Qantas Frequent Flyer - Qantas and Emirates a marriage made in...?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/qantas-may-be-attractive-investment-for-emirates-says-deutsche/story-fnay3vxj-1226366990232

Interesting times indeed!

Hmm can't really see EK being interested. They tend to have a go alone policy rather than the EY strategy of buying shares in other airlines.

I hope that EK sticks with its stand alone policy and doesn't have to start lowering things to match an alliance. e.g. I like that the 1st class lounge is for 1st class only and that gold members in economy cannot fill lounges up with guests

EK surely is one of the world's most overrated airlines. Most flights have slanted beds in J and 10-across seating on a 777 in Y. To me, the airline is all marketing hype. Admittedly, their network is good for AU-EU.

QF international is declining and will continue to do so. The A330 into Asia are uncompetitive with the CX product, and even the SQ regional product. Clinging onto B747 is illogical. And the B787 are being handed to JQ to operate on routes that are questionable in terms of profit (such as SIN-AKL).

In 1997, QF flew to 15 destinations in Asia. Now they fly to 7, 2 of these less than daily. No wonder the competition is now milking the Australian market.

EK surely is one of the world's most overrated airlines. Most flights have slanted beds in J and 10-across seating on a 777 in Y. To me, the airline is all marketing hype. Admittedly, their network is good for AU-EU.

Their 1st class blows Qantas's 1st class away and I prefer EK's business over QF's

To me, the private suites in F are better than the QF A380 offering , the lounges are superior and then there is the chauffeur drive service at most locations to and from the airport. To cap it all the prices are better too

To me, I'd think EK would get some domestic AU codeshares while QF would get some codeshares to secondary European markets, which were originally planned for QF and JQ?

EK surely is one of the world's most overrated airlines. Most flights have slanted beds in J and 10-across seating on a 777 in Y. To me, the airline is all marketing hype. Admittedly, their network is good for AU-EU.

QF international is declining and will continue to do so. The A330 into Asia are uncompetitive with the CX product, and even the SQ regional product. Clinging onto B747 is illogical. And the B787 are being handed to JQ to operate on routes that are questionable in terms of profit (such as SIN-AKL).

In 1997, QF flew to 15 destinations in Asia. Now they fly to 7, 2 of these less than daily. No wonder the competition is now milking the Australian market.

I'll try and be impartial ;) Ninety percent of my travel on EK is within the region, so the product is consistent, and to me, not overrated at all. What is overrated is paying 30% more for a J product on QF/SQ out of SIN, when I can jump on EK, have the car service and use arguably the best IFE around.

QF are not in a great position fleet wise, so the economics are only going to get better for EK as they retire some of their older Airbus and deploy more and more A380's.

And I agree that 10-across in Y is not pleasant. I've done my apprenticeship down the back, and thankfully don't have to do too much Y anymore...

To me, I'd think EK would get some domestic AU codeshares while QF would get some codeshares to secondary European markets, which were originally planned for QF and JQ?

IMO, QF would have to start daily flights to Dubai from several Australian cities for that to make sense. It ain't gonna happen.

IMO, QF would have to start daily flights to Dubai from several Australian cities for that to make sense. It ain't gonna happen.

Or it could codeshare with reciprocal ff... Virtual network ala dj

The big issue is why would ek do it. Like cx they already hit most domestic ports so need for domestic connections is limited.

EK surely is one of the world's most overrated airlines. Most flights have slanted beds in J and 10-across seating on a 777 in Y. To me, the airline is all marketing hype. Admittedly, their network is good for AU-EU.

I agree... not to mention the fact that the EK J lounge in DXB is the biggest s$##hole zoo of any major airline lounge in the world and is so clearly operating beyond its capacity that they cannot even make the wifi work. And the rubbish A380 J product with the narrowest most uncomfortable seats that barely function as a bed and feel like you're sleeping in a tiny plastic coffin. EK is undoubtedly the world's most overrated airline unless you only ever travel in F.

EK is undoubtedly the world's most overrated airline unless you only ever travel in F.

I don't only ever travel in F, from time to time I travel in J and I prefer EK J to QF J and conversely think that the A380 J is one of the nicest business seats with a layout nicely designed so someone in the middle or at the window can get out without having to climb over anyone.

I cannot comment on the business lounge at Dubai but the 1st lounge there is , imo, far better than QF F lounges in Australia ( plus a lot less busy due to being restricted to 1st class passengers or guests of a 1st class Gold member) and the business lounges I have been to ( LGW, LHR, SIN, BKK, AKL and KUL ) are much nicer than QF business lounges I have visited

Do also let me know when QF builds a whole business/1st annexe in Australia where those passengers can be dropped of by the QF provided chauffeur and have a nice separate check in to the rest of the terminal.

Do also let me know when QF builds a whole business/1st annexe in Australia where those passengers can be dropped of by the QF provided chauffeur and have a nice separate check in to the rest of the terminal.

Public transport should be encouraged where ever possible and practical. It would be reasonable to state that many business travellers only travel with carry-ons so should be able to cope with public transport more capably than those lugging their maximum baggage allowance.

Thus said, EK therefore encourages increased traffic congestion through their chauffeur drive scheme. I wonder how much cheaper their tickets would be if the drive was not included?

Public transport should be encouraged where ever possible and practical. It would be reasonable to state that many business travellers only travel with carry-ons so should be able to cope with public transport more capably than those lugging their maximum baggage allowance.

Thus said, EK therefore encourages increased traffic congestion through their chauffeur drive scheme. I wonder how much cheaper their tickets would be if the drive was not included?

oh yesssss, Im sure it adds lots vs those that would drive to the airport or take taxis to the airport anyway otherwise; absolutely

Public transport should be encouraged where ever possible and practical. It would be reasonable to state that many business travellers only travel with carry-ons so should be able to cope with public transport more capably than those lugging their maximum baggage allowance.

Thus said, EK therefore encourages increased traffic congestion through their chauffeur drive scheme. I wonder how much cheaper their tickets would be if the drive was not included?

Did you mean to post this in the Space Travel forum?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/qantas-may-be-attractive-investment-for-emirates-says-deutsche/story-fnay3vxj-1226366990232

Interesting times indeed!


Do you think this is a speculative piece by some down and out bankers wanting to make business for themselves? I've not logged in to the article, but from the two paragraphs I've read it doesn't show any sources from the airlines themselves, just the glorified book keeper. I'm waiting for the day one suggests Macdonalds and Burger King/Hungry Jacks merge because they both sell burgers and could double their locations over night while selling both products.

Of course, if the airlines do buy into one or each other (commi$$ion) then several years later decide it's not worth it (more commi$$ion) at least the bankers keep the economy turning.... :rolleyes: :D

... almost a year later. Love it! :D