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txrandom
Apr 25, 12, 9:55 am
I'm taking a trip from London to Amsterdam via the DutchFlyer. I'll need to take the train from London Liverpool to Harwich International. Part of the journey is by bus according to the NationalRail site due to engineering between Liverpool and Seven Sisters. Here's the warning (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/en838b45233e42d4b46f6c7624a4fe56/details.html). Do I still get on the train at Liverpool station or somewhere else? If I need to take a bus, will they have employees directing people? Do you think this will cause a significant delay in the overall journey time? I'm not too familiar with the train system, so thanks for the help.


mtkeller
Apr 25, 12, 10:11 am
It appears that they haven't yet loaded the details of how that journey will be handled, other than indicating that it's impacted. (I'm basing this off the "The changes to Greater Anglia are not currently shown in the National Rail Enquiries Journey Planner, please check back nearer to the time of travel." bit at the bottom.) I'd wait until closer to the date to find out exactly what's going on and what alternative plans they've made for those with tickets for that service. Most likely they'll offer a bus from London Liverpool Street to wherever trains are actually running, as it appears that most of the route you'll be on should not be impacted

Oh, it's London Liverpool Street. Referring to "Liverpool Station" might make someone think that you're boarding a train to/from Liverpool.

Aviatrix
Apr 25, 12, 10:39 am
The link you posted says nothing about trains to Harwich - it's just talking about the other line out of Liverpool Street (the one going North to Stansted/Bishop's Stortford/Cambridge). Shouldn't affect your journey at all.


mtkeller
Apr 25, 12, 10:50 am
The link you posted says nothing about trains to Harwich - it's just talking about the other line out of Liverpool Street (the one going North to Stansted/Bishop's Stortford/Cambridge). Shouldn't affect your journey at all.
If you put London Liverpool Street to Harwich International into the journey planner, it does come up with that warning and a "bus service" note, however. It may be that all of that TOC's services for that weekend have been flagged until they load their engineering work timetable.

txrandom
Apr 25, 12, 10:52 am
Ahh, assuming the Harwich train goes through Colchester, it looks like that line isn't even affected. I'll check back in a couple weeks when I buy the actual ticket and confirm. Thanks for the help.

Aviatrix
Apr 25, 12, 11:07 am
If you put London Liverpool Street to Harwich International into the journey planner, it does come up with that warning and a "bus service" note, however. It may be that all of that TOC's services for that weekend have been flagged until they load their engineering work timetable.

Then the journey planner is wrong.... :-)

If you look at the map it's quite clear that it's on the other line - the one that turns off to the North at Bethnal Green. I think the worst the OP can expect are some minor delays due to congestion between Liverpool Street and Stratford (Cambridge/Stansted trains are being diverted via Stratford, so there will be twice the usual number of trains going that way)

txrandom
Apr 25, 12, 1:46 pm
Thanks again everyone for the help. One other question, does anyone know if DutchFlyer tickets can be bought one the day of travel for £69 (incl cabin)? Is it likely that the single cabins may sell out? I travel standby and would rather wait until the last minute since refunds aren't allowed.

stut
Apr 25, 12, 3:12 pm
Depends when. There aren't actually any physically single cabins - they are just twin cabins with one bed folded up - but I've travelled on the ferries a few times where only disabled or premium cabins have been left. These are typically around peak school/public holiday times.

You can travel on the day, but I'd do a test booking with Stena to check the costs. However, the easiest way is generally to book directly with Stena online or by phone, and I believe they'll refund your train fare when you pick up your tickets at the ferry terminal.

Mizter T
Apr 26, 12, 3:27 am
Oh, it's London Liverpool Street. Referring to "Liverpool Station" might make someone think that you're boarding a train to/from Liverpool.

Please do take note of this! This side of the pond, Oxford Street is Oxford Street, Oxford Circus is Oxford Circus and Oxford is Oxford - I know of a non-apocryphal case of Americans ending up in Oxford (i.e. the city) when they just wanted to get from somewhere in central London to Oxford Street.

(The fact that one of the super-frequent coach services between London and Oxford is called the "Oxford Tube" almost certainly didn't help - I think it's a great brand and it's very well known, but I suppose it does has the downside of causing potential confusion! Of course the intention is to allude to the frequency of the real Tube i.e. London Underground.)

thijsseh
Apr 27, 12, 8:23 am
Depends when. There aren't actually any physically single cabins - they are just twin cabins with one bed folded up - but I've travelled on the ferries a few times where only disabled or premium cabins have been left. These are typically around peak school/public holiday times.

You can travel on the day, but I'd do a test booking with Stena to check the costs. However, the easiest way is generally to book directly with Stena online or by phone, and I believe they'll refund your train fare when you pick up your tickets at the ferry terminal.

I happen to have done this check this morning. It looks like you can book for the next day, but the fare is higher than for next week (by around 20 pounds each if I remember correctly).



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