bmi diamond club - (No) downgrades of DC status levels from June 14th??? Nope, downgrades as normal.

I don't think this was included in any e-mail communications and I haven't seen anyone mention it on this board, but I've just spotted this on the web site:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

"Please note, we are implementing a “status freeze”, which means that until further notice no Diamond Club members will be downgraded from their tier level as at 14 June 2012."

I'm vaguely irritated by that. Banked 38000 status miles for keeping my Gold status. My renewal date is 14 June. Gah. Oh well.

Yet another strategy to make crediting to Diamond Club a fruitless exercise.

Sitting on 42K waiting for lifetime gold in August!

(Mods - can you change the thread title to make this thread subject clearer)

"All DC status levels (blue, silver, gold) frozen from June 14th"

Thanks...

Yet another strategy to make crediting to Diamond Club a fruitless exercise.

Why?

The freeze is to protect anyone from a downgrade in status. If you are after Gold status and are currently short, you can still credit on a bmi flight and to be upgraded to Gold.

Not fruitless for those trying to hit a higher tier of status at the moment.

The title of this needs updating as status levels are not completely frozen and it is actually no downgrade in status level.

Oops, yes, quite right.

LOL, so we are all life time gold, can I have a new card? I know it's unlikely but it mean we have life time access to first lounge at LHR and Gatwick .... joke!

I don't think this was included in any e-mail communications and I haven't seen anyone mention it on this board, but I've just spotted this on the web site:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

"Please note, we are implementing a “status freeze”, which means that until further notice no Diamond Club members will be downgraded from their tier level as at 14 June 2012."

Does this mean anyone with Silver now has until the end of the DC programme to get enough status miles to get to Gold, and then match to BAEC?

I once had my 12 month period for earning points to get from Sliver to Gold extended to 15 months. If they have set everyone's end date out by (say) 12 months that'd have a similar effect.

Sitting on 42K waiting for lifetime gold in August!

Congratulations - you just made lifetime gold!

As did all current bmi golds, myself included!

This ending of status downgrades means that anyone who is now Gold in Diamond Club will remain Gold forever*.

(You do realise that lifetime Gold won't get you anything more than "ordinary" Golds when you status match to BAEC? And that Diamond Club will have ceased to exist by this time next year?)

*forever - for all eternity, or until Diamond Club is wound up, whichever happens first.

Does this mean anyone with Silver now has until the end of the DC programme to get enough status miles to get to Gold, and then match to BAEC?


Yes, indeedy!

But realistically, you probably only have a few months.

Just looking at the thread title - No downgrades of DC status levels (blue, silver, gold) from June 14th...

How does one get downgraded from Blue??? :D

You became Blue Minus. During the good old days, Blue Minus passengers had to by a sandwich, Kit-Kat and drink (excluding Ribena) for the cabin crew in exchange for being allowed on board ;)

Blue Minus - for ever!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suMaFXb7uPc)

So, instead of "Buy on Board" service, it was a "Buy In Order To Be Allowed On Board" service.

Neat!

I don't think this was included in any e-mail communications and I haven't seen anyone mention it on this board, but I've just spotted this on the web site:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

"Please note, we are implementing a “status freeze”, which means that until further notice no Diamond Club members will be downgraded from their tier level as at 14 June 2012."

That's nothing to sneeze at. In theory, this should allow me to hold off my status match until November even though I'd normally lose Silver status in October, but yesterday's changes shook my confidence in this whole status match thing. Maybe BA will pull the match overnight because they've had enough conversions? Who knows?

For quite a while the running joke on these boards was that lifetime gold was for the lifetime of BD, rather than the member. I don't think any of us foresaw quite this situation. M&M HON Circle, perhaps, but never BAEC Gold.

Seriosuly though, with the opportunities for crediting flying to Diamond Club diminishing by the day, it's hardly any wonder they are freezing everyone's status.

In theory this is a very good deal for anyone who has an earlier BD year than BA year. They can now delay matching until their BA year ticks over, and thus get 23 months of status rather than 12 and a bit.

