India-based Airlines - Biggest Lie You've Heard on an IBA (Airline Staff or Passenger)

I've been actively following the below threads on the UA forum, and its really been a blast. With some of the wonderful IBA Airlines and their staff, in addition to the general Indian populous, I know we can definitely outdo the UA guys. :D

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1344985-biggest-whopper-youve-heard-ua-pilot-flight-attendent-gate-ticket-agent.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1347242-biggest-whopper-youve-heard-ua-passenger.html


I'll start off:

Was on 9W back in 2009 and had a heavily delayed flight getting into BRU. A FA was telling all the J passengers that while 9W would not be able to hold the connecting flight, she would ask Jet to send another plane to take "just the Premiere passengers" from our flight over to NYC. :rolleyes:

While I'm sure her plan was to call Goyal as soon as she got on the ground, the Purser came over and just short of smacked the FA on the head before apologizing to passengers and reassuring everyone that ground staff would do their best to accommodate. :p

Vijay Mallya on the Kingfisher onboard IFE: "my staff treat you like a guest in my home". Unless this is actually how he treats guests at his home! :eek: ;)

One afternoon at peaktime BOM traffic when the JP/Premier line was full..

Dude in a business suit - This line is only for Jet Privilege members who fly frequently.
Me - It's okay.. I will sneak in.
Dude in a business suit - You need a Jet card to enter this line.
Me - Oh really? I'll try my luck I guess.
Dude in a business suit (After 10 mins of silence, half way through the line) - Excuse me sir, I'm telling you for your own good, you are in the wrong line.
Me (Now turns around) - Show me what a Jet card is?
Dude in a business suit (Smiling ear to ear) - Whips out a Blue Plus card.
Me - Takes out Platinum card - "Sir, this line is only for Platinum/Gold/Silver." Points towards the sign and directs him towards economy check-in.

Pax to Check-In Agent on a red-eye BOM-CCU - "I'm very sleepy and I can only sleep well in business."

One afternoon at peaktime BOM traffic when the JP/Premier line was full..

Dude in a business suit - This line is only for Jet Privilege members who fly frequently.
Me - It's okay.. I will sneak in.
Dude in a business suit - You need a Jet card to enter this line.
Me - Oh really? I'll try my luck I guess.
Dude in a business suit (After 10 mins of silence, half way through the line) - Excuse me sir, I'm telling you for your own good, you are in the wrong line.
Me (Now turns around) - Show me what a Jet card is?
Dude in a business suit (Smiling ear to ear) - Whips out a Blue Plus card.
Me - Takes out Platinum card - "Sir, this line is only for Platinum/Gold/Silver." Points towards the sign and directs him towards economy check-in.

Pax to Check-In Agent on a red-eye BOM-CCU - "I'm very sleepy and I can only sleep well in business."
:D:D:D:D

Pax to Check-In Agent on a red-eye BOM-CCU - "I'm very sleepy and I can only sleep well in business."

What if the agent would have outsmarted pax by saying something like:
# Sir, you are most welcome to take the flight tomorrow morning. I can offer you a free reschedule.
# Sir, I see we have a free seat in business. That will be 15,000 Rs. for the upgrade.
;)

........................Pax to Check-In Agent on a red-eye BOM-CCU - "I'm very sleepy and I can only sleep well in business."

Just out of curiosity, what flight would qualify as a BOM CCU red-eye..???

Whips out a Blue Plus card
Going with the "whips out" metaphor - Blue Plus, the first sign of hitting puberty on Jet Privilege :D

Vijay Mallya on the Kingfisher onboard IFE: "my staff treat you like a guest in my home". Unless this is actually how he treats guests at his home! :eek: ;)

Oh dear... looks like we'll have to cancel dinner with the Mallayas next week. Call him for me, would ya? :p

One afternoon at peaktime BOM traffic when the JP/Premier line was full..

Dude in a business suit - This line is only for Jet Privilege members who fly frequently.
Me - It's okay.. I will sneak in.
Dude in a business suit - You need a Jet card to enter this line.
Me - Oh really? I'll try my luck I guess.
Dude in a business suit (After 10 mins of silence, half way through the line) - Excuse me sir, I'm telling you for your own good, you are in the wrong line.
Me (Now turns around) - Show me what a Jet card is?
Dude in a business suit (Smiling ear to ear) - Whips out a Blue Plus card.
Me - Takes out Platinum card - "Sir, this line is only for Platinum/Gold/Silver." Points towards the sign and directs him towards economy check-in.

Pax to Check-In Agent on a red-eye BOM-CCU - "I'm very sleepy and I can only sleep well in business."

Although, I have come across people who think that base membership to an FFP entitles them to use the lite line, and think that they are one of a select group, I have never had such an interaction. I find it hard to believe that someone can be so unaware of the reality that they would question another person in the line.
Nor have I ever been asked by another passenger why I was in the lite line. It takes a lot of gall to do that. I have been, on a few occasions, questioned by airline staff, FA/GA. Questioning other people's credentials is also something most people wouldn't do.
Why in the world let you make him a fool of himself? You could have said, I understand, I too am allowed to use this line.
I am sure there are stupid people, like the one you met. I think your embellished story, like BOM-CCU red-eye, is exaggerated.

My story is not as sensational as the one above. Having been caught in traffic, I barely made it to my flight one evening. After settling down in my seat, with PDB in my hand, I said something like, I didn't think I was going to make this flight to the guy seated next to me. He said to me, "Whenever I am running behind, I call the GA, they hold the flight for me, I am a PLATIUM"
I flew in and out of that airport twice a week for more than 5 years; never saw that guy before or since. And I have never met a PLATIUM in my life. :D

I am sure there are stupid people, like the one you met.


Although not an IBA, here is another post I had on a different forum regarding my own experience several weeks back...

"...when I was in LH F back in March from PHL-FRA-CCU, I had a couple of these incidents.

First, at check-in @ PHL, the passenger behind me taps me on the back, points to the economy check in down the other end of the check-in area, and says "that's where you're supposed to be, this is for First Class only." Funny thing was, he was in J and was sent to wait in the other line.

Then in FRA, I was at the FCT and had a very snooty-types old lady point at me and say (loudly) to her PA - "it doesn't belong in here. why'd you allow it in.""

People are so much better off just dealing with their own business... :rolleyes:


And I have never met a PLATIUM in my life. :D
Ohh... the new mythical Platium tier. C'mon Yaatri, he was obviously a super-duper-elite. :)

Just out of curiosity, what flight would qualify as a BOM CCU red-eye..???
9W619? I know it's not red-eye in the traditional "overnight" sense but I guess early morning flights qualify for the term as well?

I have been, on a few occasions, questioned by airline staff, FA/GA. Questioning other people's credentials is also something most people wouldn't do.
Why in the world let you make him a fool of himself? You could have said, I understand, I too am allowed to use this line.
I am sure there are stupid people, like the one you met.
I'm 22 and I wear ripped jeans and bright t-shirts at airports. I also love playing around with people when I'm sure I'm in the right and they are in the wrong.. What's life without a bit of humour, innit? :D

Going with the "whips out" metaphor - Blue Plus, the first sign of hitting puberty on Jet Privilege :D
Don't forget, some of us do it willingly! Like I relinquished gold last year end and am a silver by choice now ... Voting with the wallet ;)

9W619? I know it's not red-eye in the traditional "overnight" sense but I guess early morning flights qualify for the term as well?


I'm 22 and I wear ripped jeans and bright t-shirts at airports. I also love playing around with people when I'm sure I'm in the right and they are in the wrong.. What's life without a bit of humour, innit? :D

Lol.. Your red eye term had me really confused.. I thought we are referring to different countries, considering I have done CCU to most possible sectors in India, and non of them are red-eye.. (and no, morning flights don't qualify to be called red-eye)

as for your story, I can't corroborate the genuineness of it, but I agree with the scheme.. I was once in a Premier line wearing 3quarters and t-shirt, with the most sleepy look possible under the sun (it was an early morning flight and I was late.. I just got out of bed and headed straight to the car).. the suit guy infront of me gave me the most disgusted look and was about to open his mouth about me being the wrong line (or so I think) and I gave him the "I dare you to tell me I am in the wrong line" look.. so I can well imagine it happening to you..

Ohh... the new mythical Platium tier. C'mon Yaatri, he was obviously a super-duper-elite. :)

Yep. One of very select few that you are lucky come across once in your life. I couldn't take it more than once. Some people don't say anything but try to edge you out, like at the time of boarding, if they think you don't belong there. We were at Schiphol. waiting to board in Y, with my children, (all plats), when a guy with 10 or 11 yr old edged my 5r old son out. I pulled my son back towards me thinking maybe he was travelling in Business Class, even though they had announced that Golds and Plats would board with Biz. When we got on board, I found him seated in the window section in 2-4-2 configuration. I usually don;t say anything, but I couldn't resist saying, "The way you shoved my kids, I thought you were in Business Class". "I am a Silver Elite", said the idiot. That irritated me even more. Instead of disclosing our status, I told him that his status didn't give him a right to shove a child, to which he replied, "I am entitled to board with Business class." as if I didn't know. I thought I should cut him down to a few sized, but didn't want to stoop to his level and flash our four platinum cards. An FA was watching out interaction, I guess, in case it escalated. The guy was quite aggressive.
His eyes almost popped out when the purser came to thank us personally and said, It's because of people like you that I have a job", and gave us a bottle of wine.

Don't forget, some of us do it willingly! Like I relinquished gold last year end and am a silver by choice now ... Voting with the wallet ;)
Sure, but we don't whip it out :D

In my experience, I've found DYKWIAism far more prevalent among foreigners than Indian people.

Not the biggest, but it ranks up there.

(paraphrasing here):


Flight lands, with cabin appearing as if in mid-flight.
People, objects, beverages all go flying.
Crew would rather paint nails and gossip loudly (so much more fun than securing the cabin and ensuring passenger safety).
Note (with pictures) sent to airline.
Jet's written response: Nothing of the sort happened. Eff off.

Was not a lie as such But hilarious none the less.

Delta ground staff on being quizzed why the flight is late By a couple of hours.

The airplane is broken. We are bringing new airplane.

Was not a lie as such But hilarious none the less.

Delta ground staff on being quizzed why the flight is late By a couple of hours.

The airplane is broken. We are bringing new airplane.

I guess I don't get the joke, because the response seems correct? The airplane isn't working as expected, so they are bringing a new airplane...

Broken in my dictionary and the 5 others with me, is that it is in lots of small pieces. Technical problem would have sufficed. But I guess That's the American way of speaking.

For an American airline at a European hub, extra aircraft don't just sit there to replace an aircraft that goes tech.

Broken in my dictionary and the 5 others with me, is that it is in lots of small pieces. Technical problem would have sufficed. But I guess That's the American way of speaking.
Broken into lots of small pieces = broken up. Simply using the word broken when referring to a machine, system, animate object, or idea usually refers to "not working." Using the word broken to refer to an inanimate object that is not part of a system, like "broken vase" can imply that it is broken up, although it could also mean that the vase is not functioning properly.

For an American airline at a European hub, extra aircraft don't just sit there to replace an aircraft that goes tech.
Depends. DL maintains a lot of operational flexibility at CDG and AMS, which are almost like hubs for them.

Of course, without knowing the specific details, no conclusions can be drawn...

@Yaatri - Kudos for not going ape on that fellow. If a fellow were acting like that in front of me, I'm not sure I would've been able to restrain from at least making him well aware of my presence.

9W619? I know it's not red-eye in the traditional "overnight" sense but I guess early morning flights qualify for the term as well?

definitely not a red-eye....

i was on a ua red-eye last week from lax-bos & i asked the agent during check-in if i could pay to upgrade from economy to first....i guess she missed the part where i said i was willing to pay....she immediately said there were no seats available in first as they were completely sold out....i went back to the kiosk to check-in & the system offer me a paid upgrade for both my wife & me....not only that, when it gave me an option to choose my seat, it seemed that there were 7 seats available in first....i took the option to upgrade & went back to the agent to let her know the flight was not as full as she claimed....she had a sheepish look on her face....

definitely not a red-eye....

i was on a ua red-eye last week from lax-bos & i asked the agent during check-in if i could pay to upgrade from economy to first....i guess she missed the part where i said i was willing to pay....she immediately said there were no seats available in first as they were completely sold out....i went back to the kiosk to check-in & the system offer me a paid upgrade for both my wife & me....not only that, when it gave me an option to choose my seat, it seemed that there were 7 seats available in first....i took the option to upgrade & went back to the agent to let her know the flight was not as full as she claimed....she had a sheepish look on her face....

In all likelyhood, she didn't miss the part about you being willing to pay. She was just too lazy to process the upgrade.

In all likelyhood, she didn't miss the part about you being willing to pay. She was just too lazy to process the upgrade.

she didn't have to process the upgrade....all she had to do was tell me that it would have been offered to me while using the kiosk....

she didn't have to process the upgrade....all she had to do was tell me that it would have been offered to me while using the kiosk....

The agent wouldn't know that an upgrade is available unless they bother to check in the first place...

The agent wouldn't know that an upgrade is available unless they bother to check in the first place...

And then again, we're talking about UA here... not PMUA. BIG difference.

Just out of curiosity, what flight would qualify as a BOM CCU red-eye..???

Perhaps one in which your eyes go red as you wait for the flight to actually depart? :)

...I have never had such an interaction. I find it hard to believe that someone can be so unaware of the reality that they would question another person in the line.

You are luckier than many of us. I run into three types of situations-

1. People who basically want to be social or helpful, but lack a sense of balance/limits to know when to stop.

2. Those who seek some advantage at your expense. They will try to cut in the line before you, or request that you exchange your better seat for their less desirable one.

3. Then there are those who tend to become "in charge" of all situations and fancy themselves as "enforcers" of whatever rules they think might apply.

Perhaps one in which your eyes go red as you wait for the flight to actually depart? :)

Lol..!!!!:D



2. Those who seek some advantage at your expense. They will try to cut in the line before you, or request that you exchange your better seat for their less desirable one.



This is so common.. I can't count the number of times someone was already on my seat when I boarded and I just couldn't bring myself to ask them to get their butt's off my seat.. so I had to make do with another seat.. this happens most often when I have a front row seat..

Perhaps one in which your eyes go red as you wait for the flight to actually depart? :)
Thank you for enlightening me with the the Indian concept of a red-eye. :D


You are luckier than many of us. I run into three types of situations-

1. People who basically want to be social or helpful, but lack a sense of balance/limits to know when to stop.

2. Those who seek some advantage at your expense. They will try to cut in the line before you, or request that you exchange your better seat for their less desirable one.

3. Then there are those who tend to become "in charge" of all situations and fancy themselves as "enforcers" of whatever rules they think might apply.

I have met the 2nd and the third kind. but not the first kind. The third kind are usually people who congregate at the priority line and don't seem to read the sign that says elites can board via the priority line at any time.

This is so common.. I can't count the number of times someone was already on my seat when I boarded and I just couldn't bring myself to ask them to get their butt's off my seat.. so I had to make do with another seat.. this happens most often when I have a front row seat..

Its happened to me before, and that too in my coveted row 6 on the Airbus.

Simplest solution - walk up to the FA with a confused look and ask for help in finding/clearing the seat. That works 90% of the time. In the other 10%, where even the FA is advising to take another seat, kindly explain to FA and fellow pax the reason why you wanted the seat (exit row, bulkhead, arm storage space), and it always ends up clearing the issue.

Getting an FA involved is probably your best course of action if you don't want to directly deal with the other fellow.

Its happened to me before, and that too in my coveted row 6 on the Airbus.

Simplest solution - walk up to the FA with a confused look and ask for help in finding/clearing the seat. That works 90% of the time. In the other 10%, where even the FA is advising to take another seat, kindly explain to FA and fellow pax the reason why you wanted the seat (exit row, bulkhead, arm storage space), and it always ends up clearing the issue.

Getting an FA involved is probably your best course of action if you don't want to directly deal with the other fellow.

Actually I would first say to the poacher "I believe you're in my seat". It may be an error - I've done that myself and happily (and embarrassedly!) moved to my rightful seat. Be polite but firm.

If this doesn't resolve the situation then call on the FA for assistance. You don't owe an excuse to the poacher. Don't listen to excuses or pleas, they are in the wrong, it's none of their business why you selected your seat, and if you offer excuses and engage further with them you are losing the battle. By allowing them to take your seat you are encouraging them to continue to poach seats from others in the future.

Actually I would first say to the poacher "I believe you're in my seat". It may be an error - I've done that myself and happily (and embarrassedly!) moved to my rightful seat. Be polite but firm.

If this doesn't resolve the situation then call on the FA for assistance. You don't owe an excuse to the poacher. Don't listen to excuses or pleas, they are in the wrong, it's none of their business why you selected your seat, and if you offer excuses and engage further with them you are losing the battle. By allowing them to take your seat you are encouraging them to continue to poach seats from others in the future.

Fair enough - I was just replying to the OP who was saying that they weren't able to muster up and talk to the poacher in question. For them the best course of action would probably be to bring in an FA, but in normal cases, I agree, speaking to the fellow is probably best!

Fair enough - I was just replying to the OP who was saying that they weren't able to muster up and talk to the poacher in question. For them the best course of action would probably be to bring in an FA, but in normal cases, I agree, speaking to the fellow is probably best!

Yes, but I wonder then how the OP would know which seat to take? If you just move to any other vacant seat you may well be poaching someone else's seat - it would be best, I think, to first make the assumption that it's an error. Myself, I would be more shy of asking the FA first rather than the person in my seat.

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just an interesting conundrum.

This has reminded me, I once had a rather agressive young man insisting that I was in his seat, an aisle, I knew I wasn't and asked him what his seat number was - he told me, I directed him to his window seat and went back to reading my book.

Yes, but I wonder then how the OP would know which seat to take? If you just move to any other vacant seat you may well be poaching someone else's seat - it would be best, I think, to first make the assumption that it's an error. Myself, I would be more shy of asking the FA first rather than the person in my seat.

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just an interesting conundrum.

This has reminded me, I once had a rather agressive young man insisting that I was in his seat, an aisle, I knew I wasn't and asked him what his seat number was - he told me, I directed him to his window seat and went back to reading my book.

Indeed. I (as stated in a bunch of other threads) am a bit of a stickler for rows 6/10 on the 9W Airbus, since they have extra storage room and more arm-space, etc when fully back. I've found that a row 6 seat is often reserved for the relief pilot as well.

The number of times that folks have tried taking my precious 6/10 seat astounds me. It's happened at check-in, in the lounge, and on board.

I once had this aunty-types that was sitting in 6D when I boarded. I politely told her that she was in my seat. Since boarding was still early, she told me that "lots other seats open - go take other seat." I told her that they belong to other passengers, so I couldn't do that.

She made a face at me, muttered something under her breath, and shifted to 5A with all her worldly possessions. I made myself at home and boarding progressed. The FA came around with the drinks tray, she proceeded to take the apple juice and in a fit of sheer brilliance, knocked it off of the side rest and soaked herself and the seat.

FA came back and brought over some paper towels and a cleaning kit. Not a minute later come the real occupants of 5A (a woman and her infant), wondering what's going on. All set and done, the aunty was sitting in Premiere with a Y ticket, messed up the seat for mother and child, and all that the 9W staff could do was put a mattress pad on the seat to prevent them from coming in contact with the wet/smelly seat (full cabin). Phew, close call.

That was the one time that I was willing to give up my seat and exchange with them, just because I felt quite bad, and I did offer. Either way, there was a non-rev staff in one of the other seats who ended up switching.

