Air New Zealand Air Points - expert flyer booking class query on air nz
Jul 5, 12, 2:15 am
I cant figure out what this means... if we have a recognition upgrade, I assume we would move into the A class. but A appears to have 0 seats, correct? however, if there are 8 seats in business, (i think) and 13 (I think) unsold in PE does that mean that we might get the recognition upgrade. I have a vague idea we are currently booked in T. I know we had to change our fares to H so that we could book confirmed upgrades on the way home.
EF not as simple as I had hoped???
Jul 5, 12, 2:22 am
You are correct - A bucket is for upgrades from Y to PE. These tend to be hard to get, interestingly, and there tends to be more availability in BP. Probably because PE sells quite well.
I'm not sure if you can just add up the total seats for one cabin in the various fare buckets to get the exact number of unsold seats - however the number of available seats can change from day to day, so you won't really get a feel for how the loads are until quite close to flight date.
So yes, if there are unsold PE seats by flight time, then you have a good chance behind GE and G/*G pax (if any). Also if any in PE get the u/g into BP then that may open some capacity.
Bottom line is you won't likely know until check-in or even at the gate.
C4D4Z0J0 doesn't necessarily mean 8 seats left in Business. As I understand it the number next to C indicates the total number of unsold seats in Business (because C is the highest business fare bucket) but this display is capped at 4 for NZ for some reason, (and capped at 7 for PE and Economy) so if there are 4 or any number higher than 4 unsold in Business you will see C4. The numbers next to D,Z and J just indicate how much of the unsold inventory they are wiling to flog at less than a C fare for that flight. This depends on how much revenue they think they can get from that cabin on that flight and date.
AFAIK there is no way of knowing within EF how many actual seats are unsold in any particular service class (unless, for example, you see C3 in which case there are only 3 unsold seats in business).
C4D4Z0J0 means that AirNZ are prepared to "sell" at least 4 seats to C and D class bookings but none for Z or J.
"Prepared to Sell" is important - e.g. If someoune books onto this flight in D class it may stay the same (as NZ only publish up to 4 in Business) go to C3D3Z0J0 or perhaps C4D3Z0J0.
Jul 5, 12, 2:58 pm
had a bit of a chat with air nz last night, as we were wondering how much it would cost to upgrade to PE. As it turns out a little over $2k each for the NZ-HKG-LHR segment. Decided against that, as not convinced from what I read that PE in that direction is worth that cost. However, I think we will attempt a one up bid for the HKG-LHR sector. Anyway, sorry off on a tangent... it seems that no, there are no A class seats available, and probably will have to wait till the actual day of the flight (probably even at the gate) as to whether we get upgraded from AKL-HKG.