Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - Devaluation of AM due to Y+?
midlevels
Jun 25, 12, 3:42 am
Previously, one used to be able to upgrade a RT from HKG-LHR-HKG on BA from Y+ to J for 30,000 AM.
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
Flyer888
Jun 25, 12, 11:04 pm
Previously, one used to be able to upgrade a RT from HKG-LHR-HKG on BA from Y+ to J for 30,000 AM.
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
I think it has been discussed here there is no difference in terms of miles required upgrading from Y or Y+ to J.
I think it has been discussed here there is no difference in terms of miles required upgrading from Y or Y+ to J.
The qualification is that if your plane has Y+, you can no longer upgrade from Y to J.
The OP is referring to BA upgrades however, and yes it looks like they have aligned upgrade redemption on BA to the upgrade redemption rates on CX resulting in a devaluation.
midlevels
Jun 26, 12, 1:14 am
The OP is referring to BA upgrades however, and yes it looks like they have aligned upgrade redemption on BA to the upgrade redemption rates on CX resulting in a devaluation.
That's correct. I don't see how they can justify raising the redemption rates by 133%.
percysmith
Jun 26, 12, 1:19 am
That's correct. I don't see how they can justify raising the redemption rates by 133%.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-asia-miles/1318246-upgrades-y-y-y-j-y-j.html#12
Straight's relatively attractive now. In any case given a choice between full redemption and upgrade (same availability), I'd go for straight redemption and burn more miles.
But that does mean we lose flexibility when we're running low on miles...miles are slightly devalued as a result.
midlevels
Jun 26, 12, 2:04 am
Perhaps my post title was unclear, but I don't think post #1 was.
My complaint is not that we cannot upgrade from Y to J if Y+ exists or that upgrades on CX from Y+ to J are the same as Y to J.
My complaint is specifically that upgrades on BA from Y+ to J, which could be done before CX introduced Y+, now appear to have more than doubled in cost, which simply makes no sense at all.
My complaint is specifically that upgrades on BA from Y+ to J, which could be done before CX introduced Y+, now appear to have more than doubled in cost, which simply makes no sense at all.
I guess the "sense" is that CX determined that it should be 70,000 miles to upgrade from Y+ to J on its own aircraft, and therefore there shouldn't be a different rate if you are flying BA. That's their thinking - do I like it? No, but that is the reasoning.
ernestnywang
Jun 26, 12, 5:28 am
The AM redemption chart still shows 30000mi for BA. However, I don't think this will last long, given the reasoning stated by sxc.
5.For British Airways flight, miles required for one-class Upgrade from economy (World Traveller) to round-trip Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus Class) award, or from Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus) to round-trip Business award is 50% of the equivalent round-trip Economy Class (World Traveller Class) award. For flights do not have Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus), upgrade from Economy to Business is allowed.
http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts