Star Alliance - RTW options (cash)

Yes, I would like to use cash for a RTW.

Something like this:

-Calgary
-Warsaw
-Tokyo
-Calgary

in C or F.

Can start/end in Warsaw if the price is lower. :)

Any recommendations?

I will offer tips on AP RTWs in return. ;)

give these guys a call

http://www.longhaultravel.com/

Yes, I would like to use cash for a RTW.

It's too bad the SQ RTW doesn't exist any more. That was an awesome deal in F, even if you had to make your way to/from East/West coast US airports.

It's too bad the SQ RTW doesn't exist any more. That was an awesome deal in F, even if you had to make your way to/from East/West coast US airports.
Yes, I know!!!!!!

SQ RTW is still a pretty good deal although needs creativity to fit your needs.

SQ Metal RTW (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/singapore-airlines-krisflyer/1311293-sq-metal-rtw.html)

SQ RTW is still a pretty good deal although needs creativity to fit your needs.

SQ Metal RTW (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/singapore-airlines-krisflyer/1311293-sq-metal-rtw.html)

Very interesting... I thought it had gone away completely. Of course it is less than entirely attractive due to the surcharges as noted here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18518371-post31.html). The F RTW had none of these IIRC.

short answer is: Forget about a RTW ticket if YYC/WAW/NRT are your only stops, it´s not worth the money. If you had asked a few weeks ago I may have reccommended a RTW ex-CPH, but the fares just increased substantially, the cheapest YRTW now is $3k++ and wouldn´t start in any of the countries you´re intending to visit.

I´d reccommend the following options:

1) any ticket YYC-Europe and a separate, nested ticket Europe-NRT (I´d reccommend LX in booking class H which is reasonably priced and upgrable using AE miles at time of booking)

2) If you really want to do a RTW, look into NZ fares Europe-AKL (most options are LON-AKL). Some of those fares allow a routing via NRT and Canada, e.g. LHR-NRT(VS/LH)-AKL(NZ)-YVR(NZ)-YYC(AC)-LHR(AC)

SQ RTW is being repriced right now. I was just quoted about $7k for J RTW on all SQ metal (no plane type surcharges).

I believe they are also working on F and R pricing as well.

This is BY FAR the best bet for premium class RTW.

What did the *A tool give you?

SQ RTW is being repriced right now. I was just quoted about $7k for J RTW on all SQ metal (no plane type surcharges).

I believe they are also working on F and R pricing as well.

This is BY FAR the best bet for premium class RTW.

it' 5k for sq j rtw with like 500 bucks per long haul surcharge.

It's not worth it, but you could do:
YYC-LAX-HND
HND-ICN-FRA/LHR-WAW
WAW-LHR/FRA-YYC

Not sure if this will work with your destinations but it is a great deal in J

http://www.thegreatescapade.com/

I have no idea if this is any good, but for what it's worth:

http://www.staralliance.com/en/fares/round-the-world-fare/

I have no idea if this is any good, but for what it's worth:

http://www.staralliance.com/en/fares/round-the-world-fare/

Check out different countries as starting points. You can save a ton of money by booking through Korea or many African countries (Check Ethiopia, South Africa or South Korea). Just means you have to get to the booking country to start and finish the trip but sometimes the cost of the return flights to starting point end up still saving you significantly than just booking a RTW from Canada/US/Europe

I have no idea if this is any good, but for what it's worth:

http://www.staralliance.com/en/fares/round-the-world-fare/

So who can get the most out of an ALL first class itinerary using all segments and stopovers and as close to 39,000 as possible?

If I had 3 months off work and $60K to blow on a trip I would be gone on one of these tomorrow.

I had put together a trip in First with 16 segments @ 38,920 for $25,000 However only 4 segments were actually in first (one SQ A380). So you might as well pay the $10,000 for the business version of the same trip. However my trip looked like some sketchy airlines. I'm sure someone here could plan the best planes, seats, lounges and experience. Would be curious to see what it would look like.

FB

So who can get the most out of an ALL first class itinerary using all segments and stopovers and as close to 39,000 as possible?

If I had 3 months off work and $60K to blow on a trip I would be gone on one of these tomorrow.

I had put together a trip in First with 16 segments @ 38,920 for $25,000 However only 4 segments were actually in first (one SQ A380). So you might as well pay the $10,000 for the business version of the same trip. However my trip looked like some sketchy airlines. I'm sure someone here could plan the best planes, seats, lounges and experience. Would be curious to see what it would look like.

FB

I´m pretty sure the SQ F suites ("R class") cannot be included in RTW tickets, AFAIK SQ has started to open F booking class on some of those flights, but no A availability which is required for the RTW.

Anyways, maximizing the F experience probably is pretty easy, probably something like:

ZRH-JNB(LX F)-FRA(LH F A380)-US(LH F new 747 or 380)-NRT(NH F)-BKK(TG F 77W suites)-SIN(TG C)-Europe (SQ F).

total of 6 longhaul F segments.

You´d get to experience the LX FCL ZRH, LH FRA FCT, the TG FCL/Spa BKK and the SQ Private room SIN which are the four best *A lounge offerings out there.

I´m pretty sure the SQ F suites ("R class") cannot be included in RTW tickets, AFAIK SQ has started to open F booking class on some of those flights, but no A availability which is required for the RTW.



SQ now has "A" availability on their A380 Suites and can be used for *A F RTW fares.

