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Houston Traveler
Jun 20, 12, 2:13 pm
Can anyone tell me if there is an airside connection between the AA terminal and the CX terminal in ORD? I believe I read there is one for BA flights but curious about CX.

Thanks

Houston Traveler


3Cforme
Jun 20, 12, 2:36 pm
There is not. CX arrivals are T-5, AA departures T-3. There's an inter-terminal train outside security.

Short hair Francis
Jun 20, 12, 5:14 pm
The BA flights in T5 have a inside-security bus leaving from G and I think K?
But thats' not for the CX flight only for BA ones


ernestnywang
Jun 21, 12, 4:28 am
I have written to CX several times about this (and LAX) but so far no improvement.

mach92
Jun 22, 12, 10:38 am
None....... you must exit T-3 take the train to T-5 and re-clear security.

Can anyone tell me if there is an airside connection between the AA terminal and the CX terminal in ORD? I believe I read there is one for BA flights but curious about CX.

Thanks

Houston Traveler

goingbananas
Jun 23, 12, 3:19 pm
I really wish AA and CX could work out an agreement to tow the bird over from the INTL terminal (after it arrives) to the AA gates for Departure and convenience of the people making connections there at ORD going onto HKG....

Cathay Boy
Jun 23, 12, 8:04 pm
The BA flights in T5 have a inside-security bus leaving from G and I think K?
But thats' not for the CX flight only for BA ones

Any reason CX couldn't do this? Cheapness? Freaking pain going through T-3 security (or any security at ORD for that matter).

jetsetter1k
Jun 23, 12, 8:36 pm
JFK too !! It makes so much more sense for CX to be in the AA Terminal.

ernestnywang
Jun 24, 12, 2:06 am
Any reason CX couldn't do this? Cheapness? Freaking pain going through T-3 security (or any security at ORD for that matter).

I believe it is due to cost-saving. Besides BA who operates buses in ORD between T3 and T5, QF also operates buses in LAX between TBIT and T4.

ernestnywang
Jun 24, 12, 2:09 am
JFK too !! It makes so much more sense for CX to be in the AA Terminal.

I remember hearing that construction is underway to merge T7 and T8 (with the old T9) so that AA, AB, AY, LA as well as BA, CX, IB, QF will all be in the "same" terminal.

Cathay Boy
Jun 24, 12, 2:12 am
I remember hearing that construction is underway to merge T7 and T8 (with the old T9) so that AA, AB, AY, LA as well as BA, CX, IB, QF will all be in the "same" terminal.

Forget it, Port Authority of New York is always whining to the City Government about not having any money. There won't be any major projects anytime soon.

jetsetter1k
Jun 24, 12, 2:44 am
I believe it is due to cost-saving. Besides BA who operates buses in ORD between T3 and T5, QF also operates buses in LAX between TBIT and T4.

CX should just operate from the AA terminal in ORD like JAL does. Forget about the bus.

CrazyJ82
Jun 24, 12, 6:48 am
While it is inconvenient, let's not overstate it. At the time of day CX departs I haven't found the security line to be too long. And while we've all agreed T5 isn't the best in terms of amenities, if CX ever did move over to T3 we'd all start complaining about how dumpy it is, how you have to fight through all the AA kettles at security, how T5 was so much simpler to use... I'm no CX apologist, but I'd rather have them spending money on other things than on an airside bus service at ORD.

Cathay Boy
Jun 24, 12, 9:21 am
While it is inconvenient, let's not overstate it. At the time of day CX departs I haven't found the security line to be too long. And while we've all agreed T5 isn't the best in terms of amenities, if CX ever did move over to T3 we'd all start complaining about how dumpy it is, how you have to fight through all the AA kettles at security, how T5 was so much simpler to use... I'm no CX apologist, but I'd rather have them spending money on other things than on an airside bus service at ORD.

Why don't we not understate it? T5 is a dump, pure and simple. There are no restaurants or anything for that matter. It's just a dump that they call "International Terminal". T3 on the other hand have shops, restaurants, and Admiral's Club. If CX does wise up and can convince the powers to be that they belong with T3 and not the ridiculous T5 then it's hallelujah for everyone.

ernestnywang
Jun 24, 12, 12:24 pm
Why don't we not understate it? T5 is a dump, pure and simple. There are no restaurants or anything for that matter. It's just a dump that they call "International Terminal". T3 on the other hand have shops, restaurants, and Admiral's Club. If CX does wise up and can convince the powers to be that they belong with T3 and not the ridiculous T5 then it's hallelujah for everyone.