Eg BMI Gold exp July and won't renew, BA Silver exp Aug. A match just before the BMI expiry gets 13 months BA Gold, but they can now do it in Sep and get 23 months.

At a guess, I have a feeling that the only agreement really stopping BA from shutting down DC almost immediately is the MBNA cards.

...this should allow me to hold off my status match until November even though I'd normally lose Silver status in OctoberOr, as BA could find themselves being asked to match DC members who would have lost the status they are asking BA to match had DC not frozen, yes I am wondering does this mean things will accelerate even sooner to the close of DC. And possible pull of the offer by BA. Am I being too pessimistic?

Just a thought about DC future. IIRC, bmi regional will retain the bmi name and website. At the end of the summer timetable, is it possible that DC, in some form, would revert to the new owners of bmi regional and that would be the cut off date for all transfers to BAEC?

IIRC, Regional will re-brand in the autumn.

It would be nice to see a BD Regional/FlyBE merger.

...and then watch IAG buy it LOL.

Imagine what it must be like for the ex-BMed crew changing their wardrobes back and forth!

Re lifetime BD Gold, I was a bit surprised that they didn't make some token gesture to acknowledge them. A couple of upgrades, or a 2 year status match. After all it's not as if they all got lifetime gold and stopped flying. Probably many remain high value customers.

It would be nice to see a BD Regional/FlyBE merger.

...and then watch IAG buy it LOL.

Imagine what it must be like for the ex-BMed crew changing their wardrobes back and forth!

Re lifetime BD Gold, I was a bit surprised that they didn't make some token gesture to acknowledge them. A couple of upgrades, or a 2 year status match. After all it's not as if they all got lifetime gold and stopped flying. Probably many remain high value customers.

If they match on the right day, they do get a 2 year match ( well, 23 months), as does everyone else. Plus a year as Silver, so 3 years of lounge access etc.

LOL, so we are all life time gold, can I have a new card? I know it's unlikely but it mean we have life time access to first lounge at LHR and Gatwick .... joke!

Dear Clem

On behalf of Fly LHR baby and FLABY Club, I am writing to you to offer you lifetime FLABY Gold status. Here are just some of the many privileges you will enjoy for ever:


A dedicated email address for FLABY Gold Members
Be the first to hear if we ever introduce any flights you can actually fly on
Free upgrades on selected services[+]
Complimentary lounge access at over 1000 virtual destinations worldwide
25% bonus points on fares in all ticket classes that never go on sale
Plus many exclusive partner offers that are continuously being withdrawn

[+] Restricted to Concorde and Space Shuttle operated flights only

We do hope you enjoy your FLABY Gold Lifetime Membership and look forward to continue welcoming you until the next time we change our rules.

Hugs and kisses

Flaby Baby
CEO Fly LHR Baby Club

I don't think this was included in any e-mail communications and I haven't seen anyone mention it on this board, but I've just spotted this on the web site:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

"Please note, we are implementing a “status freeze”, which means that until further notice no Diamond Club members will be downgraded from their tier level as at 14 June 2012."

Unless I've missed something very obvious after reading it 3 times, I see no mention of this on the linked page. Have they removed it?

Odd. It's gone!

Indeed it has. It was previously right at the top of the page.

Unless I've missed something very obvious after reading it 3 times, I see no mention of this on the linked page. Have they removed it?

Now removed from the active page, but still there in the page that Google cached a little while ago: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

Update 17/6@10am: But now disappeared from there as well.

Indeed it has. It was previously right at the top of the page.Perhaps they've taken it back to adjust it... sorry I mean enhance it... to put an end date to any upward movements in tier class, as well? :p

I just clicked on it for the first time and I see it?

I just clicked on it for the first time and I see it?

So it is. So there, gone and back again in a period of days.

So it is. So there, gone and back again in a period of days.

I still can't see it, has it gone for a second time?!

[QUOTE=Action Man;18766634]It would be nice to see a BD Regional/FlyBE merger.

...and then watch IAG buy it LOL.

