Emirates Skywards - Upgrading DXB-FRA or FRA-DXB ??

Hi guys,

Planning to upgrade DXB-FRA or FRA-DXB from Y to J. Normally I would choose outbound when flying west simply because it will be a longer flight + the return legs are overnight flights so I just sleep the flight away rather than enjoy EK J class. However, the aircraft shown on DXB-FRA is a 777-200 while on the return leg it is a 777-300ER. I don't want to waste miles so have to be choosy.

Is 777-200 J on EK worth upgrading to or is it in the same league as A330 ?

Any help will be appreciated

regards

As a frequent traveler I would always choose the night leg to upgrade. I just hate to fly Y at night times.

I have to admit I do not understand which EK 777-xxx model has which business class seat installed, but the 777-xxx that flies the night flight FRA-DXB looks fine in biz-class (some slippery slope stretcher seat).

Avoid like the plague the A332 that serves the DXB-FRA 03.40 am flight. Horrible, an EK disgrace to use that plane on a long-haul flight!!! It is a run down plane with close to zero entertainment and horrible "recliner" seats in biz.

The very nice lounge ladies in FRA told me that they have lots of complaints about the plane, and it will be replaced with a 777 at the beginning of the winter schedule.

As a frequent traveler I would always choose the night leg to upgrade. I just hate to fly Y at night times.

Agree, GigoloArt, with the exception of the A332 where the biz seat just sucks!

As a frequent traveler I would always choose the night leg to upgrade. I just hate to fly Y at night times.
On the contrary, since I can sleep pretty well on Y seats, I always choose a day flight to upgrade. You pretty much miss the J/ F experience on a night flight.

On the contrary, since I can sleep pretty well on Y seats, I always choose a day flight to upgrade. You pretty much miss the J/ F experience on a night flight.

Or, the purpose of especially J is to get a good nightrest. Count yourself lucky if you can get a 'good' sleep in Y!

I have to admit I do not understand which EK 777-xxx model has which business class seat installed, but the 777-xxx that flies the night flight FRA-DXB looks fine in biz-class (some slippery slope stretcher seat).

Avoid like the plague the A332 that serves the DXB-FRA 03.40 am flight. Horrible, an EK disgrace to use that plane on a long-haul flight!!! It is a run down plane with close to zero entertainment and horrible "recliner" seats in biz.

The very nice lounge ladies in FRA told me that they have lots of complaints about the plane, and it will be replaced with a 777 at the beginning of the winter schedule.

RE Calflyer's comment: Why do so many German - DXB flights have on their night legs (where you ought to get a flatbed) older planes whereas on their day flights you get the flatbeds?

Obviously, choosing which frame flies to a certain destination is a conscious decision that EK ops need to make, so can anyone explain? Is this because they need the more modern frames to other destinations once it reaches DXB?

RE Calflyer's comment: Why do so many German - DXB flights have on their night legs (where you ought to get a flatbed) older planes whereas on their day flights you get the flatbeds?

Obviously, choosing which frame flies to a certain destination is a conscious decision that EK ops need to make, so can anyone explain? Is this because they need the more modern frames to other destinations once it reaches DXB?

This is old news. From June 1 all german night flights are operated with 777 aircraft with the flatbeds.

To answer the original questione:
777-200 aircrafts have the same flatbeds in J like the 777-300 aircrafts.

Or, the purpose of especially J is to get a good nightrest. Count yourself lucky if you can get a 'good' sleep in Y!
Well, one thing that I can say from experience of doing several ULH to JFK, SFO and IAH is that at the end of the flight in Y, J and F, at the end of the flight it doesn't seem to make much different whether I was in Y of F - you end up with that drowsy feeling anyway :p

This is old news. From June 1 all german night flights are operated with 777 aircraft with the flatbeds.


That's good news.


777-200 aircrafts have the same flatbeds in J like the 777-300 aircrafts.

Hence, you say that all 772 have flatbeds? I doubt. I believe 773 and 77L (as opposed to 77W) is the only flight config that has flatbeds..

