Mileage Run Discussion - RGN- Y fare discussion (previously in the RGN-SFO F thread)

There is still one other airline offering a fare to the US...so far I've only been able to price it one way. This is a Y fare with a fare basis of about $18-23 US.
Available to tea party and big apple, flying with one(world) of the middle eastern monarchies. Was able to price it at EX-uk. :D

[Note from BiziBB, Mod Mileage Run forums: following a tip from a FTer here I've agreed to move this sub-thread of posts to its own subthread. Good luck.
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There is still one other airline offering a fare to the US...so far I've only been able to price it one way. This is a Y fare with a fare basis of about $18-23 US.
Available to tea party and big apple, flying with one(world) of the middle eastern monarchies. Was able to price it at EX-uk. :D

Nice!! ^^^^
I was also able to price it out on TL. $290 ai OW to the apple.

Sounds nice, but not trekking all the way to RGN just to sit in Y... :(

Sounds nice, but not trekking all the way to RGN just to sit in Y... :(

Agreed. But my mom, aunt, and brother have one-way tickets to visit me in PNH already. This would be a good, cheap way to get them home. :D

Nice!! ^^^^
I was also able to price it out on TL. $290 ai OW to the apple.

Me too. 180 pounds one way to the apple ^

Me too. 180 pounds one way to the apple ^

Good if you live in SE Asia. Not worth positioning for, though. Especially in whY.

Good if you live in SE Asia. Not worth positioning for, though. Especially in whY.

I'm poised to book this one, but am running into a little trouble.

I need a return flight from India/Pakistan. DEL-RGN one-way is 350, and 550 for LHE-RGN! Can any give me guidance on a reasonable way to book a rewards flight for this, route ... is that possible?

I'm poised to book this one, but am running into a little trouble.

I need a return flight from India/Pakistan. DEL-RGN one-way is 350, and 550 for LHE-RGN! Can any give me guidance on a reasonable way to book a rewards flight for this, route ... is that possible?

Why not fly IndiGo to BKK (under £200 return) and then get an AirAsia flight from BKK to RGN?

Why not fly IndiGo to BKK (under £200 return) and then get an AirAsia flight from BKK to RGN?

That works! And a very fair price at that. 230+150+65us=me really happy.

Me too. 180 pounds one way to the apple ^

How are u getting that? I keep getting $1100 range....

There is still one other airline offering a fare to the US...so far I've only been able to price it one way. This is a Y fare with a fare basis of about $18-23 US.
Available to tea party and big apple, flying with one(world) of the middle eastern monarchies. Was able to price it at EX-uk. :D

Doesn't cost hardly anything extra to fly to the big apple via ORD, and since baggage inspection will occur there, it poses no problem regarding checked luggage. It prices nearly equivalently with a change of plane in LHR, but one would probably have to forego checked luggage to disembark there.;)

Which airport are you forcing the connection in SE Asia to get this to price?

Which airport are you forcing the connection in SE Asia to get this to price?

Not necessary to force anything in SE Asia. Just do a multistop following MKR-MR's advise. Too bad a stopover isn't possible, as Petra is really worth a visit.

Not necessary to force anything in SE Asia. Just do a multistop following MKR-MR's advise. Too bad a stopover isn't possible, as Petra is really worth a visit.

Interesting - I see this too, but seems to only work ex-Asia OW? depending on where you need to position to in the US, you can also get to the windy city for ~GBp350 (direct)

For the heck of it, I'm in for $278 in Y.
Doubt it will be a hassle to get that one honored.

Interesting - I see this too, but seems to only work ex-Asia OW? depending on where you need to position to in the US, you can also get to the windy city for ~GBp350 (direct)

I'm having no problem finding RT itineraries ex-RGN, $524.69 to JFK on Travelocity. Use multii-city in both directions, and take care that the TATL airline doesn't offer daily service from JFK (though they do offer partner airline connecting service via LHR).

[The Y fare supposedly permits unlimited stopovers, but I haven't been successful in finding these autopricing (though I admittedly haven't looked very hard).]

Now this is fun! Cheapest I've managed so far has been RGN - JFK for £169.50 one way. Travel can be made on lots of airlines across the alliances, and even on an unaligned five star airline! At least one of the long haul sectors can be done on a Star carrier although I've not checked the booking class of this one to see if it earns 100% on US (I suspect it would though).

Top tip - search as a multi city using unexpected airports in the Middle East to add extra sectors and bring the cost down further.

Question is... if I were to book this, what are the odds of it being cancelled?

Question is... if I were to book this, what are the odds of it being cancelled?

We cannot know that. Neither can you. However, numerous cases above have demonstrated that, if ticketed, the DoT will enforce the deal.

I can't get the multi-city function on travelocity.co.uk to work. I input the three digit airport code and it gives me an error telling me to select a valid departure point. Then I type in the full name and get the same error message. Frustrating.

I can't get the multi-city function on travelocity.co.uk to work. I input the three digit airport code and it gives me an error telling me to select a valid departure point. Then I type in the full name and get the same error message. Frustrating.

Try travelocity.com. No such problem there this evening.

Seriously can't believe this is still alive. I tried again to convince Mrs. Freezefactor to come along with me, but somehow the lure of spending all that time in Y didn't work.....

Interesting - I see this too, but seems to only work ex-Asia OW? depending on where you need to position to in the US, you can also get to the windy city for ~GBp350 (direct)

Did I somehow end up in the trick-it thread?

Seriously can't believe this is still alive. I tried again to convince Mrs. Freezefactor to come along with me, but somehow the lure of spending all that time in Y didn't work.....
Yes too bad is Y. Because you can backtrack, like using *A airline to europe before hitting the Middle and then the apple.

Do you still see that happening? I've been looking on ITA and Travelocity, but I haven't been able to find a cheap enough base fare—they're all looking normal. Any recommended stopovers/dates to force the fare?

EDIT: I meant in regards with the star carrier, I'm seeing the fare normally otherwise.

Now this is fun! Cheapest I've managed so far has been RGN - JFK for £169.50 one way. Travel can be made on lots of airlines across the alliances, and even on an unaligned five star airline! At least one of the long haul sectors can be done on a Star carrier although I've not checked the booking class of this one to see if it earns 100% on US (I suspect it would though).

Top tip - search as a multi city using unexpected airports in the Middle East to add extra sectors and bring the cost down further.

Question is... if I were to book this, what are the odds of it being cancelled?

I'm having no problem finding RT itineraries ex-RGN, $524.69 to JFK on Travelocity. Use multii-city in both directions, and take care that the TATL airline doesn't offer daily service from JFK (though they do offer partner airline connecting service via LHR).

[The Y fare supposedly permits unlimited stopovers, but I haven't been successful in finding these autopricing (though I admittedly haven't looked very hard).]

i got one ways to price, but how are you getting RT with only 4 columns? I need 5

Do you still see that happening? I've been looking on ITA and Travelocity, but I haven't been able to find a cheap enough base fare—they're all looking normal. Any recommended stopovers/dates to force the fare?

EDIT: I meant in regards with the star carrier, I'm seeing the fare normally otherwise.
ITA isn't our friend here...

Return to JNB on ET for £8 + tax of £289 :cool:

Other African destinations available!

Rubbish for me, I live in the UK!

Been playing around with this all morning, can't seem to get a R/T to JFK working.. Only one ways are pricing.

Can't find a connecting airport on the way back which gets this price..even when looking at the fare rules...

I think there are one ways only to NYC. Havn't seen anything contrary to that anyway.

Well, also to add you could use the 787 on the African fare.

I've seen some odd fares to YVR & Africa as well (in J, the latter return) which I couldn't price up (I think the ex-RGN leg is an issue), but havn't done a huge amount to play around with it. Be interested to see what anyone else comes up with.

Been playing around with this all morning, can't seem to get a R/T to JFK working.. Only one ways are pricing.

Can't find a connecting airport on the way back which gets this price..even when looking at the fare rules...

Still finding RT fares to JFK for $480 on XP.usa.
Sample dates departing RGN 12 Oct., AMM 13 Oct., JFK 13 Oct, AMM 15 Oct.

Return to JNB on ET for £8 + tax of £289 :cool:

Other African destinations available!

Rubbish for me, I live in the UK!
220 to the hub

YVR and lots of other small Canadian airports are also available on DL C.
For some BDA might be interesting due to the routing possibilities.

haven't been able to get YVR or BDA to price out in Y or C any clues/riddles would be appreciated.

JNB has (d?) limited availablity on ET, some segments in business doubled the price.

for those considering JED, same day turns w/ 4.5h on the ground are possible during some months, friday departures. It would effectively be two days/nights in KUL with an overnight out and back on a newish SV 777 in the middle. Still risky so research before purchasing... but probably the least risky unless you plan to buy onward travel from JED and thereby (maybe) be eligible for a transit visa. Travelnation is the only ITA i've found that will price these out without usurious fees.

I'm kind of amazed... the good folks at xp issued a ticket (512 stock) on this one in a matter of minutes. RGN to/from JFK. $520 because I wanted to start/end with specific TG segments.

I'm kind of amazed... the good folks at xp issued a ticket (512 stock) on this one in a matter of minutes. RGN to/from JFK. $520 because I wanted to start/end with specific TG segments.

Indeed they did :cool:
After amazing amounts of struggle and pain checking esoteric agencies, points of sale, etc, it was right there under our noses. I'm $2 cheaper because the TG segment I wanted was briefly unavailable in S class so I gave up and booked PG instead. Of course, this morning TG re-released S. Oh well.
This will lock in my AA EXP status for the year as well as potentially saving me from the headache of flying Air India with uncertain schedule. Am I the first FTer ever to cancel my long haul business class in favour of long haul economy? ;)

Hint for those still having trouble: XP.usa allows a larger number of segments on a multi-destination ticket than some of their sister sites do (uk and de being the problematic ones for this fare). It does sometimes choke, but if you repeat the search it will come up. You can spoon feed it both connecting points, which did the trick for me.

