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Having said some nice things about US Club or club-sponsored access elsewhere, e.g., DTW (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18848428-post12.html), what's up with club access -- or lack thereof -- in the following ... ?

LAS

The mack-daddy of missing clubs. A few slots and a good bar with some top shelf stuff -- you couldn't make this a paying proposition? I count today 20 US flights scheduled out of LAS, with the 11 headed east being of fair size. The UA or CO or whatever club is further from the US gates than a taxi ride back to the Strip.

SFO

15 flights today, and again, some big planes. Or is there a UA club nearby and I missed it?

FLL

A little like LAS, in that the good news is that town is only a short taxi ride away, and the bad news is: So's the UA club. Given that the security line moves at the speed of, well, the speed of folks of a certain age and size and disposition returning from a cruise, this is not an airport you can afford to get to at the last second. Given 15 flights out today ....

If there is something better about these airports that I need to know, happy for the knowledge.

Otherwise, feel free to add your missing clubs here!

There used to be a Club at LAS; it was small and nearly window-less. The rest of the airport was actually more appealing in a lot of respects.

I think the A terminal at LAS is awful in terms of food offerings, especially when you're taking a redeye, because the Chili's has already closed. When your best option is a Burger King, you know it's bad. I'd be very happy to see a club open up in A at LAS.

As mentioned, there was a former America West club, but that closed. With the dehubbing of LAS, I wouldn't expect to see one coming back.

Having said some nice things about US Club or club-sponsored access elsewhere, e.g., DTW (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18848428-post12.html), what's up with club access -- or lack thereof -- in the following ... ?

LAS

The mack-daddy of missing clubs. A few slots and a good bar with some top shelf stuff -- you couldn't make this a paying proposition? I count today 20 US flights scheduled out of LAS, with the 11 headed east being of fair size. The UA or CO or whatever club is further from the US gates than a taxi ride back to the Strip.

SFO

15 flights today, and again, some big planes. Or is there a UA club nearby and I missed it?

FLL

A little like LAS, in that the good news is that town is only a short taxi ride away, and the bad news is: So's the UA club. Given that the security line moves at the speed of, well, the speed of folks of a certain age and size and disposition returning from a cruise, this is not an airport you can afford to get to at the last second. Given 15 flights out today ....

If there is something better about these airports that I need to know, happy for the knowledge.

Otherwise, feel free to add your missing clubs here!

I agree on LAS, for a major tourist destination the airport services are just awful.

T1 is now connected to T3 and International via an airside bus. UA is operating their SoCal flights out of T1. So it's easy to get to the UA clubs.

I agree there is just nothing at FLL

...I agree there is just nothing at FLL

Small United Club wasn't too crowded a few weeks ago. Big downside is that you have to change terminals but I had no problem accessing UA's club in terminal 1 with US boarding pass for T3.

There were rumors of US moving to the LAS D concourse (again..like they were prior to the 2005 merger). If that happens, then the UA club will be very useful. But if US operates 20 flights/day, I'm not sure there is enough capacity at D.

*IAD... either of the United Clubs requires a train-ride to the C or D gates.

HER- not a *A lounge to be had and nothing in the airport really

Having said some nice things about US Club or club-sponsored access elsewhere, e.g., DTW (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18848428-post12.html), what's up with club access -- or lack thereof -- in the following ... ?

LAS

The mack-daddy of missing clubs. A few slots and a good bar with some top shelf stuff -- you couldn't make this a paying proposition? I count today 20 US flights scheduled out of LAS, with the 11 headed east being of fair size. The UA or CO or whatever club is further from the US gates than a taxi ride back to the Strip.

SFO

15 flights today, and again, some big planes. Or is there a UA club nearby and I missed it?

FLL

A little like LAS, in that the good news is that town is only a short taxi ride away, and the bad news is: So's the UA club. Given that the security line moves at the speed of, well, the speed of folks of a certain age and size and disposition returning from a cruise, this is not an airport you can afford to get to at the last second. Given 15 flights out today ....

If there is something better about these airports that I need to know, happy for the knowledge.

Otherwise, feel free to add your missing clubs here!

US used to have a club at SFO that closed in 2004.

I would add PBI to the list (there used to be a Club) it was even remodeled (IIRC) and with UA on the B Side as well, it might make sense for US to re-open at this point (maybe even jointly with UA).

Dan

I think the club that is most missed is CLT-E

I think the club that is most missed is CLT-E

You mean D.

I would add PBI to the list (there used to be a Club) it was even remodeled (IIRC) and with UA on the B Side as well, it might make sense for US to re-open at this point (maybe even jointly with UA).

Dan

Funny, because the last time I went through there, the club was still intact, with the entry (dark wood entrance) in the exact same condition as it was when the club was open, save for a small yellow sign indicating that the club location had been closed.

You mean D.

No, there is a C/D that is fairly close (for suitable values of close). But E gates are much further. So I mean CLT-E

No, there is a C/D that is fairly close (for suitable values of close). But E gates are much further. So I mean CLT-E

My apologies as I thought you were referring to a club that previously existed and has since been closed. There used to be a club at the site of the mini-food court on concourse D. However, I agree, E is in desperate need of a club!