QUOTE]


What you mean the rest of Flymaybe ? the bit that they dont already own ?

but seriously, as much as i would love to see it, it aint never going to happen, BA and regional to regional services ? Yeah Right :mad:


cs

but seriously, as much as i would love to see it, it aint never going to happenI agree. Given that their strategy over the last 10 years or so has pretty consistently been to move away from this, it would be very surprising to see them do a U-turn on this.

I don't think this was included in any e-mail communications and I haven't seen anyone mention it on this board, but I've just spotted this on the web site:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/loyalty-programmes/diamond-club/membership-benefits/membership-benefits.aspx

"Please note, we are implementing a “status freeze”, which means that until further notice no Diamond Club members will be downgraded from their tier level as at 14 June 2012."

But what the betting there will be no New DC cards with the 2013 Date on them dispatched. So expect Hassles at many *A Lounges.

PS I'll give everybody Gold Status when I dont have an Airline.

But what the betting there will be no New DC cards with the 2013 Date on them dispatched. So expect Hassles at many *A Lounges.

They wouldn't grant you access to *A lounges anymore..

My mum has a "problem" with her DC Account (currently Silver). She sent a boarding pass for a flight taken before the credit closure of Star Alliance flights (TG flight in April) which has been credited in the wrong class. This has been corrected now, but the status stays the same with much more than the needed 38k for Gold. Usually this will has been updated over night, but it has not happened yet.

Is the status freeze also valid for upgrades? Is there an email address where she can send the request to correct the status?

Thanks in advance
Chris

Is the status freeze also valid for upgrades? Is there an email address where she can send the request to correct the status?


No. Upgrades in status should still happen.

All the relevant contact details for Diamond Club (and you may prefer to call for this query) can be found at www.flybmi.com - under "About Us"/"Contact Us". Use the Diamond Club/Loyalty Programme contacts, not the other general sales/reservations etc. contacts.

I still can't see it, has it gone for a second time?!

Yes, it has! Completely bizarre.

No. Upgrades in status should still happen.

All the relevant contact details for Diamond Club (and you may prefer to call for this query) can be found at www.flybmi.com - under "About Us"/"Contact Us". Use the Diamond Club/Loyalty Programme contacts, not the other general sales/reservations etc. contacts.

Thanks. Will wait one or two more days, then I will contact DC.

Update: Just checked again and she got Gold now. :)

Update: Just checked again and she got Gold now. :)

Great!

Now find out if she wants to convert that to BAEC Gold.

Great!

Now find out if she wants to convert that to BAEC Gold.

I am more than sure she will. :)

Bit of a problem here. For a relative I was reassured about the status freeze for the status match given their status expired at the end of June. So I said you don't need to rush. Oh-oh, it seems that this was all an error and was withdrawn because 'it's still possible to earn status miles on bmi Regional'.

Now with all the great contacts going not sure how I can pull this off. If they had applied for the status match before the end of they would have got BA Gold and now its just Silver.

As a bmi vet I should have known...

Bit of a problem here. For a relative I was reassured about the status freeze for the status match given their status expired at the end of June. So I said you don't need to rush. Oh-oh, it seems that this was all an error and was withdrawn because 'it's still possible to earn status miles on bmi Regional'.

Now with all the great contacts going not sure how I can pull this off. If they had applied for the status match before the end of they would have got BA Gold and now its just Silver.

As a bmi vet I should have known...

If you're really lucky you might be able to get Joanna to work her magic as she's still officially employed by bmi for a few more days. But in reality she may be way too busy and also many companies restrict access to systems for leavers.

Nicci (BA Executive Club) is another good contact. Show her this thread (she may not be aware that bmi were going to do a status freeze) and I suspect that a gold match will then still be possible.

Today in my BMI-Account:

Tier downgraded from Silver to Blue Card.

My Status is now Blue!

Today in my BMI-Account:

Tier downgraded from Silver to Blue Card.

My Status is now Blue!

me too

Mine still shows the status just fine, but then I wouldn't expect any downgrades either.

My status points were reset to zero at the beginning of July. however, I had acquired enough points to renew so I am still gold. In other words, it was business as usual in terms of tier renewal as far as my account is concerned.

I'm exactly the same as Nick B. But no new card yet (not that it has any value except for LHR lounge access on BA and I'm not flying anywhere with them for a while).