However, there is a surcharge per sector that is added to the fare. Depending on the flight sector, the surcharge can range from USD 700 to USD 2000.

SQ now has "A" availability on their A380 Suites and can be used for *A F RTW fares.

However, there is a surcharge per sector that is added to the fare. Depending on the flight sector, the surcharge can range from USD 700 to USD 2000.

Thanks for the info. I stand corrected. I just had a look at the surcharges and they are completely ridiculous IMO. Then again if you´re willing to spend >$20k for a FRTW ticket I guess you don´t care about an extra $1k-$2k.

Thanks for the info. I stand corrected. I just had a look at the surcharges and they are completely ridiculous IMO. Then again if you´re willing to spend >$20k for a FRTW ticket I guess you don´t care about an extra $1k-$2k.

The flight I had picked did have a $1135.00 surcharge.

Going back to the original request, with only 2 stops an RTW is not very efficient.
If you were making greater use, them go ahead.
I would suggest buying a RTW originating in NRT, that is one of the cheapest
originating points.

I am in the midst of one right now ( FRTWSTAR1): NRT-TPE-SHA//HGH-ICN-HKG-SIN-CGK-SIN-BKK-CDG-FRA-YYZ-ORD-NRT.

I still have some mileage to burn on this, so if I have time to do a MR, I may change
YYZ-ORD to something like YYZ-LAX/SFO/MEX-ORD-NRT.

I've already used the TG spa ( 1 hour full-body massge) - but no more golf cart ride to the gate.

And I was in the FRA FCT last week - no more limo ride from the main terminal to the FCT-
they suggest that the new First Class lounges in the main termainal are equal to the FCT,
and no longer provide the ride. If you want to use the FCT, you have to walk!
Still get the limo from the FCT to the plane, though.

Thank you for all your advice.

In light of this, I will probably do:
YYZ-WAW-YYZ (LO Z sales regularly 2200 CAD [on right now!])
WAW-IST-NRT-IST-WAW (TK Z @ 3300 CAD)

Going back to the original request, with only 2 stops an RTW is not very efficient.
If you were making greater use, them go ahead.
I would suggest buying a RTW originating in NRT, that is one of the cheapest
originating points.

I am in the midst of one right now ( FRTWSTAR1): NRT-TPE-SHA//HGH-ICN-HKG-SIN-CGK-SIN-BKK-CDG-FRA-YYZ-ORD-NRT.

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I am starting to think about a RTW, and I was aware starting in Japan was a cheaper option than starting in Canada. Would appreciate any tips you have--did you book your trip on line (on Star Alliance website) or was it easier to use a travel agent. Roughly how much would you save starting in Japan vs Canada?

I found an internet site that showed the prices to start in various countries from least to most expensive. Seems to me Denmark was low in price as well, but I kind of like the idea of starting in Japan as I head there now and again.

RTW fares from Japan and ICN are very comparable. Booking on *A site seems to have problems with the backtracking so I use a TA. RTW still requires 4 stop overs ( not more than 5 in North America!!)and the 29,000 CStarRTW from either place will be between 6 and 8,000 dollars ( depends on the surcharges) Much cheaper than starting in Canada or US. BTW a Circle Pacific starting in Canada is about 2000 cheaper than starting in US

Thank you for all your advice.

In light of this, I will probably do:
YYZ-WAW-YYZ (LO Z sales regularly 2200 CAD [on right now!])
WAW-IST-NRT-IST-WAW (TK Z @ 3300 CAD)

I had great success with an RTW in J that originated in KEF.
I booked in fall of 2009 when Icelandic currency was a 'bit' soft!
Used the *A RTW tool and AC priced it out to 6K all in.
Still chuckle remembering the agent questioning why the start in KEF instead of YYZ. I told her to price it out using YYZ as origin and it topped out at over 10k ! FI got me from BOS to KEF for 300$ including the AC flt from YYZ.
Perhaps try to build some routes using the examples given already and see if the same strategy works...

it' 5k for sq j rtw with like 500 bucks per long haul surcharge.

What I'm saying is that they are repricing right now. $7k all in no surcharges....and possibly working on F and R.

I am starting to think about a RTW, and I was aware starting in Japan was a cheaper option than starting in Canada. Would appreciate any tips you have--did you book your trip on line (on Star Alliance website) or was it easier to use a travel agent. Roughly how much would you save starting in Japan vs Canada?

I found an internet site that showed the prices to start in various countries from least to most expensive. Seems to me Denmark was low in price as well, but I kind of like the idea of starting in Japan as I head there now and again.

I select all my flights using KVS, then use a travel agent to issue ticket.
( I do so since much easier for him to make changes en route if necessary).

Today's fares from KVS, for XRTWSTAR1 ( Y/C/F)

ex NRT: 3994/7749/12430
ex YYZ: 5457/10449/16822

so you save 1500-4500 starting in NRT ( greater savings on XRTWSTAR2/3)

I select all my flights using KVS, then use a travel agent to issue ticket.
( I do so since much easier for him to make changes en route if necessary).

Today's fares from KVS, for XRTWSTAR1 ( Y/C/F)

ex NRT: 3994/7749/12430
ex YYZ: 5457/10449/16822

so you save 1500-4500 starting in NRT ( greater savings on XRTWSTAR2/3)

Thanks for that info. Definitely saving this information for future reference.