall St. last June I took the PATH train from Newark Penn Station to World Trade Center and walked as it's not that far and it sounds like you won't have lots of luggage. That'd be my suggestion for cheapest and most convenient.

Blumie
Jul 20, 12, 11:47 am
When I stayed at the Andaz Wall St. last June I took the PATH train from Newark Penn Station to World Trade Center and walked as it's not that far and it sounds like you won't have lots of luggage. That'd be my suggestion for cheapest and most convenient.It's a decent option, but the walk is about 3/4 of a mile from the PATH station to the hotel.

Stumbling Inn
Jul 20, 12, 6:23 pm
any idea how far it is from EWR to Newark Penn? We can walk.

or Option 2 best guess on taxi cost? Will they give a flat rate?

tcook052
Jul 20, 12, 6:33 pm
It's a decent option, but the walk is about 3/4 of a mile from the PATH station to the hotel.

It's a 20 min. walk, give or take. I did it on a nice warm June day and was travelling light and it was a pleasant stroll.

OP could of course take the PATH to WTC and then taxi it from there as it wouldn't likely cost too much. I'd do this before I'd taxi it all the way in from EWR but that's just MHO.

Blumie
Jul 20, 12, 9:10 pm
any idea how far it is from EWR to Newark Penn? We can walk.

or Option 2 best guess on taxi cost? Will they give a flat rate?Newark Penn Station is about 5 miles from EWR. You must take the AirTrain to the NJTransit Train to Newark Penn Station. And once you do that, I'd recommend taking the train all the way to New York Penn Station, and switching there to the 2 or 3 subway (whichever comes first; they stop on the same platform) to Wall Street, which is much closer to your hotel than the PATH train.

I think a taxi to the hotel will cost about $60 all in.

It's a 20 min. walk, give or take. I did it on a nice warm June day and was travelling light and it was a pleasant stroll.

OP could of course take the PATH to WTC and then taxi it from there as it wouldn't likely cost too much. I'd do this before I'd taxi it all the way in from EWR but that's just MHO.As noted above, I'd recommend taking the 2 or 3 subway rather than the PATH, since it will put the OP much closer to his hotel. I agree that the walk can be pleasant, but it also can be nasty if it's rainy and/or really hot. Also, finding a taxi can be next to impossible.

ijgordon
Jul 20, 12, 10:27 pm
All of this is kind of silly -- for 4 people book a minivan/SUV through a car service like Carmel or Dial7. That would be "best."

PATH is kind of far, particularly if you're lugging bags (even carry-ons). NJ Transit via Penn Station will cost you ~$17/person and take twice as long with 3 times the hassle.

The regular taxis from EWR might not take 4 people in one, and I feel they're overpriced relative to the inexpensive car services.

Stumbling Inn
Jul 20, 12, 11:59 pm
awesome advice - I think i will go car service route.

sbm12
Jul 21, 12, 3:55 pm
Newark Penn Station is about 5 miles from EWR. You must take the AirTrain to the NJTransit Train to Newark Penn Station. And once you do that, I'd recommend taking the train all the way to New York Penn Station, and switching there to the 2 or 3 subway (whichever comes first; they stop on the same platform) to Wall Street, which is much closer to your hotel than the PATH train.:-: ^ :-:

Once you're on the train at EWR you may as well go all the way in to Manhattan. Faster and you end up closer to your hotel. The trade-off is ~$5/person in higher fare fro EWR-NYP versus EWR-NWK.

I think a taxi to the hotel will cost about $60 all in.The base fare should be $50 and then you need to add on tolls and tip. Probably closer to $65 all in. At $12.50+$2.25/person for the train option it is basically a wash to get into a car and the car is door to door.

With four passengers I'd take a taxi or dial 6s/7s.

NYCommuter
Jul 21, 12, 4:47 pm
awesome advice - I think i will go car service route.

Keep in mind that you may be waiting in traffic for a LONG time to enter Manhattan.

I'd do the Airtrain to the Newark Airport train station, NJ Transit to NY Penn Station, and then the 2 or 3 subway. (I am biased though- I just can't stand stop-and-go traffic.)

ijgordon
Jul 22, 12, 12:04 am
Keep in mind that you may be waiting in traffic for a LONG time to enter Manhattan.At ~3pm on a Monday, it's very unlikely there will be any meaningful slowdown heading into the Holland Tunnel. It'll take 25-30 minutes, 40 minutes maximum, and barring an accident en route, I'd be willing to bet money on that.

stevenshev
Jul 23, 12, 12:51 pm
Could be as little as 15 minutes door to door at that time!

Blumie
Jul 23, 12, 1:36 pm
Another option that would save neither time nor money but that might be fun is to take the train from EWR to Hoboken terminal and take the ferry from there to pier 11, which is a block from the hotel.

ijgordon
Jul 24, 12, 9:16 pm
Another option that would save neither time nor money but that might be fun is to take the train from EWR to Hoboken terminal and take the ferry from there to pier 11, which is a block from the hotel.
What train would you take from EWR to Hoboken?

I did think about suggesting a taxi to the Staten Island Ferry, it would almost be like arriving as immigrants, but figured they can just ride that once they get here. :)

ijgordon
Jul 24, 12, 9:17 pm
Could be as little as 15 minutes door to door at that time!Well, it'll take at least 10 minutes from the Holland Tunnel to the Andaz...