Thanks very much for highlighting this one, MKE-MR! I am also using this to eliminate the potential need for a last-minute run to keep AA EXP. I needed to position to RGN anyway for the biz-class jumbo, so I just added this onto the beginning of one of those (with a few days in the country). So this is very convenient for me - long flight in Y, but I'll survive. Thanks!

haven't been able to get YVR or BDA to price out in Y or C any clues/riddles would be appreciated.



Looking at the fare rules, travel must be on DL, which, AFAIK, has no codeshares to RGN.

Finally, I pulled one for Jan RGN-JFK RT. If I book another RT, say departing on the same day that I am finishing my first RT, will I be able to make to my outgoing flight in 1 hr? Both in and out flights are on TG. Do I need to clear immigration to get into my outbound flight? I read from the the posting of JanetDoe that VOA is now possible for those who are staying for less than 24hr. In my case, I am not sure if I will be required to get one.

Finally, I pulled one for Jan RGN-JFK RT. If I book another RT, say departing on the same day that I am finishing my first RT, will I be able to make to my outgoing flight in 1 hr? Both in and out flights are on TG. Do I need to clear immigration to get into my outbound flight? I read from the the posting of JanetDoe that VOA is now possible for those who are staying for less than 24hr. In my case, I am not sure if I will be required to get one.

i think it's really risky....TG will have 3 departures starting in OCT....why not overnight in BKK (how to use the fifth column on xp) and start again the following day. ^

Finally, I pulled one for Jan RGN-JFK RT. If I book another RT, say departing on the same day that I am finishing my first RT, will I be able to make to my outgoing flight in 1 hr? Both in and out flights are on TG. Do I need to clear immigration to get into my outbound flight? I read from the the posting of JanetDoe that VOA is now possible for those who are staying for less than 24hr. In my case, I am not sure if I will be required to get one.

I think the real issue is checking in for the origination of the second round trip. The other thread mentioned that even folks doing online check-in could not print a boarding pass. So you would need to somehow get a new boarding pass at RGN. I don't remember reading about anyone being able to get their boarding pass in BKK earlier in the day. There are cutoff times for check-in, and I don't know that the OLCI would qualify since you would not have your boarding documents.

And this isn't a mid-itinerary connection, where a carrier might accommodate a misconnect - this is the origination of travel. I would not count on the "flat-tire rule" to be allowed in Myanmar.

I would never in a million years start one of these tickets by arriving into RGN an hour earlier, even if it is on the same aircraft.

What booking class is this one booked to? Because L and Q only earn 50% with AA

How to find the booking class on RJordanian.com? I cant find it anywhere on my res, and my ITA didn't show it either (used an Indian one since the USD-Rupee exchange rate is so advantageous at the moment).

Also, so sad I booked a one way before people reported finding R/Ts!

Finally: any reason why MH can't load my res?

haven't been able to get YVR or BDA to price out in Y or C any clues/riddles would be appreciated.

I tried both yesterday and couldn't get it to price, and neither could my TA :(

Looking at the fare rules, travel must be on DL, which, AFAIK, has no codeshares to RGN.

Rules seem to permit one non-DL flight, so in theory:

RGN-TG-BKK
BKK-DL-NRT-LAX-JFK-BDA should work....

What booking class is this one booked to? Because L and Q only earn 50% with AA

The RJ fare to/from JFK is in Y (according to expertflyer).

Can anyone tell me how to see the booking class on EX.usa?
I got one, went over to rj site and can't see the booking class :(

The RJ fare to/from JFK is in Y (according to expertflyer).

Well it showed as Economy restricted on EX.... so I am concerned!

Go back to xp and enter the information as though you are buying a new ticket. When you select the itinerary and it prices, you will see some links on the bottom of the itinerary: airline liability, baggage fees, rules and restrictions of the fare.

Click on "rules and restrictions" and you will see the fare rules.

Fare Basis Code: Y

Finally, I pulled one for Jan RGN-JFK RT. If I book another RT, say departing on the same day that I am finishing my first RT, will I be able to make to my outgoing flight in 1 hr? Both in and out flights are on TG. Do I need to clear immigration to get into my outbound flight? I read from the the posting of JanetDoe that VOA is now possible for those who are staying for less than 24hr. In my case, I am not sure if I will be required to get one.

I also read that even the process of finishing the visa on arrival paperwork could take longer than 20-30 minutes. With paperwork plus clearing immigration (they are separate desks so you will be in a long line by the time you get your VOA), this is a bad idea. Just give yourself an extra day or some extra time--PG also works on the fare, and you're only giving up 390 miles...but ensuring a bit more piece of mind.

Go back to xp and enter the information as though you are buying a new ticket. When you select the itinerary and it prices, you will see some links on the bottom of the itinerary: airline liability, baggage fees, rules and restrictions of the fare.

Click on "rules and restrictions" and you will see the fare rules.

Fare Basis Code: Y

Got it!, thanks a lot!.... felt better now :)

Actually I bought mine for only $236.

RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK (MH, RJ, RJ, RJ)

I've got 2 trips on the RGN deal already (KE F and SQ F)... My family is in BKK so it will be a family visits.

Well it showed as Economy restricted on EX.... so I am concerned!

From ExpertFlyer

1 RGNNYC 16MAR13 RJ MMK 36.00 Y STAY---/-- BK-Y
FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES
-------- ---------------------- ----------
Y ECONOMY RESTRICTED FARES Y
Y BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND AREA 3 FOR ONE WAY FARES

BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER: AA
IF VIA RJ Y- FARES
VIA AA Y REQUIRED
VIA AA Y REQUIRED ALL ECONOMY NORMAL

I also read that even the process of finishing the visa on arrival paperwork could take longer than 20-30 minutes. With paperwork plus clearing immigration (they are separate desks so you will be in a long line by the time you get your VOA), this is a bad idea. Just give yourself an extra day or some extra time--PG also works on the fare, and you're only giving up 390 miles...but ensuring a bit more piece of mind.

Thank you soooo much for the details. Could you please suggest how to do the multi stop at xp site?? Thanks

Actually I bought mine for only $236.

RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK (MH, RJ, RJ, RJ)

I've got 2 trips on the RGN deal already (KE F and SQ F)... My family is in BKK so it will be a family visits.



Since you will be flying on many different airlines, what happens if one airline gets delayed....say Maynmar Air is delayed and you miss your Royal Jordanian flight.....what happens then? Because its not like flying, say, United the entire way....and if you miss a connection they put you on the next flight...

Able to get it to price out at roughly $250 for RGN - JFK.......anyone have any luck JFK-RGN?

amazing, I just flown back from safariland using this deal, bought in may ! ET eco SUCKS BigTime, but for the money paid can hardly complain.. Also if it worries anyone, I didn't had Myanmar visa on my return, but simply walked off the airport in Bkk, without questions asked ! Also now makes me want 2 explore more of Africa like Malawi or Zam/Zim.. If anyone interested in travel companion, feel free to pm me.. I'm contemplating to buy one more of those for a 3-5 days long hopover.. I'm based in Bkk

This fare is awesome for folks looking for AA status, because Y fares earn 1.5 points per mile towards status. In other words, on this 20,000 mile itinerary, you'll get 30,000 points towards status, assuming you route entirely on RJ. (The leg to BKK notwithstanding). For about $1800, it's possible to get AA's highest status.

I would note that LOTS of routing options are available between RGN and AMM. After AMM, I've only been able to find a few routing options that work. CDG, LHR, ORD. I'm sure others can do better.

This fare is great. I can't imagine it will last long, now that it has it's own thread. Go for it while you can!

amazing, I just flown back from safariland using this deal, bought in may ! ET eco SUCKS BigTime, but for the money paid can hardly complain.. Also if it worries anyone, I didn't had Myanmar visa on my return, but simply walked off the airport in Bkk, without questions asked ! Also now makes me want 2 explore more of Africa like Malawi or Zam/Zim.. If anyone interested in travel companion, feel free to pm me.. I'm contemplating to buy one more of those for a 3-5 days long hopover.. I'm based in Bkk

How about Lusaka, Zambia on ET. I saw 420 USD RT . Im still figuring out how to get it price in C for cheap. But it seems its impossible to find..But I will keep on looking.

Able to get it to price out at roughly $250 for RGN - JFK.......anyone have any luck JFK-RGN?

do multicity option on EX-US..

Anyway, back to topic, I was able to change the date of my ticket through EX-UK agent . Same fare, same fare class, changes fee FREE. Ticket was reissued successfully. Im good to go. All set for the big apple!

Again, big thanks to MKE-MR.

Just to confirm, am I the only one who cannot view a reservation using the provided pnr on MH? When I put it in, it is unable to load, and needs to be tried later. Anyone know why?

How about Lusaka, Zambia on ET. I saw 420 USD RT . Im still figuring out how to get it price in C for cheap. But it seems its impossible to find..But I will keep on looking.

I've been looking at the ET fare too, but I can't figure out how to price it in C, and I'm not doing them on Y and getting a Yellow fever shot on top of that too.

Since you will be flying on many different airlines, what happens if one airline gets delayed....say Maynmar Air is delayed and you miss your Royal Jordanian flight.....what happens then? Because its not like flying, say, United the entire way....and if you miss a connection they put you on the next flight...

I would say the ticketing carrier needs to be the one to rebook you, so RJ.

Anyway, back to topic, I was able to change the date of my ticket through EX-UK agent . Same fare, same fare class, changes fee FREE. Ticket was reissued successfully. Im good to go. All set for the big apple!

