Link (http://www.ritzcarltonclub.com/landing/insider/2012%2D06/)
0 introductory fee
70k points after first purchase
Earn Exceptional Rewards
• Earn 5 Ritz-Carlton Rewards points per $1 spent at The Ritz-Carlton hotels. *
• Earn 2 Ritz-Carlton Rewards points per $1 spent on airline tickets purchased directly with the airline, and at car rental
agencies and restaurants. *
• Earn 1 Ritz-Carlton Rewards point per $1 spent on all other card purchases. *
Enjoy Special Hotel Privileges
• Upgrade to The Ritz-Carlton Club® Level three times annually on stays of up to seven nights, subject to availability
at time of reservation. Advanced reservations and e-certificate are required. *
• Automatic Gold Elite status* in The Ritz-Carlton Rewards program your first year.
• Extra Hotel Experience with each two-night stay or longer at a Ritz-Carlton hotel. Celebrate with a $100 Hotel Credit to
be used toward your choice of dining, spa or other hotel recreational activities when reserving this offer. *
Experience Travel Benefits and Services
• Complimentary airport lounge access*
• $200 annual credit for airline incidentals*
• Premier Concierge Service and more*
Credit to Fatwallet.
pcharles
Jun 13, 12, 10:09 am
Better than the 50K they were offering. ^
travelmi
Jun 13, 12, 10:16 am
When I click the link provided, It states:
"For a limited time, experience the card with our compliments for your first year as a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner. "
Do you have to be a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner for the offer to apply? Anyone has experience as non-Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner?
Thanks!
mikeef
Jun 13, 12, 10:26 am
Also, what kind of airport lounge access do you get? Is it one of those Priority Passes where you have to pay for more than one person?
Mike
cyin
Jun 13, 12, 10:28 am
When I click the link provided, It states:
"For a limited time, experience the card with our compliments for your first year as a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner. "
Do you have to be a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner for the offer to apply? Anyone has experience as non-Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner?
Thanks!
Was thinking about this card too, until I saw this post. I dug further into the T&C's and noticed: "Previous and existing Ritz-Carlton or Marriott Rewards® Credit Card cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer"
Looks like if you already have a Marriott Credit Card, you won't get the bonus on this one. Bummer.
Long Islander
Jun 13, 12, 10:33 am
I'm not surprised that they had to sweeten the original deal. When the card first came out, I thought about it but the high annual fee and the limited benefits kept me away. At least with 70k points and 1st year fee waived, I might consider it.
travelmi
Jun 13, 12, 10:34 am
Also, what kind of airport lounge access do you get? Is it one of those Priority Passes where you have to pay for more than one person?
Mike
Here is the list of the club. https://www.loungeclub.com/en/
When I called them, they acturally said that you do not have to pay for guests. I found that it is hard to believe that there is unlimited guests, but one or two should be fine. I never brought guests in though. So double check on this
cfuss
Jun 13, 12, 11:05 am
Was thinking about this card too, until I saw this post. I dug further into the T&C's and noticed: "Previous and existing Ritz-Carlton or Marriott Rewards® Credit Card cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer"
Looks like if you already have a Marriott Credit Card, you won't get the bonus on this one. Bummer.
I was thinking about getting the 70k marriott card.. Yall think i can get both on the same day?
5DMarkIIguy
Jun 13, 12, 12:41 pm
Was thinking about this card too, until I saw this post. I dug further into the T&C's and noticed: "Previous and existing Ritz-Carlton or Marriott Rewards® Credit Card cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer"
Looks like if you already have a Marriott Credit Card, you won't get the bonus on this one. Bummer.
Not necessary. From the original RC thread, people who have the Marriott card got the bonus, too. Same T&C.
5DMarkIIguy
Jun 13, 12, 12:42 pm
I'm not surprised that they had to sweeten the original deal. When the card first came out, I thought about it but the high annual fee and the limited benefits kept me away. At least with 70k points and 1st year fee waived, I might consider it.
And the $200 airline credit to use on random things, including award ticket fee or whatever people are getting in the RC thread.
dabaobao
Jun 13, 12, 8:36 pm
boo, for not valid for marriot credit card
MrHalliday
Jun 13, 12, 8:44 pm
This looked interesting at first, but seeing that it is a Chase card,
I think I will wait and hopefully find another 50K+ UR someday.
I noticed the application now asks if you have EVER been denied by Chase;
I think it used to ask if within the last 3 months.
Yet I think some have reported answering
that question Yes, and they were approved.
ltabi
Jun 13, 12, 8:48 pm
I should have waited for this offer...I got the Marriott card. The airport lounge benefit would have been awesome for me
mnscout
Jun 14, 12, 12:59 am
God, Chase again! Certainly would grab it otherwise without even thinking twice! Great find, OP.
Thunderroad
Jun 14, 12, 1:19 am
When I click the link provided, It states:
"For a limited time, experience the card with our compliments for your first year as a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner. "
Do you have to be a Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner for the offer to apply? Anyone has experience as non-Ritz-Carlton Residences® Owner?
Thanks!
I'm curious about this also. The link page seems to pretty indicate that the offer is just for owners of R-C Residences, though the application doesn't ask for any R-C-specific info beyond R-C Rewards #.
opus2002
Jun 14, 12, 7:26 am
I would have grab this if it were not for Chase issued. I am saving my Chase inquires for even better deals than this.
mikeef
Jun 14, 12, 9:35 am
God, Chase again! Certainly would grab it otherwise without even thinking twice! Great find, OP.
+1 to this entire post.
Mike
maxel
Jun 14, 12, 9:37 am
A poster on FW reports that he was told that if he is not a owner he will have to pay the annual fee.
But then again, don't belie half of what they tell you.
BostonFlyer1624
Jun 14, 12, 9:50 am
Was thinking about this card too, until I saw this post. I dug further into the T&C's and noticed: "Previous and existing Ritz-Carlton or Marriott Rewards® Credit Card cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer"
Looks like if you already have a Marriott Credit Card, you won't get the bonus on this one. Bummer.
Open up a new Marriott Rewards account, wait for the points to be added, transfer points from one account to the other, close CC after 1 year.
Done.
crimson12
Jun 14, 12, 10:04 am
I wonder if you could pull a "two browser trick" to get both the Marriott and RC cards...
Long Islander
Jun 14, 12, 10:34 am
I should have waited for this offer...I got the Marriott card. The airport lounge benefit would have been awesome for me
Did you look at the list of airports? It's very limited. No lounge at La Guardia or DFW.
esquish
Jun 14, 12, 10:43 am
anyone know if you can use the upgrades on award stays?
also do you get the hotel credit on a two-night award stay?
jayzee9
Jun 14, 12, 11:23 am
I think people are overlooking how good of a deal this is. This is a card they normally charge $395 for free the first year.
70k Bonus points is great
$200 airline credit
Lounge Pass
Marriott Gold Status for a Year
Ritz Carlton Upgrade Certs.
No Foreign Exchange Fee
JP Morgan Concierge
In my mind this is the best first year fee-free credit card available right now, I applied and was just accepted for the card. I don't know how long this backdoor will be open, so I encourage anyone thinking about applying to do so now.
AlohaDaveKennedy
Jun 14, 12, 12:01 pm
If you have the Marriott Rewards card then you wuz robbed - no 70k.:eek:
Link (http://www.ritzcarltonclub.com/landing/insider/2012%2D06/)
0 introductory fee
70k points after first purchase
Earn Exceptional Rewards
• Earn 5 Ritz-Carlton Rewards points per $1 spent at The Ritz-Carlton hotels. *
• Earn 2 Ritz-Carlton Rewards points per $1 spent on airline tickets purchased directly with the airline, and at car rental
agencies and restaurants. *
• Earn 1 Ritz-Carlton Rewards point per $1 spent on all other card purchases. *
Enjoy Special Hotel Privileges
• Upgrade to The Ritz-Carlton Club® Level three times annually on stays of up to seven nights, subject to availability
at time of reservation. Advanced reservations and e-certificate are required. *
• Automatic Gold Elite status* in The Ritz-Carlton Rewards program your first year.
• Extra Hotel Experience with each two-night stay or longer at a Ritz-Carlton hotel. Celebrate with a $100 Hotel Credit to
be used toward your choice of dining, spa or other hotel recreational activities when reserving this offer. *
Experience Travel Benefits and Services
• Complimentary airport lounge access*
• $200 annual credit for airline incidentals*
• Premier Concierge Service and more*
Credit to Fatwallet.
Bored_Russian
Jun 14, 12, 12:06 pm
I think people are overlooking how good of a deal this is. This is a card they normally charge $395 for free the first year.
70k Bonus points is great
$200 airline credit
Lounge Pass
Marriott Gold Status for a Year
Ritz Carlton Upgrade Certs.
No Foreign Exchange Fee
JP Morgan Concierge
In my mind this is the best first year fee-free credit card available right now, I applied and was just accepted for the card. I don't know how long this backdoor will be open, so I encourage anyone thinking about applying to do so now.
• $200 annual credit for airline incidentals*
Not credit.
joshb
Jun 14, 12, 1:38 pm
Has anyone gotten an approval without being a Ritz Carlton Residences owner?
crimson12
Jun 14, 12, 1:40 pm
• $200 annual credit for airline incidentals*
Not credit.
True, although there may be ways to make this effectively "$200 cash back" as people have done with the Amex Platinum card.
IMO what makes this a good card is that there's no annual fee and no minimum spend. An easy card to run once at the grocery store and then toss in the "graveyard".
jayzee9
Jun 14, 12, 2:03 pm
Has anyone gotten an approval without being a Ritz Carlton Residences owner?
Yes, I applied this morning, got a call from Chase to reallocate my current lines of credit to accommodate this new card. There was no mention of the RC Residence Club Ownership, and the terms of the card say the fee is waved for the first year. I think it's a legitimate offer available to anyone with the link.
RedRiver
Jun 14, 12, 2:10 pm
Has anyone gotten an approval without being a Ritz Carlton Residences owner?
I don't think there's any risk in getting approved, as Chase will gladly give you the card so long as they don't deem you a credit risk. However, I suppose there is a possibility of not getting the points if you don't qualify. AMEX has done this in the past with some of their offers, but I don't see Chase doing it.
As always, YMMV.
MillenniumFlyer
Jun 14, 12, 9:24 pm
Is it confirmed that existing Marriott cardholders have indeed received the (50k) bonus for the RC card (despite the T/C)?
kdavid94588
Jun 14, 12, 9:31 pm
Yes, I applied this morning, got a call from Chase to reallocate my current lines of credit to accommodate this new card. There was no mention of the RC Residence Club Ownership, and the terms of the card say the fee is waved for the first year. I think it's a legitimate offer available to anyone with the link.
Did you get the confirmation regarding 70k from Chase?
BoardingPassBob
Jun 14, 12, 11:04 pm
This is a great offer.
My only hesitation is the residency requirement. Would they ding you for the annual fee if they determined you are not a residence? Anyone have any analogous situations with other cards and what the verification process looked like?
Thank you for your insight.
BoardingPassBob
MSYnola
Jun 15, 12, 8:30 am
Are Ritz points combinable with Marriott points or is it a whole separate rewards program? I know that Marriott points can be redeemed for awards at Ritz locations, but I was unaware that Ritz had its own separate rewards program.
krpjr
Jun 16, 12, 12:21 am
Are Ritz points combinable with Marriott points or is it a whole separate rewards program? I know that Marriott points can be redeemed for awards at Ritz locations, but I was unaware that Ritz had its own separate rewards program.
Combined...one program. I can login to Marriott.com or Ritzcarlton.com with my same Hotel #.
MSYnola
Jun 16, 12, 10:44 am
So, if I currently have 70k Marriott miles, and I sign up for this card, my new Marriott balance will be 140k, correct?
muji
Jun 16, 12, 10:57 am
From the original RC thread, people who have the Marriott card got the bonus, too.What thread are you referring to? Do you have a link you can provide?
ejh25
Jun 16, 12, 11:28 am
Has anyone with a previous Marriott Chase product been approved for this?
MSYnola
Jun 16, 12, 11:35 am
Has anyone with a previous Marriott Chase product been approved for this?
