Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer - A380 old to new swap - seats on upper deck




rruaco
Jun 8, 12, 2:25 am
I had a pair of P seats booked on an old A380 with economy seats upstairs.

The config has just been changed and our old seat allocations still show.

What's the best course of action at this point? Try and get good seats downstairs assigned as soon as possible, or hold off and hope they are overbooked in Y and people with no seat allocations get put in C?

(The flight isn't until November if that makes any difference. The two of us are on two different PNRs with two different fare classes - one expensive, one cheap).


nivek123
Jun 8, 12, 3:33 am
Do you have status with SQ?
It is almost 0% chance that Y pax will be pushed to J for SQ.

Sam Bee
Jun 8, 12, 4:28 am
By P I presumed you mean P Class (a subclass of F).

But reading through, I believe you mean Economy (I have no idea what you mean by P in this case!). I know overnight SQ changed SQ 321/322 to hi-J configuration - so maybe you are on this?

You won't get upgraded (They have just added SQ 306 15 minutes later from LHR on a 77W - so they could put you in economy on this).

As you have a heads up, get online and book the best Y seat you can before the other 70 odd affected Y class passengers do. That's presuming i'm right about the above!


nivek123
Jun 8, 12, 7:17 am
I assume P = Preferred Seat

weero
Jun 8, 12, 8:36 am
I had a pair of P seats booked on an old A380 with economy seats upstairs.

The config has just been changed and our old seat allocations still show.

What's the best course of action at this point?..
If the fare allows for it: cancel the ticket and book on an airline which honours seat assignments.

The crippled A380 config is a might demonstration that SQ targets its coach section at clueless non-elites who put up with that kind of crap because they read somewhere that SQ is a decent airline.
I haven't bought an SQ ticket since they deployed the miscreant 380 on the ZRH route and I have not regretted my departure.

FN-GM
Jun 8, 12, 11:05 am
@Weero i really dont understand why you make it your personal aim to keep calling the none Y upstairs on the A380 crippled?

What would the point be in booking another aline just because you will have to sit downstairs. The downstairs seats are just standard Y seating found on the majority of the airlines.

If you want to sit upstairs book Business Class....

flyGreg
Jun 8, 12, 6:43 pm
If the fare allows for it: cancel the ticket and book on an airline which honours seat assignments.

The crippled A380 config is a might demonstration that SQ targets its coach section at clueless non-elites who put up with that kind of crap because they read somewhere that SQ is a decent airline.
I haven't bought an SQ ticket since they deployed the miscreant 380 on the ZRH route and I have not regretted my departure.

Hmmm SQ need to make money, there's demand for more Business seats, did you expect them to install the second Business cabin downstairs just so you could sit upstairs on your coach fare ?

Awesom Andy
Jun 8, 12, 6:49 pm
Not sure if there are any costs associated with changing preferred seats, but you might as well move yourself now. If they change the config again, you can always move back.

weero
Jun 8, 12, 10:37 pm
@Weero i really dont understand why you make it your personal aim to keep calling the none Y upstairs on the A380 crippled?
I paid for the Preferred Seats on the UD on numerous occasions. It makes traveling in coach aboard SQ quite bearable.

There is no equivalently cozy place downstairs.
What would the point be in booking another aline just because you will have to sit downstairs. The downstairs seats are just standard Y seating found on the majority of the airlines...
I might not have expressed myself clearly in that point: the A380s come now in two versions. There is a >0 chance that you book and pay for a P seat on the UD and then upon checking in, you find yourself in the lower deck middle.

This is what I mean with "not honoring seat assignments". SQ is notorious for its unpleasant swaps (even though the airline itself seems to be oblivious to it). Now these also affect the Y seating negatively.

Hence I feel entitled to call the new A380 configuration 'crippled'.

And of course my solution is not to pay SQ's delusional C fares but to book on other carriers.

weero
Jun 8, 12, 10:41 pm
Hmmm SQ need to make money, there's demand for more Business seats, did you expect them to install the second Business cabin downstairs just so you could sit upstairs on your coach fare ?
I don't have a coach fare. Not anymore at least.

And I am not an economist - neither do I care about purported demand in something nor do I believe it. But I expect an airline to honour seat assignments. I doubly expect so when I paid extra for it.

If that "demand" was so ubercool all 380s would look like the crippled version and like the on-demand-swap-and-boot-customers model they are running now.

I am not saying that SQ is a terrible airline but it doesn't cater for elites and those should hence carry their business elsewhere.

SMK77
Jun 8, 12, 11:27 pm
And of course my solution is not to pay SQ's delusional C fares but to book on other carriers.

You don't have to pay delusional fares to enjoy SQ in J and F... On average I do not spend more than what people pay in Y and still enjoy my free flow of DP...

Let's have lunch to tell you how you do that post BMI :-)

FN-GM
Jun 9, 12, 7:07 am
I paid for the Preferred Seats on the UD on numerous occasions. It makes traveling in coach aboard SQ quite bearable.

There is no equivalently cozy place downstairs.

I might not have expressed myself clearly in that point: the A380s come now in two versions. There is a >0 chance that you book and pay for a P seat on the UD and then upon checking in, you find yourself in the lower deck middle.

This is what I mean with "not honoring seat assignments". SQ is notorious for its unpleasant swaps (even though the airline itself seems to be oblivious to it). Now these also affect the Y seating negatively.

Hence I feel entitled to call the new A380 configuration 'crippled'.

And of course my solution is not to pay SQ's delusional C fares but to book on other carriers.


Lots of other airlines have multiple configuration on one type of aircraft, not just SQ

weero
Jun 9, 12, 12:09 pm
Lots of other airlines have multiple configuration on one type of aircraft, not just SQ
I agree.

Hence I would not call SQ a terrible airline, even though I am quite unhappy about the demise of 'my' A380.

weero
Jun 9, 12, 12:11 pm
..Let's have lunch to tell you how you do that post BMI :-)
Good idea.

Good ol'DC - VS only brings me to LHR after all.



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