I have not taken CX807 (ORD-HKG) yet (though have done CX806, HKG-ORD). How does the Admiral's Club compare to the LX lounge and the SK lounge? I have been to both ACs in ORD and would not want CX to use them, unless the LX lounge and / or the SK lounge is even worse.

goingbananas
Jun 24, 12, 2:14 pm
I have not taken CX807 (ORD-HKG) yet (though have done CX806, HKG-ORD). How does the Admiral's Club compare to the LX lounge and the SK lounge? I have been to both ACs in ORD and would not want CX to use them, unless the LX lounge and / or the SK lounge is even worse.

I would put parts of the T5 CX lounge options ahead of the Admiral's club, but if you have FL access in ORD, it is IMO better than the any of the T5 options.

QRC3288
Apr 29, 13, 8:55 am
Pulling up this thread with a question:

I haven't yet connected CX to a domestic AA flight at ORD. Considering doing it in a few weeks. Specifically, CX806 lands at 1:45pm, and I'm considering a 3:30pm AA domestic departure. I won't have checked bags, and have Global Entry. Considering this, do you think it will be an issue to make my ex-ORD domestic AA connection?

Thanks in advance.

Cathay Boy
Apr 29, 13, 9:14 am
Pulling up this thread with a question:

I haven't yet connected CX to a domestic AA flight at ORD. Considering doing it in a few weeks. Specifically, CX806 lands at 1:45pm, and I'm considering a 3:30pm AA domestic departure. I won't have checked bags, and have Global Entry. Considering this, do you think it will be an issue to make my ex-ORD domestic AA connection?

Thanks in advance.

I've just done this and smooth sailing for me. The only few barriers that might slow you down are:

1) CX flight late coming in (rarely, of the numerous time I flew this route CX was only late once for 30 minutes.)

2) Your luggage might now come out as speedy as you would like (I always have F-tag but last time my luggage didn't come out till the very end, was nervous for a sec. as I am rushing for time)

3) The AA terminal 3, security line, they are notoriously bad. Avoid the security checkpoint in the middle of the terminal, there is always a good 15-20 min. wait. Go to the security check-point towards the end of the terminal, always much faster there.

but overall, if CX arrives on-line, bags come out in timely matter, T-3 security line within reason (10-15 min.) you are fine.

If you are OW-EM, don't forget there is AA Flagship Lounge at T-3, but depending which gate you are it may be far from your gate, so check first.

QRC3288
Apr 29, 13, 9:17 am
I've just done this and smooth sailing for me. The only few barriers that might slow you down are:

1) CX flight late coming in (rarely, of the numerous time I flew this route CX was only late once for 30 minutes.)

2) Your luggage might now come out as speedy as you would like (I always have F-tag but last time my luggage didn't come out till the very end, was nervous for a sec. as I am rushing for time)

3) The AA terminal 3, security line, they are notoriously bad. Avoid the security checkpoint in the middle of the terminal, there is always a good 15-20 min. wait. Go to the security check-point towards the end of the terminal, always much faster there.

but overall, if CX arrives on-line, bags come out in timely matter, T-3 security line within reason (10-15 min.) you are fine.

If you are OW-EM, don't forget there is AA Flagship Lounge at T-3, but depending which gate you are it may be far from your gate, so check first.

excellent. thanks for the advice, i am going to book my tickets now.

garykung
Apr 29, 13, 7:38 pm
I haven't yet connected CX to a domestic AA flight at ORD. Considering doing it in a few weeks. Specifically, CX806 lands at 1:45pm, and I'm considering a 3:30pm AA domestic departure. I won't have checked bags, and have Global Entry. Considering this, do you think it will be an issue to make my ex-ORD domestic AA connection?

Make sure that AA (not CX) has your PASS ID on file.

TSA is working on allowing pax on domestic leg of international reservations to use PreCheck. By the time you arrive at ORD, it can be done already, which can save you even more time (TSA PreCheck average time: 1 minute :D)

Dr. HFH
Apr 29, 13, 8:09 pm
TSA is working on allowing pax on domestic leg of international reservations to use PreCheck.

Do you have any details on that? All posts here have said only that PreCheck is rarely available on domestic legs of arriving international itins. OTOH, I'm 100% with PreCheck on the domestic legs of departing international itins.

QRC3288
Apr 29, 13, 8:09 pm
Make sure that AA (not CX) has your PASS ID on file.

