Diners Club Club Rewards - List of Diners Club USA transfer partners and ratios (2012).




newsmanhoss
Apr 10, 12, 8:36 pm
If anyone can help, I would be greatly appreciative.

A friend owes me some miles/points, and wants to transfer them to me from his Club Rewards account.

But, I can't find a list of transfer partners online. I'm particularly interested in the airline partners. Does anyone have a list?

Also, is there a fee to transfer the points?

I would ask him these questions, but he's not a miles/points hound, so I might get better info here. I did a search of this board, but nothing really turned up.

Thanks!


mia
Apr 11, 12, 6:05 am
Unless otherwise indicated the Diners Club USA to partner transfer ratio is 1000:1000.

OneWorld: British Airways.

SkyTeam: Delta Airlines, Korean Air.

Star Alliance:Air Canada, SAS, South African Airways, Thai Airways.

Independent: Alaska Airlines, El Al Airlines, (1000:20), Eva Airways, Frontier Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Iceland Air, Southwest Airlines (1500:1200), Virgin Atlantic.

Hotels: Best Western (1250:3300), Choice (1250:2400), Hilton (1250:2000), Hyatt (1250:750), Intercontinental Group (1250:1500), Marriott (1250:1500), Starwood (1250:750).

Rail: Amtrak.

USA Corporate accounts can also transfer to American Airlines.

newsmanhoss
Apr 11, 12, 8:19 am
Thanks, mia!

Looks like a pretty robust list of partners.

I've been waiting for a while to see if there are any transfer promos. Seems as though they are pretty rare.


Phlee
Apr 13, 12, 2:55 pm
Hi,

I'm having a hard time finding the transfer ratios for DC points into FF program miles. Is it always 1:1? Is there a website or online resource where I can look this up?

Thanks
ph

mia
Apr 14, 12, 4:58 am
In which country is your Diners Club card issued? The transfer rates are published in the online redemption catalog. Canadian and USA cardholders must login to see this information.

In the USA program the airline transfers are 1000:1000 for those programs denominated in "miles". It varies for airlines which use points or other units. The hotel transfers are in multiples of 1250, ranging from a low of 1250:750 for Hyatt and Starwood to a high of 1250:3300 for Best Western.

Phlee
Apr 14, 12, 3:01 pm
Hi Mia,

Thanks for the info.
I am interested mainly in the US conversion rates but also in the Canadian or any other rates.

The reason I ask is that we have a tool that calculates and compares frequent flyer rates across multiple programs and we are now ready to add the transfer comparison as well.

You can [discuss] the tool here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools/1310997-centralized-look-up-comparison-tool-flight-award-rates-milez-biz.html

On the results page there is going to be a "transfer rate" button that will show how many points/miles need to be transferred for a specific award flight w/ a specific FF program.

We have the SPG and a bunch of Amex rates ready, but don't have any DC rates. The rates tables are only available to members?

Thanks
ph

sdsearch
Apr 14, 12, 3:43 pm
but don't have any DC rates. The rates tables are only available to members?
Not only that, they can vary from member to member!!! :eek:

Well, at least the transfer choices can vary from member type to member type. Speicficially, the one I know about: Corporate DC members in the US can still transfer to AA, but personal DC cardmembers in the US no longer can.

Thus it's not even possible to have just one conversion chart for all US DC members (at least not without footnotes)!

And, by the way, in case you're not aware, no one in the US/Canada who isn't already a personal DC cardholder can become one. For several years now, DC US/Canada has not been taking new personal card applications, and we haven't yet heard of definite plans to restart those on any particular date.

Which makes it all the less value (other than for pure curiosity purposes) for them to publicly publsh the conversion rates.

Phlee
Apr 14, 12, 9:11 pm
Thanks sdsearch for this info.
In your experience do many DC cardholders transfer points to FF programs? Or is this a relatively unusual practice?

ph

sdsearch
Apr 15, 12, 3:55 pm
In your experience do many DC cardholders transfer points to FF programs? Or is this a relatively unusual practice?
ph
Well, the only other DC cardholders I know are the ones here on FT, and they may not be representative of the whole membership. However, most of us here ceratinly either transfer to FF (airline) programs or to hotel programs. (I, in particular, have found it especially valuable for some hotel programs in which I have few opportunities to earn points other than from occasional stays or DC transfers, because they don't have shopping or dining programs like airlines do, and because I can't earn miles from stays in hotels to another hotel program the way I can to a choice of airline programs.)

