I have a noonish Saturday flight coming up out of EWR. While I live two blocks from the Christopher Street Path Station I've never done Path to Newark Penn Station and then onto NJT to EWR. Time wise it looks about the same and $4.50 cheaper plus I would avoid Penn Station (which I hate).
To make this worthwhile I would have about 15-20 minutes to transfer at Newark Penn Station, including stopping at a kiosk to buy a ticket for NJT. This seems doable and fairly easy but if anyone has personal experience it would be appreciated. I've never been inside the Newark Penn train station.
nerd
Apr 23, 12, 12:48 pm
That is plenty of time. Transferring there is not unlike transferring platforms at a larger NYC subway station - go down the stairs, walk over to the next set, and walk back up.
themicah
Apr 23, 12, 1:09 pm
Note that you'll have to take two PATH trains as Christopher St. and Newark Penn are served by different lines. Not a big deal to switch, though.
Also note that you can take the #62 local bus from Newark Penn to EWR instead of taking NJT and the monorail. It's slow and can get very crowded, but is much cheaper and can take the same amount of time overall if you have to wait a while for the next train:
Yes, this should be easy. When you walk down the stairs from the PATH platform (follow the signs to "station"), there are NJT ticket machines in the hallway at the bottom. All of the stairways to the train platforms are located along that hallway, as are screens listing the trains/platforms. Get your ticket, find your new platform, and walk back up. It's just like NY Penn, only upside down :)
FlyinHawaiian
Apr 23, 12, 1:38 pm
Note that you'll have to take two PATH trains as Christopher St. and Newark Penn are served by different lines. Not a big deal to switch, though.
Since it's a weekend, doesn't all PATH trains from NYC make you stop in Hoboken? That would add a little additional time to make that extra stop before transferring to the Newark train at Grove St. or Journal Square.
kwildnj
Apr 23, 12, 1:55 pm
Will you be near Penn Station (NY) anytime between now and Saturday? If so, to save the time purchasing the ticket, you could buy it in advance. If not, not a big deal.
From Christopher Street, take PATH to Grove Street (Train will First go to Hoboken on Weekends). Once you arrive at Grove St, you will transfer to a Newark Bound Train. Generally, the trains are held for seemless connections, but at most you should have to wait 5 minutes.
Once you get to Newark Penn Station, as others have discussed, you have two options.
The NJ Transit #62 Bus
(Schedule Here: http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0062.pdf)
Leaves from the bus lanes outside of Newark Penn Station, will run down Broad Street in Newark to Route 21, to the Airport Entrance. The trip is 5 miles, and you will be dropped in front of your Terminal.
Fare is either 1.50 Exact Change or a 1 Zone Bus Ticket Purchased From Within the Station.
Estimated Travel time from Newark Penn To TERMINAL is 15-20 Minutes
NJ Transit Northeast Corridor or NorthJersey Coast Line
(Schedule Here: http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/R0070.pdf)
Leaves from Track 3 or 4 at Newark Penn Station, and Newark Airport will be the first stop. You will then need to transfer to the AirTrain to your terminal.
Fare is 8.25.
Estimated Travel Time from Newark Penn to TERMINAL is 15-25 Minutes
themicah
Apr 23, 12, 1:56 pm
Since it's a weekend, doesn't all PATH trains from NYC make you stop in Hoboken? That would add a little additional time to make that extra stop before transferring to the Newark train at Grove St. or Journal Square.
I think that's right. Here's the map and times when the various routes run:
http://www.panynj.gov/path/maps-schedules.html
newyorkgeorge
Apr 23, 12, 2:04 pm
I think that's right. Here's the map and times when the various routes run:
http://www.panynj.gov/path/maps-schedules.html
I factored that in the timing. Taking the train from NY Penn you have to be there at least 15 minutes before boarding to buy a ticket and wait for boarding to be called when seems to vary between 7-12 minutes out. Its crowded and noisey, particularly on a Saturday morning with drunks that are just finally going home.