This is the million dollar question. Seems like a fantastic offer, and makes me wish I would have held off on getting the 70k Marriott card.
thehawk75
Jun 16, 12, 7:35 pm
To those who got the card, who does the inquiry? Same as typical Chase cards, or since this is a JP Morgan card, is it a different entity running credit?
Also, which bureau(s) did they pull?
Happy
Jun 16, 12, 8:46 pm
Has anyone with a previous Marriott Chase product been approved for this?
I think the question should more be like, receives the bonus on this or not? as Chase would gladly issue you the card should you pass its muster but that does not mean Chase would issue the bonus if you have the Marriott card before... Chase can and has been know on other similar situation, to send folks a nice letter to deny the bonus based on illegibility even it issues a card and CSR confirms the offer at activation.
If you have the Marriott Rewards card then you wuz robbed - no 70k.:eek:
gimmeyourmiles
Jun 17, 12, 12:34 pm
$200 incidental credit... does gift cards apply?
5DMarkIIguy
Jun 17, 12, 12:59 pm
What thread are you referring to? Do you have a link you can provide?
Has anyone with a previous Marriott Chase product been approved for this?
See previous post.
Kat007
Jun 18, 12, 3:51 pm
Very attractive offer, but I`m not sure if Chase will approve me for another card. I got UnitedPlus in November, UnitedPlus Business in May, and Priority Club in June. What are my chances of getting it?
Oh, and got AmEx Gold Premier in May also...
NttDocomo
Jun 20, 12, 10:52 pm
just wonder any words from anyone who have got the Marriott Visa already and still able to receive bonus with this card? Thanks very much :)
downright
Jun 21, 12, 8:20 am
Applied 6 days ago using the link posted above. Also have a Presidential Plus card that I have had for a couple years as well as some other Chase card that I never use. Never had a Marriott card. Also, not a RC residence owner.
After applying, got the message that my application needed further review, and I should receive a response within 30 days.
Noticed on my RC rewards page yesterday that my status changed to Gold and also saw the card profile jump up on Chase.com.
Will post again if and when I receive the 70k bonus, as well as confirmation as to whether or not the first year fee is waived. Of course, it says it may take the typical 6-8 weeks to post after my first purchase using the card, so we shall see. Hopefully worst case scenario is I get bumped down to the regular 50k point offer without having the fee waived. In that case, I'm just going dump my Amex Plat and save $55. Don't really use that card to its full potential.
kelly0726
Jun 21, 12, 9:06 am
I am newbie, so bare with me.
If apply and get approved, would I be considered gold for marriott rewards? And have those benefits?
downright
Jun 21, 12, 9:47 am
I am newbie, so bare with me.
If apply and get approved, would I be considered gold for marriott rewards? And have those benefits?
Yup, that's the case with me. I never had status with marriott or ritz, now both ritz and marriott websites state gold status.
romadaro
Jun 21, 12, 10:16 am
just wonder any words from anyone who have got the Marriott Visa already and still able to receive bonus with this card? Thanks very much :)
Probably too soon since this is a fairly new offer. Anyone who's been approved probably hasn't received their first statement yet, which would show the bonus. I just rolled the dice and applied. I have had the Marriott Premier Visa since it's inception, but don't think I got a bonus because it was an upgrade from the Marriott Signature Visa. I'm Lifetime Platinum with Marriott and have several Chase cards-United, Hyatt, Priority Club, Chase Freedom-so it will be interesting to see how they treat me on this application. I have a feeling they will approve me but want to reallocate some credit lines since I don't use all the cards. I'll let you know......
Kat007
Jun 21, 12, 11:05 am
So what`s the deal with residence req? In the application, I didn`t see anything about that, only the regular membership # field. Chase says "the computer verifies and links membership account with credit card" when I called backdoor number (I applied yesterday, but was anxious to know as lounge access will be needed soon)
Anybody got waved first year while being just a regular member?
5DMarkIIguy
Jun 21, 12, 12:11 pm
just wonder any words from anyone who have got the Marriott Visa already and still able to receive bonus with this card? Thanks very much :)
See 2 posts back.
holocker
Jun 21, 12, 3:53 pm
Can I put my Marriott number in the application where it asks for Ritz Carlton number?
Kat007
Jun 21, 12, 3:56 pm
Can I put my Marriott number in the application where it asks for Ritz Carlton number?
Yes, this is the number for both programs.
mnscout
Jun 21, 12, 10:10 pm
Probably too soon since this is a fairly new offer. Anyone who's been approved probably hasn't received their first statement yet, which would show the bonus. I just rolled the dice and applied. I have had the Marriott Premier Visa since it's inception, but don't think I got a bonus because it was an upgrade from the Marriott Signature Visa. I'm Lifetime Platinum with Marriott and have several Chase cards-United, Hyatt, Priority Club, Chase Freedom-so it will be interesting to see how they treat me on this application. I have a feeling they will approve me but want to reallocate some credit lines since I don't use all the cards. I'll let you know......
Obviously, if one with a previous Marriott account who has gotten the bonus before gets approved for Ritz they could call and verify that they will receive the bonus. You don't need to wait for the statement. I always do that and don't see any downside.
cruisr
Jun 22, 12, 7:22 am
Wow, nicest presentation of a credit card I have ever seen. Typical of Ritz Carlton. Very elegant black card. They are very efficient too. Checked my account and was showing as a Gold before I even received the card. Same thing for my Marriott account. Showing Gold immediately.
Happy
Jun 22, 12, 10:27 am
Obviously, if one with a previous Marriott account who has gotten the bonus before gets approved for Ritz they could call and verify that they will receive the bonus. You don't need to wait for the statement. I always do that and don't see any downside.
The only issue is, with Chase, even the front end CSR confirms the offer (which all s/he can see is what your application is attached to.), does not always mean you would receive it if you have the same bonus before. Chase can still deny you the bonus and send you a letter to inform you why is so, in no vague terms.
Until someone who has MR bonus before actually receive the bonus from this card, we would not know the real answer. Of course it means someone is willing to be the guinea pig to go first and report back the result... I am tempted but I just got the UA card less than 2 months ago... I also want the BA card which has proven result for previous cardholder - i.e. a sure shot versus still a crap shoot on this one... I would patiently wait and continue to monitor this thread for any useful data point.
Happy
Jun 22, 12, 10:30 am
Wow, nicest presentation of a credit card I have ever seen. Typical of Ritz Carlton. Very elegant black card. They are very efficient too. Checked my account and was showing as a Gold before I even received the card. Same thing for my Marriott account. Showing Gold immediately.
Have you received MR bonus before? If so, please do report back if you receive bonus on this card. Thanks!
Bored_Russian
Jun 22, 12, 1:07 pm
Wow, nicest presentation of a credit card I have ever seen. Typical of Ritz Carlton. Very elegant black card. They are very efficient too. Checked my account and was showing as a Gold before I even received the card. Same thing for my Marriott account. Showing Gold immediately.
Got mine today. Very posh. Too bad I;ll be using it 1 time only to buy myself a coke.
philemer
Jun 22, 12, 2:34 pm
After weighing the R-C (70K pts) vs the Fairmont card (two free nights + two lounge visits) we decided on the Fairmont. The Fairmont gives us two nights at the beautiful Fairmont Kai Lani in Maui & the RC card only gives us one night in Maui R-C (50K pts/night). I would like both but Chase is stingy with me. :)
Have you received MR bonus before? If so, please do report back if you receive bonus on this card. Thanks!
yes I would like to know too. I saw people got the 50k bonus version of this card even already have a Marriott card but don't know about this new version of the card.
Also I keep hearing experience with getting the bonus status posted with both the Marriott and RC account, now I wonder if the application is submitted without the Marriott account #, then wouldn't those points be under a totally new RC account and won't get associated with the old Marriott account hopefully allowing the RC sign-up bonus even after receiving the Marriott sign-up bonus? Just a though, any comment? Thanks.
Kat007
Jun 23, 12, 11:49 am
Anybody got the lounge card? It is supposed to be sent within 4-6 weeks per rep, but I`m wondering if anybody got faster.
My "timeline": 20.06 applied, 21.06 approved, 23.06 status changed to gold (no card shows on chaseonline.come yet)
Happy
Jun 23, 12, 4:45 pm
Anybody got the lounge card? It is supposed to be sent within 4-6 weeks per rep, but I`m wondering if anybody got faster.
My "timeline": 20.06 applied, 21.06 approved, 23.06 status changed to gold (no card shows on chaseonline.come yet)
Have you noticed 23.06 is a Saturday?
Kat007
Jun 23, 12, 4:54 pm
Have you noticed 23.06 is a Saturday?
Have you noticed I didn`t complained or asked about that?
My question was about the lounge passes.
holocker
Jun 23, 12, 6:17 pm
Do you need to wait and get a special lounge card with this or do you just show the AMEX card. I applied on Thursday- got a call on Friday to confirm income and then move around a crdit limit on another card and was approved and told I woudl receive the card in less than 2 weeks. Have a flight on Delta planned in a couple of weeks and was hoping to use it then for lounge access.
Kat007
Jun 23, 12, 6:21 pm
Do you need to wait and get a special lounge card with this or do you just show the AMEX card. I applied on Thursday- got a call on Friday to confirm income and then move around a crdit limit on another card and was approved and told I woudl receive the card in less than 2 weeks. Have a flight on Delta planned in a couple of weeks and was hoping to use it then for lounge access.
Yes, you have to have a separate lounge card, I called Ritz card and a rep told me that. And she said they could not expedite the delivery. I will call that lounge program shortly to ask them if they could do it for me though, have a trip planned as well.
P.S. this is not AmEx card
floyd777
Jun 23, 12, 11:39 pm
Most people here have been asking the question on whether they can still receive the points if they have already received the bonus on a Marriott card - my question is if anyone knows the reverse can work. Apply for this card, get the RC bonus and then apply for Marriot Card and get that bonus?
Is that workable? I don't see anything stopping someone getting Marriot bonus from the Marriot 50K (or 70K) T&C - what do you think?
Anyone tried doing a two browser trick on these two cards?
saacman5033
Jun 24, 12, 1:20 pm
Most people here have been asking the question on whether they can still receive the points if they have already received the bonus on a Marriott card - my question is if anyone knows the reverse can work. Apply for this card, get the RC bonus and then apply for Marriot Card and get that bonus?
Is that workable? I don't see anything stopping someone getting Marriot bonus from the Marriot 50K (or 70K) T&C - what do you think?
Anyone tried doing a two browser trick on these two cards?
I don't think either scenario should be a problem. While Chase may prevent getting the bonus repeatedly for the exact same card, I have never heard of them denying bonus miles for the first time getting a UNIQUE card. For example, there have been a couple of different UA cards from Chase and an individual could get the bonus for each unique card type at least once. Also, the Ink Bold card allowed individuals to get bonuses for both their old version and their new version.
romadaro
Jun 25, 12, 5:09 pm
Well, I have the Marriott Rewards Premier card and applied for this card 6 days ago and it appears that I was approved since the status has been changed to GOLD on my Ritz Carlton account, even though I'm lifetime Platinum in the Marriott program. Not complaining, though, since they probably don't comp to Platinum. I will wait and see if I receive the 70K points. Doesn't do any good to call since I've been told by an agent before that I would receive the points and didn't. Even if I don't get the points I won't be disappointed because there are enough other benefits to make having the card worth it-especially since it's free!
Happy
Jun 25, 12, 5:18 pm
I don't think either scenario should be a problem. While Chase may prevent getting the bonus repeatedly for the exact same card, I have never heard of them denying bonus miles for the first time getting a UNIQUE card. For example, there have been a couple of different UA cards from Chase and an individual could get the bonus for each unique card type at least once. Also, the Ink Bold card allowed individuals to get bonuses for both their old version and their new version.
The T&Cs specifically said Marriott Reward Cardholders are not eligible for this bonus (I dont remember the exact words but you can read them in the T&C section.)
Well, I have the Marriott Rewards Premier card and applied for this card 6 days ago and it appears that I was approved since the status has been changed to GOLD on my Ritz Carlton account, even though I'm lifetime Platinum in the Marriott program. Not complaining, though, since they probably don't comp to Platinum. I will wait and see if I receive the 70K points. Doesn't do any good to call since I've been told by an agent before that I would receive the points and didn't. Even if I don't get the points I won't be disappointed because there are enough other benefits to make having the card worth it-especially since it's free!