A common use of DC transfers, I would think, is to top off when you don't have quite enough for an award (either in an airline program or at a hotel program). That (rather than staritng from 0 and transfering the full amount needed for an award) is I think how I've always used mine to date. I tend to leave as many points as I can for unanticipated top-off needs myself (rather than transferring out everything I have as soon as I have it).

mia
Apr 16, 12, 8:21 am
I have merged two threads and updated post #2 to include the details of the transfer ratios. All airlines transfer 1000:1000 except El Al and Southwest.

mbflyflyaway
Apr 19, 12, 1:17 pm
Rail: Amtrak.

The transfer fee to airlines is $0.95 (or 95 points) per 1,000. No fee for transfers to hotel programs.

Just one point - there is also no fee to transfer to Amtrak. To me, this is the best value for my points now as my family loves to take train trips when possible.

starflyer
Apr 19, 12, 7:34 pm
The transfer fee to airlines is $0.95 (or 95 points) per 1,000. No fee for transfers to hotel programs.
Ouch, I thought this fee went away when Diners Club moved to BMO. I tried a transfer to Aeroplan today and wasn't charged a a $0.95 fee. I wonder why they're still charging you this fee. :confused:

mia
Apr 20, 12, 9:22 am
... I thought this fee went away when Diners Club moved to BMO.

I think you are correct. I have not transferred points recently, and I no longer see any reference to the excise tax recovery fee ^ .

sdsearch
Apr 20, 12, 10:54 am
Ouch, I thought this fee went away when Diners Club moved to BMO. I tried a transfer to Aeroplan today and wasn't charged a a $0.95 fee. I wonder why they're still charging you this fee. :confused:

I think you are correct. I have not transferred points recently, and I no longer see any reference to the excise tax recovery fee ^ .

I thought the transfer fee was always only for US-based airlines, and for example did not apply to BA even in the Citi days? (Or am I getting it confused with Avis? I do know that Avis' FFP fees only apply to US-based airlines, and I though that Diners' fees were for a similar reason.)

If so, an example of a transfer to Aeroplan (which is a Canadian airline) doesn't by itself necessarily prove things have changed.

mia
Apr 20, 12, 11:05 am
I thought the transfer fee was always only for US-based airlines

That's the way American Express Membership Rewards is structured, but Diners had collected it on (for example) transfers to BA.

RichG
Apr 26, 12, 8:00 pm
I just got a mailing from Amex plugging their promotion for 50% bonus for transferring MR points to BA Avois before the end of May. Diners used to run BA promos almost every year, and it's been a while now. HOW ABOUT IT, DC/BOM???:confused:

FSU
Apr 26, 12, 8:33 pm
Do points transfers have to be in the same name as the cardholder?

mia
Apr 27, 12, 7:36 am
Do points transfers have to be in the same name as the cardholder?

When operated by Citi, Club Rewards was very liberal allowing transfers to most airline or hotel partners without regard to name. However, there were always exceptions. See this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diners-club-club-rewards/472233-mileage-transfers-accounts-other-than-mine.html

See also this recent report about a Hyatt transfer which failed due to a name mismatch. What is noteworthy about this incident is not that it failed, but that it took a long while for Diners to figure out the reason. This suggests that even if you were to ask, they may not know which partners require a name match:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diners-club-club-rewards/1326972-transfer-hyatt-not-posting.html

GrizShel
May 23, 12, 9:00 am
Can someone post a link as to where to do DC points to airline miles or Hotel points redemptions can be made online? I've spent 30 minutes on the site trying to find it and no luck so far (I could only find their advertising a Avios and an Aeroplan promo). When I login on the Club rewards page it takes me to credit card account management which has no apparent link to Club rewards redemptions.