Again, big thanks to MKE-MR.

You forgot the golden rule of not calling the agency/airline
Just to confirm, am I the only one who cannot view a reservation using the provided pnr on MH? When I put it in, it is unable to load, and needs to be tried later. Anyone know why?

I can't either. But I won't call to get seats until the deal is dead, which might be awhile :D

How about Lusaka, Zambia on ET. I saw 420 USD RT . Im still figuring out how to get it price in C for cheap. But it seems its impossible to find..But I will keep on looking.

How are these african fares working? I haven't seen any prior posting about them. Is it RGN-AFRICA-JFK instead of RGN-AMM-JFK?

How are these african fares working? I haven't seen any prior posting about them. Is it RGN-AFRICA-JFK instead of RGN-AMM-JFK?

Im sorry, but its RGN-AFRICA-RGN Y fare on ET, its appearing on ITA matrix and bookable on EX-US or even EX-UK

I've been looking at the ET fare too, but I can't figure out how to price it in C, and I'm not doing them on Y and getting a Yellow fever shot on top of that too.


I already have the shot :D , been in NBO two years ago , so shot is still valid :D:D. What I need is to get there on C :D . Please do share if u found a way :D

Im interested in ZNZ or LUN ^

All ET fares were pulled today. Prolly going to happen with the rest too.

I can no longer get the RGN/KUL/BKK/AMM/JFK coach fare to book on EX/usa.

Can anyone recommend another OTA?

amazing, I just flown back from safariland using this deal, bought in may ! ET eco SUCKS BigTime, but for the money paid can hardly complain.. Also if it worries anyone, I didn't had Myanmar visa on my return, but simply walked off the airport in Bkk, without questions asked ! Also now makes me want 2 explore more of Africa like Malawi or Zam/Zim.. If anyone interested in travel companion, feel free to pm me.. I'm contemplating to buy one more of those for a 3-5 days long hopover.. I'm based in Bkk

Good to get some feed back on the ET fares. I have 2 RGN-BKK-ADD-JNB tickets also in Y.
Is ET cattle class any worse than UA/DL ?

I can no longer get the RGN/KUL/BKK/AMM/JFK coach fare to book on EX/usa.

Can anyone recommend another OTA?

it works okay as of this post

Is ET cattle class any worse than UA/DL ?
Actually ET has very old beatenup planes with great leather seats, but when it's filled upto the brim with african businessmen my size (6,4tall&wide) it feels small, also you've got 2filthy toilets for 3++pax..FAs routinely forget to offer drinks to some passengers, food in ADD & ex ADD :eek: .......

I can no longer get the RGN/KUL/BKK/AMM/JFK coach fare to book on EX/usa.

Can anyone recommend another OTA?

it works okay as of this post

I just booked this flight for May 2013 on EX.usa.

Just to confirm, am I the only one who cannot view a reservation using the provided pnr on MH? When I put it in, it is unable to load, and needs to be tried later. Anyone know why?

I saw your post in the other forum.

Just to clarify, what you have is the Airline Vendor Locator, not the PNR.

MH's VL is 5 digits, most airlines have 6 digits (so impossible to distinguish from the PNR).

The PNR (Passenger Name Record) is the 6 alphanumeric 'unique locator' that is used in the GDS your flights are booked in and will bring up all your flights on the ticket with all airlines. You will use this in checkmytrip, viewtrip or whatever the GDS being used where you booked the flights.

The 'Vendor Locator' is unique to the airline. This is what you are using and only MH can bring up details using this. This is because if you book your ticket on say Cheaptickets.com who use Sabre, and Malaysia Airlines use Galileo, MH can bring up your Cheaptickets MH flights using the MH VL.

If your ticket has 5 different airlines on (even if it's one ticket ticketed on 1 airline) within that there will be 5 different Vendor Locators, 1 for each airline. Hope that's not too confusing. There will be a PNR as well, but if you booked direct with MH, they will only give you the VL!

I saw your post in the other forum.

Just to clarify, what you have is the Airline Vendor Locator, not the PNR.

MH's VL is 5 digits, most airlines have 6 digits (so impossible to distinguish from the PNR).

The PNR (Passenger Name Record) is the 6 alphanumeric 'unique locator' that is used in the GDS your flights are booked in and will bring up all your flights on the ticket with all airlines. You will use this in checkmytrip, viewtrip or whatever the GDS being used where you booked the flights.

The 'Vendor Locator' is unique to the airline. This is what you are using and only MH can bring up details using this. This is because if you book your ticket on say Cheaptickets.com who use Sabre, and Malaysia Airlines use Galileo, MH can bring up your Cheaptickets MH flights using the MH VL.

If your ticket has 5 different airlines on (even if it's one ticket ticketed on 1 airline) within that there will be 5 different Vendor Locators, 1 for each airline. Hope that's not too confusing. There will be a PNR as well, but if you booked direct with MH, they will only give you the VL!

Ah, I see! Thank you for clarifying that. This is not something I've seen before when doing multi-city bookings, but its great to know an as I mentioned, really reassuring to know that my flight doesn't have any problems. Thanks for explaining!

The fare rules state unlimited stopovers, but when I try to add AMM to see Petra, it craps out and gives me fares of $2000+. Has anybody been able to add stopovers? I am using travelocity.com

Thanks

Also, any way to start this in BKK rather than RGN?

The fare rules state unlimited stopovers, but when I try to add AMM to see Petra, it craps out and gives me fares of $2000+. Has anybody been able to add stopovers? I am using travelocity.com

Thanks

Also, any way to start this in BKK rather than RGN?

Start in BKK is impossible, i try to play with AMM a bit, and i could only get a 23 hr AMM stop on the way back if you do QR AMM-DOH-RGN

Start in BKK is impossible, i try to play with AMM a bit, and i could only get a 23 hr AMM stop on the way back if you do QR AMM-DOH-RGN

How are we all getting to RGN? Expertflyer states $288 basefare for BKK-RGN.... seems outrages...

How are we all getting to RGN? Expertflyer states $288 basefare for BKK-RGN.... seems outrages...

Thai AirAsia seems to be most people picks
Also look into Bangkok Air

You might want to read the huge ex-RGN F/J thread, lots more goodies over there

I can no longer get the RGN/KUL/BKK/AMM/JFK coach fare to book on EX/usa.

Can anyone recommend another OTA?

2 rows on multi, rgn-amm,amm-jfk. MH was gone.TG/PG are the one left.

Start in BKK is impossible, i try to play with AMM a bit, and i could only get a 23 hr AMM stop on the way back if you do QR AMM-DOH-RGN

but throwing the last leg in BKK is possible even if you have luggage as the system can be forced to have transit in BKK on less than 24 hours.But Im thinking, since the last leg is a non oneworld airline and its under their flight numbers, would the miles to my one world ff be properly credited?Any thoughts?

How are we all getting to RGN? Expertflyer states $288 basefare for BKK-RGN.... seems outrages...

positioning in RGN can be done on Low cost carriers
from SIN on Jetstar
from KUL on Air Asia
from BKK on Air Asia

Start in BKK is impossible, i try to play with AMM a bit, and i could only get a 23 hr AMM stop on the way back if you do QR AMM-DOH-RGN

it doesnt priced if using QR on AMM-DOH-RGN leg, the system shows error. at least on EX- US

positioning in RGN can be done on Low cost carriers
from SIN on Jetstar
from KUL on Air Asia
from BKK on Air Asia

Do the Air Asia flights from BKK depart from the same new airport?

Is this fully refundable? EX says it is...

Is this fully refundable? EX says it is...

Indeed it is✈✈✈. BOoked on Y fare class., apparantly the highest Eco fare bucket 😝

Do the Air Asia flights from BKK depart from the same new airport?

Don't count on it... there is a lot of discussion in Bangkok now about moving some of the LCCs over to the old airport... I believe Thai Air Asia has accepted some of the incentives from the Airport Authority to move their flights to Don Mueang. So please do not book a short connection arriving into Suvarnabhumi and departing on Thai Air Asia.

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Start in BKK is impossible, i try to play with AMM a bit, and i could only get a 23 hr AMM stop on the way back if you do QR AMM-DOH-RGN

but throwing the last leg in BKK is possible even if you have luggage as the system can be forced to have transit in BKK on less than 24 hours.But Im thinking, since the last leg is a non oneworld airline and its under their flight numbers, would the miles to my one world ff be properly credited?Any thoughts?

Why wouldn't it? Each leg should post independently and different airlines would be a no brainer.
If the ff asks later why you miss your flight, just say getting a Thai Massage :D

Don't count on it... there is a lot of discussion in Bangkok now about moving some of the LCCs over to the old airport... I believe Thai Air Asia has accepted some of the incentives from the Airport Authority to move their flights to Don Mueang. So please do not book a short connection arriving into Suvarnabhumi and departing on Thai Air Asia.

Sounds like Don Mueang will become the LCC hub for Bangkok. Thai Air Asia will be the first to move to Don Mueang beginning October 1, 2012 with plans for 13 other LCC airlines to potentially move there in the coming months.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/299677/don-mueang-to-be-city-budget-air-hub

There will be shuttle buses and other public transport for passengers transferring from Suvarnabhumi to Don Mueang (and vice versa). But given Don Mueang is about 40 km from Suvarnabhumi, it could take 1-2 hours depending on traffic.
http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/bangkok/airports/suvarnabhumi_airport.html

but throwing the last leg in BKK is possible even if you have luggage as the system can be forced to have transit in BKK on less than 24 hours.But Im thinking, since the last leg is a non oneworld airline and its under their flight numbers, would the miles to my one world ff be properly credited?Any thoughts?