All set and done, the aunty was sitting in Premiere with a Y ticket, messed up the seat for mother and child, and all that the 9W staff could do was put a mattress pad on the seat to prevent them from coming in contact with the wet/smelly seat (full cabin). Phew, close call.
Jeez.. You have to be a serious low-life to be able to sit in Premiere with a Y ticket and happily drink the juice + spill it as well.

Jeez.. You have to be a serious low-life to be able to sit in Premiere with a Y ticket and happily drink the juice + spill it as well.

True - and the sad part was that it was very obvious to everyone that she was fully aware that she wasn't supposed to be in Premiere. She wasn't able to lie very well, and ended up making some cock-and-bull story about how the gate agent told her to sit "wherever she wanted."

Accidental ignorance is one thing - knowingly doing something is yet another.

Some fault also goes to the FA's here for not verifying the BP during boarding, but after all, they are just human and I assume that they may have been caught up in some other work...

Actually I would first say to the poacher "I believe you're in my seat". It may be an error - I've done that myself and happily (and embarrassedly!) moved to my rightful seat. Be polite but firm.

If this doesn't resolve the situation then call on the FA for assistance. You don't owe an excuse to the poacher. Don't listen to excuses or pleas, they are in the wrong, it's none of their business why you selected your seat, and if you offer excuses and engage further with them you are losing the battle. By allowing them to take your seat you are encouraging them to continue to poach seats from others in the future.

Yes, but I wonder then how the OP would know which seat to take? If you just move to any other vacant seat you may well be poaching someone else's seat - it would be best, I think, to first make the assumption that it's an error. Myself, I would be more shy of asking the FA first rather than the person in my seat.

I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just an interesting conundrum.

This has reminded me, I once had a rather agressive young man insisting that I was in his seat, an aisle, I knew I wasn't and asked him what his seat number was - he told me, I directed him to his window seat and went back to reading my book.

Good points. I have found my seat already occupied, passively, as well as actively, a few times. Sometimes it's an error on airline's part-the same seat assigned to two people. It's best to make it known to the poacher (which I find is a harsh word, as we don't even know if the person was indeed poaching), politely that he/she is sitting in your seat. If there is resistance or an error on airline's part, FA has to be called in.
I would not take it upon myself to assign myself another seat. I have sat in the wrong seat myself a few times. Usually wrong row or wrong side of the aisle, but never found myself sitting in the aisle seat when I was assigned a window seat. However, infrequent flyers don't know by looking at their BP whether their seat is a window aisle or the dreaded middle.

...or the dreaded middle.

Normally, yes, the dreaded middle.

Then again, on a US-domestic flight last month, I was assigned the middle seat and grumpily made my way along to my seat. Lo and behold, I see that I am sitting between two lovely young ladies. Chit-chatted our way through the 3.5 hours of the flight, and I get to meet up and have dinner with Ms. 21C next week. ;)

Feels nice to be in my early-20's. :D

...It's best to make it known to the poacher (which I find is a harsh word, as we don't even know if the person was indeed poaching)...

I guess it's one of those terms that sounds a bit impolite, but it seems to be used whether the poaching was deliberate or in error.


Usually wrong row or wrong side of the aisle, but never found myself sitting in the aisle seat when I was assigned a window seat. However, infrequent flyers don't know by looking at their BP whether their seat is a window aisle or the dreaded middle.

When I poached the seat it was at the end of a long international flight (in excess of 24 hours), the airline had seated me for the first two legs by the window, despite my request for an aisle. On one leg, I arrived to find a family in my seat! The FA waved me away and said "you can just go and sit over there" as she had moved them so they could sit together. As I was much younger and inexperienced than now, and the seat was similar, I complied.

My flight had been rerouted which meant instead of going straight home I landed at an airport 90 minutes away and had a three hour wait for the flight home. My BP said I was in 1B, but when I boarded there was no 1B, just 1A and 1C. I was tired and cranky so I just sat down by the window figuring I had a 50% chance of being right. I should have checked with the FA I guess, but I'd just had it by then!

i was in the wrong, but, Your Honour, I plead not guilty due to mitigating circumstances. :D

And I realise that I have taken this thread way off topic, for which I apologise.