...and the site keeps on asking me to login again after I have already logged in.

mia
May 23, 12, 9:12 am
Go to: dinersclubus.com
Login
Click: Tools > Club Rewards
Loads: clubrewardsus.com
Click: Travel Rewards > Points to Miles
Click: Partner program logo

You must use the pull-down menu on the right to redeem in predefined increments. For example, if wanted to redeem 25,000 points you would add 20,000 to the basket and then 5,000. You could choose 1,000 and order "25", but then you would have to fill-in your frequent flyer number and birthdate 25 times.

pdb
May 29, 12, 3:28 pm
I just got a mailing from Amex plugging their promotion for 50% bonus for transferring MR points to BA Avois before the end of May. Diners used to run BA promos almost every year, and it's been a while now. HOW ABOUT IT, DC/BOM???:confused:

FYI: The DC 50% bonus promotion for BA Avios runs through 30-Jun-12.

https://www.clubrewardsus.com/consumermx/item/editNewViewItem.htm?tsys=MXRNMlk3QUR5Vnh4cTBualF4Y k1KVG9UY0JFNllSQ0hPNW1HOFM4QlE0dHZ5NWpRUXlsNG5tQXZ kVHFLTjhYbg

DC does not do a very good job of communicating.

mia
May 29, 12, 3:47 pm
DC does not do a very good job of communicating.

Also mentioned in this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diners-club-club-rewards/1342028-diners-usa-ba-50-transfer-bonus-6-30-2012-a.html

iheartwiki
Aug 7, 12, 6:31 pm
it seems diner's club has only been getting rid of airlines over the years - with the new owner, do you guys expect them to actually add airlines? I've been flying primarily with united/continental and it would help so much if I could somehow get United/Continental mileage for my diner's points. Any slick way of doing it perhaps? like transferring to one thing then another thing then to united? or am I really out of luck on this one? any thoughts appreciated

mia
Aug 8, 12, 9:45 am
When Citibank switched the Canadian and USA-issued cards to MasterCard network several airlines, including UA, left Club Rewards. It is likely that Chase's contract with UA precludes any other MasterCard or VISA card issuer from offering UA miles. I do not foresee that this will change.

You can transfer Club Rewards points to any Star Alliance airline and redeem for travel on every Star Alliance airline, including UA. (This does not mean that you can transfer miles between Star Alliance member program, you must redeem according to the requirements of the program which holds the miles, not the airline operating the flights. ) The Star Alliance transfer partners are:Air Canada, SAS, South African Airways, Thai Airways.

sdsearch
Aug 8, 12, 4:35 pm
I've been flying primarily with united/continental and it would help so much if I could somehow get United/Continental mileage for my diner's points. Any slick way of doing it perhaps? like transferring to one thing then another thing then to united? or am I really out of luck on this one? any thoughts appreciated
First of all, many people (including myself) find it useful to collect miles with other airlines than the one I fly the most. Eventually there's probably someplace you want to go that your alliance doesn't fly to. (If your alliance wasn't already Star Alliance, that would be the case for Norway, where beyond OSL which all 3 alliances serve and one or two of the biggest cities beyond that that Sky Team also serves via KLM, only SAS and thus Star Alliance serves most cities in Norway. And I'm sure there are other places in the world where oneworld and/or Sky Team can get you there but Star Alliance can't.)

Second, if you do want all your miles in Star Alliance, Diners Club will only transfer without devluation to others (not UA/CO itself, but UA/CO partners), that you can then use to redeem for UA/CO if you want (and/or other Star Alliance airlines), as mia suggested.

While you can transfer Diners Club to UA by a roundabout method, by transferring to a hotel program first and then transferring from the hotel program to UA, there's severe loss of value incurred there (compared to any airline that Diners does support directly).

Anyway, do you really need only miles and no hotel points? I find Diners particularly useful, since so many airlines dropped out after it became a MasterCard, to transfer to hotel programs rather than airlines. But not for the purpose of transferring onward to airlines, since as I said, that's very "lossy". Rather, for the actual stays, when I run into a city somewhere where cash rates are high, where only one hotel program is represented, and where I don't have much in the way of points in that hotel program yet.

Compare the list of airlines and hotels below and see if you don't agree that it's a much better list of hotels than of airlines (for you):

Unless otherwise indicated the Diners Club USA to partner transfer ratio is 1000:1000.

OneWorld: British Airways.

SkyTeam: Delta Airlines, Korean Air.

Star Alliance:Air Canada, SAS, South African Airways, Thai Airways.

Independent: Alaska Airlines, El Al Airlines, (1000:20), Eva Airways, Frontier Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Iceland Air, Southwest Airlines (1500:1200), Virgin Atlantic.

Hotels: Best Western (1250:3300), Choice (1250:2400), Hilton (1250:2000), Hyatt (1250:750), Intercontinental Group (1250:1500), Marriott (1250:1500), Starwood (1250:750).

Rail: Amtrak.

USA Corporate accounts can also transfer to American Airlines.



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