Hyatt Gold Passport - Long term rates

Has anyone had any success getting a long term (3 month+) rate at a Hyatt property that is better than one can get themselves with a AAA or other standard discount code? FWIW, this is a lower priced Hyatt property in the D.C. area. NOT a HP, though I am going to try them, too.

I am getting pushback when trying to achieve this, though I have stayed there several times and have been Diamond for at least 4 years in a row now. It didn't appear to me that they really tried that hard, but I am hoping to validate my experience by hearing about yours.

Thanks!

Has anyone had any success getting a long term (3 month+) rate at a Hyatt property that is better than one can get themselves with a AAA or other standard discount code? FWIW, this is a lower priced Hyatt property in the D.C. area. NOT a HP, though I am going to try them, too.

I am getting pushback when trying to achieve this, though I have stayed there several times and have been Diamond for at least 4 years in a row now. It didn't appear to me that they really tried that hard, but I am hoping to validate my experience by hearing about yours.

Thanks!
I got a much better rate for an extended stay at a Marriott property (Residence Inn) by going to the hotel and speaking directly to the general manager. It's sure worth a try. Best of luck.

Just beware that long stay rate usually does not receive goldpassport benefits or stay credits.

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I'm not sure about not earning points/stay credits; I would be surprised if that were the case.

One thing to consider is in that most states; stays over 30 days do not incur taxes!

You might have more success with negotiating perks rather than a greatly reduced rate. Think about what you want....

Has anyone had any success getting a long term (3 month+) rate at a Hyatt property that is better than one can get themselves with a AAA or other standard discount code? FWIW, this is a lower priced Hyatt property in the D.C. area. NOT a HP, though I am going to try them, too.

I am getting pushback when trying to achieve this, though I have stayed there several times and have been Diamond for at least 4 years in a row now. It didn't appear to me that they really tried that hard, but I am hoping to validate my experience by hearing about yours.

Thanks!
Best place to negotiate rates is with the property itself. Either the GM or Sales Manager would handle this. This is a business deal and status means zippo. In general, any deal will mean no points/credits. Depending on how other bookings are, the rates can be in the 50-60% off.

Having stayed at a property for over 30 days and not getting any type of discount even after asking I think it may be better to look for the best deal whether AAA or corporate discount number for each day. It is definitely a pain but might save you more $.

Seems to me I've read on these boards that there are long term hotels and "long term" hotels. Hyatt House, Extended Stay and Residence Inn might come under the latter heading. There is a length at which the stay or the hotel comes under different tariffs (including health laws?), I think. Some answer, I know, but perhaps it will prompt someone closer to the industry here to flesh - or knock - this out. Meantime, you may have run up against this.

You might have more success with negotiating perks rather than a greatly reduced rate. Think about what you want....

I agree, speak to the GM and negotiate. Perks like a daily complimentary laundry allowance, as well club access and other benefits could be negotiated.

I agree, speak to the GM and negotiate. Perks like a daily complimentary laundry allowance, as well club access and other benefits could be negotiated.

Well, the problem with that is that as a Hyatt Diamond, I already have pretty much all of the amenities the hotel can offer. This particular Hyatt doesn't have a HR club, so I even get free breakfast (which I am usually able to get lunch from as well). And I have eaten dinner there enough to be bored with all of the limited menu offerings.

So it's looking like I have a choice between this place or a nearby HP for about $10/night less.

I have managed to secure long term rates more than once at several different Hyatt.
The rates I got consistently price in lower than AAA and Standard discount.

FWIW (rates before taxs and fees)
HP : under 120 per day
HR : under 180 per day
PH : under 300 per day

In my experience it is often cheaper during winter than summer so rates varies. I can't speak for all locations and I often book way in advance (more than 4 months prior) so YMMV.

Has anyone had any success getting a long term (3 month+) rate at a Hyatt property that is better than one can get themselves with a AAA or other standard discount code? FWIW, this is a lower priced Hyatt property in the D.C. area. NOT a HP, though I am going to try them, too.

I am getting pushback when trying to achieve this, though I have stayed there several times and have been Diamond for at least 4 years in a row now. It didn't appear to me that they really tried that hard, but I am hoping to validate my experience by hearing about yours.

Thanks!