Blumie
Jul 24, 12, 10:58 pm
What train would you take from EWR to Hoboken
NJTransit shows that you can connect to Hoboken at Secaucus, or at around 3:40pm there's a direct train from EWR station.

RooseveltL
Jul 25, 12, 8:40 am
Could be as little as 15 minutes door to door at that time!

While in theory (at 4AM with no other cars or lights) this would be possible with speeding excessively on the highway parts. However, distance is minimum 14 miles and I would bet a high amount of money a vehicle can't average 60 mph for the entire journey. It is almost impossible to keep that speed within the Holland Tunnel during daytime hours.
The point does remain without traffic it can be done under 30 minutes during daytime hours.

stevenshev
Jul 25, 12, 10:09 am
Well, it'll take at least 10 minutes from the Holland Tunnel to the Andaz...

Not in good conditions. 1.5 miles, down Varick, over to Bway, and down, could be as little as 4 minutes or so.

And, yes, the 15 minute perfect condition time does require going quite fast on 1&9 from EWR to the tunnel - but that is doable, too.

Stumbling Inn
Jul 30, 12, 11:58 pm
Ended up taking 7777 with 5 people and mini van cost was 60 plus 12 toll plus 15 tip --- ran into some Obama delays so thought it was worth it.

Now What should I have piad for ewr to andaz?

ijgordon
Jul 31, 12, 7:36 pm
That seems reasonable for a mini-van.

What did you do, pick up a hitch-hiker?

Stumbling Inn
Jul 31, 12, 10:54 pm
Lol - nephew decided to hitch with us to NYC - I'm losing weight running through the sketch side of Brooklyn

Landing Gear
Aug 4, 12, 11:32 am
I'm losing weight running through the sketch side of Brooklyn.

Where is the "sketch side of Brooklyn?"

Blumie
Aug 4, 12, 9:40 pm
Lol - nephew decided to hitch with us to NYC - I'm losing weight running through the sketch side of Brooklyn

Where is the "sketch side of Brooklyn?"I've done a lot of running in Brooklyn -- including earlier this week when I ran over the W'burg and back over the Manhattan -- but didn't find any of it "sketch."

Landing Gear
Aug 4, 12, 9:57 pm
I've done a lot of running in Brooklyn -- including earlier this week when I ran over the W'burg and back over the Manhattan -- but didn't find any of it "sketch."

Indeed.

Stumbling Inn
Aug 5, 12, 2:09 pm
Got off on Claisson and walked around the projects getting to Myrtle- very sketch compared to DUmbo and Joralemon

Blumie
Aug 5, 12, 7:49 pm
Got off on Claisson and walked around the projects getting to Myrtle- very sketch compared to DUmbo and Joralemon
Hmm, it's "sketch" because it's not like a a faux-hipster white neighborhood or a rich white neighborhood?

Guercifgal
Aug 7, 12, 11:45 am
We stayed at the Andaz in April and thoroughly enjoyed it. Took the train from Philly to NY Penn Station and then a cab from there (although our cabbie "accidentally" went to Queens instead of downtown; at least he was honest enough to turn off the farebox when he realized his mistake).

jsnearline
Aug 8, 12, 6:39 pm
I'm flying into EWR with my family next Friday, also on Southwest. Our flight gets in around 4:30 pm. We're staying down at the Millenium Hilton. With my wife and two young children (ages 1 and 4), I'm trying to balance cost vs. convenience. I considering taking AirTrain and NJTransit to New York Penn Station and then taking a taxi from there. According to the hotel, that would cost about $25 for the train and $15 for the taxi. The hotel said at that time of day, a cab from EWR would likely run us about $80.

In the past, when I've stayed at the Millenium on my own, I've always just taken the train to New York Penn (I've heard enough horror stories about Newark to steer clear of there) and taken the subway from there but the subway has stairs to navigate.

I've considered the PATH option to WTC, but am not sure how easy it would be to transfer at Newark Penn Station or disembark at WTC given the kids, luggage, strollers, etc...

Any suggestions?

sbm12
Aug 12, 12, 10:39 am
I'd take the PATH or a cab straight to the hotel from EWR.

The PATH transfer at Newark Penn is a bit annoying. Arrival at WTC on the PATH should be pretty easy with escalators and elevators and a short walk over to the hotel.

I see very little value in going all the way up to NY Penn if you're just going to take a cab back down.

jsnearline
Aug 12, 12, 8:07 pm
When you say the PATH transfer at Newark is "a bit annoying" can you elaborate on that?

tcook052
Aug 12, 12, 9:15 pm
Arrival at WTC on the PATH should be pretty easy with escalators and elevators and a short walk over to the hotel.

Yup, that's what I suggested upthread but OP opted for a mini-van ride right from EWR instead. I enjoy the walk in NYC's FiDi.

ijgordon
Aug 14, 12, 9:18 pm
I'd take the PATH or a cab straight to the hotel from EWR.I'd normally say take a cheap car service (Carmel, Dial7), which should only be about $60 +/-. However, traffic into the city via the Lincoln tunnel on Friday afternoon is usually horrendous (expect 1.5-2 hours minimum for EWR to Midtown). I'm not sure if the Holland tunnel (which is how one would go to lower Manhattan) would be as bad because you don't have the capacity reduction or theatre traffic like the Lincoln tunnel.



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