simz
Jun 5, 12, 9:33 pm
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/800-mps-are-air-indias-new-maharajas-in-the-sky/957260/
India-based Airlines - And we wonder why AI is not profit making..!!!
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Keyser
Jun 6, 12, 7:20 am
we don't have to wonder....one cannot even begin to list the number of reasons why ai is not making a profit....
simz
Jun 6, 12, 7:38 am
Lol.. !!!! +1
I am just astounded.. are our MP's that dumb or lazy that need an assistant right from the moment they decide to fly till they are back in their own toilets..!!! wat a waste of public money..
I am just astounded.. are our MP's that dumb or lazy that need an assistant right from the moment they decide to fly till they are back in their own toilets..!!! wat a waste of public money..
oliver2002
Jun 6, 12, 8:15 am
The procedures described are pretty much the norm for CIP/VIP pax at most airlines except maybe the meet and greet by the station manager. That said GoI will probably be better off just chartering/buying a fleet of business jets for the politicians and mandarins AI flies around, a much cheaper proposition.
PVDtoDEL
Jun 6, 12, 8:15 am
In the grand scheme of things, these niceties have a very small cost. Compare the bill for fuel that AI has and the bill for this stuff and there is no comparison.
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Yaatri
Jun 6, 12, 8:59 am
In the grand scheme of things, these niceties have a very small cost. Compare the bill for fuel that AI has and the bill for this stuff and there is no comparison.
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
The procedures described are pretty much the norm for CIP/VIP pax at most airlines except maybe the meet and greet by the station manager. That said GoI will probably be better off just chartering/buying a fleet of business jets for the politicians and mandarins AI flies around, a much cheaper proposition.
That would be my stand too. Many airlines, even privately owned, give complimentary status to powerful politicians, such as Governor(s) members of legislatures, or whomever they wish to be generous too. It costs very little. Meet and greet part is just the Indian way. This kind of behaviour is quite common, and not just in Govt offices.
Lol.. !!!! +1
I am just astounded.. are our MP's that dumb or lazy that need an assistant right from the moment they decide to fly till they are back in their own toilets..!!! wat a waste of public money..
Things are not as simple as they appear. Why is King Fisher not making any money? What about Jet Airways? Indian aviation benefited from the low hanging fruit. Low fuel prices, growing economy, rising standards of living, easy credit, growing market etc.
Times are tougher for airlines now. That it's a Govt undertaking doesn't help also. Almost everyone, not just the politicians, steals when the victim is impersonal entity like a Govt or a corporation.
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
The procedures described are pretty much the norm for CIP/VIP pax at most airlines except maybe the meet and greet by the station manager. That said GoI will probably be better off just chartering/buying a fleet of business jets for the politicians and mandarins AI flies around, a much cheaper proposition.
That would be my stand too. Many airlines, even privately owned, give complimentary status to powerful politicians, such as Governor(s) members of legislatures, or whomever they wish to be generous too. It costs very little. Meet and greet part is just the Indian way. This kind of behaviour is quite common, and not just in Govt offices.
Lol.. !!!! +1
I am just astounded.. are our MP's that dumb or lazy that need an assistant right from the moment they decide to fly till they are back in their own toilets..!!! wat a waste of public money..
Things are not as simple as they appear. Why is King Fisher not making any money? What about Jet Airways? Indian aviation benefited from the low hanging fruit. Low fuel prices, growing economy, rising standards of living, easy credit, growing market etc.
Times are tougher for airlines now. That it's a Govt undertaking doesn't help also. Almost everyone, not just the politicians, steals when the victim is impersonal entity like a Govt or a corporation.
AA_EXP09
Jun 6, 12, 9:20 am
The procedures described are pretty much the norm for CIP/VIP pax at most airlines except maybe the meet and greet by the station manager. That said GoI will probably be better off just chartering/buying a fleet of business jets for the politicians and mandarins AI flies around, a much cheaper proposition.
CX I wasn't escorted to Canadian immigration....
(CX 888 in F last month)
CX I wasn't escorted to Canadian immigration....
(CX 888 in F last month)
PVDtoDEL
Jun 6, 12, 9:24 am
CX I wasn't escorted to Canadian immigration....
(CX 888 in F last month)
You're a VIP?
