Marriott Rewards (including Ritz-Carlton) - Change in Processing of Gift Cards?




vrbaba
Jul 16, 12, 10:47 am
I have used gift cards (Travel Cards and Gift Cards) for the last year for various stays. Each property has had to enter the entire gift card number manually into either a third party system or another screen that many struggle to find in the first place.

However, last week at a Springhill in Chicago, they simply said sure and swiped a Travel Card with a specified amount. Then swiped another card to take $50 out of $100 balance. The agent simply entered $50 and swiped the card. Off prints the receipt and I am on my way. I was pleasantly surprised as this has never been so easy in the past.

Has the process changed recently, or somehow all the properties I have been to dont know the most efficient way to process them?

EDIT 7/19/12: Confirmed the same process works at FS Marriott and Renaissance.


aaupgrade
Jul 16, 12, 2:06 pm
If you go back and search, you will find a post by Socrates someplace telling us that the limited service brands use one system and the FS brands use another. FS brands need to enter it all manually, whereas the system used by limited service brands have the card swipe capability. I noticed this last year at a very rare stay for me at a CY. My guess is you have previously been using your GC at FS properties.

nacho
Jul 16, 12, 4:16 pm
If you go back and search, you will find a post by Socrates someplace telling us that the limited service brands use one system and the FS brands use another. FS brands need to enter it all manually, whereas the system used by limited service brands have the card swipe capability. I noticed this last year at a very rare stay for me at a CY. My guess is you have previously been using your GC at FS properties.

I used the GCs in both US and Europe and Hong Kong, and in the US some swiped the card and some typed in the whole thing. In Europe they all type the card number in (in both FS and CY) - after they spent a lot of time to find out how to process them. In Hong Kong the FD supervisor did it in his back office so I couldn't see if he swiped or typed in the numbers.


vrbaba
Jul 16, 12, 10:34 pm
If you go back and search, you will find a post by Socrates someplace telling us that the limited service brands use one system and the FS brands use another. FS brands need to enter it all manually, whereas the system used by limited service brands have the card swipe capability. I noticed this last year at a very rare stay for me at a CY. My guess is you have previously been using your GC at FS properties.

I have only been staying at full service brands. Interesting, that there is a difference. More interesting is why a FS brand not have the seemingly advanced capability.

socrates
Jul 17, 12, 5:05 am
If you go back and search, you will find a post by Socrates someplace telling us that the limited service brands use one system and the FS brands use another. FS brands need to enter it all manually, whereas the system used by limited service brands have the card swipe capability. I noticed this last year at a very rare stay for me at a CY. My guess is you have previously been using your GC at FS properties.

I dont believe I said they had to manually enter it in either system (I might have though - I honestly don't recall it though) - while there are 2 systems I'm certain they are both interfaced with the CC system and the cards can be swiped in both (Marriott is all about making things easy not more difficult - it's unfortunate though that some of the associates don't use the tool at their finger tips)

aaupgrade
Jul 17, 12, 5:37 am
Soc - my bad, it was a FDM that told me that.

See post #56 in the thread Gift Card situation out of control (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1211771-gift-card-situation-out-control-4.html).

PurduExpat37
Jul 17, 12, 9:10 am
I can confirm that Marriott has updated their gift card processing system. It is now integrated with the PMS (property management system) and "it's as easy as swiping a credit card."

A friend of mine who works at a Renaissance told me this last week... He and his co-workers are very glad about the change.

No idea about limited-service properties, though.

nacho
Jul 17, 12, 9:18 am
I hope this system also applies to international properties too - it's so annoying to have to wait 30 mins to pay with a gift card.

vrbaba
Jul 18, 12, 10:31 am
I just checked out a FS Marriott Resort and they did not have to enter the Gift Card number manually either. Simply swiped it to let me know how much is available and deducted the folio balance. Looks like there definitely a change across the board. ^

socrates
Jul 18, 12, 11:58 am
Soc - my bad, it was a FDM that told me that.

