India-based Airlines - Jet's on a roll : DEL-SIN (back to) 737




jasepl
Jul 6, 12, 6:34 am
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Do airlines re-imburse customers for sticking them in glorified Y when they bought the ticket expecting the fantastic J seats?


Anish
Jul 6, 12, 10:01 am
Do airlines re-imburse customers for sticking them in glorified Y when they bought the ticket expecting the fantastic J seats?
Why should they? As far as they are concerned you are still flying in J.. They never promised a 332 when you booked the ticket :)

Keyser
Jul 6, 12, 10:20 am
Why should they? As far as they are concerned you are still flying in J.. They never promised a 332 when you booked the ticket :)

i agree....& once again, this was very much expected....


jasepl
Jul 7, 12, 2:27 am
Why should they? As far as they are concerned you are still flying in J.. They never promised a 332 when you booked the ticket :)

I should have worded that differently.

And I don't mean compensation; I mean something on the lines of letting you change / cancel without penalty.

It's been done before, by several airlines in several lesser circumstances (IFE doesn't work, seat doesn't recline fully etc etc).

Typically, the seats, IFE, aircraft etc are not promised, but they are certainly advertised.

Anish
Jul 7, 12, 5:41 am
And I don't mean compensation; I mean something on the lines of letting you change / cancel without penalty.
Yeah true that. Though technically they can't really let you change.. It's not that they're flying a 332 on the same route at a different time.

jasepl
Jul 7, 12, 6:13 am
Yeah true that. Though technically they can't really let you change.. It's not that they're flying a 332 on the same route at a different time.

Yep, just a theoretical question, not Jet/SIN specific (hence why "airlines").

For example if one of the London flights were switched to the non-herringbone 330, or if there were a one-day equipment substitution, or other similar situation.

Yaatri
Jul 7, 12, 12:22 pm
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Why should they? As far as they are concerned you are still flying in J.. They never promised a 332 when you booked the ticket :)

I should have worded that differently.

And I don't mean compensation; I mean something on the lines of letting you change / cancel without penalty.

It's been done before, by several airlines in several lesser circumstances (IFE doesn't work, seat doesn't recline fully etc etc).

Typically, the seats, IFE, aircraft etc are not promised, but they are certainly advertised.

Airlines do compensate you, if installed equipment does not function as designed or imtended.
Airlines do allow you to chamnge without penalty, if the new aircraft does not have the class of service for which you paid.
You have no grounds to complain if the new aircraft has the cabin you paid for even if installed equipment is not up to your desire.
Airlines do not charge you more if scheduled equipmen is replaced by superior equipment.

onlysuites
Jul 12, 12, 5:10 am
Why should they? As far as they are concerned you are still flying in J.. They never promised a 332 when you booked the ticket :)

They did to me when I booked DEL-DXB a couple of years back. But then they did give me a free r/t upgrade for downgrading the aircraft to a 737.

I am telling you its only a matter of time before they start flying B737's to LHR and EWR. They loves these birds for international flights. (just so no one actually takes this seriously I am gonna put a :rolleyes: in here)

jasepl
Jul 19, 12, 6:18 am
So it looks like they're going Double-Dilly from October.

"2nd daily direct flight from Singappore to Delhi

"From October 16, 2012, fly twice daily from Singapore to Delhi, with the introduction of a convenient morning flight in addition to our late evening flight."

dep DEL 9-ish / arr SIN 17-ish
dep DEL 22-ish / arr SIN 7-ish

dep SIN 8-ish / arr DEL 11-ish
dep SIN 23-ish / arr DEL 02-ish

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/FlightUpdate.aspx

Of course, JetSpelling says it's Sinagappore - who said something about the email writer :) - and the timings in the release don't necessarily match the schedule, but never mind all that :lol:

I am telling you its only a matter of time before they start flying B737's to LHR and EWR. They loves these birds for international flights. (just so no one actually takes this seriously I am gonna put a :rolleyes: in here)
I presume it will be a 737 on both sets of DEL-SIN-DEL flights ? So your prediction is starting to come true.

Keyser
Jul 19, 12, 6:32 am
So it looks like they're going Double-Dilly from October.

"2nd daily direct flight from Singappore to Delhi

"From October 16, 2012, fly twice daily from Singapore to Delhi, with the introduction of a convenient morning flight in addition to our late evening flight."

dep DEL 9-ish / arr SIN 17-ish
dep DEL 22-ish / arr SIN 7-ish

dep SIN 8-ish / arr DEL 11-ish
dep SIN 23-ish / arr DEL 02-ish

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/PlanYourTravel/FlightUpdate.aspx

Of course, JetSpelling says it's Sinagappore - who said something about the email writer :) - and the timings in the release don't necessarily match the schedule, but never mind all that :lol:

good to know....maybe award availability will improve slightly....

ashishp
Jul 19, 12, 6:37 am
i have flown jet a couple of times when BOM SIN was with 737 and it was a nice cosy business cabin with decent entertainment. The 737 on SIN route was different from domestic 737 with 16 J seats with 48" pitch atleast.

Air India had A319 on this route till last year and that was nice and cosy too. Now their A330 is awful in Business. Too crowded with mostly (i think) upgraded people.

As long as Jet is not putting a domestic 737 with the domestic J, i think it is ok.