Simple summary:

Flying Air Asia: no miles
Flying Bangkok Air: no miles
Flying Thai: miles possible to Star Alliance. Not possible to oneworld.

It's less than 400 miles anyway.

^^^ my concern , since I have 15 hours or more transit time in Bkk, I can collect my luggage and just throw the Bkk- rgn leg which on PG. i
might be flag down by this one world carrier since I didn't technically complete my iterinary?. And worse will not credit the miles to my one world ff because of this illegal act or whatever It's called.

^^^ my concern , since I have 15 hours or more transit time in Bkk, I can collect my luggage and just throw the Bkk- rgn leg which on PG. i
might be flag down by this one world carrier since I didn't technically complete my iterinary?. And worse will not credit the miles to my one world ff because of this illegal act or whatever It's called.

I think that it would be unlikely for the miles from your earlier flights to not credit to your OneWorld carrier of choice given the different airlines/systems involved. There is always a chance that the ticketing airline will get upset that you did not fly all segments, but it's improbable. The caveats to my statement would be if you are a frequent abuser of this practice or if your BKK-RGN flight is a PG-OneWorld codeshare. But PG doesn't have any codeshares on this route with OneWorld carriers as far as I know (only with EY - http://info.flightmapper.net/route/YY_BKK_RGN).

In the end though YMMV.

on EX.us

on EX.us

indeed!

I think that it would be unlikely for the miles from your earlier flights to not credit to your OneWorld carrier of choice given the different airlines/systems involved. There is always a chance that the ticketing airline will get upset that you did not fly all segments, but it's improbable. The caveats to my statement would be if you are a frequent abuser of this practice or if your BKK-RGN flight is a PG-OneWorld codeshare. But PG doesn't have any codeshares on this route with OneWorld carriers as far as I know (only with EY - http://info.flightmapper.net/route/YY_BKK_RGN).

In the end though YMMV.

Indeed. I was talking about RJ which doesn't codeshare with PG nor TG.ANyway, Im good to go. Thanks for the insights!

indeed!

Yup. KVS (via Galileo) doesn't show RJ's $19 fare anymore. They pulled it.

:confused:is RJ's really gone now??geez..

Does anybody know alive destination??:(

Are people really surprised? This was going since April. That's two months of these fares being around.

I think it's utterly incompetent of RJ to still have these fares listed up until yesterday. Funny, granted, but incompetent.

What's even more astonishing is that you can still get to JED for $50 ow in J...

Are people really surprised? ...

I am sure that this thread didnt help getting it removed :td:

:confused:is RJ's really gone now??geez..

Does anybody know alive destination??:(

As Wozza2404 mentions SV to JED in J is still alive.
And there are a few destinations in Africa in ET Y.

Oh and those dummy fares on DL to YVR and BDA in J. :rolleyes:

As Wozza2404 mentions SV to JED in J is still alive.
And there are a few destinations in Africa in ET Y.

Oh and those dummy fares on DL to YVR and BDA in J. :rolleyes:

The ET Y has been pulled up, I tried, ZNZ, LUN, DAR, EBB, but it seems its nowhere to find. It should show up in ITA as I did a month search. Any idea on African destinations which is still has ET Y fare alive?

The ET Y has been pulled up, I tried, ZNZ, LUN, DAR, EBB, but it seems its nowhere to find. It should show up in ITA as I did a month search. Any idea on African destinations which is still has ET Y fare alive?

Not many places many people want to visit right now - CAI (Cairo), KRT (Khartoum), JUB (Juba).

Looking at May 2013.

As Wozza2404 mentions SV to JED in J is still alive.
And there are a few destinations in Africa in ET Y.

Oh and those dummy fares on DL to YVR and BDA in J. :rolleyes:

thx for info..

is 'dummy' means showed up on ita but unbookable?

thx for info..

is 'dummy' means showed up on ita but unbookable?

Doesn't appear to exist in ITA, but it is loaded in some systems such as Expertflyer which I'm using right now. Other FT'ers have tried to book it, but I haven't heard of anyone with success.
The fare rules in Expertflyer state "NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING."

So I'm just guessing they are dummy fares. Others more knowledgeable about this can correct me if I'm wrong.

It's too bad too because the fare basis to BDA via the Pacific is $16 RT and to YVR is $13.

Doesn't appear to exist in ITA, but it is loaded in some systems such as Expertflyer which I'm using right now. Other FT'ers have tried to book it, but I haven't heard of anyone with success.
The fare rules in Expertflyer state "NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING."

So I'm just guessing they are dummy fares. Others more knowledgeable about this can correct me if I'm wrong.

It's too bad too because the fare basis to BDA via the Pacific is $16 RT and to YVR is $13.

Well, a note about autopricing in the text rule has nothing to do with the fact whether or not the fare itself is able to autoprice (is can be seen in fare details/ routing rules in Sabre/ Expertflyer).

Such a text means that there are some elements which have to be checked manually (don't know if in reality the airlines can enforce this given the fare is autopriceable).

The problem with YVR etc fares is the flights restriction - DL flights only and there is no one from RGN (although some gurus/ moderators were trying to argue this was not the reason).

The problem with YVR etc fares is the flights restriction - DL flights only and there is no one from RGN (although some gurus/ moderators were trying to argue this was not the reason).
I always wondered: the YVR fare says IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO JKT/KUL
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY DL FLIGHT
ANY MI FLIGHT
ANY MH FLIGHT.so it would make sense we could use RGN-KUL on MH, wouldn't it?

Oh boy it's starting again ... Just got email from OTA canceling my ticket! Lol. Drama drama drama

Oh boy it's starting again ... Just got email from OTA canceling my ticket!

Care to state which OTA? I have ones on 2 different OTAs and neither have be touched for now

Well, a note about autopricing in the text rule has nothing to do with the fact whether or not the fare itself is able to autoprice (is can be seen in fare details/ routing rules in Sabre/ Expertflyer).

Such a text means that there are some elements which have to be checked manually (don't know if in reality the airlines can enforce this given the fare is autopriceable).

The problem with YVR etc fares is the flights restriction - DL flights only and there is no one from RGN (although some gurus/ moderators were trying to argue this was not the reason).

Ok thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure what that meant or the last line of the fare - "NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE". I just guessed that it was an instructional dummy fare since no one from FT managed to find a way to book it. Thanks.

Care to state which OTA? I have ones on 2 different OTAs and neither have be touched for now

+1
Also which stock was the ticket on.

Travelation is the OTA. I called and told them my eticket was issued and seats already assigned so I'm not accepting any cancellation 3 days after confirmation. It's 512 which I believe is RJ stock. Let's see what happens come Monday!

I also booked another 2 on Expedia and so far they're fine!

Travelation is the OTA. I called and told them my eticket was issued and seats already assigned so I'm not accepting any cancellation 3 days after confirmation. It's 512 which I believe is RJ stock. Let's see what happens come Monday!

512 is RJ. Oh well, you know the drill, talk to the DOT if they don't reinstate :D

Travelation is the OTA. I called and told them my eticket was issued and seats already assigned so I'm not accepting any cancellation 3 days after confirmation. It's 512 which I believe is RJ stock. Let's see what happens come Monday!

When is your trip? I have two tickets booked on RJ on Ex-UK and Ex-US. So far, no emails regarding cancellations or whatsoever.

When is your trip? I have two tickets booked on RJ on Ex-UK and Ex-US. So far, no emails regarding cancellations or whatsoever.

The ticket which was cancelled was a one way to JFK for May 2013. The funny thing is I have another one, a return in April that is still ok with the same OTA. The other two on Expedia are fine. I'm going to sit tight for now, give them some time to get it together. I know the drill and I have time! :)

This is what they said 3 days after charging cc and sending Eticket:

RESERVATION REQUEST*****
***THE AIRLINE(S) YOU CHOSE WERE
***UNABLE TO CONFIRM YOUR FLIGHTS AND/OR THE
***FARE FOR THE DATES REQUESTED. AS A RESULT
***YOU HAVE NO RESERVATION, NOTHING WILL BE
***CHARGED TO YOUR CREDIT CARD. PLEASE GO BACK TO THE
***WEBSITE AND TRY ALTERNATE DATES/TIMES/AIRLINES.
***WE ARE SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE. THANK YOU FOR
***USING OUR WEBSITE...

Not many places many people want to visit right now - CAI (Cairo), KRT (Khartoum), JUB (Juba).

Looking at May 2013.

Is this still available? I see the fare but I can't find it on xp or anywhere else...

The ticket which was cancelled was a one way to JFK for May 2013. The funny thing is I have another one, a return in April that is still ok with the same OTA. The other two on Expedia are fine. I'm going to sit tight for now, give them some time to get it together. I know the drill and I have time! :)

This is what they said 3 days after charging cc and sending Eticket:

RESERVATION REQUEST*****
***THE AIRLINE(S) YOU CHOSE WERE
***UNABLE TO CONFIRM YOUR FLIGHTS AND/OR THE
***FARE FOR THE DATES REQUESTED. AS A RESULT
***YOU HAVE NO RESERVATION, NOTHING WILL BE
***CHARGED TO YOUR CREDIT CARD. PLEASE GO BACK TO THE
***WEBSITE AND TRY ALTERNATE DATES/TIMES/AIRLINES.
***WE ARE SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE. THANK YOU FOR
***USING OUR WEBSITE...

so how on earth can they generate eticket numbers without the airline confirming it?something is wrong there based on that email. I have a trip booked for end of next month. I did not received any issues yet with ex- UK

so how on earth can they generate eticket numbers without the airline confirming it?something is wrong there based on that email. I have a trip booked for end of next month. I did not received any issues yet with ex- UK

Exactly! That was my question too!

This happened with the J fares as well. Tickets were being cancelled as late as a week after being booked.