I'm exactly the same as Nick B. But no new card yet (not that it has any value except for LHR lounge access on BA and I'm not flying anywhere with them for a while).Neither have I. Still have my old Gold card with the *A logo expiring in August, a new-ish Gold card sans *A logo expiring in July but none reflecting the renewal. not overly fussed about it since I can always use my BA Gold card anyway.

Neither have I. Still have my old Gold card with the *A logo expiring in August, a new-ish Gold card sans *A logo expiring in July but none reflecting the renewal. not overly fussed about it since I can always use my BA Gold card anyway.

My year-end was mid-May and still no card - but apart from status matching to other programmes a BD-G card doesn't have much value to those of us already matched to BAEC

the one thing I would like my card for (Gold till end May 2013 but no card sent) is the Fast Track at Edinburgh Airport. Came through this morning and they have covered up the "when flying on a bmi flight" so Diamond Club Gold can use the fast track on a BA ticket (which I did with no issue)

Ba Gold doesn't get the fast track!

My year-end was mid-May and still no card - but apart from status matching to other programmes a BD-G card doesn't have much value to those of us already matched to BAEC

Mine renewed a week or so earlier, and I did get a new *A pack for the year (plus a non-*A one :rolleyes: that lasted a week).

Was I the last to get one :p? Is 06/13 the latest date we'll ever see on a DC *A card? Shall I eBay it :D?

I have heard back from Joanna who says this is a no-go! Quite disappointed really as I could have applied for him before the deadline to get a Gold match. I guess this is a lesson in getting your info from FT. They say it was only on the website for a few hours, but I think it was longer than that judging by the posts here.

Quite surprised DC weren't willing to extend it by two weeks in order to get the match. (Just to be clear of course, the expiry was the actual, not the old Star cards).

Next stop Nicci!

OK just to be absolutely clear about this, is it the case that the official word from DC is that status levels are NOT frozen at all?

This could be quite a big deal for people hoping to delay a status match into BAEC to maximise their time as BA Gold - if the delay takes you past your DC renewal date (NOT your card expiry date) then you need to make sure you've requalified as BD Gold for the new year otherwise you're getting downgraded.

Sorry if this is obvious but it seems worth highlighting as it's not the assumption many people will have been working under.

To be absolutely clear. Status is NOT frozen. I've had this confirmed by Jo. Reason: possibility to earn status miles on Regional.

I'm sure Jo's hands are tied with this, but looking through the thread more closely and even my own comment it was definitely there TWICE and not just for a few hours as DC have claimed. I say "hands tied" because normally DC would hold their hands up and say "yes, it was an error but considering its only two weeks since the expiration we can make an exception".

I have been (or to be more honest, a relative-mine is Nov) stung, based on my bad advice based on FT.

I will write to Nicci and see what she says, perhaps others want to do the same for those in the same boat.

I'm sure Jo's hands are tied with this, but looking through the thread more closely and even my own comment it was definitely there TWICE and not just for a few hours as DC have claimed.

Yes, it definitely came/went/came/went.

I think they should honour the offer they (mistakenly) made. By their own logic only a few people (who saw it in those hours) would benefit from it. There will be some who read about it on here and try it on, but even then...

Try Tweeting your annoyance at their on/off stance. Seems to have worked wonders for others in the past.

the one thing I would like my card for (Gold till end May 2013 but no card sent) is the Fast Track at Edinburgh Airport. Came through this morning and they have covered up the "when flying on a bmi flight" so Diamond Club Gold can use the fast track on a BA ticket (which I did with no issue)

Ba Gold doesn't get the fast track!

I imagine it might be worthwhile getting a status match to Aer Lingus Elite, for three years of lounge access in the event you ever happen to fly them.

the one thing I would like my card for (Gold till end May 2013 but no card sent) is the Fast Track at Edinburgh Airport. Came through this morning and they have covered up the "when flying on a bmi flight" so Diamond Club Gold can use the fast track on a BA ticket (which I did with no issue)

Ba Gold doesn't get the fast track!

Does that cover-up mean that DC gold gets fast track flying any airline or is it just BA?