I have quite a bit of experience with negotiating long term rates with the DC area Hyatts. To give a bit of background I have stayed at the Hyatt House Herndon for 5 months, Hyatt Regency Bethesda for 4.5 months and I'm currently halfway through a 6 month stay at the Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes.

The only way to truly negotiate a rate is through the sales manager at the hotel. They are the only person who is going to be able to offer that rate, which is why if your plans change and you need to add extra days on either end you have to have them add them.

The way it works is they first offer you what's called their "30+ night rack rate". This typically seems to be 30-40% off the Hyatt Daily Rate. What I do to get it even farther down is I get a quote from 3 or 4 of the Hyatt's in the area (this is the Beltway so they are plentiful) then use them against each other to negotiate lower than the rack rate offered initially. For example for the current stay I called Hyatt Dulles, Hyatt Place Dulles North, Hyatt House Herndon and Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes. Of course the Hyatt Place and Hyatt house were the lowest rack rates so I called the Hyatt Dulles and Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes back and spoke to the sales managers again letting them know how I would prefer their hotel but am under pressure to keep costs down. After a feel minutes of very polite, courteous arm twisting I got the Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes down to a 60% discount from their daily rate.

Now some sales managers just won't play the game, this time the Hyatt Place Dulles North wouldn't even call me back. But if you get a sales manager who wants to fill the room for a long time period and you are staying for several months it's very possible to get 50%+ off the daily rate if you are persistent enough.

I have quite a bit of experience with negotiating long term rates with the DC area Hyatts. To give a bit of background I have stayed at the Hyatt House Herndon for 5 months, Hyatt Regency Bethesda for 4.5 months and I'm currently halfway through a 6 month stay at the Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes.

The only way to truly negotiate a rate is through the sales manager at the hotel. They are the only person who is going to be able to offer that rate, which is why if your plans change and you need to add extra days on either end you have to have them add them.

The way it works is they first offer you what's called their "30+ night rack rate". This typically seems to be 30-40% off the Hyatt Daily Rate. What I do to get it even farther down is I get a quote from 3 or 4 of the Hyatt's in the area (this is the Beltway so they are plentiful) then use them against each other to negotiate lower than the rack rate offered initially. For example for the current stay I called Hyatt Dulles, Hyatt Place Dulles North, Hyatt House Herndon and Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes. Of course the Hyatt Place and Hyatt house were the lowest rack rates so I called the Hyatt Dulles and Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes back and spoke to the sales managers again letting them know how I would prefer their hotel but am under pressure to keep costs down. After a feel minutes of very polite, courteous arm twisting I got the Hyatt Regency Fair Lakes down to a 60% discount from their daily rate.

Now some sales managers just won't play the game, this time the Hyatt Place Dulles North wouldn't even call me back. But if you get a sales manager who wants to fill the room for a long time period and you are staying for several months it's very possible to get 50%+ off the daily rate if you are persistent enough.

That sounds a lot tougher than what I do. I just call in and ask for 30+ day rates. They usually, like you said, give 30-40% off the Hyatt daily rate at the time of booking. I am fine with that, because I usually negotiate them more than 7 mths in advance.

That sounds a lot tougher than what I do. I just call in and ask for 30+ day rates. They usually, like you said, give 30-40% off the Hyatt daily rate at the time of booking. I am fine with that, because I usually negotiate them more than 7 mths in advance.

Yeah the regular 30+ night rack rate is easy. Personally I like the challenge of getting them as low as possible. And with the amount of time I spend in hotels it saves me an extra $15k to $25k per year depending on the year which is great.

Yeah the regular 30+ night rack rate is easy. Personally I like the challenge of getting them as low as possible. And with the amount of time I spend in hotels it saves me an extra $15k to $25k per year depending on the year which is great.

Because I usually call in way in advance, the rates are typically much lower then. Usually 3 months out I see the rates go up (especially for summer res) and I end up at closer to 50-70% off those rack rate because I do it early.

It also helps if you have multiple hyatt, which I don't at some locations. I've done that with different chains before (using them to drive down the prices), I was basically black listed by one hotel :(.

Do you get points for these negotiated rates?

Do you get points for these negotiated rates?

For mine: I got points, qualifying nights, and qualifying stay.

Because I usually call in way in advance, the rates are typically much lower then. Usually 3 months out I see the rates go up (especially for summer res) and I end up at closer to 50-70% off those rack rate because I do it early.