If your fare touches the US, you're covered by DOT regs. If not, it's a legal battle.

This happened with the J fares as well. Tickets were being cancelled as late as a week after being booked.

If your fare touches the US, you're covered by DOT regs. If not, it's a legal battle.

Its a one way JFK ticket so I should be fine. Curiously I have a rt with same agency that is fine, no email, ... go figure....

In case anybody's interested, I'm in AMM lounge at the moment. Looks like I might be the first to fly this, or at least the first to report.
No troubles whatsoever checking in at RGN with Bangkok Air. At BKK, some drama as the agent said that "somebody had done something" to my ticket, but I never found out what--and eventually the boarding passes came out.

RJ economy product is fine. Seat pitch about 33", legroom comfortable enough but not that generous Seats on the 330 were new and quite hard. AVOD is new and functional on both 330 and 340 aircraft--selection is about 20 movies in English, mix of new and old. Nothing that great--bring your own entertainment.

Anyway, I'd call it a good value product for the price :D Just in case anybody wanted an on the ground report as to whether to expect hassles, sample size of one says it's OK.

In case anybody's interested, I'm in AMM lounge at the moment. Looks like I might be the first to fly this, or at least the first to report.
No troubles whatsoever checking in at RGN with Bangkok Air. At BKK, some drama as the agent said that "somebody had done something" to my ticket, but I never found out what--and eventually the boarding passes came out.

RJ economy product is fine. Seat pitch about 33", legroom comfortable enough but not that generous Seats on the 330 were new and quite hard. AVOD is new and functional on both 330 and 340 aircraft--selection is about 20 movies in English, mix of new and old. Nothing that great--bring your own entertainment.

Anyway, I'd call it a good value product for the price :D Just in case anybody wanted an on the ground report as to whether to expect hassles, sample size of one says it's OK.

Glad to hear everything is going smoothly!

BTW anyway to get free showers?

In case anybody's interested, I'm in AMM lounge at the moment. Looks like I might be the first to fly this, or at least the first to report.
No troubles whatsoever checking in at RGN with Bangkok Air. At BKK, some drama as the agent said that "somebody had done something" to my ticket, but I never found out what--and eventually the boarding passes came out.

RJ economy product is fine. Seat pitch about 33", legroom comfortable enough but not that generous Seats on the 330 were new and quite hard. AVOD is new and functional on both 330 and 340 aircraft--selection is about 20 movies in English, mix of new and old. Nothing that great--bring your own entertainment.

Anyway, I'd call it a good value product for the price :D Just in case anybody wanted an on the ground report as to whether to expect hassles, sample size of one says it's OK.

perfect ^^^ Im good then. I have the same flight next month :D thanks

Glad to hear everything is going smoothly!

BTW anyway to get free showers?

Shower in BKK. No lounge in RGN (at least for the PG variant). If you're on TG, I'm still pretty sure no showers in RGN :D

TG lounge is used by RJ, so if you have oneworld status that's where you'll be. As you walk to E pier, there are dueling lounges on the left and right. I prefer left as it's larger--and the showers are near the toilets, 180 left after you go in past the desk. Amman the sign clearly did charge for showers, and we decided it wasn't necessary to even try to ask. No reports that I've seen have ever indicated somebody successfully talking their way into the shower for free.

There was a long line for transit in AMM but it seemed to be all from our flight, nothing else landing at that hour. Lounge was very quiet until about 1 hr before boarding, then was suddenly heaving. Our flight to JFK was delayed 1 hr by "congestion at checkin" and indeed what I thought was a half full flight became 100% by an hour later as people kept filtering in. I guess the new airport can't open soon enough.

Not to go too far into trip report territory, but the second flight was somewhat less pleasant than the first. Maybe combination of weekend and summer, but we were absolutely surrounded by kids of all ages, shapes, and sizes--but a uniform standard of (mis)behaviour. It was getting old by hour 11...
Food, however, was a pleasant surprise (didn't eat on the leg from BKK). And for some reason, on the ship we were on (AIA), the HK seats in the second economy section have HUGE legroom--like 35-36". They were very obviously misaligned with the other rows. So if you like legroom, I'd go for that.
And a real surprise--at the hour we came in (1 hour late), customs and immigration at JFK was EMPTY! ^ We were on the AirTrain within 20-30 minutes of landing.

Just got email from Expedia. Royal Jordanian has cancelled two other ticketed reservations I had. They had canceled a previous reservation for which I have a pending DOT complaint. Has this happened to anyone else? Also does anyone have access to the fare rules for these Y tickets with Royal Jordanian from RGN? TIA!

Just got email from Expedia. Royal Jordanian has cancelled two other ticketed reservations I had. They had canceled a previous reservation for which I have a pending DOT complaint. Has this happened to anyone else? Also does anyone have access to the fare rules for these Y tickets with Royal Jordanian from RGN? TIA!

How about sharing which flights and when they were for got cancelled? Did you try looking for them ever on rj website?

Shower in BKK. No lounge in RGN (at least for the PG variant). If you're on TG, I'm still pretty sure no showers in RGN :D

TG lounge is used by RJ, so if you have oneworld status that's where you'll be. As you walk to E pier, there are dueling lounges on the left and right. I prefer left as it's larger--and the showers are near the toilets, 180 left after you go in past the desk. Amman the sign clearly did charge for showers, and we decided it wasn't necessary to even try to ask. No reports that I've seen have ever indicated somebody successfully talking their way into the shower for free.

There was a long line for transit in AMM but it seemed to be all from our flight, nothing else landing at that hour. Lounge was very quiet until about 1 hr before boarding, then was suddenly heaving. Our flight to JFK was delayed 1 hr by "congestion at checkin" and indeed what I thought was a half full flight became 100% by an hour later as people kept filtering in. I guess the new airport can't open soon enough.

Not to go too far into trip report territory, but the second flight was somewhat less pleasant than the first. Maybe combination of weekend and summer, but we were absolutely surrounded by kids of all ages, shapes, and sizes--but a uniform standard of (mis)behaviour. It was getting old by hour 11...
Food, however, was a pleasant surprise (didn't eat on the leg from BKK). And for some reason, on the ship we were on (AIA), the HK seats in the second economy section have HUGE legroom--like 35-36". They were very obviously misaligned with the other rows. So if you like legroom, I'd go for that.
And a real surprise--at the hour we came in (1 hour late), customs and immigration at JFK was EMPTY! ^ We were on the AirTrain within 20-30 minutes of landing.

All very helpful. Did you manage to ever work out their bulk head and exit row policy? Or snag one of these seats?

Just got email from Expedia. Royal Jordanian has cancelled two other ticketed reservations I had. They had canceled a previous reservation for which I have a pending DOT complaint. Has this happened to anyone else? Also does anyone have access to the fare rules for these Y tickets with Royal Jordanian from RGN? TIA!

really, I have flight on the same routing booked on Ex-UK at the end of this month, so far, no email or any issues at all.

SOmebody, the OP, already utilized said ticket without hassle.
Can u share the details?

Just checked with TG and RJ website, my etickets numbers are intact, status all confirmed.

How about sharing which flights and when they were for got cancelled? Did you try looking for them ever on rj website?

The flights which were cancelled were cancelled on August 1 and are the following:

1. DEP 1/23/2013 RGN-BKK-AMM-JFK RET 3/20/2013 JFK-LHR-AMM-BKK-RGN
Purchased: 6/22/2012

2. DEP 3/25/2013 RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK RET 3/27/2013 JFK-ORD-AMM-BKK- RGN Purchased: 6/23/2012

Both of these tickets were booked on Expedia. At first when I called Expedia said it was a schedule change and that the airline had to cancel because they weren't operating those flights that day. When I told them that on RJ's website the flights were operating they said they would get back to me in 48 hours. They said someone from RJ's New York office would call. Never heard anything from him even though I called and tried to reach him. When I called Expedia two days later because I hadn't head anything they said that they were refunding because I had not accepted any of their alternatives they had proposed and also because I had requested a refund! I never requested a refund! RJ cancelled these tickets. It was upsetting that Expedia said that they had spoken to me and I had requested the refund, which is not true! Why would Expedia do that? I've used Expedia for years and it was very disappointing to be let down like that by them.


Also my friend's ticket purchased on Travelocity has also been cancelled. Same dates and flights as mine on 1/23/2013

I have now filed the DOT complaints.

RJ cancelled these tickets. It was upsetting that Expedia said that they had spoken to me and I had requested the refund, which is not true! Why would Expedia do that? I've used Expedia for years and it was very disappointing to be let down like that by them.

It looks like it is rather online agent's well known 'service' (or the complete absence of it) which is guilty here, rather than RJ.

Similar tale for me. Vayama has said my KE return flight from BKK-SEL-YVR has been cancelled due to a schedule change in BKK. However the flight is still operating on both Vayama and KE websites. Since July 30 I have emailed twice and spoken to Vayama 3 times but still no resolution. Although my flight is not until December I have booked my connecting flights in anticipation of this fare being honoured. Interesting my TG RGN-BKK return is still confirmed.
I will escalate this if my KE cancellation is not reinstated by early next week.

Hmm.. I was threatened by Vayama last month , less than a week before my departure on SV to Jeddah, they wrote me , that airline told them they needed to cancel, or if I don't contact them I'll be denied boarding .. I ignored , very stressful , had to go without luggage fully prepared to get my butt kicked , but airline never blinked an eye :d
Had the cheapest flight of my life :) BKK RGN on airasia costed me more !
So guess they threaten you into "voluntarily" agreeing to ticket cancellation , not a fair play

Hmm.. I was threatened by Vayama last month , less than a week before my departure on SV to Jeddah, they wrote me , that airline told them they needed to cancel, or if I don't contact them I'll be denied boarding .. I ignored , very stressful , had to go without luggage fully prepared to get my butt kicked , but airline never blinked an eye :d
Had the cheapest flight of my life :) BKK RGN on airasia costed me more !
So guess they threaten you into "voluntarily" agreeing to ticket cancellation , not a fair play

They don't seem to care about your consent! They'll make it up if they have to. They cancelled me, said I refused other options and requested a refund! Are you kidding me? Why would I do that? Their first email said "RJ has cancelled 5 or your 7 flights". The stories are an attempt to cover up for that! End of story.