See post #56 in the thread Gift Card situation out of control (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1211771-gift-card-situation-out-control-4.html).

actually I find the FS system (while older and less advanced in someways) much more advanced in a lot of ways than the select service system...it's amazing what happens when you swipe a credit card in the full service system...it'll find the reservation and automatically check you in assign a room (if one hasn't already been done) etc....I can't imagine that you can't swipe a gift card (back in the days when MR cards had mag strips on them you could swipe them too)...but then folks loose track of what the system can do I guess over time...sad

radman430
Aug 19, 12, 1:14 pm
Marriott did recently change how gift cards are processed by switching to a new vendor. As previous posts have mentioned, the old system was antiquated and required manual entry. The new system is now used across all brands and is much easier and seamless for associates to use.

dayone
Aug 19, 12, 2:21 pm
A welcome upgrade.

unkn0wndj
Aug 20, 12, 8:30 pm
I can only speak for select service properties using the FOSSE property management system rather than the full service MARSHA system, but in the past it was like posting a Visa and the numbers on the reverse side would go in the credit card number field. Now you have a separate post code for gift cards and it's easy to swipe and go. The Marriott Cheques still must be entered in manually, though. This only pertains to select-service FOSSE systems, and not the full-service MARSHA pms.

BKKLEE
Aug 20, 12, 10:21 pm
did they change again? or are you referring to the change that happened 18-months ago??


Marriott did recently change how gift cards are processed by switching to a new vendor.

nacho
Aug 21, 12, 3:25 am
did they change again? or are you referring to the change that happened 18-months ago??

I just had a stay back in June and it's the same old same old.

socrates
Aug 21, 12, 5:36 am
I can only speak for select service properties using the FOSSE property management system rather than the full service MARSHA system, but in the past it was like posting a Visa and the numbers on the reverse side would go in the credit card number field. Now you have a separate post code for gift cards and it's easy to swipe and go. The Marriott Cheques still must be entered in manually, though. This only pertains to select-service FOSSE systems, and not the full-service MARSHA pms.

FYI...MARSHA is the CRS used by all MI branded hotels...F/S PMS and FOSSE both process gift cards very similarly

socrates
Aug 21, 12, 5:36 am
did they change again? or are you referring to the change that happened 18-months ago??

did not change "again"...the change was made some time ago

unkn0wndj
Aug 21, 12, 2:14 pm
FYI...MARSHA is the CRS used by all MI branded hotels...F/S PMS and FOSSE both process gift cards very similarly

It was my understanding that F/S has more capabilities when querying MARSHA for different information, I have no personal experience with it. Of course we use MARSHA through FOSSE or there would be no communication with the outside world, FOSSE is a property-specific local intranet setup. Thanks for the heads up.

radman430
Aug 21, 12, 8:19 pm
This change occurred around April of this year. As unknowndj has stated as well, I can only speak for those properties that utilize the FOSSE property management system, but they did indeed have to be processed as a visa card before this new change (please don't think you could use the gift/travel/marriott card as a visa card anywhere, there were some additional steps that you would have to take in order to get it to process through the credit card system that is built into the FOSSE PMS). The new processing method behaves as you would probably imagine it should. It will display current balances, increment current cards, and redeem all within the system and will not require any phone calls or additional actions to take place. The end result is a much faster, integrated system which is better and easier for both Marriott associates and guests.

Happy
Aug 21, 12, 11:19 pm
I just realize that I still have 4 x $100 Marriott Travel Cards that I redeemed Citi's ThankYou Points from 2010. But the expiration date is in 03/20. I assume it is 03/2020. They all have mag strips on the back and the first group of digits is only 3 instead of 4.

I assume those old cards can be processed under the current new method?

unkn0wndj
Aug 22, 12, 3:46 am
I just realize that I still have 4 x $100 Marriott Travel Cards that I redeemed Citi's ThankYou Points from 2010. But the expiration date is in 03/20. I assume it is 03/2020. They all have mag strips on the back and the first group of digits is only 3 instead of 4.

I assume those old cards can be processed under the current new method?

Correct, aslong as they're in date they can still be redeemed under the new method.



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