Star Alliance - Does anyone know when Eva Air becomes an active Star Alliance member? (18 Jun 13)

I saw a press release dated 29 Mar 2012, announcing that Eva Air had been accepted in the Star Alliance. As of today however they are still not listed on the Star Alliance site. Does anyone know when they will be an active member of the Alliance? I am eager to get United Mileage Plus credit for flights I have coming up. Will there be any type of retroactive credit allowed?

I saw a press release dated 29 Mar 2012, announcing that Eva Air had been accepted in the Star Alliance. As of today however they are still not listed on the Star Alliance site. Does anyone know when they will be an active member of the Alliance? I am eager to get United Mileage Plus credit for flights I have coming up. Will there be any type of retroactive credit allowed?

According to posts at the end of this thread ...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance/1187314-eva-application.html

Sometime in mid-2013.

I would say the clue is in the press release

http://www.staralliance.com/en/press/eva-air-prp/

which contains this:

Since its founding nearly 15 years ago, Star Alliance has progressively built its presence in Asia/Pacific and will have eight member carriers based in this region by mid-2013.

To me that suggests that they are expecting BR to have completed their accession by then.

Over on Sky Team, I was awaiting for China Eastern (MU) to join so I could earn SkyPesos on a attractive fare on MU and earn on DL.

It was about 5 days before MU's joining ST and it looked like fares were going up. I booked my flight, entered my DL Skymiles account number where MU wanted my Eastern Miles account number.

After MU had joined, I called up CSR at MU and gave them my DL Skymiles number (which they already had, but now I was telling them it was a DL FF number, not a MU FF number).

Make a long story short, it worked out.

The only wrinkle was I only got 50% credit, as the fare class rules (posted after I bought my ticket) only provided for 50%, buy it was nice to be able to fly a new airlines and still earn something.

I'm anxious to see this go through. We have family in Taiwan and Eva is usually pretty competitive LAX - TPE.

Asian programs are stinky in giving out miles. It is a known secret.

The trick is how they will align with their new partners.

Just come across this

http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Marketing/CustComm/Promotions/Pages/AirlinePartnerDetails.aspx?ItemId=71

Just come across this

http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Marketing/CustComm/Promotions/Pages/AirlinePartnerDetails.aspx?ItemId=71

So?

BR has been a M+ partner for a while (since 3/3).

Beside - the award chart mentions nothing about PQM/PQS.

Beside - the award chart mentions nothing about PQM/PQS.

I don't expect to see that until BR formally joins this summer.

BR staff in Europe told me around June 15th. They seem to be updating all their reservations systems and fares this month.

BR staff in Europe told me around June 15th. They seem to be updating all their reservations systems and fares this month.

I have a potential trip to Singapore scheduled for September, and the Premium Economy fares out of YYZ appear quite attractive on Eva. Full J is simply not within the budget, and at 6'4" I've always limited myself to E+ on UA or other extended legroom options.

Has anyone flown Premium Economy with Eva? Is it worth it? Good service?

If BR plans to join within three months, one would think an official announcement should come up any day.

In addition to the comment by their president in their latest newsletter. Which is still somewhat vague.

The date I have been hearing is 6/18.

Here is the link to the announcement in the magazine: http://evaair.themecool.com/eBook_Mall/e-books/enVoyage/032013/index.html#/7/zoomed

I think at this point, it will happen in June for sure. Otherwise, this would be a huge loss of face.

The date I have been hearing is 6/18.

Here is the link to the announcement in the magazine: http://evaair.themecool.com/eBook_Mall/e-books/enVoyage/032013/index.html#/7/zoomed

I think at this point, it will happen in June for sure. Otherwise, this would be a huge loss of face.

The next question is then what would be the EQM/RDM earning structure when flying BR. I am hoping the discounted Y tix would earn at least 70%. Otherwise, it would be difficult to choose BR over other *A Asian carriers (except for SQ, of course).

LAX

Even though US is leaving the Star Alliance, do we think there's a chance of earning miles for flying EVA before US official exits stage left?

Perhaps between June when they join, and before the end of the 3Q when US/AA finalize their merger?

Even though US is leaving the Star Alliance, do we think there's a chance of earning miles for flying EVA before US official exits stage left?

Perhaps between June when they join, and before the end of the 3Q when US/AA finalize their merger?

I think you are assuming that US will exit Star immediately. I assume that it will take a few months. No hard information, just my personal speculation.

I think you are assuming that US will exit Star immediately. I assume that it will take a few months. No hard information, just my personal speculation.

Correct, I am assuming an immediate exit. Anyone want to start a pool on an actual exit date? :D

Correct, I am assuming an immediate exit. Anyone want to start a pool on an actual exit date? :D

I will rather start a pool for the next giant Mega Million or Power Ball jackpot :D

Correct, I am assuming an immediate exit. Anyone want to start a pool on an actual exit date? :D

You may be right. I got the feeling that US was not committed to *A after the UA/CO merger was announced.