At Christopher Street I can show up a few minutes before the train, its very quite in the station (which is always much cleaner than the subway) and there is seating until the train arrives.
Blumie
Apr 23, 12, 8:51 pm
Please allow me to hijack this thread:
Heading to EWR from 23rd and 6th, am I better off taking the PATH to Newark and connecting to NJT, or just walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT?
kwildnj
Apr 23, 12, 9:29 pm
Please allow me to hijack this thread:
Heading to EWR from 23rd and 6th, am I better off taking the PATH to Newark and connecting to NJT, or just walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT?
As far as timewise, NJ Transit will get you a two seat ride from Penn Station to your Terminal in as short as 40 minutes. Cost is 12.50.
PATH will add about 15 to 20 minutes to your trip, but if you choose to connect to the Bus in Newark Penn, it will cost you only 3.50.
I am assuming if you would be willing to walk from 23rd to New York Penn, that you will not have a ton of luggage, so ease of use is about the same.
I guess the question you need to ask yourself is if 20 or so minutes is worth 9.00. Also, take a look at the schedules which I linked to in a previous post.
Blumie
Apr 24, 12, 7:09 am
Please allow me to hijack this thread:
Heading to EWR from 23rd and 6th, am I better off taking the PATH to Newark and connecting to NJT, or just walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT?
As far as timewise, NJ Transit will get you a two seat ride from Penn Station to your Terminal in as short as 40 minutes. Cost is 12.50.
PATH will add about 15 to 20 minutes to your trip, but if you choose to connect to the Bus in Newark Penn, it will cost you only 3.50.
I am assuming if you would be willing to walk from 23rd to New York Penn, that you will not have a ton of luggage, so ease of use is about the same.
I guess the question you need to ask yourself is if 20 or so minutes is worth 9.00. Also, take a look at the schedules which I linked to in a previous post.Sorry, I should have been more clear: I'm only concerned with the time it takes, not with the cost or the ease of transporting luggage. So it sounds like, even though I avoid the 10 block walk to Penn Station, taking the Path (two trains) to Newark followed by NJT is longer than walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT. Correct?
Analise
Apr 24, 12, 7:25 am
I factored that in the timing. Taking the train from NY Penn you have to be there at least 15 minutes before boarding to buy a ticket and wait for boarding to be called when seems to vary between 7-12 minutes out. Its crowded and noisey, particularly on a Saturday morning with drunks that are just finally going home.As an FYI, on a Saturday morning, just wait for the train on the subway level, not upstairs. There will be very few people there as only commuters know to do this to escape the day trippers on weekends.
Please allow me to hijack this thread:
Heading to EWR from 23rd and 6th, am I better off taking the PATH to Newark and connecting to NJT, or just walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT?Make it easy for yourself. Walk to Penn. Not even 10 minutes. Why wait for a PATH, to wait for another PATH, to wait for a NJ Transit train? Plus the PATH is a longer ride to Newark Penn than a Transit train is.
Blumie
Apr 24, 12, 7:29 am
Make it easy for yourself. Walk to Penn. Not even 10 minutes. Why wait for a PATH, to wait for another PATH, to wait for a NJ Transit train? Plus the PATH is a longer ride to Newark Penn than a Transit train is.Both are plenty easy. The only thing I care about is which is faster, door-to-door.
Make it easy for yourself. Walk to Penn. Not even 10 minutes. Why wait for a PATH, to wait for another PATH, to wait for a NJ Transit train? Plus the PATH is a longer ride to Newark Penn than a Transit train is.Both are plenty easy. The only thing I care about is which is faster, door-to-door.
If your only concern is door-to-door time, then it gets tricky. You have to factor in the walk to Penn, the NJ Transit schedule, the PATH schedule, and (perhaps) the #62 bus schedule. You also have to consider which terminal you are headed to at EWR. The #62 bus stops at Terminal A first; Terminal C last. The EWR AirTrain stops at Terminal C first; Terminal A last.