TSA is working on allowing pax on domestic leg of international reservations to use PreCheck. By the time you arrive at ORD, it can be done already, which can save you even more time (TSA PreCheck average time: 1 minute :D)

thanks, that's exactly what I did - included it to AA on booking.

garykung
Apr 30, 13, 12:57 am
Do you have any details on that? All posts here have said only that PreCheck is rarely available on domestic legs of arriving international itins. OTOH, I'm 100% with PreCheck on the domestic legs of departing international itins.

PreCheck is available to outgoing domestic legs of international reservation.

Based on the thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-issues/1421807-tsa-pre-not-international.html

TSA is currently "working" on that.

Cathay Boy
Apr 30, 13, 5:05 am
Make sure that AA (not CX) has your PASS ID on file.

TSA is working on allowing pax on domestic leg of international reservations to use PreCheck. By the time you arrive at ORD, it can be done already, which can save you even more time (TSA PreCheck average time: 1 minute :D)

This is not always the case (because I also have TSA Pre privilege), technically, it's not allowed for pax on international flights to have TSA Pre. However, I have been told by TSA agents that *sometimes* if you ask for a new boarding pass from AA, it works. I tried it last time, didn't work....

Cathay Boy
Apr 30, 13, 5:06 am
Do you have any details on that? All posts here have said only that PreCheck is rarely available on domestic legs of arriving international itins. OTOH, I'm 100% with PreCheck on the domestic legs of departing international itins.

As someone that literally just tried it a couple of days ago, it does NOT work. TSA agent told me it *sometimes* work if you ask AA to print you a new boarding pass, which I did, still nada.

garykung
Apr 30, 13, 5:32 am
This is not always the case (because I also have TSA Pre privilege), technically, it's not allowed for pax on international flights to have TSA Pre. However, I have been told by TSA agents that *sometimes* if you ask for a new boarding pass from AA, it works. I tried it last time, didn't work....

I never said it works now.

I am simply saying that given OP's travel plan is unknown and TSA is currently studying the issue, it may be available at that time, which OP should provide PASS ID just in case.

My recent experience is:

1. D>I LLL

2. I>D No PreCheck (I am saying TSA is working on this)

garykung
May 8, 13, 8:28 pm
Do you have any details on that? All posts here have said only that PreCheck is rarely available on domestic legs of arriving international itins. OTOH, I'm 100% with PreCheck on the domestic legs of departing international itins.

In case you wonder again:

TSA Pre✓™ Expands Expedited Screening Benefits for International Travel (http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2013/05/06/tsa-pre%E2%9C%93%E2%84%A2-expands-expedited-screening-benefits-international-travel)

Cathay Boy
May 8, 13, 8:30 pm
In case you wonder again:

TSA Pre✓™ Expands Expedited Screening Benefits for International Travel (http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2013/05/06/tsa-pre%E2%9C%93%E2%84%A2-expands-expedited-screening-benefits-international-travel)

Excellent news. No more fear of missing connection in ORD!

cxfan1960
May 8, 13, 8:33 pm
Excellent news. No more fear of missing connection in ORD!

CX is not a participating airline, at least not yet.

Cathay Boy
May 11, 13, 11:12 pm
CX is not a participating airline, at least not yet.

I'm assuming since I'm connecting to AA I would just request an AA boarding pass and it will work? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. HFH
May 12, 13, 3:10 am
PreCheck is available to outgoing domestic legs of international reservation.

Do you have any details on that? All posts here have said only that PreCheck is rarely available on domestic legs of arriving international itins. OTOH, I'm 100% with PreCheck on the domestic legs of departing international itins.

As someone that literally just tried it a couple of days ago, it does NOT work. TSA agent told me it *sometimes* work if you ask AA to print you a new boarding pass, which I did, still nada.

I never said it works now.

In case you wonder again....

I'm assuming since I'm connecting to AA I would just request an AA boarding pass and it will work? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

We've been having this discussion in the wrong thread. PreCheck for arriving pax on international itineraries now works!! I got it!!! (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-aadvantage/1236986-tsa-pre-check-precheck-known-traveler-program-aa-elite-ffs-consolidated-104.html#post20710064)

aa380
May 17, 13, 2:35 am
The only decent lounge in T5 at ord is the BA one. The others like sas, swiss etc are cramped, crappy food, old furniture. The admirals club in T3 far out wins when it comes to lounges at T5.



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