Their first email said "RJ has cancelled 5 or your 7 flights". The stories are an attempt to cover up for that! End of story.
weird.. did you checked your bookings with checkmytrip, or some other independent source ?!? I also honestly beleived that I'm screwed, until checking on checkmytrip daily.. weird things were happening. Vayama is plain scary, wouldn't book with them , unless I have no other choice.. Apparently there WAS something not right with my tickets > they or whoever made 2 tickets out of one few days before my trip, I couldn't checkin online..
But in the airports all went well, still can't figure it out.. "black magic" sort of unexplicable stuff :S .. but I was fully prepared to be stranded on any segment of my trip ! Which fortunately didn't happened .. Maybe there some ways for airline to reinstate tickets, that were "messed up by vayama" on short notice ..

The flights which were cancelled were cancelled on August 1 and are the following:

1. DEP 1/23/2013 RGN-BKK-AMM-JFK RET 3/20/2013 JFK-LHR-AMM-BKK-RGN
Purchased: 6/22/2012

2. DEP 3/25/2013 RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK RET 3/27/2013 JFK-ORD-AMM-BKK- RGN Purchased: 6/23/2012

Both of these tickets were booked on Expedia. At first when I called Expedia said it was a schedule change and that the airline had to cancel because they weren't operating those flights that day. When I told them that on RJ's website the flights were operating they said they would get back to me in 48 hours. They said someone from RJ's New York office would call. Never heard anything from him even though I called and tried to reach him. When I called Expedia two days later because I hadn't head anything they said that they were refunding because I had not accepted any of their alternatives they had proposed and also because I had requested a refund! I never requested a refund! RJ cancelled these tickets. It was upsetting that Expedia said that they had spoken to me and I had requested the refund, which is not true! Why would Expedia do that? I've used Expedia for years and it was very disappointing to be let down like that by them.


Also my friend's ticket purchased on Travelocity has also been cancelled. Same dates and flights as mine on 1/23/2013

I have now filed the DOT complaints.
Interesting. I`m all good so far but checking daily. Hopefully with so many DOTs being filed they still discontinue cancelling bookings.

Interesting. I`m all good so far but checking daily. Hopefully with so many DOTs being filed they still discontinue cancelling bookings.


Are you flying next year? My flights are all for next year and they are telling me that RJ won't be flying this route next year however when I go to RJ's and Expedia's website to check, all the flights are operating and can be booked, albeit at a higher price. So they are telling me the flights are cancelled yet they are all available on their websites! Does this make any sense?

Are you flying next year? My flights are all for next year and they are telling me that RJ won't be flying this route next year however when I go to RJ's and Expedia's website to check, all the flights are operating and can be booked, albeit at a higher price. So they are telling me the flights are cancelled yet they are all available on their websites! Does this make any sense?

Yeah next year. I have just looked through all these press releases and sure they are cutting routes but i hardly think they will cut the JFK route. Seems like a bit of an overkill. So far my bookings are still safe.

Just got email from Expedia. Royal Jordanian has cancelled two other ticketed reservations I had. They had canceled a previous reservation for which I have a pending DOT complaint. Has this happened to anyone else? Also does anyone have access to the fare rules for these Y tickets with Royal Jordanian from RGN? TIA!

Are you flying next year? My flights are all for next year and they are telling me that RJ won't be flying this route next year however when I go to RJ's and Expedia's website to check, all the flights are operating and can be booked, albeit at a higher price. So they are telling me the flights are cancelled yet they are all available on their websites! Does this make any sense?

For uptwn132, I have 1 this year and 1 next year, 1 of those is ticketed by Expedia.
So far mine are safe, I even went to their ticketing office to acquire info about changes and they said its a full fare, you can change anytime.

I hope you have sent a complaint to the DOT about EX cancelling it

For uptwn132, I have 1 this year and 1 next year, 1 of those is ticketed by Expedia.
So far mine are safe, I even went to their ticketing office to acquire info about changes and they said its a full fare, you can change anytime.

I hope you have sent a complaint to the DOT about EX cancelling it

I filed several complaints and recently heard back on the first one. They blamed the travel agency. Their argument was even though they issued the ticket, they had nothing to do with cancelling it, claimed they hadn't either charged cc, basically this was only between me and TA. Then they went on to say it was a mistake fare, an obvious error they were aware of but had neglected to correct in time.. Basically blamed me for buying an $18 Y ticket from RGN to JFK!

I filed several complaints and recently heard back on the first one. They blamed the travel agency. Their argument was even though they issued the ticket, they had nothing to do with cancelling it, claimed they hadn't either charged cc, basically this was only between me and TA. Then they went on to say it was a mistake fare, an obvious error they were aware of but had neglected to correct in time.. Basically blamed me for buying an $18 Y ticket from RGN to JFK!
Wow that`s the lamest response ever. Just claim there`s so many deals out there that you just saw a total of some 500 USD and thought it was a super special.

Does anyone out there know if it is possible to do an immediate turnaround at JED airport? I have to admit I am a bit afraid of getting stopped there and maybe it's a bad idea...
I read through the thread but I'm still ot sure whether an immediate turnaround makes me eligible for a transit visa...
I might just go to the embassy. Maybe they'll have a good day and give me a visa :-)
Has anyone flewn it?

I doubt that they will let you bord the aircraft in KUL...
Theoretically, you could transit in JED for a flight to MNL, CGK, etc. Then the following rules would apply:

Visa information - Transit - Saudi Arabia (SA)

TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Holders of onward tickets for a max. transit time of 18 hours when inbound flight is operated by Saudi Arabian Airlines; or

Visa required, except for Holders of onward tickets for a max.
transit time of 8 hours when inbound flight is not operated by Saudi Arabian Airlines.
- Only one transit stop-over in Saudi Arabia is permitted.
- Except when flying on Saudi Arabian Airlines, where a second transit point is permitted.

Link: KLM (http://www.klm.com/travel/ch_en/prepare_for_travel/travel_planning/travel_clinic/visaform.htm)

If you plan to make a turnaround (i.ex. KUL-JED-KUL), the 'normal' Visa rules apply as this would not count as a transit (without visa):

Transit Without Visa (TWOV):
Passing through an international transit area of the airport in order to board a connecting (or to proceed by the same) flight, without entering the country (i.e. clearing immigration).

Unless stated otherwise, passengers wishing to TWOV must:
- be en-route to a third country (e.g. itinerary TYO-LON-TYO is not considered TWOV);
- prove that they will continue their journey within the
prescribed period (e.g. hold onward tickets);
- have documents required for entry into the country of
destination and for transit through countries en-route;
- remain in the transit area (airside) or on the aircraft.

Thanks a lot,
Maybe SV has another interesting fare to add to the other one :D
That would be awesome.

I guess I'll just print a flight schedule and go to the embassy, explain them how cheap and awesome the flight is. Maybe they think the same way and give me a transit visa. I just live 2 blocks from the embassy so it's not a big deal.
I've read posts about travelers who got transit visas from the UAE to Qatar overland which would not be possible according to visa rules.

I'll post my experiences in a few days...

Any ideas on the CAI fare etc? Trying to get from RGN to nearby Europe on the cheap.. At the moment looking at JED... but dry J doesn't sound too fun :(

Any ideas on the CAI fare etc? Trying to get from RGN to nearby Europe on the cheap.. At the moment looking at JED... but dry J doesn't sound too fun :(

Seems to be an ET ticket and it requires it to be issued on ET stock... the Ethiopian site doesn't allow you to select RGN as a departure city and can't seem to find the fare on matrix.
So it might be unbookable for now...

The Saudia one has tons of availability (with 22 hour layovers in KUL)... I believe that if you have an ongoing ticket to another country, you should be able to TWOV (within 8 hours). But haven’t heard of anyone who has flown it...

Seems to be an ET ticket and it requires it to be issued on ET stock... the Ethiopian site doesn't allow you to select RGN as a departure city and can't seem to find the fare on matrix.
So it might be unbookable for now...

The Saudia one has tons of availability (with 22 hour layovers in KUL)... I believe that if you have an ongoing ticket to another country, you should be able to TWOV (within 8 hours). But haven’t heard of anyone who has flown it...

I have worked out the ET fare perfectly, and it still prices out at full fare city by city.. Big Shame :(

Seems to be an ET ticket and it requires it to be issued on ET stock... the Ethiopian site doesn't allow you to select RGN as a departure city and can't seem to find the fare on matrix.
So it might be unbookable for now...

The Saudia one has tons of availability (with 22 hour layovers in KUL)... I believe that if you have an ongoing ticket to another country, you should be able to TWOV (within 8 hours). But haven’t heard of anyone who has flown it...

In theory one could buy another ticket with Saudia to Amman (120+ euros) and fly from there with Easyjet to London... Might be a little too extreme for me but still it's good fare to Kuala Lumpur assuming they dont check all the documents at RGN.

Seems to be an ET ticket and it requires it to be issued on ET stock... the Ethiopian site doesn't allow you to select RGN as a departure city and can't seem to find the fare on matrix.
So it might be unbookable for now...

There are no routing rules attached so not bookable. Well, at least this is what EF shows.

Some people reported successful bookings of fares without routing rules in EF though previously.