Actually I would first say to the poacher "I believe you're in my seat". It may be an error - I've done that myself and happily (and embarrassedly!) moved to my rightful seat.

I've done this before too. I've sat myself one row behind where I was supposed to sit and had another pax show up and ask me if I was in the right seat. I took my boarding pass out to show him that I was, indeed in the right seat, when I suddenly realised that I wasn't! :eek:

Needless to say, I moved. And no, I didn't spill juice on the seat before moving :rolleyes:

There's no harm in asking politely for another pax to move. Often, they're there by mistake. If it can happen to experienced travellers, surely it can happen to those who don't travel as much.

There's no harm in asking politely for another pax to move. Often, they're there by mistake. If it can happen to experienced travellers, surely it can happen to those who don't travel as much.

However, do exercise caution when they show their fangs and snarl at you. :D

Yes, it has happened. Albeit not over a seat dispute. I was seriously concerned that I had entered the Twilight movie or something.

I've found that a row 6 seat is often reserved for the relief pilot as well.

The number of times that folks have tried taking my precious 6/10 seat astounds me. It's happened at check-in, in the lounge, and on board.

I once had this aunty-types that was sitting in 6D when I boarded. I politely told her that she was in my seat. Since boarding was still early, she told me that "lots other seats open - go take other seat." I told her that they belong to other passengers, so I couldn't do that.


After taking quite a few premiere flights, where I would always ask for 6K and usually get it, I once found myself in 6A which is the pilot's rest seat. I was very amused that this one seat had a curtain there and I had never noticed it before.

as for the aunty-types, she needed to go right after boarding the plane from 1L, how did she turn 180 degrees and go left, especially past the JetChildren who are greeting pax, is some major mystery for me ;)

as for the aunty-types, she needed to go right after boarding the plane from 1L, how did she turn 180 degrees and go left, especially past the JetChildren who are greeting pax, is some major mystery for me ;)

Not only that, but the JC's not checking her BP prior to her sitting down, enjoying the beverages, reclining the seat into near-flat, etc. was a bit surprising. The nerve of some people.

Either way, as I said, JC's are just human. Then again, remember that the gate agent told her to sit "wherever she wanted." :rolleyes:

Either way, as I said, JC's are just human. Then again, remember that the gate agent told her to sit "wherever she wanted." :rolleyes:

I'll smoke what she was smoking just to get the same sense of entitlement the next time my upgrade does not clear. :p

Something similar (and more embarrassing) happened to my friend last week..

He just joined a new company and was flying to LHR with his new boss and got upgraded on BA while his boss didn't. He offered him the seat but he turned it down. Said it was his worst J experience ever.

This is so common.. I can't count the number of times someone was already on my seat when I boarded and I just couldn't bring myself to ask them to get their butt's off my seat.. so I had to make do with another seat.. this happens most often when I have a front row seat..

Happened to me boarding a BOM-SIN flight. Boarded last, and found that the newly-wed couple seated in seats B and C had decided they wanted to occupy A and B.

When I got to the row, I was "told" (not asked, told) that I should take the aisle seat as they were newlyweds.

:rolleyes:

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This is so common.. I can't count the number of times someone was already on my seat when I boarded and I just couldn't bring myself to ask them to get their butt's off my seat.. so I had to make do with another seat.. this happens most often when I have a front row seat..

Happened to me boarding a BOM-SIN flight. Boarded last, and found that the newly-wed couple seated in seats B and C had decided they wanted to occupy A and B.

When I got to the row, I was "told" (not asked, told) that I should take the aisle seat as they were newlyweds.

:rolleyes:

Were you told by an FA or by them? I would have told them to upgrade me to F if they wanted then to take your seat, easy as that..

Them. And no I didn't oblige. I generally don't when I'm "told" to do something by people I've never met.