Exactly my point. Calling means nothing because CSR only knows what offer the application is attached to. Awarding the bonus is a back office function totally inaccessible by the front line CSRs. But if you haven't gotten and then inquire about why, the CSRs can then dig up the reason(s) Why - and you would be told what bonuses you have gotten on when, therefore you are not eligible on this one...
saacman5033
Jun 25, 12, 6:04 pm
The T&Cs specifically said Marriott Reward Cardholders are not eligible for this bonus (I dont remember the exact words but you can read them in the T&C section.)
It's definitely a good idea to remind folks to read all T&C's and I have indeed read these T&C's
My point was not how Chase words their offer, rather how they function in practice. In the example I gave regarding UA cards, they had the same general language prohibiting current or previous cardholders of UA Visa from getting the bonus. Yet I have never heard of Chase denying bonus points on a person's first time owning a UNIQUE card.
Not necessary. From the original RC thread, people who have the Marriott card got the bonus, too. Same T&C.
Happy
Jun 25, 12, 7:06 pm
It's definitely a good idea to remind folks to read all T&C's and I have indeed read these T&C's
My point was not how Chase words their offer, rather how they function in practice. In the example I gave regarding UA cards, they had the same general language prohibiting current or previous cardholders of UA Visa from getting the bonus. Yet I have never heard of Chase denying bonus points on a person's first time owning a UNIQUE card.
They function in practice is, WHEN IT IS NOT EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE SOMETHING, works the way you describe - i.e. different types of the same Affinity cards would work, such as if you have a regular MR card before, you would still get bonus for the Premium version. However, when it is Explicitly described, then it would be UNTIL it is proven otherwise by someone who has owned / received MR bonus before to get this card AND the bonus is awarded. Getting the card has never been an issue as long as you are deemed qualified, credit-wise. Getting the bonus awarded is a whole different matter, especially when such wording is in place.
I will eagerly await the actual reports from those who are testing the water. Hopefully it would be good news. So far I have not read any ACTUAL posts about the MR cardholders got the bonus other than the one passing mentioning by 5DMarkIIguy you have quoted.
Kat007
Jun 25, 12, 8:42 pm
Don`t know what`s going on with Chase. Got approved on 6/21, then called today and they said it was closed because the mother`s maiden name doesn`t match in their system. Then I called another line, they said the account is fine. Then called again to speed up the lounge card, and again-"the account has beet closed, we tried to call you", nobody did. So how did they messed up my mother`s maiden name-have no idea, but I`m on the phone again trying to find out...So far, I`ve been pretty happy with Chase (sometimes too happy), but not so today.
After a long wait on the phone, a manager could not find the reason why an adviser decided to close my account, but promised to call me after he finds out. This Ritz Carlton card has been a nightmare so far.
saacman5033
Jun 25, 12, 9:09 pm
They function in practice is, WHEN IT IS NOT EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE SOMETHING, works the way you describe - i.e. different types of the same Affinity cards would work, such as if you have a regular MR card before, you would still get bonus for the Premium version. However, when it is Explicitly described, then it would be UNTIL it is proven otherwise by someone who has owned / received MR bonus before to get this card AND the bonus is awarded.
I'll take your word for it as I have not seen points denied for cases as i described earlier. Taking a look again in light of this statement, we see that these T&Cs don't specifically preclude previous or current owners of the Marriott PREMIER card from getting the bonus. Thus, I'll go ahead and apply for the sake of the group and report back.
rwalia99
Jun 26, 12, 5:16 pm
Anyone know specifically what the $200 airline incidental credit will cover?
saacman5033
Jun 26, 12, 5:28 pm
Anyone know specifically what the $200 airline incidental credit will cover?
See the original Ritz card thread for examples:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1224449-chase-launching-ritz-carlton-credit-card-4.html#post17302443
You're safe with the basics such as luggage fees, inflight F&B purchases, etc. Things like gift cards may qualify based on discussions in that thread.
wiseguy
Jun 26, 12, 8:19 pm
I'm a Lifetime Marriott Platinum. Just got the Ritz Chase card today, called the Chase rep and confirmed the terms of the bonus, 70K with first purchase and the fee waived the first year.
When the 70K hits my account, I will post.
philemer
Jun 26, 12, 8:50 pm
I'm a Lifetime Marriott Platinum. Just got the Ritz Chase card today, called the Chase rep and confirmed the terms of the bonus, 70K with first purchase and the fee waived the first year.
When the 70K hits my account, I will post.
But, have you ever had one of the Chase Marriott cards? If not you will get he 70K, usually after your first stmt. closes.
floyd777
Jun 26, 12, 10:13 pm
Has anyone tried to do a application for both Marriot 70K and the Ritz Carlton 70K at the same time? I am thinking of doing that and if both get approved it's a possible 140K Marriot points which would be quite nice.
wiseguy
Jun 27, 12, 6:58 am
Yes, I've had one for at least 15 years....before they gave a bonus. Time will tell, but Chase says I'm getting the bonus.
Happy
Jun 27, 12, 8:52 am
Yes, I've had one for at least 15 years....before they gave a bonus. Time will tell, but Chase says I'm getting the bonus.
If you have not gotten any sign up bonus on your old MR card, you are ENTITLED to receive the bonus on either this card or even another MR card. Chase is very good in giving bonus where it is "legitimately" due. It even gives the differential between old bonus and new bonus when it initially denied a bonus. Happened to husband's CO OnePass cards.
Happy
Jun 27, 12, 8:56 am
I'll take your word for it as I have not seen points denied for cases as i described earlier. Taking a look again in light of this statement, we see that these T&Cs don't specifically preclude previous or current owners of the Marriott PREMIER card from getting the bonus. Thus, I'll go ahead and apply for the sake of the group and report back.
Thank You! We all look forward for data points on this front.
We know the current BA card offer that is only from the process of purchasing a BA ticket, does produce bonus for former BA card holders who have had the old 100K in 2009 and even early 2010. Though all reported success cases have their old BA cards canceled in 2010 or early 2011, i.e. nobody paid the 2nd year fee and went ahead to cancel it because previous BA cards did not have 1st year fee waived either.
romadaro
Jun 27, 12, 10:12 am
Don`t know what`s going on with Chase. Got approved on 6/21, then called today and they said it was closed because the mother`s maiden name doesn`t match in their system. Then I called another line, they said the account is fine. Then called again to speed up the lounge card, and again-"the account has beet closed, we tried to call you", nobody did. So how did they messed up my mother`s maiden name-have no idea, but I`m on the phone again trying to find out...So far, I`ve been pretty happy with Chase (sometimes too happy), but not so today.
After a long wait on the phone, a manager could not find the reason why an adviser decided to close my account, but promised to call me after he finds out. This Ritz Carlton card has been a nightmare so far.
I learned a long time ago to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to these things, particularly when it involves airline and hotel promotions. I've made calls on two occasions that I can remember, one involving Chase, where I was approved for a card, got the promotional points and then the call attracted someone's attention and the points were reversed and I got a nice letter afterward acknowledging the error. Unfortunately, in the Chase instance there wasn't much I could have done because it occurred when I called to activate the card-not to complain or question something. I always hope that I'll get an automated activation response when I call, but it's almost as if Chase directs the call to a human being so that they can take a look at the account and make sure that everything's in order.
But, as far as the Lounge Club card goes, unless you do a lot of international travel, the card is almost useless. My wife and I both have cards that are courtesy memberships through Merrill Lynch and I've used it once this year-at the Alaska Airlines Club in Seattle. Although I've flown internationally, since I'm Star Alliance Gold with United I get free access into any Star Gold lounge, which is usually more convenient. Just take a lok at their website for a list of lounges and I think you'll be disappointed at the locations.
Kat007
Jun 27, 12, 10:32 am
I learned a long time ago to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to these things, particularly when it involves airline and hotel promotions. I've made calls on two occasions that I can remember, one involving Chase, where I was approved for a card, got the promotional points and then the call attracted someone's attention and the points were reversed and I got a nice letter afterward acknowledging the error. Unfortunately, in the Chase instance there wasn't much I could have done because it occurred when I called to activate the card-not to complain or question something. I always hope that I'll get an automated activation response when I call, but it's almost as if Chase directs the call to a human being so that they can take a look at the account and make sure that everything's in order.
But, as far as the Lounge Club card goes, unless you do a lot of international travel, the card is almost useless. My wife and I both have cards that are courtesy memberships through Merrill Lynch and I've used it once this year-at the Alaska Airlines Club in Seattle. Although I've flown internationally, since I'm Star Alliance Gold with United I get free access into any Star Gold lounge, which is usually more convenient. Just take a lok at their website for a list of lounges and I think you'll be disappointed at the locations.
The lounge list has two airports I need, but again, I look positively: with a long layover, it`s a chance to get out of an airport and explore something.
Got a call this morning from one of the people who promised to call within 48 hours with the result, but he just put me through some other (security or fraud) guy who said "sorry, I don`t have any details" So that guy (a manager of some sort) though he completed the obligation by sending me to another one with "don`t know" answer.
I`m about to give up.
saacman5033
Jun 27, 12, 10:48 am
Thank You! We all look forward for data points on this front.
Well I applied yesterday. No instant approval but I don't usually get instant approvals from Chase. I'll give it a few days to pop up in my online acct before calling recon line.
We know the current BA card offer that is only from the process of purchasing a BA ticket, does produce bonus for former BA card holders who have had the old 100K in 2009 and even early 2010. Though all reported success cases have their old BA cards canceled in 2010 or early 2011, i.e. nobody paid the 2nd year fee and went ahead to cancel it because previous BA cards did not have 1st year fee waived either.
I know some have speculated that this may be due to BAs switch to Avios(ie new product) but Chase hasn't really changed their card other than the chip so I think this speaks more to the 'churnability' of Chase cards after a certain period
Happy
Jun 27, 12, 6:34 pm
I know some have speculated that this may be due to BAs switch to Avios(ie new product) but Chase hasn't really changed their card other than the chip so I think this speaks more to the 'churnability' of Chase cards after a certain period
I would not come to such conclusion unless Chase has policy change recently. Someone told me last year when he was denied a bonus from the UA card which his last one was canceled over 2 years ago, he inquired about why he did not get it. He got a response from Chase to list out all the bonuses he had gotten in the past - as far back as to 2006! And of course told him that was the reason why he would not get any now.
The only times I saw Chase would award bonus anew would be a New Product, especially when they even renamed the product from the past offerings.
floyd777
Jun 27, 12, 10:32 pm
Hey everyone,
I just applied for three credit cards in a mini churn - the Ritz Carlton from this thread, the Marriot 70K from another thread and the Citi AA Amex Card.
I did RC and Marriot at the same time
Unfortunately I got the message "Thank you for applying. Your application requires further review before we make a decision" for both RC and Marriot.
I got approved for the Citi AA Amex for the 50K miles with 3K spend in 4 month spend.
Should I call the reconsider line or just wait to see what Chase does? The most recent Chase card was about 3 months back which was an Ink Bold card.
Both the applications didn't give any number to call.
What a bummer!!
Kat007
Jun 27, 12, 10:58 pm
Unfortunately I got the message "Thank you for applying. Your application requires further review before we make a decision" for both RC and Marriot.
I got approved for the Citi AA Amex for the 50K miles with 3K spend in 4 month spend.
Should I call the reconsider line or just wait to see what Chase does? The most recent Chase card was about 3 months back which was an Ink Bold card.
Both the applications didn't give any number to call.
What a bummer!!
It doesn`t mean you were declined, AmEx usually approves you right away, but Chase normally has that message. It could be because of a time of a day/weekend. It never hurt to check a status of application. You can do it either by dialing any Chase card number you have; the systems asks you for last four digits of the account or after a silent two second asks if you want to check a status of your application or report a fraud. So you can find out that way, or call that back office number for a faster result.
romadaro
Jun 28, 12, 5:21 am
The lounge list has two airports I need, but again, I look positively: with a long layover, it`s a chance to get out of an airport and explore something.
