bmi diamond club - No reward saver option on BAEC




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xcalx
Jul 4, 12, 2:47 am
If you open have opened a new BAEC account to transfer your DC miles you will not be able to use the reward saver zone 1-3 option until you have earned 1 Avios ( The requirement is that you must have earned at least 1 avios in the last 12 months )

Tried a friends account for LHR-MAN OW no reward saver was offered only option was 4500 Avios + £56.05. This account balance was soley made up from DC transfered miles

I saw this link on the BA forum
cal
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1362575-cheapest-way-get-least-1-avios.html


Globaliser
Jul 4, 12, 6:23 am
I understand that the intention is that if you transfer BDDC miles to BAEC, this will qualify you for Reward Flight Saver.

xcalx
Jul 4, 12, 8:29 am
I understand that the intention is that if you transfer BDDC miles to BAEC, this will qualify you for Reward Flight Saver.

Not if its a BAEC account with no previously earnt Avios.


Globaliser
Jul 4, 12, 9:39 am
I have specifically asked about this clause in the T&C:-9. Moving destinations miles to Avios using 'Combine my Avios' will count as earning or redeeming Avios and will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.I've been told that the intention of the bolded words was to qualify the receiving BAEC account for RFS.

If anyone's having difficulty with this, it might be worth either posting on the BA board or contacting the official BA lurker (BA Executive Club) to ask what the true position should be.

YorkieFlyer
Jul 5, 12, 5:16 pm
I have specifically asked about this clause in the T&C:-I've been told that the intention of the bolded words was to qualify the receiving BAEC account for RFS.


will count as earning or redeeming Avios and will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.

should surely be

will not count as earning or redeeming Avios and will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.

as transfers do not count as qualifying earnings, otherwise you could just transfer miles backwards and forwards ad infinitum

irishguy28
Jul 6, 12, 3:12 am
as transfers do not count as qualifying earnings, otherwise you could just transfer miles backwards and forwards ad infinitum

But you can't transfer from Avios back to diamond club.

I know they said at the start that you would be able to, but for now, it is not possible.

Hence, they can (and should - it's their intention) allow transfers in from Diamond Club to count as an "Avios earning" event, such that newly-minted BAEC members who have not earned any Avios, but who have converted their diamond club miles, can redeem the Reward Flight Savers immediately.

Once all the DC members are "up and running", there probably will no longer be any point/need to enable transfers in the other way - but if they do, they can then stop the transfer of DC miles from being an "earning/expiry-delaying" event

Globaliser
Jul 6, 12, 10:36 am
will count as earning or redeeming Avios and will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.

should surely be

will not count as earning or redeeming Avios and will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.That's what I initially thought, but I have been specifically told otherwise.

It is, I think, badly drafted. It might have been better reading:-... will count as earning or redeeming Avios but will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.Or perhaps even better:-... will count as earning or redeeming Avios for the purposes of qualifying for Reward Flight Saver bookings but will not prevent the expiry of your Avios balance under the Executive Club Terms and Conditions.

YorkieFlyer
Jul 6, 12, 12:08 pm
That's what I initially thought, but I have been specifically told otherwise.

It is, I think, badly drafted. It might have been better reading:-Or perhaps even better:-

OK so the intention is just to benefit DC transferees, as a concession presumably .

The general rules appear to be otherwise and this may be useful to others:

when my Iberia Plus acc was finally 3 months old I went to combine my Avios in BAEC to be turfed out with a ring us up message. I guessed correctly that the IB account wasn't designate as Active, and so got 100 bonus points from alice.es

I can also now transfer points to IB but not back again , I'm guessing that is because the BAEC acc is a household account? I can also now see reward saver options in IB.

neuromancer
Jul 6, 12, 3:42 pm
I can also now transfer points to IB but not back again , I'm guessing that is because the BAEC acc is a household account? I can also now see reward saver options in IB.

Yes, you can't transfer from IB to household BAEC account directly. You can transfer to avios.com account and then to BAEC account.

pr99
Aug 22, 12, 8:28 am
You can always earn one Avios pretty easily.

Exchange £2.50 of clubcard vouchers for 600 Avios (900 Avios if you do it before 31 August). This normaly comes through within a week if you do it on the Clubcard website).

Spend as little as £10 on an internet merchant purchase through BAEC e-store (takes about 40 days to come through).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/collect-avios-shopping/public/en_gb?cookiesAccepted=newvispop

over 190 internet merchants are included including john Lewis, M&S, Interflora.

Joine Shell Dirvers club, opt to convert your points to BAEC Avios and fill up with fuel (transfers are done quarterly can take up to 5 months).

David-A
Aug 22, 12, 10:26 am
You can always earn one Avios pretty easily.

Exchange £2.50 of clubcard vouchers for 600 Avios (900 Avios if you do it before 31 August). This normaly comes through within a week if you do it on the Clubcard website).

Spend as little as £10 on an internet merchant purchase through BAEC e-store (takes about 40 days to come through).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/collect-avios-shopping/public/en_gb?cookiesAccepted=newvispop

over 190 internet merchants are included including john Lewis, M&S, Interflora.

Joine Shell Dirvers club, opt to convert your points to BAEC Avios and fill up with fuel (transfers are done quarterly can take up to 5 months).

Although, thouse are a bit 'UK centric' options. [Well US does have an eStore too.]

Since we have reactiviated this thread:
Plenty of other ways: Hotel points, amex points, BAA worldpoints, think buying miles should do it and is essentially instant.

Also, I believe the combine my Avios t&c have been tidyied up a bit, with separate T&C for diamond club, compared with other combine my avios usage.

xcalx
Aug 22, 12, 12:48 pm
No need to earn an avios now to get the reward saver option. Seems BAEC have activated the transfered DC > Avios accounts to be able book reward saver fares. I have tried the account I quoted in the OP and the RS option is now available, infact I have booked RS flights from this account

David-A
Aug 22, 12, 3:00 pm
No need to earn an avios now to get the reward saver option. Seems BAEC have activated the transfered DC > Avios accounts to be able book reward saver fares. I have tried the account I quoted in the OP and the RS option is now available, infact I have booked RS flights from this account

Indeed, that was what I was intending to say when I just pointed out that DC to BA transfers using 'combine my Avios' now have their own set of T&C, which are different from the normal 'combine my Avios' T&C, this is different from when the option first appeared, and when this thread began.

I forgot to actualy say the last bit. Just said they have their own T&C now.

DiamondClubQueries
Aug 23, 12, 3:06 am
Hi all

Just to confirm, if you transfer your destinations miles to Avios, you will automatically be eligible for Reward Flight Saver. We developed this especially for Diamond Club customers - transfers from other schemes do not count as eligible and you do indeed need to collect 1 Avios in the 12 months prior to redeeming if you transfer from another eligible FFP or scheme.

Transfers will not count as activity for the purposes of Avios expiry - you must earn, redeem or purchase Avios within 36 consecutive months to prevent expiry.

I hope this helps

Warm regards

Nicci



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