Depending on time of day, a taxi down 7th Avenue and through the Holland Tunnel might even be faster, but that's far less predictable.
sbm12
Apr 24, 12, 9:09 am
I factored that in the timing. Taking the train from NY Penn you have to be there at least 15 minutes before boarding to buy a ticket and wait for boarding to be called when seems to vary between 7-12 minutes out.
I've frequently arrived at NYP less than 5 minutes from scheduled departure time and made the train to EWR. Absolutely no reason to show up 15 minutes in advance if you know how to use the ticket machines and how to find a track number.
RooseveltL
Apr 24, 12, 9:44 am
From Midtown West side
EASY - NJ Transit (2 seats to terminal)
EASIEST - Bus Olympia I think from 34th Street which is a 1 seat ride but cost more
CHEAPEST - Path to #62 bus. Path requires two train switch and wait/board bus downstairs but should get a seat.
If I were taking the Path I would NOT switch to NJ Transit in NWK-PA Station as that would make it a 4 mode of transportation change (Path-JSQ>Path-NWK>NJT>AirTrain) to get to your terminal. Just inconvienant at that point.
Check schedule to verify no waiting on whatever method chosen.
Analise
Apr 24, 12, 12:32 pm
Both are plenty easy. The only thing I care about is which is faster, door-to-door.If it's time that matters, walk to Penn and enter at 31st & 7th which is the NJ Transit side. You know what time the train will leave and when it will arrive at EWR. Otherwise, you've got to wait for two PATH trains and maybe sit awhile in Journal Square before it leaves for Newark Penn and then wait for the NJ Transit train. This is a lot of waiting IMHO.
We've done the PATH route during rush hour and on weekends when we've gone to Rangers/Devils games in Newark. Even at rush hour, the PATH will sit at Journal Square...more so during the weekends.
EASIEST - Bus Olympia I think from 34th Street which is a 1 seat ride but cost more
Correction: The Olympia Trails bus makes three stops along 42nd Street: Port Authority Bus Terminal, Bryant Part and Grand Central Terminal
CHEAPEST - Path to #62 bus. Path requires two train switch and wait/board bus downstairs but should get a seat. For clarity, it will require two trains, and one transfer at Grove St or Journal Square. On either the same, or immediate opposite platform.
If I were taking the Path I would NOT switch to NJ TransitA NJ Transit Train would require an additional transfer to the Air Train. A NJ Transit Bus would not in NWK-PA Station as that would make it a 4 mode of transportation change (Path-JSQ>Path-NWK>NJT>AirTrain) to get to your terminal. Just inconvienant at that point. Plus it quickly dilutes any monetary benefit of doing so.
Check schedule to verify no waiting on whatever method chosen.
If it's time that matters, walk to Penn and enter at 31st & 7th which is the NJ Transit side. You know what time the train will leave and when it will arrive at EWR. Otherwise, you've got to wait for two PATH trains and maybe sit awhile in Journal Square before it leaves for Newark Penn and then wait for the NJ Transit train. This is a lot of waiting IMHO.
We've done the PATH route during rush hour and on weekends when we've gone to Rangers/Devils games in Newark. Even at rush hour, the PATH will sit at Journal Square...more so during the weekends. I do not know how long youbwere waiting at Journal Square, but I have never waited more than just a minute or two between trains. I believe they are timed for easy connections.
Analise
Apr 25, 12, 3:36 pm
kwildnj, the delays at Journal Square varied. It could be anywhere from 1-10 minutes. I meant to add that the wait was always going to Newark, never from Newark.
AAerSTL
Apr 25, 12, 4:53 pm
Please allow me to hijack this thread:
Heading to EWR from 23rd and 6th, am I better off taking the PATH to Newark and connecting to NJT, or just walking to NY Penn Station to catch NJT?