(CX 888 in F last month)
You're a VIP?
Yaatri
Jun 6, 12, 10:05 am
You're a VIP?
He might be. We don't know. Delta, an airline far inferior to any in the Star Alliance or One World, certainly way behind Jet Airways and King Fisher, if were to go by the prevalent belief here, meets its DMs in JFK at the end of the jetway, as you get off the aircraft and escort you to immigration, customs, and to your next gate or the lounge.
He might be. We don't know. Delta, an airline far inferior to any in the Star Alliance or One World, certainly way behind Jet Airways and King Fisher, if were to go by the prevalent belief here, meets its DMs in JFK at the end of the jetway, as you get off the aircraft and escort you to immigration, customs, and to your next gate or the lounge.
PVDtoDEL
Jun 6, 12, 10:09 am
He might be. We don't know. Delta meets its DMs in JFK at the end of the jetway, as you get off the aircraft and escort you to immigration, customs, and to your next gate or the lounge.
That's why I'm asking ;)
Also, once I know what kind of VIP he is, I'll know what kind of favors to ask for :p:p
That's why I'm asking ;)
Also, once I know what kind of VIP he is, I'll know what kind of favors to ask for :p:p
Mr. Bean
Jun 6, 12, 10:32 am
In the grand scheme of things, these niceties have a very small cost. Compare the bill for fuel that AI has and the bill for this stuff and there is no comparison.
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
It's all over now... the terrorists have won.
You're a VIP?
In my book, every human is a Very Important Person
/sarcasm
That said, in these tough times for AI, they should be focusing on cutting costs and austerity. The fact that politicians asked for this stuff now shows precisely the problem with our government - the people in charge are self-serving instead of trying to help the country. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
It's all over now... the terrorists have won.
You're a VIP?
In my book, every human is a Very Important Person
/sarcasm
PVDtoDEL
Jun 6, 12, 10:36 am
It's all over now... the terrorists have won.
The terrorists politicians won long ago...
The terrorists politicians won long ago...
AA_EXP09
Jun 6, 12, 4:59 pm
You're a VIP?
Original K fare revenue booking.
Used MFU to J.
A KA SHA-HKG was oversold.
I took VDB which was an upgrade to F on my TPAC.
My typical buying:
AA- Q/N 95% of the time, with a few G fares when travelling with several people.
AC-K/T/L/W fares.
CX-V/L fares if I want to sit in Y, K if I want to MFU, and if only full fare Y/B/W is available in Y, I pay the difference to J.
UA-K/T/L/G fares and I take the TOD if it's cheap. (I remember YVR-LAX $59!)
DL/-sL/U/T fares.
Total spend on all airfare was >$15K last year, and >$8K this YTD.
Original K fare revenue booking.
Used MFU to J.
A KA SHA-HKG was oversold.
I took VDB which was an upgrade to F on my TPAC.
My typical buying:
AA- Q/N 95% of the time, with a few G fares when travelling with several people.
AC-K/T/L/W fares.
CX-V/L fares if I want to sit in Y, K if I want to MFU, and if only full fare Y/B/W is available in Y, I pay the difference to J.
UA-K/T/L/G fares and I take the TOD if it's cheap. (I remember YVR-LAX $59!)
DL/-sL/U/T fares.
Total spend on all airfare was >$15K last year, and >$8K this YTD.
Yaatri
Jun 6, 12, 6:32 pm
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/800-mps-are-air-indias-new-maharajas-in-the-sky/957260/
One more thing. Making a profit is good. Profit making may not be. ;)
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/800-mps-are-air-indias-new-maharajas-in-the-sky/957260/
One more thing. Making a profit is good. Profit making may not be. ;)
jasepl
Jun 6, 12, 9:07 pm
That's hardly anything new, or even extraordinary.
Most of those conveniences and courtesies cost absolutely nothing, and some of them should be offered to ordinary premium passengers as well; some of them already are.
The actual additional cost, if any, is likely going to be less than the value of the Air India (ie public-owned) property that AI staff probably klepto from each flight.
Most of those conveniences and courtesies cost absolutely nothing, and some of them should be offered to ordinary premium passengers as well; some of them already are.
The actual additional cost, if any, is likely going to be less than the value of the Air India (ie public-owned) property that AI staff probably klepto from each flight.