So I've just come back from the Saudi embassy - that didn't go too well :D
No way I could do an immediate turnaround there. If the final destination on the ticket is Saudi Arabia I would need the required documents to enter the kingdom - which of course I couldn't get.

So I'll only fly it from RGN to KUL.

Too bad the fare is still out there and it's not possible to take advantage of it

So I've just come back from the Saudi embassy - that didn't go too well :D
No way I could do an immediate turnaround there. If the final destination on the ticket is Saudi Arabia I would need the required documents to enter the kingdom - which of course I couldn't get.

So I'll only fly it from RGN to KUL.

Too bad the fare is still out there and it's not possible to take advantage of it

What if you had a separate onward ticket say to DXB or DOH? Wouldn't that count?

What if you had a separate onward ticket say to DXB or DOH? Wouldn't that count?

Yes..

What if you had a separate onward ticket say to DXB or DOH? Wouldn't that count?

Yes, but for me the price of international tickets out of KSA is too high... For the price I would get, it wouldn't be worth doing it.
But to create a O/W to C2 probably a good idea...

Yes, but for me the price of international tickets out of KSA is too high... For the price I would get, it wouldn't be worth doing it.
But to create a O/W to C2 probably a good idea...

i'm going to use it as a ow to c2: JED-IST for 133e and IST-TXL for <50 Euro

i'm going to use it as a ow to c2: JED-IST for 133e and IST-TXL for <50 Euro

Those considering doing transit at JED might want to know that the only way to transfer between terminals, is taking a 8 km taxi ride. At least based on wikipedia.

Is the fare still alive? Not pulling out anything less than USD770 ai, even that is not on a DL segment.

Or maybe I'm doing it wrong? I simply put in Yangon as the start, SFO (for eg) as the end point.

One more quick question.. On Orbitz, I managed to find the the fare basis, but I can't seem to find how to find which class the itinerary is booked into for each segment. Any clues?

Is the fare still alive? Not pulling out anything less than USD770 ai, even that is not on a DL segment.

Or maybe I'm doing it wrong? I simply put in Yangon as the start, SFO (for eg) as the end point.

that fare has been dead for months... the RGN-YVR for 80 bucks came abck from the dead last week... but right now the only live one is RGB-JED on MH/SV...

One more quick question.. On Orbitz, I managed to find the the fare basis, but I can't seem to find how to find which class the itinerary is booked into for each segment. Any clues?

You need also ticketing date and Expertflyer - see booking classes for the primary and secondary carriers.

Is the fare still alive? Not pulling out anything less than USD770 ai, even that is not on a DL segment.

Or maybe I'm doing it wrong? I simply put in Yangon as the start, SFO (for eg) as the end point.
SFO is also the wrong destination. Further north is better

Check in partially for my RJ flight tomorrow, wish me luck! :)

I thought this thread was more or less about the RJ Y JFK/BOS deal?
Why is SV JED lumped in here, isn't that J territory? :confused:

No booze on SV J.... It's pretty much Y to me ;)

Check in partially for my RJ flight tomorrow, wish me luck! :)

I thought this thread was more or less about the RJ Y JFK/BOS deal?
Why is SV JED lumped in here, isn't that J territory? :confused:

Good luck with the flight. Look forward to the report. I'm doing the trip in Jan.

No booze on SV J.... It's pretty much Y to me ;)

Touche :p
I guess most of the AA people on Flyertalk have an excuse :D

Good luck with the flight. Look forward to the report. I'm doing the trip in Jan.

I doubt you're going to see a report from me on this one, I haven't had time to finish my last report nevermind starting a new one.
I'm hoping to get op-ups though, both my flights are Y0 @:-)

Touche :p
I guess most of the AA people on Flyertalk have an excuse :D



I doubt you're going to see a report from me on this one, I haven't had time to finish my last report nevermind starting a new one.
I'm hoping to get op-ups though, both my flights are Y0 @:-)

Mine are still wide open... :( but it's still 5 months away, so... haha... good luck with it though~ two 10-hr coach does sound intimidating...

TG and RJ in less than 48 hours..... Will come back here , how it goes.....I dont expect to be bumped with the price I paid , but hey, im on highest Y fare bucket hahaha.

Mine are still wide open... :( but it's still 5 months away, so... haha... good luck with it though~ two 10-hr coach does sound intimidating...

I think it has to do with end of summer vacation for school kids, otherwise it couldn't possibly be full.
My flight have been zeroed out in Y for awhile

TG and RJ in less than 48 hours..... Will come back here , how it goes.....I dont expect to be bumped with the price I paid , but hey, im on highest Y fare bucket hahaha.

I'm via MH/RJ myself, a very long way to get to YYZ by thurs night
Oh Christ :eek::eek::eek:

What do you mean I can't get op-up? :p
I have a Full Y ticket and I'm Oneworld Emerald.
Unless there is a RJ Platinum around, who is it???? :D

Seriously I tried to search on FT for procedures for RJ operational-upgrades and couldn't find anything

Reporting from the RJ AMM Crown Lounge.

Routing for my ticket is RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK.

KUL-AMM was a through flight, didn't get an op-up
Through flight hurts me for op-up purposes I'm sure so hoping for the best for AMM-JFK
I bought the exit row for all the RJ legs just for good measure.
I haven't flown long haul in Y for years.

RJ isn't really automated in doing this any upgrades.
You can only buy exit row or upgrade at the station you're flying out from.

Counters open at 7pm at KUL, stand in Aisle F where Emirates is at if you're early.
MH handles for RJ in KUL.
250 MYR/80 USD for Exit Row KUL-AMM
or 2150 MYR/685 USD for Crown Class
Payable in Malaysia Ringgit only at KUL. They don't take credit card @:-)
MH Golden Lounge at KUL, sweet :)
Only Business Class side, no First Class lounge for Emeralds.
The check-in guy had to resort to a binder to figure out benefits (lounge access) for Emeralds,
all I got was the Malaysian Ohh....

Stay on plane while at BKK
1 Dinner for KUL-BKK and 1 Dinner + 1 Continental Breakfast for BKK-AMM
25A/J windows seats are best in economy followed by 25B/H, most other seats aren't good, row 5 bulkhead is narrow on the RJ 332

Same problem for buying exit row in AMM, I needed an escort to take me down to the ticket office outside security to do it.

100 USD for Exit Row or 1000 USD for Crown Class, accepts Visa and charged in Jordanian Dinar.
RJ Crown Lounge has breads and yogurt, didn't find any eggs or warm meats in the morning.

Made it to Saudi.. Great flight I have to say. Although coming here without a proper visa isn't for the faint of heart. Was made to wear pants on boarding. Lucky I had my carryon. Also made sure to load up on drinks at klia.

Got 6H on the AMM-JFK sector for the RJ 342.
I would say that is the best seat along with 6J, its really narrow even for me but the legroom is fantastic. 6J can kinda of use the slide a bits away as a legrest for sure.
The only problem would be the galley light if someone can't sleep past that.
Oh well, 26 hrs of Economy Class flying are done for me.
RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK-YYZ.
I doubt I would use the return considering it is pretty hard on the body, probably stick to Business/First Class for the future :D

Reporting from the RJ AMM Crown Lounge.

Routing for my ticket is RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK.

KUL-AMM was a through flight, didn't get an op-up
Through flight hurts me for op-up purposes I'm sure so hoping for the best for AMM-JFK
I bought the exit row for all the RJ legs just for good measure.
I haven't flown long haul in Y for years.

RJ isn't really automated in doing this any upgrades.
You can only buy exit row or upgrade at the station you're flying out from.

Counters open at 7pm at KUL, stand in Aisle F where Emirates is at if you're early.
MH handles for RJ in KUL.
250 MYR/80 USD for Exit Row KUL-AMM
or 2150 MYR/685 USD for Crown Class
Payable in Malaysia Ringgit only at KUL. They don't take credit card @:-)
MH Golden Lounge at KUL, sweet :)
Only Business Class side, no First Class lounge for Emeralds.
The check-in guy had to resort to a binder to figure out benefits (lounge access) for Emeralds,
all I got was the Malaysian Ohh....

Stay on plane while at BKK
1 Dinner for KUL-BKK and 1 Dinner + 1 Continental Breakfast for BKK-AMM
25A/J windows seats are best in economy followed by 25B/H, most other seats aren't good, row 5 bulkhead is narrow on the RJ 332

Same problem for buying exit row in AMM, I needed an escort to take me down to the ticket office outside security to do it.

100 USD for Exit Row or 1000 USD for Crown Class, accepts Visa and charged in Jordanian Dinar.
RJ Crown Lounge has breads and yogurt, didn't find any eggs or warm meats in the morning.
Great information. Shame Emeralds don't get free exit rows on check in.

All rows 6-11 on the JFK - AMM route are all blocked. Any ideas which seats are good? Same with AMM-BKK? Aside from 6j? Naturally those exit rows i bet are amazing! I am praying MH will be part of OW when i do my flights.

Great information. Shame Emeralds don't get free exit rows on check in.

All rows 6-11 on the JFK - AMM route are all blocked. Any ideas which seats are good? Same with AMM-BKK? Aside from 6j? Naturally those exit rows i bet are amazing! I am praying MH will be part of OW when i do my flights.

It is a shame, 6-11 is blocked, if you are Emerald and I don't know if you are or not, you can call into RJ and they can assign you the blocked seats.
Exit row can only be assigned day-of if you are paying or if they are so booked they have to place you there.
The middle bulkhead on the 342 isn't bad either and 7A/C can be a bulkhead or exit row depending on config.