This is old news. From June 1 all german night flights are operated with 777 aircraft with the flatbeds.


You mean all night flights Germany-DXB are operated by 777 with modern biz cabin? Maybe. But the problem is that DXB-FRA still is on this super-shabby A332.

You mean all night flights Germany-DXB are operated by 777 with modern biz cabin? Maybe. But the problem is that DXB-FRA still is on this super-shabby A332.

Correct, because I just saw this:

EK 44 0 FRA
10/06/12 11:00 DXB
10/06/12 19:15 332
Daily
85% / 11m F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H7 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7

So from what I make of it based on the comments here, J-class seating on 777-200 is not the same as 777-300ER. It is more like the 777-300 seating. So to make the most of it, I should upgrade to be on 777-300ER rather than 777-200, correct ?

I saw a video on youtube showing EK 777-300ER biz class. It had all those mechanical blinds etc. Do all 777-300ERs have the same biz class or should I expect the normal EK practice of surprising (read disappointing) you by bringing out their unrenovated/old/deeply-reclining product just when you decide to fly them ?

I saw a video on youtube showing EK 777-300ER biz class. It had all those mechanical blinds etc. Do all 777-300ERs have the same biz class or should I expect the normal EK practice of surprising (read disappointing) you by bringing out their unrenovated/old/deeply-reclining product just when you decide to fly them ?



Not all 77Ws have the flat beds, but most do

See here for more info: http://www.theeksource.com/flyingemirates.html

Wow - if all us EK ambassadors don't know which planes have what seats, what chance has an ordinary punter? :D

I thought both the 772 and 77L fleets now had the lie flats in J.

I still believe that not all 772 have lie flats in J. This is also as per link that was quoted.

There are three B777-200 in two class configuration that have the deeply reclining seats in J.

All six B777-200ER and ten B777-200LR have lie flats.

There are three B777-200 in two class configuration that have the deeply reclining seats in J.

All six B777-200ER and ten B777-200LR have lie flats.

Thanks. Shows what I know... I didn't even realise they had any non-ER/LR 777-200s!

Thanks for all the replies . . .

Let me quote what EK's 'Services by Fight' is saying

FOR EK-45 DXB - FRA on 19th June

QUOTE

You will be flying with Emirates on board a Boeing 777-200, with recently upgraded seating and the ice entertainment system.

Entertainment:
ice, with over 600 channels of on-demand entertainment.

Seating:
Flat bed luxury with integrated passenger seat control in First Class, deeply reclining comfort in Business Class and room to relax in Economy.

In-flight Communications:
Seatback SMS, email and satellite phone, as well as an in-seat power source for First and Business Class.

Dining:
Fresh, gourmet, locally-sourced dining options for all classes of travel.

UNQUOTE


FOR EK-48 FRA - DXB

QUOTE

You will be flying with Emirates on board a long-range, high capacity Boeing 777-300ER, one of our newest, most technologically advanced aircraft.
Entertainment:

ice Digital Widescreen, with over 1200 channels of on-demand entertainment.

Seating:
Luxurious private suites in First Class, lie-flat seats in Business Class, both with wireless integrated passenger seat control and a new generation of comfort in Economy.

In-flight Communications:
Seatback SMS, email and satellite phone, as well as an in-seat power source.
Dining:
Fresh, gourmet, locally-sourced dining options for all classes of travel.

UNQUOTE

I guess the verdict is clear then, EK 48 on 777-300ER it is then!!

Thanks all again

Thanks for all the replies . . .

Let me quote what EK's 'Services by Fight' is saying

FOR EK-45 DXB - FRA on 19th June

QUOTE
[I]
You will be flying with Emirates on board a Boeing 777-200, with recently upgraded seating and the ice entertainment system.

Seating:
Flat bed luxury with integrated passenger seat control in First Class, deeply reclining comfort in Business Class and room to relax in Economy.
Just goes to show you can't believe the website.

It's a 3 class flight and there are no 3 class B777-200 of any variant that have deeply reclining in J.