It also helps if you have multiple hyatt, which I don't at some locations. I've done that with different chains before (using them to drive down the prices), I was basically black listed by one hotel :(.

I wish I had the flexibility to book 7 months in advance, in my line of work though it can be very tough to know what part of the country you'll be in after the current contract.

Yeah that's how I negotiate is by calling several in the same area and working the against each other. If there aren't multiple Hyatts you can always involve some Marriotts for the sake of negotiation.

Do you get points for these negotiated rates?

I have always gotten full point/elite night credit for my stays. If you look at the reservation confirmation email the sales managers just put it in as a Hyatt Daily Rate which qualifies even for the promotions they run every quarter or so.

This is an interesting topic, thanks to the OP for bringing it up.

I have a question related, although slightly difference. What are your experiences with negotiating rates for suites based on some sort of yearly nights commitment, either for you personally or for your corporate?

I recently met a colleague who stays at a particular Grand Hyatt outside of the US about 150-175 nights a year. Evidently he negotiated a rate for the suite (rack is > $1500 a night) which is cheaper than the standard room rack rate (around $450 a night), gets club access, and still gets GP points. I'm sure it was done through the local hotel sales director.

I'm trying to understand what's possible and get as many data points as I can, then I'm planning to contact a specific property I frequent to put a plan in place. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

This is an interesting topic, thanks to the OP for bringing it up.

I have a question related, although slightly difference. What are your experiences with negotiating rates for suites based on some sort of yearly nights commitment, either for you personally or for your corporate?

I recently met a colleague who stays at a particular Grand Hyatt outside of the US about 150-175 nights a year. Evidently he negotiated a rate for the suite (rack is > $1500 a night) which is cheaper than the standard room rack rate (around $450 a night), gets club access, and still gets GP points. I'm sure it was done through the local hotel sales director.

I'm trying to understand what's possible and get as many data points as I can, then I'm planning to contact a specific property I frequent to put a plan in place. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

I don't have any experience negotiating a rate that way, I've only done it for continuous stays. You are giving me some good ideas though since that would be perfect for one of my employees. I'll have to check it out with the GH DC sales office.

I wish I had the flexibility to book 7 months in advance, in my line of work though it can be very tough to know what part of the country you'll be in after the current contract.

Yeah that's how I negotiate is by calling several in the same area and working the against each other. If there aren't multiple Hyatts you can always involve some Marriotts for the sake of negotiation.

I did that (not Marriott) and the result was

I was basically black listed by one hotel :(.

so I am not really willing to try that again. :o

This is an interesting topic, thanks to the OP for bringing it up.

I have a question related, although slightly difference. What are your experiences with negotiating rates for suites based on some sort of yearly nights commitment, either for you personally or for your corporate?

I recently met a colleague who stays at a particular Grand Hyatt outside of the US about 150-175 nights a year. Evidently he negotiated a rate for the suite (rack is > $1500 a night) which is cheaper than the standard room rack rate (around $450 a night), gets club access, and still gets GP points. I'm sure it was done through the local hotel sales director.

I'm trying to understand what's possible and get as many data points as I can, then I'm planning to contact a specific property I frequent to put a plan in place. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

I know of individuals who have done what you have stated (where they get suites), albeit with another hotel chain. This was due to either affiliation with the company which (directly or indirectly) owns the hotel, or has a huge corporate account with that hotel. The folks I know who get this often pay less than 50% the rack rate (for daily room) and earn points, and qualifying nights / stays

I am guessing for your colleague, is probably one of the top room nights person at that hotel, so the upgrade to the suite is more or less a perk they threw in since he is there almost 1/3 - 1/2 a year. I won't be surprised if you are talking about Asia: especially Japan. :p

I won't be surprised if you are talking about Asia: especially Japan. :p

Bingo. You win.

Bingo. You win.

What's my prize? ;)

PS: I think just checked out from said hotel yesterday! :D

What's my prize? ;)

A million GP points of course.

Check's in the mail.

A million GP points of course.

Check's in the mail.

Sweet! Now I can stay in a suite at the PHT for a month! :D

PS: I am also guessing that your company, probably already has a strong corporate relationship with the hotel as well: possibly because they share the same compound. This link is another means of mutual beneficial relationships that I have heard of between companies and hotels.