Them. And no I didn't oblige. I generally don't when I'm "told" to do something by people I've never met.

It's just ridiculous to see the false sense of entitlement that so many people have these days.

I'm sure a polite request asking if you would mind or else if they had asked an FA to see if there were any other seats together would have worked just as well... :rolleyes:

Something similar (and more embarrassing) happened to my friend last week..

He just joined a new company and was flying to LHR with his new boss and got upgraded on BA while his boss didn't. He offered him the seat but he turned it down. Said it was his worst J experience ever.

This happened to me too. My uncle who is a big shot TA was flying on the same zeroed out flight as me from LHR to DEL on Jet. He called in his favor for an upgrade, I called in my favor with my friend working in Jet. Both on upgrade vouchers and I got the seat even though I checked in after him.

On board I but naturally offered him the seat (wishing he would say no) which he did. Worst guilt ridden flight ever.

Oh here's a good one. The biggest lie I've heard from an IBA.

"we will be flying the 787 between DEL and MEL"

:D

"we will be flying the 787 between DEL and MEL"


DEL-(BLR)-MEL-SYD is still the plan. Not a lie. yet, anyway.

DEL-(BLR)-MEL-SYD is still the plan. Not a lie. yet, anyway.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-india-cancels-boeing-787-dreamliner-debut?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=flipper&utm_campaign=home-flipper

http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-india-cancels-boeing-787-dreamliner-debut?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=flipper&utm_campaign=home-flipper

Yes, we already know that AI has deferred delivery until they can come to a compensation agreement with Boeing. That agreement is expected this month, with 3 deliveries taking place. Familiarization flights will begin next month, and Australia service will be launched in September.

Yes, we already know that AI has deferred delivery until they can come to a compensation agreement with Boeing. That agreement is expected this month, with 3 deliveries taking place. Familiarization flights will begin next month, and Australia service will be launched in September.

You in HYD, right? I remember there being a fantastic restaurant by the Hussain Sagar Lake (who's name I can't remember right now, a friend took me there a few years ago!)...

Lets have a friendly wager over AI launching (or not launching) services to Oz by September.

Loser buys the meal :P

You in HYD, right? I remember there being a fantastic restaurant by the Hussain Sagar Lake (who's name I can't remember right now, a friend took me there a few years ago!)...

Lets have a friendly wager over AI launching (or not launching) services to Oz by September.

Loser buys the meal :P

No deal - this is AI. Everything gets delayed.

By the end of the year maybe :)

Oh here's a good one. The biggest lie I've heard from an IBA.

"we will be flying the 787 between DEL and MEL"

:D
:D :D

Where did the del blr mel syd plan come from. Wasn't it del-mel direct?

Lets have a friendly wager over AI launching (or not launching) services to Oz by September.


Are you offering any odds on this one?

Where did the del blr mel syd plan come from. Wasn't it del-mel direct?

The routing (to my understanding) is triangular DEL-SYD-MEL-DEL-MEL-SYD-DEL, with BLR stops 3 or 4x per week.

Them. And no I didn't oblige. I generally don't when I'm "told" to do something by people I've never met.

^ Do it for them once and they'll have a lifetime of being entitled. Kudos for taking your own seat.

The routing (to my understanding) is triangular DEL-SYD-MEL-DEL-MEL-SYD-DEL, with BLR stops 3 or 4x per week.

Wow. 1984 all over again.

Wow. 1984 all over again.

Not really. BLR-MEL-SYD-BLR or DEL-MEL-SYD-DEL type triangles are reasonably common even today, and for the BLR triangle, the aircraft has to get to DEL anyway because that is where crewing/maintenance is.

1. AI won't start the flights down under.
2. If they do, they won't last long.
3. If that happens, it will be despite flights being unprofitable.

Happy to be proven wrong.

1. AI won't start the flights down under.
2. If they do, they won't last long.
3. If that happens, it will be despite flights being unprofitable.

Happy to be proven wrong.

I think #3 is most likely, although #2 is also possible. Short of not taking delivery of the 787, I highly doubt #1 will turn out true.