Even though US is leaving the Star Alliance, do we think there's a chance of earning miles for flying EVA before US official exits stage left?

Perhaps between June when they join, and before the end of the 3Q when US/AA finalize their merger?

The question is if they would still be bothered to sign the agreement with BR knowing they will leave the alliance in a few months.

Similar thing happened with FM when they knew they would leave the alliance shortly but they still went ahead and included JJ in their FFP for a very short period of time.

I wonder how the sequence of events would be. It seems it is to the new AA's benefit for US to move over to OneWorld as soon as it can.

However, it is probably a waste of money and will take too long for US to modify its systems for OneWorld then merge system with AA (assuming they are leaving SHARES for SABRE).

So, it seems the right sequence would be:

1 - some kind of reciprical arrangement (at least elite recognition / status cross-matching) between US and AA - assuming OneWorld and *A allow it
2 - leave *A and merge the systems on the same day (if moving to SABRE)

The DL/NW and UA/CO mergers were both same-alliance merge. This one is going to be interesting.

So, this maybe 1+ year after the corporate merger.

Frankly, I think *A will be foolish to kick US out if US does not choose to leave early. There is no way UA can plug all the holes in the network left behind by US.

The date I have been hearing is 6/18.

Here is the link to the announcement in the magazine: http://evaair.themecool.com/eBook_Mall/e-books/enVoyage/032013/index.html#/7/zoomed

I think at this point, it will happen in June for sure. Otherwise, this would be a huge loss of face.

I am a OW person and probably won't be back. Yes, it is confirmed to be 18JUN. BR will also have booking class migration 20-21APR. Below is the news update BR sends to all TAs in Taiwan, through Abacus.


EVAAIR長榮假期快訊

【長榮航空暨立榮航空國際線票價艙等轉換作業通知】
長榮航空將於2013年6月18日正式加入星空聯盟(Star Alliance)，為此，長榮航空及立榮航空(國際線)將於2013年4月20及21日進行票價艙等轉換 作業。 新的票價艙等預計將於2013年4月22日(開票及出發日期)起正式啟用，轉換後部分的票價及對應的票價規 則亦隨之改變，票價艙等轉換前後對照表如下：
艙等 旅客 現行票價艙等 轉換後之票價艙等
皇璽桂冠艙 桂冠艙 商務艙 一般 C / J / Z C / J / D
長榮貴賓聯誼會會員 N (升等)
D (免費機票) Z (升等)
I (免費機票)
菁英艙 長榮客艙 一般 Y / M / Q / L / V / R K / L / T
長榮貴賓聯誼會會員 O (升等)
W (免費機票) U (升等)
E (免費機票)
經濟艙 一般 K / T / B / X / U / H Y / B / M / H / Q / V
長榮貴賓聯誼會會員 I (免費機票) X (免費機票)
票價艙等轉換將於台灣時間2013年4月20日(六) 13:00開始進行，預計於台灣時間2013年4月22日(一) 00:00轉換完成。於系統停機期間，本公司下列服務內容有所異動：
1. 長榮航空全球資訊網(www.evaair.com)
A.全球資訊網的網頁瀏覽及班機實際到離功能維持正常運作。
B.網路選位/選餐/購票、訂位查詢、班機時刻表及長榮貴賓聯誼會線上會員專區等功能暫停服務。
C.網路報到:出發日自4月21日12:00起至4月23日23:59期間的航班不提供網路報到及手機報到 服務。
2. 旅行同業服務資訊網 (www.evaagent.com) 暫停服務
3. 長榮假期資訊管理系統 (www.evasion.aero/b2b) 暫停服務
4. 長榮航空暨立榮航空國際線訂位票務作業暫停服務
5. 行動商務Mobile App及行動網(m.evaair.com)：手機報到/選位、訂位查詢、班機時刻表、長榮貴賓聯誼會等功能皆暫停服務
另外，如您服務的旅客將於系統轉換期間 (4月20日13:00 ~ 4月21日23:59)搭乘長榮航空與立榮航空(國際線)的航班，敬請配合下列事項 (所有時間皆為台灣當地時間):
1. 請於2013年4月19日下午17:00前，完成所有退票及機票更動手續。
2. 請於2013年4月17日下午17:00前，完成所有訂位紀錄「開票期限為2013年4月20日及21日」 之機票開立作業。
3. 請於2013年4月19日下午17:00前，完成並更新所有搭乘2013年4月20日與21日航班旅客之餐 飲、座位與特殊服務等需求。
4. 訂位時請註明詳細的旅客資訊（包括有效的電子郵件帳號，或含國碼的行動電話號碼），以便我們直接透過電子郵 件、簡訊與旅客聯絡。指令輸入格式請參考：
OSI BR CTCE HELLOKITTY//YAHOO.COM/EN or ZH
OSI BR CTCM 886918666888/EN or ZH
(CTCE為電子郵件帳號，CTCM為行動電話號碼，//表示”@ ”， EN表示收到英文格式內容，ZH則為繁體中文格式內容)
5. 請提供旅客一份紙本式機票行程相關資料，並請他們攜帶此紙本式機票行程相關資料與其它旅行相關文件，至機場 櫃檯辦理劃位報到。
6. 請盡早提醒旅客，劃位報到手續僅可於出發機場櫃檯辦理，機場櫃檯將於航班起飛前2小時開始服務 。
若有未盡事項，請逕洽全球各地長榮航空及立榮航空(國際航線)營業部門或全球訂位/票務中心，台灣區訂位中心電話為(02)2501-1999。
以上訊息可參考長榮假期官網：www.evasion.aero/b2b

I am a OW person and probably won't be back. Yes, it is confirmed to be 18JUN. BR will also have booking class migration 20-21APR. Below is the news update BR sends to all TAs in Taiwan, through Abacus.