Got a call this morning from one of the people who promised to call within 48 hours with the result, but he just put me through some other (security or fraud) guy who said "sorry, I don`t have any details" So that guy (a manager of some sort) though he completed the obligation by sending me to another one with "don`t know" answer.
I`m about to give up.
OK, now my Ritz Carlton Rewards account has reverted back to "Member" instead of GOLD status, so I called the RC Rewards customer service number (I hesitated to call Chase) and explained what had happened and she saw the changes, put me on hold and called Chase. When she came back she said that I had been initially approved for the credit card but the decision was changed because I responded to an offer that was only open to Ritz Carlton Residence owners. She told me I'd get a letter or email soon. So, even though the account may get initially approved through the normal channels they are checking on the back end to make sure you're a RC owner before they send the card. That is not to say that some before us haven't slipped through, but as luck would have it now they're doing their homework. I would assume that your account was probably closed for the same reason. Hopefully, end of mystery. :(
UserMark
Jun 28, 12, 7:05 am
In the space on the application for the "Ritz-Carlton Rewards Number", do you just put your current Marriott number?
romadaro
Jun 28, 12, 7:18 am
In the space on the application for the "Ritz-Carlton Rewards Number", do you just put your current Marriott number?
You can or if you leave it blank they will assign a new RC Rewards number. I have separate numbers for Marriott and RC but the points can still be used in either program.
MilesFreak08
Jun 28, 12, 9:11 am
You can or if you leave it blank they will assign a new RC Rewards number. I have separate numbers for Marriott and RC but the points can still be used in either program.
Good to to know - I did not know that they could be used in both programs. Thx!
leonard016
Jun 28, 12, 10:17 am
Looks like Chase is cracking down on the RC Residences owner requirement. Too bad.:( I was thinking of getting one for wife.
Thanks for reporting!
OK, now my Ritz Carlton Rewards account has reverted back to "Member" instead of GOLD status, so I called the RC Rewards customer service number (I hesitated to call Chase) and explained what had happened and she saw the changes, put me on hold and called Chase. When she came back she said that I had been initially approved for the credit card but the decision was changed because I responded to an offer that was only open to Ritz Carlton Residence owners. She told me I'd get a letter or email soon. So, even though the account may get initially approved through the normal channels they are checking on the back end to make sure you're a RC owner before they send the card. That is not to say that some before us haven't slipped through, but as luck would have it now they're doing their homework. I would assume that your account was probably closed for the same reason. Hopefully, end of mystery. :(
holocker
Jun 28, 12, 12:46 pm
I applied for this card last Thursday- got a call early Friday to confirm income and transfer part of a credit line from another chase card. Received the card yesterday, so it looks like I made it before the rules were changed. I do know I have the card fee free for the first year. I am already Marriott gold so my status would not have changed, will need to wait and see if I get the 70,000 bonus points as I already have a business Marriott Visa. I called today to ask a couple questions on the travel benefits. I am not 100% sure the agent knew the correct answers, but htis is what I found out.
As far as the $200 airline incidental credit. First she said it only covers expenses on the plane, then she added baggage fees. She did state it would pay for seat upgrades and not for arliine change fees.
As far as the lounge pass she told me if I do not get it before my travels I can visit one of the lounges and would get the fees reimbursed. I did ask if I could use any airline lounge and she said it had to be one on the list.
After the fact I thought of asking if other airline lounge fees would be reimbursed as part of the $200, so I may call back or if someone knows the answer let me know. Also the $200 reimbursement is based on calendar year.
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 1:26 pm
I applied for this card last Thursday- got a call early Friday to confirm income and transfer part of a credit line from another chase card. Received the card yesterday, so it looks like I made it before the rules were changed. I do know I have the card fee free for the first year. I am already Marriott gold so my status would not have changed, will need to wait and see if I get the 70,000 bonus points as I already have a business Marriott Visa. I called today to ask a couple questions on the travel benefits. I am not 100% sure the agent knew the correct answers, but htis is what I found out.
As far as the $200 airline incidental credit. First she said it only covers expenses on the plane, then she added baggage fees. She did state it would pay for seat upgrades and not for arliine change fees.
As far as the lounge pass she told me if I do not get it before my travels I can visit one of the lounges and would get the fees reimbursed. I did ask if I could use any airline lounge and she said it had to be one on the list.
After the fact I thought of asking if other airline lounge fees would be reimbursed as part of the $200, so I may call back or if someone knows the answer let me know. Also the $200 reimbursement is based on calendar year.
Thanks for the post, I found out a couple of new things for myself about $200 airline credit. I think they go through this procedure of checking and closing accounts because it is a not just a Chase card, but a premium one, and you also get to talk to executive line with this card. What` s the credit limit they gave you? I know it`s has to be minimum of $5K.
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 1:34 pm
Hopefully, end of mystery. :(
They still say they don`t know, I assume it was an error of dialing my number. I know for sure this JP Morgan product is a bit different from other Chase products. They can open a new account for you if you`d like (since your credit was sufficient for initial approval), just call the back door number, maybe with 50K bonus points or a different card.
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 1:41 pm
Looks like Chase is cracking down on the RC Residences owner requirement. Too bad.:( I was thinking of getting one for wife.
Thanks for reporting!
I just checked 50K offer, and couldn`t find any restrictions, and annual fee could be waived. (I would think)
leonard016
Jun 28, 12, 1:47 pm
The regular 50K offer does not have Ritz Residences owner requirement, but still saying "no bonus for existing or previous Marriott credit cards holders". And perhaps most importantly, the annual fee is NOT waived!
I just checked 50K offer, and couldn`t find any restrictions, and annual fee could be waived. (I would think)
romadaro
Jun 28, 12, 2:13 pm
They still say they don`t know, I assume it was an error of dialing my number. I know for sure this JP Morgan product is a bit different from other Chase products. They can open a new account for you if you`d like (since your credit was sufficient for initial approval), just call the back door number, maybe with 50K bonus points or a different card.
Have you tried calling the RC Rewards Customer Service number? That's how I got the info so quickly on what happened with my approval/denial. It took all of 10 minutes for me to get an answer. After she told me, she did tell me about the 50K bonus offer and told me that if I wanted to take advantage of that offer I could since my application had already been through the credit review process. When she told me that the fee would not be waived, I declined.
jethro
Jun 28, 12, 3:16 pm
thanks for the info romadaro.......you got me thinking Fairmont is the next way to go now!
mnscout
Jun 28, 12, 8:00 pm
thanks for the info romadaro.......you got me thinking Fairmont is the next way to go now!
What do you mean?
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 8:47 pm
What is the best use of the card, anyways?
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 8:52 pm
Have you tried calling the RC Rewards Customer Service number? That's how I got the info so quickly on what happened with my approval/denial. It took all of 10 minutes for me to get an answer.
Yes, I have, my case is related to something different.
floyd777
Jun 28, 12, 9:49 pm
It doesn`t mean you were declined, AmEx usually approves you right away, but Chase normally has that message. It could be because of a time of a day/weekend. It never hurt to check a status of application. You can do it either by dialing any Chase card number you have; the systems asks you for last four digits of the account or after a silent two second asks if you want to check a status of your application or report a fraud. So you can find out that way, or call that back office number for a faster result.
Just wanted to report that I got a call from Chase this morning and I called back. They listed out all my cards and asked if I can move some credit over to this card. I said yes and the card was approved with a 10K credit limit.
I then confirmed the bonus on this card and they said that it is 70K points on first purchase. Forgot to ask about annual fee but I have kept screenshots of the page which states that the annual fee is waived for the first year.
I also applied for the marriot card - at the same time as RC which was last night and that too had gone to pending but I am just going to wait a couple of days before I call.
Any one know the reconsideration line for the marriot card?
Thanks
Kat007
Jun 28, 12, 9:57 pm
any one know the reconsideration line for the marriot card?
Thanks
888-245-0625
jethro
Jun 29, 12, 5:33 am
What do you mean?
From Romadaro's earlier post:
OK, now my Ritz Carlton Rewards account has reverted back to "Member" instead of GOLD status, so I called the RC Rewards customer service number (I hesitated to call Chase) and explained what had happened and she saw the changes, put me on hold and called Chase. When she came back she said that I had been initially approved for the credit card but the decision was changed because I responded to an offer that was only open to Ritz Carlton Residence owners. She told me I'd get a letter or email soon. So, even though the account may get initially approved through the normal channels they are checking on the back end to make sure you're a RC owner before they send the card. That is not to say that some before us haven't slipped through, but as luck would have it now they're doing their homework. I would assume that your account was probably closed for the same reason. Hopefully, end of mystery.
As a MR premier card carrier I will choose to apply for a Fairmont Visa instead of the Ritz Carlton card. Should be little risk with this play and I can avoid the hassle of not being a RC property owner as well as an existing MR card member, since both could be potential road blocks. JMO
downright
Jun 29, 12, 9:02 am
Got my card about a week ago. Also received a stock welcome email a couple days ago which states that I will receive the Lounge Club card separately. It also states that I will receive the 70K bonus after my first purchase. No mention of the waived fee, so I guess that is definitely still up in the air. And as far as the 70K goes, I will confirm when and if it hits my account.
mnscout
Jun 29, 12, 10:13 am
From Romadaro's earlier post:
OK, now my Ritz Carlton Rewards account has reverted back to "Member" instead of GOLD status, so I called the RC Rewards customer service number (I hesitated to call Chase) and explained what had happened and she saw the changes, put me on hold and called Chase. When she came back she said that I had been initially approved for the credit card but the decision was changed because I responded to an offer that was only open to Ritz Carlton Residence owners. She told me I'd get a letter or email soon. So, even though the account may get initially approved through the normal channels they are checking on the back end to make sure you're a RC owner before they send the card. That is not to say that some before us haven't slipped through, but as luck would have it now they're doing their homework. I would assume that your account was probably closed for the same reason. Hopefully, end of mystery.
As a MR premier card carrier I will choose to apply for a Fairmont Visa instead of the Ritz Carlton card. Should be little risk with this play and I can avoid the hassle of not being a RC property owner as well as an existing MR card member, since both could be potential road blocks. JMO
Oh, I've got it. I thought by you meant that somehow Faiirmont Visa would also start denying the benefits like RC. Just misunderstood.
floyd777
Jun 29, 12, 1:33 pm
Just wanted to report back that I got approved for the Marriot card too.
Kat007
Jun 29, 12, 1:36 pm
Just wanted to report back that I got approved for the Marriot card too.
Congrats!
Please let us know about airline incidentals (what exactly they cover) when you get more info.
dayone
Jun 29, 12, 3:25 pm
The Lounge Club card arrived 8 days after the RC card. I already used it to check out The Club at DFW.
Kat007
Jun 29, 12, 3:28 pm
The Lounge Club card arrived 8 days after the RC card. I already used it to check out The Club at DFW.
Was it sent by USPS or UPS/FedEx?
How`s the club at DFW?
dayone
Jun 29, 12, 5:28 pm
Was it sent by USPS or UPS/FedEx?
How`s the club at DFW?
USPS.
Better booze and slightly better selection of snacks than AA or UA. Much less crowded.
leonard016
Jun 29, 12, 5:29 pm
You can find some information from the original RC card thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1224449-chase-launching-ritz-carlton-credit-card.html
I have been reimbursed for bag fees and award booking fees. The difference from Amex Plat's $200 program is that you don;t need to designate a single airline but you do need to call JPM to ask for credit (it is not automatic). It was pretty straightforward when I called them to request credit.
Congrats!
Please let us know about airline incidentals (what exactly they cover) when you get more info.
Kat007
Jun 29, 12, 5:35 pm
You can find some information from the original RC card thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1224449-chase-launching-ritz-carlton-credit-card.html
I have been reimbursed for bag fees and award booking fees. The difference from Amex Plat's $200 program is that you don;t need to designate a single airline but you do need to call JPM to ask for credit (it is not automatic). It was pretty straightforward when I called them to request credit.
Do you mean they reimbursed you tax on the award ticket or something different, and you didn`t pay anything when redeeming the miles? If they do that and no money out of pocket gets involved, only the miles, then it`s a pretty good incentives for me.
leonard016
Jul 1, 12, 10:17 am
Yes taxes and fees imposed by the carries when you use your miles.