SFO

15 flights today, and again, some big planes. Or is there a UA club nearby and I missed it?

There was previously a CO club in T1, albeit outside of security. Unsurprisingly, that closed when the merged airline consolidated in T3.

PHL Terminal F...

Oh wait, that's re-opening later this year ^

BGM

...now there's a pipe dream if I've ever seen one. Though I only live ten minutes from the airport so I'd probably get security passes, bring my date and use it as a bar :D

Funny, because the last time I went through there, the club was still intact, with the entry (dark wood entrance) in the exact same condition as it was when the club was open, save for a small yellow sign indicating that the club location had been closed.

Oh it is still there replete with dark wood entrance and all, it just has been shuttered for a few years now.

I remember when they were remodeling the club and had setup a temp area across from the club (security was a different arrangement back then) and it was not long after the remodel that the club closed for good (somewhere during the BBB times IIRC).

I am sure that with UA in the same terminal as US there would be enough traffic to justify the lounge, but hey what I do I know I am just an armchair CEO.

Dan

Oh it is still there replete with dark wood entrance and all, it just has been shuttered for a few years now.

I remember when they were remodeling the club and had setup a temp area across from the club (security was a different arrangement back then) and it was not long after the remodel that the club closed for good (somewhere during the BBB times IIRC).

Dan

Good to know! I think it was closed in the midst of the second major round of club closings (spring 2005) when US was desperately trying to cut costs. If memory serves me right, that particular location was originally an Eastern Ionosphere lounge. US didn't do much to it over the years after absorbing it, hence the need to renovate it shortly before it closed.

If memory serves me right, that particular location was originally an Eastern Ionosphere lounge.

Now there's a blast from the past...I had forgotten the name of Eastern's lounge!!!

Wonder what the largest US destination is (in terms of total flights or total seats that doesn't have a club)? I will bet ORD or SFO. By my math, US has about 3500 seats a day out of ORD on 21 flights.

Granted, there's a UA club there, but thats a good number of flights.

Let me add BWI. In 2007 there was a UA AND a US Club in that terminal and I believe both closed in 2008. Now there's only a pay for your/Amex Platinum lounge where the old UA lounge was. Sad to see what became of the former hub :(

DFW doesn't really have a great option either, ride the train farther down to UA I guess. The US area of that terminal is horrible.

LAS - There is a closed off concourse at the A gates. Why not just use that space. Given the decline of LAS flights and the amount of capacity available (T3 just opened) - I can't envision that space being needed in at least 5-10 years.

SFO - the US gates are separate from the old CO gates in Terminal 1. CO had an landside lounge. Is it possible to for US to use it?

LGA is currently clubless as well, but they're building a new club.

EWR is interesting as well. UA and CO both had clubs in Terminal A. The old UA club is basically only serving AC customers. US could easily move into that concourse and use the club. However, US's shared space in EWR could be quite useful if a US/AA merger were to happen.

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SFO - the US gates are separate from the old CO gates in Terminal 1. CO had an landside lounge. Is it possible to for US to use it?

This is not correct. All of T1 gates are linked, there is no seperation. The CO landside lounge has been closed for over a year. T1 has a UA shuttle airside that links T3 and international; you can use the UA clubs. The only club in T1 is the AS boardroom, you can get in with Priority Pass.

Was in LAS last night early for my red eye to PHL. Since I was early(lost enough in the casinos) I decided to take a trek over to the United Club in D gate. I was in Terminal 1 following the signs to the D Gates, not a long walk and then took the tram out to the D gates. All in all it was maybe a 10 minute walk. Security was a breeze. The United club was empty with a great view of the strip.
I did make sure to leave plenty of time to get back to the A gates, sure enough everything was locked down tight.

One interesting thing happened on the way back to the A gates, as I was coming up on to security I saw the "First/Business" lane and headed right for it. The TSA agent said this line was for Wheelchair access only. I pointed out the sign right next to her on a stand as well as the "First" sign over her head! Again she told me that it was wheelchair access only and then I had to go through the regular line. As I was pointing out the signs again she said she would let me through this one time. Gee whiz...thanks!

Now there's a blast from the past...I had forgotten the name of Eastern's lounge!!!

:D

Wonder what the largest US destination is (in terms of total flights or total seats that doesn't have a club)? I will bet ORD or SFO. By my math, US has about 3500 seats a day out of ORD on 21 flights.

How bout MCO (also the site of a former club that closed in 2004 due to hurricane damage and never reopened)? I haven't done the math but I'm sure there are at least 20 flights a day, almost all mainline (I've seen an E170 is operated from DCA from time to time).

Add STL to the list of airports needing a US / UA lounge!


I did make sure to leave plenty of time to get back to the A gates, sure enough everything was locked down tight.

There's an airside walkway at LAS connecting the A/B gates with the C gates (as Southwest uses some B gates). About 3 years ago when connecting from WN to UA, I was able walk from B to C, ride the tram from C to the main concourse and cross over to the D tram entrance without having to exit security. I'm not sure if it's still possible to do that.