Thank you for the news, finally some confirmation

Question is now whether I book YYZ-TPE NOW, or wait after April 21
does it make a difference? I'm *A Gold

My hope was to redeem only 75000 Aeroplan for Y round-trip ticket with low YQ :D

Thank you for the news, finally some confirmation

Question is now whether I book YYZ-TPE NOW, or wait after April 21
does it make a difference? I'm *A Gold

My hope was to redeem only 75000 Aeroplan for Y round-trip ticket with low YQ :D

If it is paid fare, I don't think it makes a difference. The most you might have to do is to call EVA to remove your *A Gold number and add it back in after 6/18 for it to recognize you are *A Gold.

I don't think *A benefits kick in until 6/18 so you are out of luck (and can only credit to UA as non-PQM) if you fly before then.

I am a OW person and probably won't be back. Yes, it is confirmed to be 18JUN. BR will also have booking class migration 20-21APR. Below is the news update BR sends to all TAs in Taiwan, through Abacus.

Thanks.

Here is a better formatted version: http://www.abacus.com.tw/abacus_2004/news/airlineDetail_for_new_abacus.jsp?contentnbr=9417&headlinenbr=9328 where it is easier to look at how the classes will change.

Note that Y currently books into Elite but later it is only to Economy. So, I wonder if any of the Elite classes will be bookable with other airlines.

I'm a Krisflyer (partner of Star Alliance) member and have just bought my first EVA ticket for Jul 16 departure.

Considering Eva will join Star Alliance mid June, does anyone know if at that time I'll be able to:
1) add these miles to my Krisflyer account, maybe retroactively
2) use my existing miles to upgrade this EVA flight?

Thanks for help!

Welcome to FT.

1) add these miles to my Krisflyer account, maybe retroactively

Unless you bought a full fare, I won't expect a lot.

2) use my existing miles to upgrade this EVA flight?

*A Upgrade is YB only AFAIK.

Welcome to FT.



Unless you bought a full fare, I won't expect a lot.




Similar situation here. We bought discounted business for end of July. Presumably should yield the customary 100 to 125% of the miles?

If they do an LH P thing (now gone) we'll cancel and pay the fee.

Similar situation here. We bought discounted business for end of July. Presumably should yield the customary 100 to 125% of the miles?

If they do an LH P thing (now gone) we'll cancel and pay the fee.

Honestly I don't know.

But you are in business, which makes you in a better position.

Looks like the re-mapping is finished. Check the new booking classes for your reservation on EVA's website.

EVA should get its own forum soon, I hope.

So once EVA joins the alliance, this will mark the first time in probably quite a while, if ever, that there are no official pending members for the alliance (assuming nothing gets announced in the next two months)

So once EVA joins the alliance, this will mark the first time in probably quite a while, if ever, that there are no official pending members for the alliance (assuming nothing gets announced in the next two months)

Avianca Brazil will enter the alliance next year but I doubt it will be counted as a separate member.

Avianca Brazil will enter the alliance next year but I doubt it will be counted as a separate member.

Yes, I should have clarified, I was referring to full separate members, not affiliates.

Any way of booking EVA flights with *A miles before joining? Meaning flight dates after joining.

Any way of booking EVA flights with *A miles before joining? Meaning flight dates after joining.

Theoretically, you can do it already on UA (and probably CA, NH and OZ since they are already partners). Something seems to be messed up with the system so UA seems to be having problems since mid March (when EVA moved to Amadeus).

It is just about a month away, but seems not much news

At this point, not joining in June will be a huge loss of face as June was already announced in the in-flight magazine in March.

It is just about a month away, but seems not much news

What's there to report? A daily count-down?:D If there is any news between now and then, it would most likely be negative. Perhaps that's what you are looking for?

LAX

For me, I'm hoping to see news related to
- how *A elites are recognized
- how *A partner redemptions would work on EVA <-- this may be a long shot, but I sure hope to redeem Aeroplan on it at some point

For me, I'm hoping to see news related to
- how *A elites are recognized
- how *A partner redemptions would work on EVA <-- this may be a long shot, but I sure hope to redeem Aeroplan on it at some point

No news in TW/Eva air site, but Wiki shows joining star in June http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EVA_Air

Looking for news regarding partner airlines, and how they'll calculate fare classes and redemption.