Do you mean they reimbursed you tax on the award ticket or something different, and you didn`t pay anything when redeeming the miles? If they do that and no money out of pocket gets involved, only the miles, then it`s a pretty good incentives for me.
Bored_Russian
Jul 2, 12, 12:05 am
USPS.
Better booze and slightly better selection of snacks than AA or UA. Much less crowded.
Family members get in free from what I understand. Any idea?
leonard016
Jul 2, 12, 10:32 am
Priority Pass Select from the Ritz-Carlton Visa allows access for you plus one guest. I don't expect they will change that when switching from Priority Pass Select to Lounge Club.
Family members get in free from what I understand. Any idea?
Kat007
Jul 2, 12, 10:56 am
Family members get in free from what I understand. Any idea?
Each lounge has its own rules regarding the guests. Check loungeclub.com or the lounges website directly.
leonard016
Jul 2, 12, 1:39 pm
Each lounge has its own rules regarding the guests. Check loungeclub.com or the lounges website directly.
My understanding is that Lounge Club (Priority Pass) set up the rules other than the individual lounges. Lounge Club was launched to replaced Priority Pass Select (PPS) to avoid confusions.
Priority Pass paid membership has three levels and the Prestige Level ($399) allows the member unlimited lounge access but a guest will be $27. Different credit cards' offers of free Lounge Club/PPS are over all the place in terms of lounge access for members and guests. For example, Amex Plat's PPS allows unlimited access for member only and one guest is $27. Ritz-Carlton Visa and Palladium's Lounge Club allows unlimited access for the member plus one guest. Hilton Amex Surpass get you the basic PPS with which you pay $27 for yourself or a guest.
Bored_Russian
Jul 2, 12, 2:12 pm
Priority Pass Select from the Ritz-Carlton Visa allows access for you plus one guest. I don't expect they will change that when switching from Priority Pass Select to Lounge Club.
The one I'll be hanging at the soonest is Narita terminal 1. It said under 2 are free and nothing about guests, so i just called them and was told with this Ritz card / lounge club membership all guests are free.
leonard016
Jul 2, 12, 6:25 pm
The one I'll be hanging at the soonest is Narita terminal 1. It said under 2 are free and nothing about guests, so i just called them and was told with this Ritz card / lounge club membership all guests are free.
Who did you all? Lounge Club or the NRT lounge?
Kat007
Jul 2, 12, 8:11 pm
Overall, I think this card is a keeper. The only disadvantage, when comparing to AmEx Platinum, is that the points cannot be transferred into miles in a ratio 1:1, otherwise, it offers great benefits, especially if you like luxury hotel brands.
Kat007
Jul 2, 12, 8:13 pm
My understanding is that Lounge Club (Priority Pass) set up the rules other than the individual lounges. Lounge Club was launched to replaced Priority Pass Select (PPS) to avoid confusions.
Priority Pass paid membership has three levels and the Prestige Level ($399) allows the member unlimited lounge access but a guest will be $27. Different credit cards' offers of free Lounge Club/PPS are over all the place in terms of lounge access for members and guests. For example, Amex Plat's PPS allows unlimited access for member only and one guest is $27. Ritz-Carlton Visa and Palladium's Lounge Club allows unlimited access for the member plus one guest. Hilton Amex Surpass get you the basic PPS with which you pay $27 for yourself or a guest.
I saw limitation of two guests and no limitations at all, so I believe it depends on a lounge and their ability to host.
Bored_Russian
Jul 2, 12, 9:37 pm
Who did you all? Lounge Club or the NRT lounge?
The club
downright
Jul 3, 12, 7:10 am
I saw limitation of two guests and no limitations at all, so I believe it depends on a lounge and their ability to host.
Got my Lounge Club card yesterday. While I don't recall what the letter stated word for word, it said that "you and your guests" will be able to use the lounges. However, on the Lounge Club website, when you look up certain lounges, some state only one guest is permitted free of charge. So I would agree with you, that certain lounges do have limitations on the number of guests.
mia
Jul 3, 12, 7:31 am
... However, on the Lounge Club website, when you look up certain lounges, some state only one guest is permitted free of charge. So I would agree with you, that certain lounges do have limitations on the number of guests.
There are two separate issues. 1) How many guests does the lounge permit? 2) What guest charges apply? The lounge has no information about the second question which is determined by the contract between the card issue (Chase) and the program operator (Lounge Club).
Bored_Russian
Jul 3, 12, 10:25 am
Got my Lounge Club card yesterday. While I don't recall what the letter stated word for word, it said that "you and your guests" will be able to use the lounges. However, on the Lounge Club website, when you look up certain lounges, some state only one guest is permitted free of charge. So I would agree with you, that certain lounges do have limitations on the number of guests.
From what i was told by native english speaking rep, membership level that comes with Ritz credit card is the highest for this Lounge Club program. So lets hope he was right.
holocker
Jul 3, 12, 10:37 am
For people that have gotten their lounge card- how long did it take from the time you received the credit card?
Kat007
Jul 3, 12, 11:09 am
For people that have gotten their lounge card- how long did it take from the time you received the credit card?
Some reported 8 days after receiving the credit card, the packet/booklet says within two weeks.
downright
Jul 3, 12, 11:14 am
For people that have gotten their lounge card- how long did it take from the time you received the credit card?
It was a little over a week.
leonard016
Jul 3, 12, 6:05 pm
There are two separate issues. 1) How many guests does the lounge permit? 2) What guest charges apply? The lounge has no information about the second question which is determined by the contract between the card issue (Chase) and the program operator (Lounge Club).
This is precisely the point.
When I called Priority Pass (that was before the whole Lounge Club switch over), I was told that Ritz-Carlton Visa's Priority Pass allows one free guest. I may call Lounge Club again to see if anything has been changed. I think the possibility of change is small though.
leonard016
Jul 3, 12, 6:24 pm
I have no doubt this is the highest level. That simply means unlimited access for the member, compared to lower levels where you as a member may need to pay $27 to enter.
However, this still does not answer the question of how many guests will be admitted free of charge. See my previous posts - Ritz-Carlton's allows one guest for free (if things haven't been changed since the switch over to Lounge Club) while many others credit cards' allow none for free.
In reality, lounges all operate differently. Some asks your to sign a receipt specifying how many guest you are bringing. If number of guests exceeds the free allowance tied to your membership, you may get charged. But on the spot the lounge won't know how many guests you will be charged since memberships offered by different credit cards are different. The logs will be transmitted to Lounge Club (Priority Pass) for verification. That is when you will be charged if the charges apply.
From what i was told by native english speaking rep, membership level that comes with Ritz credit card is the highest for this Lounge Club program. So lets hope he was right.
Kat007
Jul 4, 12, 1:51 pm
Can someone please clarify about $200 incidentals-is it for spend within calendar year (till the Dec 31, 2012) or as with Club Level upgrades-three times within a validation of your credit card.
Also, if I purchase a couple of mini bottles on transatlantic and get out in Europe for a couple of hours during a long layover, will be I having troubles taking them into the airport if flying within Europe? And will the card cover them?
dayone
Jul 4, 12, 3:00 pm
Can someone please clarify about $200 incidentals-is it for spend within calendar year (till the Dec 31, 2012) or as with Club Level upgrades-three times within a validation of your credit card.
Also, if I purchase a couple of mini bottles on transatlantic and get out in Europe for a couple of hours during a long layover, will be I having troubles taking them into the airport if flying within Europe? And will the card cover them?
In general, minis count as 3-ounce liquids, so one (theoretically) could fill a quart baggie with them. I wouldn't recommend that. I've had no problem transiting with up to 3 minis. If you buy the minis on board and the charge posts from an airline, it will be credited.
The terms of the benefit state "calendar year":
$200 Annual Airline Incidentals Fee Reimbursement: To request a statement credit to apply to qualifying airline incidental net purchase(s) made with your Ritz-Carlton Rewards Credit Card, you must contact J.P.Morgan Priority Services at the number on the back of your Ritz-Carlton Rewards Credit Card within 4 billing cycles of the purchase date. This offer applies only to non-ticket purchases made with merchants that classify their merchant location for Visa in the airline category. We do not determine whether merchants correctly identify and bill transactions as being made in a particular category. However, we do reserve the right to determine which purchases qualify for statement credits. Statement credit will post to your account within 5-7 business days and will appear on your monthly credit card billing statement within 1-2 billing cycles. Qualifying purchases made by authorized users on your account are eligible for statement credits; however, only the obligor on the account, not authorized users, may request statement credits. Maximum statement credit accumulation for this offer is $200 per calendar year.
mia
Jul 4, 12, 3:10 pm
Please use the existing thread in the Marriott forum to search or ask for information about the features and benefits of this card:
For people that have gotten their lounge card- how long did it take from the time you received the credit card?
RC Visa received on June 28. Lounge Club Card received today, July 5.
For Chicago (ORD), Swiss Lounge in Terminal 5 is the only one listed. Would be great to hear from anyone who has used the card for this lounge. We will be in T-5 next month and will take a peek in there.
Bored_Russian
Jul 5, 12, 3:04 pm
However, this still does not answer the question of how many guests will be admitted free of charge.
As I was told over the phone "all guests" are free. I'll see if its true when I fly into Narita airport next week.
Happy
Jul 5, 12, 3:12 pm
RC Visa received on June 28. Lounge Club Card received today, July 5.
For Chicago (ORD), Swiss Lounge in Terminal 5 is the only one listed. Would be great to hear from anyone who has used the card for this lounge. We will be in T-5 next month and will take a peek in there.
Dont have your expectation on Swiss lounge too high. The lounge is SMALL. Dont know outside CX flight time, what it has to offer.
To learn more you can hop to CX forum and search Swiss lounge because for some inexplicable reason CX uses Swiss lounge for its daily flight ORD-HKG instead of using BA lounge - probably because Swiss lounge is CHEAPER!
I am not even sure you could get in during the time CX would take over the lounge. When we were there last November (flying CX J ORD-HKG), a guy with Priority Club pass and a CX Marco Polo Diamond, but was in coach on the same flight, was denied access - the lounge dragon said it would be CX J/F passengers only during CX flight time. The guy was sent to SAS lounge instead - where the lounge was more spacious but very little foods (cracker and lunch-size apple), water only. Nobody was there but the attendant at the entrance.
dante60093
Jul 5, 12, 3:32 pm
Dont have your expectation on Swiss lounge too high. The lounge is SMALL. Dont know outside CX flight time, what it has to offer.
To learn more you can hop to CX forum and search Swiss lounge because for some inexplicable reason CX uses Swiss lounge for its daily flight ORD-HKG instead of using BA lounge - probably because Swiss lounge is CHEAPER!
I am not even sure you could get in during the time CX would take over the lounge.
Thanks Happy. I will temper my expectations. Might even skip the Swiss Lounge actually because we are in BA F (ORD-LHR) next month (8:35 PM dep) and may spend the time in the BA lounge, which itself is not much to write home about.
But we will be on the ORD-HKG flight in CX J in March 2013 and looks like will get to experience the Swiss Lounge then for sure.
leonard016
Jul 6, 12, 10:45 am
As I was told over the phone "all guests" are free. I'll see if its true when I fly into Narita airport next week.
I made a phone call to Lounge Club myself. I was told the same thing - unlimited access for yourself and unlimited access for all your guests free of charge. Of course, each lounge has its own restriction on how many guests you can bring but as long as they let your group in, Lounge Club/JPM Chase won't charge you. This is certainly interesting since when I had Priority Pass Select from Ritz-Carlton Visa before the switch, I was told one guest is free and the 2nd one will be $27. And I believe there are other reports suggesting the same. That is why I always had one guest at most except once I had two, but they did not charge me for that time. I don't know if I was just lucky or they have had it set up that way since the beginning. Anyway sorry about the confusion I may have caused in previous posts since I assumed that they wouldn't change the policy for Ritz-Carlton cardholders when switching from PPS to Lounge Club.
Please report back and thanks for sharing. But note that you probably won't know on the spot whether you will be charged since it is up to Lounge Club to determine which product you have linked to your membership. It takes some time to transmit the logs from individual lounges back to Lounge Club.
dayone
Jul 7, 12, 3:50 pm
Why the concern for post-visit charges? Lounge Club does not have any personal credit card info on file.