*IAD... either of the United Clubs requires a train-ride to the C or D gates.

There's also an LH lounge (with better amenities) at the A gates which is a shorter train ride from US Z gates.

Good to know! I think it was closed in the midst of the second major round of club closings (spring 2005) when US was desperately trying to cut costs. If memory serves me right, that particular location was originally an Eastern Ionosphere lounge. US didn't do much to it over the years after absorbing it, hence the need to renovate it shortly before it closed.

IIRC, the Former US Airways Club was spared in 2002 when many of the US Airways PBI Frequent Fliers started a letter writing campaign to save the club and its employees and I believe the county may have assisted too.

PBI at one point had three clubs, the DL SkyClub (then Crown Room Club), a TWA Ambassador Club (which was outside of Security) and the US Airways Club.

Dan

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How bout MCO (also the site of a former club that closed in 2004 due to hurricane damage and never reopened)? I haven't done the math but I'm sure there are at least 20 flights a day, almost all mainline (I've seen an E170 is operated from DCA from time to time).

There is a UA Club in the same terminal as US. Coming off the tram, instead of turning right to go to the US gates, head to the wing straight across.

Having shared access with UA clubs really helps in a lot of locations

US used to have a club in MCO that was damaged in the hurricane of '05 and US did not want to spend the money to repair it.

Dan

DFW doesn't really have a great option either, ride the train farther down to UA I guess. The US area of that terminal is horrible.[/QUOTE]

You can use the CO club also in terminal E. It is at the opposite end of the terminal and a pretty good hike but you don't have to clear security again.

There is a UA Club in the same terminal as US. Coming off the tram, instead of turning right to go to the US gates, head to the wing straight across.

Having shared access with UA clubs really helps in a lot of locations

Oh I'm aware of the UA club and agree that they certainly help in many locations. I was merely pointing out that for the size of the US operation (I count 25 daily flights, 24 of them mainline), it's surprising not to have a club.

I was in Vegas this morning... TSA and US GA's confirmed that US is moving to "D" gates around November... US gates will be taken over by SouthWest.

Thus the United Club will be available. Good Rumor at least!?

I was in Vegas this morning... TSA and US GA's confirmed that US is moving to "D" gates around November... US gates will be taken over by SouthWest.

Thus the United Club will be available. Good Rumor at least!?

For sure. And in five months or so .... not bad as these things go.

With results like this, I'll start another thread the next time I want something. ;)

I was in Vegas this morning... TSA and US GA's confirmed that US is moving to "D" gates around November... US gates will be taken over by SouthWest.

Thus the United Club will be available. Good Rumor at least!?

Just got an email from Priority Pass today that there is a club in the D concourse now, as well. This is handy for any PP members, or AMEX Platinum/Centurion card holders.

One interesting thing happened on the way back to the A gates, as I was coming up on to security I saw the "First/Business" lane and headed right for it. The TSA agent said this line was for Wheelchair access only. I pointed out the sign right next to her on a stand as well as the "First" sign over her head! Again she told me that it was wheelchair access only and then I had to go through the regular line. As I was pointing out the signs again she said she would let me through this one time. Gee whiz...thanks!

They do this ALL THE TIME in LAS! I've had this happen at least a half dozen times this year. The sign says "First" but there is either no one checking ID's, or the person checking ID's is clueless to the fact it says "First" and they tell you they're just for flight crews, or something along those lines. But, just like you, I've gone through each and every time with them saying "I'll make an exception this time," although each time I have to cut over to security lanes fed by the regular line, since there's never a lane open that feeds from this "First" line...

Let me add BWI. In 2007 there was a UA AND a US Club in that terminal and I believe both closed in 2008. Now there's only a pay for your/Amex Platinum lounge where the old UA lounge was. Sad to see what became of the former hub :(

I'll second this. While BWI isn't huge for either US or UA, both have enough flights there, including transcons that should at least merit SOMETHING being there.

It wouldn't be so bad if they would contract with the existing commercial lounge to allow access, or at the very least get a decent discount. I'm not going to pay $17, but I might pay $10.

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SFO - the US gates are separate from the old CO gates in Terminal 1. CO had an landside lounge. Is it possible to for US to use it?

This is not correct. All of T1 gates are linked, there is no seperation.

I think you are confusing T3 with T1. T1 has two separate concourses B & C. One for AS, US and WN and the other for DL and F9.

las was a nice smallish club, and the USO has taken the space, so someone must still like it.... Miss it every time i travel. cannot imagine traveling over to the just-opened T3 for the generic "priority pass" club--that would take easily 45 minutes each way by an underground tunnel (don't if know if it would be possible without clearing security twice.) A club in the D concourse is not easy to get to, either--at least one long tram and a very long walk.... and it's an old National Airlines (if anyone remembers that long ago) club... It is much quicker and easier to clear security twice for it, too....

look with longing at the AWA windows of the old (former TWA--if anyone remembers that long ago) club whenever i am in cmh. seems just to be a storage room now.

remember when there was a club in mco--liked that one, too. now US flies out of a very drab corner of the airport where any fresh food would be amazing...

who knew they were the good old days?