Anish
Jul 19, 12, 8:45 am
i have flown jet a couple of times when BOM SIN was with 737 and it was a nice cosy business cabin with decent entertainment. The 737 on SIN route was different from domestic 737 with 16 J seats with 48" pitch atleast.
Nice.. Thanks for the heads up. Though personally I'm not going to burn miles or vouchers on a 737 J seat.. More value on the flatbeds.

SpeedFreak
Jul 19, 12, 9:08 am
i have flown jet a couple of times when BOM SIN was with 737 and it was a nice cosy business cabin with decent entertainment. The 737 on SIN route was different from domestic 737 with 16 J seats with 48" pitch atleast.

Air India had A319 on this route till last year and that was nice and cosy too. Now their A330 is awful in Business. Too crowded with mostly (i think) upgraded people.

As long as Jet is not putting a domestic 737 with the domestic J, i think it is ok.

Since the current strike AIr India is back on the 319 on Bom sin route. . Awful loads though this time of the year. 45 pax each way.

ashishp
Jul 19, 12, 10:25 pm
Since the current strike AIr India is back on the 319 on Bom sin route. . Awful loads though this time of the year. 45 pax each way.

I thought the A332 was doing the BOM-SIN. I checked the fares for August on AI website yesterday and BOM-SIN was showing A332 and DEL-SIN was showing 77L.

I dont think AI sells the BOM route well. Most people at work still ask if the route is nonstop or goes via MAA. Loads out of DEL are better no?

will the SIN route be the chosen one for route testing the 787? BOM-SIN-DEL-SIN-BOM rotation or mebbe with DEL based 787?

SpeedFreak
Jul 20, 12, 1:44 am
Since the current strike AIr India is back on the 319 on Bom sin route. . Awful loads though this time of the year. 45 pax each way.

I thought the A332 was doing the BOM-SIN. I checked the fares for August on AI website yesterday and BOM-SIN was showing A332 and DEL-SIN was showing 77L.

I dont think AI sells the BOM route well. Most people at work still ask if the route is nonstop or goes via MAA. Loads out of DEL are better no?

will the SIN route be the chosen one for route testing the 787? BOM-SIN-DEL-SIN-BOM rotation or mebbe with DEL based 787?

What an irony. The 319 flies non stop and the 330 via maa. At the moment it is non stop on the 319. They can sell whatever aircraft they want, but currently 330 is busy covering 777 routes at the moment and will continue doing so till normal ops begin.

Commenting on 787 routes Is not going to get us anywhere till it actually flies the damn route.

ashishp
Jul 20, 12, 6:19 am
What an irony. The 319 flies non stop and the 330 via maa.

you misunderstood.

post aug the BOM-SIN flight is showing as A332 eqpt and nonstop.

what i was saying was that many people generally are not aware that AI is now non-stop on BOM-SIN, and still assume that the flight is routed via MAA as it used to be in the past: assuming A310 days.

SpeedFreak
Jul 20, 12, 7:20 am
What an irony. The 319 flies non stop and the 330 via maa.

you misunderstood.

post aug the BOM-SIN flight is showing as A332 eqpt and nonstop.

what i was saying was that many people generally are not aware that AI is now non-stop on BOM-SIN, and still assume that the flight is routed via MAA as it used to be in the past: assuming A310 days.

Ahan. You went too far back in time. I was a baby then. After that it was non stop on 320, then they changed to 319, then 330 via maa, back to 319 again, and now you say it's on 330 non stop from August. oh wait, it was on 777 also for some time in the middle.

Well air India Doesn't really care about marketing.

jasepl
Jul 21, 12, 12:55 am
Ahan. You went too far back in time. I was a baby then. After that it was non stop on 320, then they changed to 319, then 330 via maa, back to 319 again, and now you say it's on 330 non stop from August. oh wait, it was on 777 also for some time in the middle.

Well air India Doesn't really care about marketing.

You forgot about the belief-defying BOM-DEL-SIN routing. Or was it BOM-AMD-MAA-DEL-SIN ? :p

ashishp
Jul 21, 12, 9:45 am
You forgot about the belief-defying BOM-DEL-SIN routing. Or was it BOM-AMD-MAA-DEL-SIN ? :p
no i am not aware there was any such routing. IC briefly had a AMD-HYD-SIN routing which later changed to PNQ-HYD-SIN-PNQ.

AFAIK AI operated a BOM-MAA-SIN on A310's. They also had BOM-MAA-KUL also with A310's. on 2/3 days of the week the SIN flight continued to JKT.

IC operated a AB3 the same but with diff flight nos. BOM-MAA was the last flight of the day to MAA, with the same aircraft continuing to SIN and vv. IC173 if remember correctly. IC operated a A320 on DEL-BKK-SIN daily, while AI went non-stop BOM-DEL-SIN but only bi-weekly or so.

the real milk runs could be seen on IC's Gulf runs: the flight from MAA to Ras-al-Khaimah had 4 enroute stops: TRZ-COK-SHJ-RAK!

jasepl
Jul 21, 12, 9:53 am
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O I'm fairly certain the first one existed. But I was completely joking about the second one

Milk runs are one thing, but even the doodhwallah generally plans his deliveries in one direction. The likes of BOM-DEL-SIN and BOM-HYD-RUH and BOM-DEL-BKK were just bizarre.

There was actually a point not too long ago, when the furthest east you could go non-stop from Bombay (AI's home base) was to Calcutta (on the 1 or 2 weekly pacifying flights).



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