RC Lounge Club memberships bill to a master account. Check "Payment Details" under "My Account."
trey
Jul 8, 12, 7:28 am
has anyone had the 70k points posted to their marriott account yet?
heta
Jul 8, 12, 10:13 am
So this offer is technically expired for non-RC residence owners? Read few pages back that they started to check whether you are RC residence owner. Has that been the case recently?
ngls
Jul 8, 12, 10:23 am
I have applied and got approved last week. I'm waiting for the card in the mail. I called Chase and confirmed the bonus and that first year annual fee is waived. I hope I won't get shut down later...
esquish
Jul 9, 12, 4:05 am
do you think my chances of getting both bonuses will be better or worse if i apply to the RC and marriott cards on the same day?
saacman5033
Jul 9, 12, 11:17 am
So this offer is technically expired for non-RC residence owners? Read few pages back that they started to check whether you are RC residence owner. Has that been the case recently?
I think this is a case of YMMV. I applied about a week after romadero applied but before he reported being denied for not being a RC residence owner. My card showed up last week without a hitch and indeed shows as being fee free the first year.
leonard016
Jul 9, 12, 2:37 pm
Why the concern for post-visit charges? Lounge Club does not have any personal credit card info on file.
RC Lounge Club memberships bill to a master account. Check "Payment Details" under "My Account."
Lounge Club does have your credit card on file - whichever card that gives you the free membership, in this case the Ritz-Carlton Visa.
leonard016
Jul 9, 12, 2:38 pm
I think this is a case of YMMV. I applied about a week after romadero applied but before he reported being denied for not being a RC residence owner. My card showed up last week without a hitch and indeed shows as being fee free the first year.
Thanks for reporting back!
dayone
Jul 9, 12, 3:04 pm
Lounge Club does have your credit card on file - whichever card that gives you the free membership, in this case the Ritz-Carlton Visa.
Source?
Happy
Jul 9, 12, 5:27 pm
Source?
I believe either in this thread or some other threads about the Priority Club lounge access - that enough people reported that they had to sign slips for bringing in guests. In the cases where the guest number exceeded the allowed number, they received a charge on their cards weeks later. So, without "Source", just by reading various threads, there are empirical data points to indicate that the clubs do have the ability to bill you back, albeit may not be directly - but the charge does show up on your related card.
heta
Jul 9, 12, 6:35 pm
I think this is a case of YMMV. I applied about a week after romadero applied but before he reported being denied for not being a RC residence owner. My card showed up last week without a hitch and indeed shows as being fee free the first year.
Interesting. I will apply myself within few days and report back!
dayone
Jul 9, 12, 9:56 pm
I believe either in this thread or some other threads about the Priority Club lounge access - that enough people reported that they had to sign slips for bringing in guests. In the cases where the guest number exceeded the allowed number, they received a charge on their cards weeks later. So, without "Source", just by reading various threads, there are empirical data points to indicate that the clubs do have the ability to bill you back, albeit may not be directly - but the charge does show up on your related card.
I think you and others are assuming that the RC Lounge Club arrangement is the same as other lounge cards. I don't believe it is.
Yes, you sign a slip when you enter, but that is only for LC accounting. There is no way to incur a charge with RC LC since there is no entrance fee or guest fee (all guests are free up to the lounge limit) so LC does not have a need for CC info.
I can find no mention in either the RC or LC terms indicating that one's CC is shared with LC.
leonard016
Jul 10, 12, 12:14 pm
When RC Visa had Priority Pass Select before switching to Lounge Club, only one guest was free.
Now things may be different. But since it is not spelled out clearly on any of the materials (even though I was told by a LC rep over the phone), I was just suggesting watching out for unexpected charges.
I think you and others are assuming that the RC Lounge Club arrangement is the same as other lounge cards. I don't believe it is.
Yes, you sign a slip when you enter, but that is only for LC accounting. There is no way to incur a charge with RC LC since there is no entrance fee or guest fee (all guests are free up to the lounge limit) so LC does not have a need for CC info.
I can find no mention in either the RC or LC terms indicating that one's CC is shared with LC.
romadaro
Jul 10, 12, 1:07 pm
I think this is a case of YMMV. I applied about a week after romadero applied but before he reported being denied for not being a RC residence owner. My card showed up last week without a hitch and indeed shows as being fee free the first year.
Ironically, my wife applied last week and was APPROVED so I called the recon line at Chase to ask what the deal was because my wife isn't a RC owner (unless she's holding out on me!) Anyway, the rep looked at it and said that there had been some discussion about rejecting applications of non RC owners but then they decided not to. He said that my app must've been submitted around that time and got caught in the web. He apologized and approved my card with a $20K limit and told me that I should have the card in about a week. Reluctantly, I asked him about the bonus and he said that was under review, as well, and he wasn't sure what the final decision was but last he heard the card would be fee free for the first year but no points if you'd previously received a bonus for another Marriott or Ritz card. He told me not to hold him to that, however, and to enjoy them if I got them! So, the bottom line is that I guess we will all have to wait and see.....
cjpat44
Jul 12, 12, 7:48 am
Some data points. Before applying I had 5 chase personal cards (including marriott) and 1 chase business. Last chase card was opened around 60 days ago. I applied last week and got "application under review" page. On thursday, card was showing up on chase page and they cancelled my marriott card and moved that credit over to the ritz-carlton card. Card was overnighted and delivered Friday. This week, I got email saying that I would receive 70,000 points upon first purchase.
esquish
Jul 12, 12, 10:35 am
tpg reports on a public 70k offer which does not waive the first year fee and requires $2k spend in the first three months. i wonder if this is chase's response to the amount of non RC owner interest?
Happy
Jul 12, 12, 10:37 am
Some data points. Before applying I had 5 chase personal cards (including marriott) and 1 chase business. Last chase card was opened around 60 days ago. I applied last week and got "application under review" page. On thursday, card was showing up on chase page and they cancelled my marriott card and moved that credit over to the ritz-carlton card. Card was overnighted and delivered Friday. This week, I got email saying that I would receive 70,000 points upon first purchase.
Please do report back if you actually get the 70K bonus points.
The welcome email is standard for anyone who gets this card.
It remains to be seen if one has Marriott bonus recently would still get the bonus from the RC card.
NttDocomo
Jul 13, 12, 2:04 am
Hi I have just applied for this card and got approved through the reconsideration line. I asked the representative and she confirmed that I got the 70k bonus but cannot confirm that the yearly fee is waived. I have seen different posts about the fee not being waived for non-Riz residence and I am not one, is it likely that Chase found out and charge everyone the yearly fee while still giving the 70k bonus. Just wonder anyone has experienced the same? Thanks
mnscout
Jul 13, 12, 2:04 am
Some data points. Before applying I had 5 chase personal cards (including marriott) and 1 chase business. Last chase card was opened around 60 days ago. I applied last week and got "application under review" page. On thursday, card was showing up on chase page and they cancelled my marriott card and moved that credit over to the ritz-carlton card. Card was overnighted and delivered Friday. This week, I got email saying that I would receive 70,000 points upon first purchase.
Wait a second, the canceled your Marriott without you asking them first?
cjpat44
Jul 13, 12, 5:42 am
Wait a second, the canceled your Marriott without you asking them first?
Yes, I thought it odd too. Before, Chase has called me (I don't always call the reconsideration line right away) and asked to move credit around. This time, however, they didn't call and just cancelled the card, moving the full credit line over. It was a 20k credit line, so they could have split if they wanted to. The Marriott card was the card I used least, so perhaps that is why they chose it.
newbieflyer1
Jul 13, 12, 7:30 am
Yes, I thought it odd too. Before, Chase has called me (I don't always call the reconsideration line right away) and asked to move credit around. This time, however, they didn't call and just cancelled the card, moving the full credit line over. It was a 20k credit line, so they could have split if they wanted to. The Marriott card was the card I used least, so perhaps that is why they chose it.
even when i applied 80k priority visa card the first card they wanted to cancel was marriot even though i had chase sapphire,hyatt and fairmont
GetawaysRus
Jul 13, 12, 1:25 pm
Wait a second, the canceled your Marriott without you asking them first?
Ooh, not good. I was starting to get tempted, but that would be a problem. My Marriott Black (Premier) card is one of my older card accounts, and I do take advantage of the free night e-certificate each year. The Marriott card is one of my "keepers."
Would appreciate reports from others who have an existing Marriott credit card and also apply for the Ritz-Carlton card. What did Chase do about your Marriott card?
austin_modern
Jul 13, 12, 3:42 pm
Are Ritz-Carlton points and Marriott points the same - coming from the same pool? I noticed my Marriott number signs into RC.
Simpler question: If I have a Marriott account and apply for this credit card: will I get marriott points? (since you can't have both a ritz and marriott account). Im sure this was covered prior, but I can't find it in the search.
crimson12
Jul 13, 12, 4:36 pm
Are Ritz-Carlton points and Marriott points the same - coming from the same pool? I noticed my Marriott number signs into RC.
Simpler question: If I have a Marriott account and apply for this credit card: will I get marriott points? (since you can't have both a ritz and marriott account). Im sure this was covered prior, but I can't find it in the search.
You will get "Ritz Carlton points", but you can redeem those points at a Marriott hotel.
austin_modern
Jul 13, 12, 6:08 pm
You will get "Ritz Carlton points", but you can redeem those points at a Marriott hotel.
so one would have both ritz carlton points and marriott points under the marriott account? (since you're only allowed to have one.)
NttDocomo
Jul 13, 12, 7:53 pm
Hi I have just applied for this card and got approved through the reconsideration line. I asked the representative and she confirmed that I got the 70k bonus but cannot confirm that the yearly fee is waived. I have seen different posts about the fee not being waived for non-Riz residence and I am not one, is it likely that Chase found out and charge everyone the yearly fee while still giving the 70k bonus. Just wonder anyone has experienced the same? Thanks
Hi just wonder if anyone may help answer my questions? Still in the dark don't know how to verify whether I will received this card without yearly fee, thanks
wise2u
Jul 13, 12, 9:08 pm
Hi just wonder if anyone may help answer my questions? Still in the dark don't know how to verify whether I will received this card without yearly fee, thanks
when you get it and activate it they will tell you. Then you have the choice to accept or cancel activation.
I signed my wife up since she has never gotten the marriott card and took screenshots of everything....nothing in the application says you have to be an owner!! when we call the consideration line, if asked, a friend or coworker who knows we like Ritz gave us the link. With full documentation and no stipulation in the t&c's I don't see how thay can deny her.
The real question will be when she gets the marriott card in the future whether they will change the t&c to exclude RC card holders from the MR signup bonus.
MVF Trekker
Jul 13, 12, 11:53 pm
so one would have both ritz carlton points and marriott points under the marriott account? (since you're only allowed to have one.)
Ritz Carlton is owned by Marriott and it's one of their luxury property brands along with Bulgari and JW Marriott. The RC and Marriott Rewards programs are technically 2 separate programs and you can only be a member of one of them. Moreover, there's no need to be a member of both because they have the same earning and redemption capabilities. That is, RC members can earn points for both RC and Marriott stays and redeem points for stays in both (same applies for MR members) but RC properties have their own redemption/tier chart.
You can switch from one program to the other at any time, which is what I think happened to existing MR members who applied for the RC card. You will use the same login for both programs.
I'm not a member of either program so I'm not an expert but I've been looking it and considering getting the MC/RC card later on.
dcpilgrim
Jul 14, 12, 8:15 am
Do you get 5 points per $ on Marriott spend?
austin_modern
Jul 14, 12, 9:19 am
Do you get 5 points per $ on Marriott spend?
no - only ritz-carlton.
austin_modern
Jul 14, 12, 9:21 am
Ritz Carlton is owned by Marriott and it's one of their luxury property brands along with Bulgari and JW Marriott. The RC and Marriott Rewards programs are technically 2 separate programs and you can only be a member of one of them. Moreover, there's no need to be a member of both because they have the same earning and redemption capabilities. That is, RC members can earn points for both RC and Marriott stays and redeem points for stays in both (same applies for MR members) but RC properties have their own redemption/tier chart.
