Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate - T5 security LHR destroying baby milk
TheHak
Jun 23, 12, 3:03 pm
Quick question. I was flying today with the family but was stopped at security because of the baby milk. 2 out of 3 kids are severely allergic to milk so we carry a prescription to carry an alternative.
We were stopped at t5 and the guy told us that it was mandatory for them to test 50% of the baby products. It was not his choice it was the law.
Further i was also denied the possibility to go and take a bottle at the lounge to be able to pour the open milk in that bottle and keep it.
Obviously i know security has the power to do what they see fit (and frankly it was made pretty clear to me after 30 mins wait that if i was going to be difficult i would miss my plane) but i still have some questions:
I surfed the web and nowhere is it written the systematic 50% rule? Is that correct? I see only comments about the fact security may ask to try the baby products
Does the medical prescription change anything?
What do you recommend? Bring double the Necessary amount so i can throw 50%away but then i would bring quite a lot (ie more than the immediate necessary requirements)
Can security do whatever it pleases? To be frank they didnt even check i or the kids tried the milk alternative. Just rejoyced in ndestroying it.
Caradoc
Jun 23, 12, 3:06 pm
It was not his choice it was the law.
That'd be a lie, right there.
Darkumbra
Jun 23, 12, 4:12 pm
Power corrupts - we need no proof but that which happens at checkpoints everyday.
GUWonder
Jun 23, 12, 10:06 pm
The "security" characters at LHR quite often do this stupid thing that destroys as much as 50% of the nutritional items being taken for a child. On trips that may not be completed for as long as at least 36 hours after departure from LHR, this can be a huge inconvenience, since replenishing supplies may not be readily possible. Fathers/male guardians of very young, motherless infants should avoid LHR as much as possible, more so if ethnic minority males, or take way more than double the food supply as the "security" characters there work against the health and comfort of the infant/toddlers.
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exbayern
Jun 24, 12, 7:54 am
What were the ages of the children? You refer to 'baby' and 'kids'.
How much liquid did you have with you?
I'm not condoning anything because I don't have enough information to judge anything, but I do suspect that there is some sort of limit on age and quantity which falls under 'reasonable'. The TSA is known to forbid all or some liquid under that premise.
The UK rules regarding non-prescription liquids are also different, hence contact lens fluid and cough syrup larger than 100ml are rejected, unless by prescription.
GUWonder
Jun 24, 12, 12:41 pm
What were the ages of the children? You refer to 'baby' and 'kids'.
How much liquid did you have with you?
I'm not condoning anything because I don't have enough information to judge anything, but I do suspect that there is some sort of limit on age and quantity which falls under 'reasonable'. The TSA is known to forbid all or some liquid under that premise.
The UK rules regarding non-prescription liquids are also different, hence contact lens fluid and cough syrup larger than 100ml are rejected, unless by prescription.
2-40 months -- at every month in between -- the amount of liquids varying to as little as 180-200ml in total. The LHR "security" characters are up to no good with this "security" nonsense. They don't even routinely ask to see boarding passes or itineraries -- not that such should be used by some random "security" characters to meddle with the "appropriate" amount and nature of nutrition for any infant or toddlers' trip(s).
These issues I have observed at LHR have generally involved trips where the passengers originated the trip in the US and LHR was merely a transit point to places in Europe, Africa, Asia/Asia-Pacific well beyond the UK. So the TSA permitted (more than) that which the LHR "security" characters do not for little passengers.
TheHak
Jun 24, 12, 3:14 pm
Fathers/male guardians of very young, motherless infants should avoid LHR as much as possible, more so if ethnic minority males, or take way more than double the food supply as the "security" characters there work against the health and comfort of the infant/toddlers.
Funny you said that because this was frankly my perception but didn't even want to consider this...but yes it was so long my wife went to the toilet with one kid so left alone with 2 and I'm half asian half european but actually look pretty much arab (at least I'm very often spoken to in arabic)..