AMM-BKK, same deal, front is blocked but can be called in to be unblocked if Emerald except for exit.
MH was good ex-RGN, I got a exit row assign at check-in T-2 3/4 hrs.
Make sure to get an exit row on MH as only exit row and bulkhead aisle have good legroom, those seats were 30" seat pitch for regular.

If I were you, and if you route via KUL, I would at least pay the exit row on the KUL-BKK-AMM since you will be sleeping on that leg, I didn't eat the first meal ex-BKK and that's unheard of for me.

The only caveat emptor I have for you, RJ loves assigning kids near the front of the cabin, so bring your headsets

It is a shame, 6-11 is blocked, if you are Emerald and I don't know if you are or not, you can call into RJ and they can assign you the blocked seats.
Exit row can only be assigned day-of if you are paying or if they are so booked they have to place you there.
The middle bulkhead on the 342 isn't bad either and 7A/C can be a bulkhead or exit row depending on config.

AMM-BKK, same deal, front is blocked but can be called in to be unblocked if Emerald except for exit.
MH was good ex-RGN, I got a exit row assign at check-in T-2 3/4 hrs.
Make sure to get an exit row on MH as only exit row and bulkhead aisle have good legroom, those seats were 30" seat pitch for regular.

If I were you, and if you route via KUL, I would at least pay the exit row on the KUL-BKK-AMM since you will be sleeping on that leg, I didn't eat the first meal ex-BKK and that's unheard of for me.

The only caveat emptor I have for you, RJ loves assigning kids near the front of the cabin, so bring your headsets

Thanks for all the info... I just did a round of ex-RGN F/J trip and already feel exhausted... Can't really imagine myself doing the same trip in Y... T.T

It is a shame, 6-11 is blocked, if you are Emerald and I don't know if you are or not, you can call into RJ and they can assign you the blocked seats.
Exit row can only be assigned day-of if you are paying or if they are so booked they have to place you there.
The middle bulkhead on the 342 isn't bad either and 7A/C can be a bulkhead or exit row depending on config.

AMM-BKK, same deal, front is blocked but can be called in to be unblocked if Emerald except for exit.
MH was good ex-RGN, I got a exit row assign at check-in T-2 3/4 hrs.
Make sure to get an exit row on MH as only exit row and bulkhead aisle have good legroom, those seats were 30" seat pitch for regular.

If I were you, and if you route via KUL, I would at least pay the exit row on the KUL-BKK-AMM since you will be sleeping on that leg, I didn't eat the first meal ex-BKK and that's unheard of for me.

The only caveat emptor I have for you, RJ loves assigning kids near the front of the cabin, so bring your headsets

Okay thanks exactly what I'm looking for. The ten million dollar question is if you pay to crown, do you get miles etc for original booking class or business class?

I'm doing two return rgn JFK back to back which when I look at it sounds like MR from hell. I'm trying to sleep on bkk time but on the return leg I'm going to have a hard time doing that. Got plenty of sleeping pull which should help!

would be interested to hear any JED experiences with separate onward tickets, or immediate returns. I know at least a few brave souls here have done it.

would be interested to hear any JED experiences with separate onward tickets, or immediate returns. I know at least a few brave souls here have done it.

Not a problem at all even traveled with my unwed GF... No Turn around is possible though as you must go to another country... Transit will be a PITA if you are not transiting on SV as there is a small SV desk when you get off the bus.. I had to wait a few hours for a NAS rep to bring my BPs, and escort to security...

Not a problem at all even traveled with my unwed GF... No Turn around is possible though as you must go to another country... Transit will be a PITA if you are not transiting on SV as there is a small SV desk when you get off the bus.. I had to wait a few hours for a NAS rep to bring my BPs, and escort to security...

So an SV-SV transfer would be easy eh? hmmmm... thats good to know.

Got 6H on the AMM-JFK sector for the RJ 342.
I would say that is the best seat along with 6J, its really narrow even for me but the legroom is fantastic. 6J can kinda of use the slide a bits away as a legrest for sure.
The only problem would be the galley light if someone can't sleep past that.
Oh well, 26 hrs of Economy Class flying are done for me.
RGN-KUL-BKK-AMM-JFK-YYZ.
I doubt I would use the return considering it is pretty hard on the body, probably stick to Business/First Class for the future :D
Okay called they refused to allocate any bulk head seats in advance and only said they could do it at airport but put notes in booking. Might call back again to verify. The CS agent did say that they could even give free exit rows on some flights depending on air planes. That sounded way to good to be true.

Kind of makes me wonder what exactly the OW benefit of "Access to preferred or pre-reserved seating*" means exactly.

Not a problem at all even traveled with my unwed GF... No Turn around is possible though as you must go to another country... Transit will be a PITA if you are not transiting on SV as there is a small SV desk when you get off the bus.. I had to wait a few hours for a NAS rep to bring my BPs, and escort to security...

I'm considering booking a RGN-KUL-JED ticket with a separate ticket out of JED on LH 5 hours later to FRA, would this be doable in Jeddah? and how is the RUH-JED sector treated as? international or domestic since the flight itself stops in RUH and continues to JED.

I'm considering booking a RGN-KUL-JED ticket with a separate ticket out of JED on LH 5 hours later to FRA, would this be doable in Jeddah? and how is the RUH-JED sector treated as? international or domestic since the flight itself stops in RUH and continues to JED.

I went to the embassy in BKK and I was told that a maximum of one domestic sector is allowed if flying with any airline other than SV. If flying with SV two domestic legs are allowed.
If you're in JED for less than 18 hours TWOV is possible but I would always go to an KSA embassy before travelling and confirm all the information since it seems to change quickly.
Immediate turnaround is not possible.

Anyone else done this recently?

Just flew this last night. Exhausting. So unbelievably long...13 hours after my departure from rgn I had only made it as far as BKK (RGN-KUL-BKK). I had to issue every boarding pass individually, at KUL I couldn't issue the pass to AMM until 3 hours before the flight, and the staff would not issue me anything to let me into the lounge. Once I got into it, though, I was happy. At boarding, they told me it would be hours before the repair was made and to go back to the lounge. 20 minutes later someone came running to tell me I was the last not to have boarded, and made me run to the gate. Then we sat with the doors open for two hours.

It was nice to get all those miles, and to pay very little for them, but by the time I reached NY I was beat. But yea, still no problems with this ticket. All's well that ends well. :)

I'm wondering whether anybody on the Y ticket has made a change to their tickets so far? I recently broke my ankle while hiking in AK and won't be able to make it to RGN before I fully recover. So need to change the trip til a later date. Haven't flown any segment yet, don't know whether RJ will reprice or not...

Just flew this last night. Exhausting. So unbelievably long...13 hours after my departure from rgn I had only made it as far as BKK (RGN-KUL-BKK). I had to issue every boarding pass individually, at KUL I couldn't issue the pass to AMM until 3 hours before the flight, and the staff would not issue me anything to let me into the lounge. Once I got into it, though, I was happy. At boarding, they told me it would be hours before the repair was made and to go back to the lounge. 20 minutes later someone came running to tell me I was the last not to have boarded, and made me run to the gate. Then we sat with the doors open for two hours.

It was nice to get all those miles, and to pay very little for them, but by the time I reached NY I was beat. But yea, still no problems with this ticket. All's well that ends well. :)
Sounds like hell. When do you start the return leg? Sounds like i will die doing two return legs back to back. Any other advice you can give? Any more seat info?

I'm not flying a return. Just got the one-way. I will give you the advice to hang onto those boarding passes. RJ didn't post the AMM-JFK leg to my AA account, just like they didnt post an earlier leg to a flight I flew earlier in the summer. Now I've got to dig up the pass and apparently fax it in.

As for seats: flights are pretty much full, and there are going to be kids everywhere, no matter where you sit. Kids everywhere. The front is probably worst, though.

I'm not flying a return. Just got the one-way. I will give you the advice to hang onto those boarding passes. RJ didn't post the AMM-JFK leg to my AA account, just like they didnt post an earlier leg to a flight I flew earlier in the summer. Now I've got to dig up the pass and apparently fax it in.

As for seats: flights are pretty much full, and there are going to be kids everywhere, no matter where you sit. Kids everywhere. The front is probably worst, though.
Wow good to know. Interesting no one has been op upped yet. To think if i`d pulled the trigger on round 2 of this mistake fare i could have taken C instead of Y on the same route basically.

Anyway not sure how I`ll survive but time will tell!

Used my first ticket( one way) last month.RGN-BKK-AMM-JFK. Exhausting. Long layovers, bored, noisy cabin. It took me (38 hours ) including connection from SIN to reach JFK, whereas it just took me 18 hours to get back to SIN on a flat bed, champagne and a cozy all C cabin :) .I might cancel my second (roundtrip) ticket departing on December.

I got a flight change notice today on my RJ flights - after a momentary panic, I realized that the times were only changed by an hour. On the RJ website, you can see a notice that the Jordanian government decided (yesterday) to eliminate the local equivalent of daylight savings time for this winter. So, the arrival and departure times in Amman have changed by an hour, but the departure/arrival times at other locations on the ticket have been preserved.

I got a flight change notice today on my RJ flights - after a momentary panic, I realized that the times were only changed by an hour. On the RJ website, you can see a notice that the Jordanian government decided (yesterday) to eliminate the local equivalent of daylight savings time for this winter. So, the arrival and departure times in Amman have changed by an hour, but the departure/arrival times at other locations on the ticket have been preserved.

also saw the change on DL's website but it confuses me. my deparure time changed (add one hour) but my arrival time remains the same thus effectively adding an hour to my layover.

Just flew RGN-BKK-AMM-JFK with TG from RGN and RJ from BKK. The flights were fine, bit of a long layover in Amman but hung out in the lounge. The catering in Y is not bad, 3 choices and frequent. Flights 75% full. The points and miles posted to AA 4 days later.