You can switch from one program to the other at any time, which is what I think happened to existing MR members who applied for the RC card. You will use the same login for both programs.
I'm not a member of either program so I'm not an expert but I've been looking it and considering getting the MC/RC card later on.
I understand that, I guess Im wondering if one has a marriott account with points and applies for this card - will they switch it to a R.C. account and convert the points to RC? Or leave one with a selection of two different points - RC and marriott.
I understand they can be used somewhat interchangeably, but will it all pool together where you can use marriott points to fill gaps in the +70k RC points.
Edit: Marriott account just turned Gold from my approved application 7/12.
ngls
Jul 14, 12, 10:45 am
Hi just wonder if anyone may help answer my questions? Still in the dark don't know how to verify whether I will received this card without yearly fee, thanks
I applied like two weeks ago and I have already received and used my card (it came activated by UPS). I got this fees information flyer in the package that also said first year fee waived. However, I confirmed the waived annual fee by calling the number on the back. At first the CSR was like, no we don't waive the annual fee on RC cards but then I asked her to look in my account details and she confirmed it.
Long Islander
Jul 14, 12, 5:53 pm
so one would have both ritz carlton points and marriott points under the marriott account? (since you're only allowed to have one.)
If you already have a Marriott Rewards membership, your MR membership turns into a RC Rewards membership, but nothing really changes. You still earn points at Marriotts and RC's and can use points at either chain, as well as all the others in the Marriott family.
cjpat44
Jul 16, 12, 7:56 am
Some data points. Before applying I had 5 chase personal cards (including marriott) and 1 chase business. Last chase card was opened around 60 days ago. I applied last week and got "application under review" page. On thursday, card was showing up on chase page and they cancelled my marriott card and moved that credit over to the ritz-carlton card. Card was overnighted and delivered Friday. This week, I got email saying that I would receive 70,000 points upon first purchase.
Update: 70K points posted today!
heta
Jul 16, 12, 9:42 am
Update: 70K points posted today!
That's great news. I got approved for this card today. My Marriott card (which I received 70k points few months ago) was not canceled to get this RC card approved. Will report back whether I get 70k on this card or not.
NttDocomo
Jul 16, 12, 3:55 pm
I posted questions earlier about this and I have finally received the card with the terms saying the yearly fee is waived. Now need to verify whether the 70k will be deposited. I made a transaction, if I pay it right away now without waiting the statement, will the points be deposited into my account sooner?
Also I haven't received any lounge or club pass, has anyone got it and how long to wait (I assume it will be mailed separately).
Thanks again for answering all of my questions, enjoy your card! :)
dayone
Jul 16, 12, 6:52 pm
has anyone got it and how long to wait (I assume it will be mailed separately).
Reading this thread can be very informative.
austin_modern
Jul 16, 12, 7:00 pm
Reading this thread can be very informative.
... the highest value being this post.
mnscout
Jul 17, 12, 1:08 am
... the highest value being this post.
No, this one. And by "this" I mean mine.:D
austin_modern
Jul 17, 12, 8:27 am
No, this one. And by "this" I mean mine.:D
Mine was useless as well. ;)
On this note, they're still approving these cards. I applied for two chase cards last week - just showed up in my chase.com profile - assuming its inflight.
RewardTraveler
Jul 17, 12, 10:48 am
Another data point...
As a current Marriott Premier cardholder, I applied 8 days ago and was not instantly approved. After calling the reconsideration line they were happy to approve me (split credit line w/ Marriott). I received the packet with the card yesterday and the materials indicated the annual fee was waived (as was noted on the application when I applied). I called to activate the card today and asked to confirm the 70k after 1st purchase, which they did.
dcpilgrim
Jul 17, 12, 12:00 pm
Another data point...
As a current Marriott Premier cardholder, I applied 8 days ago and was not instantly approved. After calling the reconsideration line they were happy to approve me (split credit line w/ Marriott). I received the packet with the card yesterday and the materials indicated the annual fee was waived (as was noted on the application when I applied). I called to activate the card today and asked to confirm the 70k after 1st purchase, which they did.
Thanks for the data point. Please update if the points post. I am looking at a Marriott trip reward and this offer would bridge that gap if it is still valid on my next round.
austin_modern
Jul 17, 12, 6:10 pm
Just got mine in the mail today - about 6 days after applying. Packaging was pretty nuts. Nice card - although kinda mangled from whatever machine they use to put it in the packaging - not that I car.
Terms specified 0 cost first year. Called about the bonus points - they said 50k; I wasn't going to argue since it was effectively free. Will see if it shows up in a month.
nasmaster007
Jul 17, 12, 8:10 pm
Applied today, got a phone call from DE (302 area code) about 5 hours later to move around some Chase credit, approved today.
weeeeeeee
Jul 18, 12, 1:52 pm
For the $100 hotel credit for a 2-night stay (or more), does it have to be a revenue stay? (i'm assuming so, but couldn't find the fine print) Or points can be redeemed for a 2 day stay, and get the $100 hotel credit?
sinn1921
Jul 18, 12, 5:06 pm
What is reconsideration line that I have heard discussed on here?
dayone
Jul 18, 12, 5:25 pm
For the $100 hotel credit for a 2-night stay (or more), does it have to be a revenue stay? (i'm assuming so, but couldn't find the fine print) Or points can be redeemed for a 2 day stay, and get the $100 hotel credit?
Paid stay at rack rate.
heta
Jul 18, 12, 5:38 pm
Has anyone added authorized users to this card? What benefits does an authorized user get and the cost of each additional cards?
sinn1921
Jul 18, 12, 6:01 pm
reconsideration line, can you explain more about it?
cwilson830
Jul 18, 12, 6:50 pm
reconsideration line, can you explain more about it?
You call it to get reconsidered. Search :D
echip
Jul 19, 12, 1:34 am
reconsideration line, can you explain more about it?
If you were denied for the card.
Call Chase at 888-245-0625. Ask them to reconsider, and tell them why you want this card. Most importantly, be polite. Lots of people got approved this way.
buxfactor
Jul 19, 12, 9:27 am
Applied last night, got a call this morning from Chase. Had to move some credit around (had just opened up a $20K BA chase card last month), but was told I would be subject to further verification after she moved $10K to open up the Ritz card. Not sure what that means, but hope I get the card!
scottinaz
Jul 19, 12, 9:33 am
I applied for this card on Monday and have not heard anything, no call, no email. Should I be concerned or is this normal for this card?
tomy77
Jul 19, 12, 10:10 am
Paid stay at rack rate.
You mean Best Available Rate? I thought rack rate is like (crazy high) full price?
austin_modern
Jul 19, 12, 11:29 am
I applied for this card on Monday and have not heard anything, no call, no email. Should I be concerned or is this normal for this card?
why don't you just call their 1800 number. They don't call or email you... they either give you a "walk of shame" letter or a snazzy UPS package.
dayone
Jul 19, 12, 1:37 pm
You mean Best Available Rate? I thought rack rate is like (crazy high) full price?
Yes, that's what I meant. I was thinking "published non-corporate" in my head.
sinn1921
Jul 19, 12, 10:54 pm
Thank you for your information. They called this morning and said I was approved. If in the future I find something else that chase has your info will be helpful.
mtbmtb01
Jul 20, 12, 6:43 am
with 40k per night for closest hotel near me (no la) and no weekends available, guess i'll pass
austin_modern
Jul 20, 12, 7:45 am
with 40k per night for closest hotel near me (no la) and no weekends available, guess i'll pass
you can use the nights at marriotts, which are everywhere.
trey
Jul 20, 12, 9:43 am
the 70k points were credited in my marriott account today and i had previously gotten 70k also with the marriott chase card
crimson12
Jul 20, 12, 10:41 am
So I am:
1. Not a RC Residences owner; and
2. Never had any sort of Marriott card.
The consensus seems to be that I could get this card and first year waived, with at least 50k points, and maybe even 70k. Does that seem right?
Thinking about doing another mini app o rama today or sometime soon.
holocker
Jul 21, 12, 7:08 pm
How long did it take to get the 70,000 Marriott Rewards Points posted
dayone
Jul 21, 12, 7:56 pm
Two days after the statement closing date.
ngls
Jul 21, 12, 8:53 pm
So I am:
1. Not a RC Residences owner; and
2. Never had any sort of Marriott card.
The consensus seems to be that I could get this card and first year waived, with at least 50k points, and maybe even 70k. Does that seem right?
Thinking about doing another mini app o rama today or sometime soon.
I'm in the same situation. I applied a couple of weeks ago and was approved. I confirmed the bonus with the CSR and now I'm waiting for the statement to close.
Good luck!
Churnman
Jul 23, 12, 8:10 pm
I consider this a good offer. wife and I just applied for one each. Got the normal "we will send you a letter about your application..." type of response. Don't worry that doesn't mean rejected. Called in about an hour and spoke with a credit analyst and was approved while I waited since they could see the app and had me on the phone. I did move some avail credit from a card I don't use, but it was a choice.
They repeated the offer that I will receive 70,000 points after first purchase. In the past I have had a Marriott Visa, but don't right now. It's been a while and I've been getting a lot of emails from Marriott with new card offers, but this one is the best. At some locations this is worth well over $650 just for one night.
I take advantage of these type offers when they come along. In fact, just got back from another 2 weeks free (Air & hotel) vacation in South Pacific all from credit card point accumulation. Every year we travel free. Keep your credit great and the opportunities seem endless. takes some work and points spreadsheets, but when you take a $12,000 vacation for free the 'work' is worth it.
mtbmtb01
Jul 23, 12, 8:59 pm
the 70k points were credited in my marriott account today and i had previously gotten 70k also with the marriott chase card
so how did you go about it. i have the marriott chase card that i got 70k with and will probably have to cancel it to get this one. won't that throw up a red flag? my marriott card comes up for renewal in sept so i was going to cancel it no matter what.
also if i do get it, do i just apply with my marriott rewards number so these new points will go in the same account?
thanks.
ps looks like i'll need to pull the trigger on this on soon as it ends 7/25
holocker
Jul 24, 12, 12:40 am
Called today to get my first airline reimbursements. I had some on board purchases and and a baggage fee from Delta for a few flights over the past couple weeks. Total was $51.50, with individual charges of $2.00-$25. Purchases have already been credited to my account. I did ask exactly what kind of fees are covered and was told anything you buy on the plane. I asked about change fees and was told no. However, when the CSR was looking at the charges on my account he made a comment about the charges being under $100, so it is possible that any airline charges under $100 may be reimbursed. If I have money left towards the end of the year I may try buying a club pass and see if it is reimbursed.
BonusLover
Jul 24, 12, 12:59 am
Called today to get my first airline reimbursements. I had some on board purchases and and a baggage fee from Delta for a few flights over the past couple weeks. Total was $51.50, with individual charges of $2.00-$25. Purchases have already been credited to my account. I did ask exactly what kind of fees are covered and was told anything you buy on the plane. I asked about change fees and was told no. However, when the CSR was looking at the charges on my account he made a comment about the charges being under $100, so it is possible that any airline charges under $100 may be reimbursed. If I have money left towards the end of the year I may try buying a club pass and see if it is reimbursed.
Usually that (less than $100) is the criterion they use.
trey
Jul 24, 12, 6:51 am
I didnt do anything other than apply for the card and meet the spending and then about 2-3 weeks after i met the spending the points were in my marriott account..
heta
Jul 24, 12, 8:40 am
Called today to get my first airline reimbursements. I had some on board purchases and and a baggage fee from Delta for a few flights over the past couple weeks. Total was $51.50, with individual charges of $2.00-$25. Purchases have already been credited to my account. I did ask exactly what kind of fees are covered and was told anything you buy on the plane. I asked about change fees and was told no. However, when the CSR was looking at the charges on my account he made a comment about the charges being under $100, so it is possible that any airline charges under $100 may be reimbursed. If I have money left towards the end of the year I may try buying a club pass and see if it is reimbursed.
I had BA award tickets tax and phone booking fees ($70 total) reimbursed so I don't think they are looking at what kind of fee it is as long as it is under $100.
crimson12
Jul 24, 12, 4:51 pm
ps looks like i'll need to pull the trigger on this on soon as it ends 7/25
Yikes! Where did you see the 7/25 deadline? I hear some rumors of higher offers http://boardingarea.com/blogs/frequentmiler/2012/07/17/exciting-credit-card-rumors/ so I was hoping to hold out on my next round of apps until something big came out... but I would really hate to miss out on this offer.
ngls
Jul 24, 12, 6:13 pm
Have you guys tried to get reimbursed for GC purchases (under $100 or so)? Did it work out or they are coded as GC purchase and they are not eligible? Which airlines have worked for you?
Thanks
downright
Jul 25, 12, 6:05 am
my first statement closed a couple days ago....got my 70k points and no fee has posted.
mtbmtb01
Jul 25, 12, 11:20 am
Yikes! Where did you see the 7/25 deadline? I hear some rumors of higher offers http://boardingarea.com/blogs/frequentmiler/2012/07/17/exciting-credit-card-rumors/ so I was hoping to hold out on my next round of apps until something big came out... but I would really hate to miss out on this offer.
7/25 deadline shows up on the ap link
cascade
Jul 25, 12, 2:51 pm
I signed up about six months ago when the bonus was 50k points. Any chance if I call that they will match the difference?
crimson12
Jul 25, 12, 8:40 pm
Thanks for the heads up about the 7/25 deadline. Applied earlier today -- will let you know how it goes.
gv111
Jul 25, 12, 8:48 pm
7/25 deadline shows up on the ap linkThanks for the heads up. Applied in evening and called a credit analyst. I was recommended for approval. So hopefully I can get the card, the 70 K points etc.
mtbmtb01
Jul 25, 12, 8:56 pm
I signed up about six months ago when the bonus was 50k points. Any chance if I call that they will match the difference?
never hurts to call, but usually chase's limit is 90 days to match better offers.
crimson12
Jul 26, 12, 7:57 am
Applied last night and by this morning, barely 12 hours later, got a call from Chase asking me to move some credit line over to the new card and reduce the line on one of my several United cards (!). I did, and approved. The woman who called didn't have info about the bonus.
SuperDudley
Jul 26, 12, 9:15 am
I also applied last night. Kind of surprised that I wasn't automatically approved, as I have been with most credit cards. I'm still waiting to hear from them. I don't carry any type of balances on my credit cards, just monthly spending which is paid off at the end of every month. I am wondering if I'm going to get approved.
pat_pat_tong
Jul 26, 12, 9:33 am
Also applied late last night (2am). I didn't get auto approved, but my last application with Chase is around 60 days ago. I may wait a bit before calling the reconsideration line.
RewardTraveler
Jul 26, 12, 10:35 am
I also applied last night. Kind of surprised that I wasn't automatically approved
When I called in to get mine approved the Chase rep told me they are required to personally review every application before it can be approved. Now is that exactly true? Probably not, but I think it is fair to generalize that Chase manually reviews many more of the RC cards than other offerings.
SuperDudley
Jul 26, 12, 11:19 am
When I called in to get mine approved the Chase rep told me they are required to personally review every application before it can be approved. Now is that exactly true? Probably not, but I think it is fair to generalize that Chase manually reviews many more of the RC cards than other offerings.
Ah, thanks. I was kind of surprised, especially considering the number of solicitations for this credit card I had previously received in the mail. Still waiting for approval.
dayone
Jul 26, 12, 12:11 pm
When I called in to get mine approved the Chase rep told me they are required to personally review every application before it can be approved. Now is that exactly true? Probably not, but I think it is fair to generalize that Chase manually reviews many more of the RC cards than other offerings.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chase does review every RC app. I have not seen any posts indicating instant approval.
rbarr24
Jul 27, 12, 6:49 am
Chase is indeed reviewing every app for the RC card. The basic premise is that unlike other products which may require a good credit score, they are using this product to hone in on a higher net worth client segment. As a result, they acknowledge that a credit analyst review is a bit more in line than some of the automated credit decision systems used to determine applicability.
dante60093
Jul 27, 12, 9:03 am
How long did it take to get the 70,000 Marriott Rewards Points posted
Another data point. RC points posted two days after statement closing date.
Happy
Jul 27, 12, 9:06 am
Chase is indeed reviewing every app for the RC card. The basic premise is that unlike other products which may require a good credit score, they are using this product to hone in on a higher net worth client segment. As a result, they acknowledge that a credit analyst review is a bit more in line than some of the automated credit decision systems used to determine applicability.
They also realize that limiting the card 1st year fee waived feature to the RC Residence Owners is a stupid idea because that greatly limited the pool of potential applicants. Therefore they changed their stance on this initial requirement as the applications coming in - it is safe to say, the non-owner applicants far outnumber the owner applicants and that crucial data point forces Chase to change its approach.
leonard016
Jul 27, 12, 10:26 am
While the landing page is still on, the application page is dead now.
kiyaj
Jul 27, 12, 2:00 pm
I applied for this card on 7/25 late evening and was approved the next morning around 9AM after Chase called me confirming some of my info. I already have 6 cards with Chase so they moved around one of credit lines. They are manually reviewing each application so don't expect to see an instant approval.
mnscout
Jul 27, 12, 4:36 pm
While the landing page is still on, the application page is dead now.
Yep, looks like the fiesta is over. Congrats to those braves souls who haven't hesitated.
rbarr24
Jul 27, 12, 7:44 pm
Card came today via UPS. Wrapped like a birthday gift! My fifth Chase card and each customer experience has been excellent.
Confirmed no fee first year and 70k after first use. If a cardholder stays in a Ritz, my calculations have you earning 17.5 points for every dollar spent (10 for rewards/5 for card/2.5 for Gold bonus on rewards). I have a 5 night stay coming up next week that will earn me 30k for the 4 night promotion + 17.5 for every dollar. Add the 70k for signup and I'm on my way to earning a quick trip to the Caymans this spring (in the club level of course)
Really happy I am in on this product.
holocker
Jul 28, 12, 5:06 pm
Just had my 70,000 mile bonus credited to my account. My first statement just closed. I do currently have a Marriott Chase Business Visa that I have had for many years. Also completed my first airline trip and had some food and baggage fees credited. Unfortunately did not have my lounge card before my trip so was not able to check that out.
crimson12
Jul 29, 12, 6:33 pm
My wife applied for this card, and when Chase called, she wasn't around and didn't answer her phone. They haven't called back. Is there a reconsideration type number she should call that's unique to the RC Card? She can call the general Chase number but I was wondering if there's something specific for this.
dayone
Jul 29, 12, 9:44 pm
Is there a reconsideration type number she should call that's unique to the RC Card? She can call the general Chase number but I was wondering if there's something specific for this.
You read the last few pages of this thread.
buxfactor
Jul 29, 12, 11:49 pm
How long has it taken most of the members here to receive the Lounge Club Select membership card after receiving their credit card? Thanks!
dayone
Jul 30, 12, 12:55 am
How long has it taken most of the members here to receive the Lounge Club Select membership card after receiving their credit card? Thanks!
Search is your friend.
RewardTraveler
Jul 31, 12, 2:01 pm
Thanks for the data point. Please update if the points post. I am looking at a Marriott trip reward and this offer would bridge that gap if it is still valid on my next round.
70k points are now in my account...
NttDocomo
Jul 31, 12, 5:45 pm
70k points are now in my account...
Hi RewardTraveler, just wonder if you have already received the Marriott Visa bonus before applying for this? Also did you receive these points only after your first statement (and how long after)?
I have also applied for this card and now waiting for the first statement. However, I have already made purchase and paid online, yet no points show up on my Ritz account, wondering if it's due to Marriott Visa. Thanks.
Also wonder if you have received the Ritz Club Lounge Pass or the Ritz Gold Membership card? How long does it take? Thanks very much for all the help. Have a great day
holocker
Jul 31, 12, 7:33 pm
Points will show up in your marriott account after the first statement closes. This includes both the bonus points and your points from the first months purchases. It took about 2 weeks to get my lounge club card and missed out using it on my first trip. Had no problem getting baggage fees and onboard food purchases credited for my first flights.
RewardTraveler
Aug 1, 12, 7:29 am
Hi RewardTraveler, just wonder if you have already received the Marriott Visa bonus before applying for this? Also did you receive these points only after your first statement (and how long after)?
I have also applied for this card and now waiting for the first statement. However, I have already made purchase and paid online, yet no points show up on my Ritz account, wondering if it's due to Marriott Visa. Thanks.
Also wonder if you have received the Ritz Club Lounge Pass or the Ritz Gold Membership card? How long does it take? Thanks very much for all the help. Have a great day
Yeah, I received points from the Marriott Visa earlier this year. The points posted within days of my first statement, I wouldn't expect them before it closes, but no need to worry.
My Lounge Club card arrived 8 days after my welcome packet and my Gold card (Marriott in my case) arrived last week. My status on the Marriott website changed to Gold within a day or two of approval. If that has happened, I wouldn't worry too much about receiving the actual card.
Hope this helps...
dcpilgrim
Aug 1, 12, 9:03 am
70k points are now in my account...
Thanks for the follow up. On my list for late 2012/2013 for sure.
EWRHKG
Aug 5, 12, 1:35 pm
Thanks for the follow up. On my list for late 2012/2013 for sure.
They by that time you will enjoy the $395 annual fee too.
eethan
Aug 5, 12, 7:33 pm
I'll eventually sign up for this card. However, seeing RC get into the points game devalues the RC brand name for me. Also, I'll need to avoid staying at the RC too much, or else I won't like the Hyatt as much as I do now.:D
saacman5033
Aug 5, 12, 7:55 pm
Just wanted to follow-up. Points posted Friday after statement closed Wed. Ironically, I also got the email notice Wednesday for my anniversary free night from the Marriott card.
2useless
Aug 6, 12, 2:31 am
I have heard of people getting AA giftcards (4 in $50 increments) and then submitting the costs towards the $200 airline incidentals. I was wondering if anyone has used these towards Southwest giftcards. AA fares are absurd from where I live (MSP shoutout!) while SW fares are very reasonably priced. Thanks. :D
crimson12
Aug 6, 12, 9:51 am
I'll eventually sign up for this card. However, seeing RC get into the points game devalues the RC brand name for me. Also, I'll need to avoid staying at the RC too much, or else I won't like the Hyatt as much as I do now.:D
LOL. I actually feel sort of the same way. In that sense the card is a good investment for RC because it will spur me to shift at least some of my hotel spend away from Hyatt and toward RC.
Bored_Russian
Aug 6, 12, 9:56 am
I have heard of people getting AA giftcards (4 in $50 increments) and then submitting the costs towards the $200 airline incidentals. I was wondering if anyone has used these towards Southwest giftcards. AA fares are absurd from where I live (MSP shoutout!) while SW fares are very reasonably priced. Thanks. :D
Can you explain this incidentals to me? Does it mean $200 towards any airline purchase with card or some sort of "delay that resulted in overnight stay and I had to pay" thing?
cruisr
Aug 6, 12, 10:07 am
Can you explain this incidentals to me? Does it mean $200 towards any airline purchase with card or some sort of "delay that resulted in overnight stay and I had to pay" thing?
I'm curious as to that also. With Amex PLatinum they actually credited the taxes I paid on award tickets towards the $200. annual reimbursement.
I have a bunch of taxes from award tickets that I put on the RC card. I think ill call them later and see what they say and will post.
2useless
Aug 6, 12, 2:32 pm
Can you explain this incidentals to me? Does it mean $200 towards any airline purchase with card or some sort of "delay that resulted in overnight stay and I had to pay" thing?
I don't think it is just expenses due to 'delays'. The site says:
"$200 Annual Airline Incidentals Credit:
To request a statement credit to apply to qualifying airline incidental net purchase(s) made with your Ritz-Carlton Rewards Credit Card, you must contact J.P.Morgan Priority Services at the number on the back of your Ritz-Carlton Rewards Credit Card within 4 billing cycles of the purchase date. This offer applies only to non-ticket purchases made with merchants that classify their merchant location for Visa in the airline category. We do not determine whether merchants correctly identify and bill transactions as being made in a particular category. However, we do reserve the right to determine which purchases qualify for statement credits."
Bored_Russian
Aug 6, 12, 8:34 pm
So I guess things like upgrades and in-flight purchases qualify for this?
Anyone can confirm gift cards purchases?