Other Middle East and Africa Frequent Flyer Programs - SAA announces service to MUB - award avail?

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9370216.htm

Any idea as to when this route will show up in the ANA Tool, KVS, etc. for award availability searches?

I can't speak for SAA, but when Ethiopian joined Star Alliance, I was seeing KVS reward availability November / December 2011 (for fall 2012) well before they had "officially" joined and put Star Alliance logos all over their websites.

Unless the reward availability is going to be limited / restricted, my guess is it would likely be loaded already.

I can't speak for SAA, but when Ethiopian joined Star Alliance, I was seeing KVS reward availability November / December 2011 (for fall 2012) well before they had "officially" joined and put Star Alliance logos all over their websites.

Unless the reward availability is going to be limited / restricted, my guess is it would likely be loaded already.

It's not showing up online anywhere. You can't even buy tickets on the SAA website yet.

Any idea as to when this route will show up in the ANA Tool, KVS, etc. for award availability searches?

I can't speak for SAA, but when Ethiopian joined Star Alliance, I was seeing KVS reward availability November / December 2011 (for fall 2012) well before they had "officially" joined and put Star Alliance logos all over their websites.

Unless the reward availability is going to be limited / restricted, my guess is it would likely be loaded already.

It's not showing up online anywhere. You can't even buy tickets on the SAA website yet.

The schedules have already been loaded. However, it may take awhile for the various front-end systems to be updated with the MUB Airport Code. Until then, it would not be possible to check Award Availability on that route.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.8/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
JNB Johannesburg OR Tambo Intl ZA [FAJS]
MUB (Airport Code)
MON 11 Jun 2012 - 18 Jun 2012

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------
BP 212 JNB 10:10 MUB 11:50 146 0 1234567 01:40 A - 30 Nov 30 Nov
SA/4Z 8300 JNB 11:45 MUB 13:15 ER3 0 1---567 01:30 B - 15 Jun 26 Oct Mon 11 Jun
BP 216 JNB 13:00 MUB 15:00 AT5 0 1-3--6- 02:00 A - 30 Nov 30 Nov

Thanks KVS - your tool is the 1st place I looked.

Any update on this topic?? Flights have been available JNB-MUB for purchase for several months... but still no awards showing. Thoughts? Advice?

What are the current rules? As an Indian passport holder, do i need a visa for SA (even if i just transit thru JNB en route to Bots)????

Thanks a lot.

What are the current rules? As an Indian passport holder, do i need a visa for SA (even if i just transit thru JNB en route to Bots)????

Yes, you do:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - TIMATIC: Visa/Entry Requirements] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
National India (IN) /Embarkation India (IN)
Transit South Africa (ZA) /Destination Botswana (BW)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] South Africa (ZA)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Those passengers continuing their
journey through O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB) to a
third country other than Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique,
Namibia, Swaziland or Zimbabwe and:
- not leaving the international transit area; and
- holding confirmed onward tickets.
- Note: limited hotel accommodation is available in the
transit area of O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB).
Advance notice of an overnight stay is required.
Additional Information:
- Deportees:[[TIDFT/ZA/PA/AI/ID30605]]
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.



[Health Information] South Africa (ZA)

Vaccination against yellow fever is required if arriving
within 10 days from Sao Tome and Principe, Somalia, Tanzania,
Zambia or countries with risk of yellow fever transmission.
[[TIRGL/YFIN]]

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Transit passengers not leaving the airport in South Africa.
- Those not leaving the plane during transit in the countries
with risk of yellow fever transmission concerned
[[TIRGL/YFIN]] or Zambia.
- Those holding an exception certificate due to medical
reasons may be allowed entry and will be required to report
any fever or other symptoms to the health authorities and be
placed under surveillance.
- Babies under 12 months are allowed to travel without a
yellow fever vaccination certificate, provided a medical
certificate can be submitted stating that it is undesirable
to inoculate the baby.

[Visa Information - Destination] Botswana (BW)

[Information For Normal Passports]
Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.

Visa required.

Additional Information:
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.
- Visitors wishing to stay in Botswana for more than 90 days
[[TIDFT/BW/VI/AI/ID29911]]
Warning:
- Visitors not holding return/onward tickets could be refused
entry.



[Health Information] Botswana (BW)

Vaccination against Yellow Fever required, if arriving within
6 days after leaving or transiting countries with risk of
yellow fever transmission [[TIRGL/YFIN]].

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Those not leaving the airport in the yellow fever risk
countries concerned.
- Children under 1 year of age.
- Transit passengers not leaving the airport.
Recommended:
- Malaria prophylaxis. Malaria risk - mainly in the malignant
(P. falciparum) form - exists from November to May/June in
the northern parts of the country: Boteti, Chobe, Ngamiland,
Okavango, Tutume districts/ subdistricts. Chloroquine
resistant P. falciparum reported. Recommended prevention in
risk areas: IV.

CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC and PARALYMPIC GAMES
(INCL. ADDITIONAL INFO FOR IRELAND (REP. OF))

06 Aug 2012 / 18:43 [UTC]

Ok. Thanks a lot.

KVS,

Going by that note - the "Transit without Visa" will be acceptable, if I am in transit in JNB en route to India? even if I fly in from Maun?

What if I get to Bots via Nairobi? and then fly out to JNB and then back to India?

Thanks

Going by that note - the "Transit without Visa" will be acceptable, if I am in transit in JNB en route to India? even if I fly in from Maun?

That should work:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - TIMATIC: Visa/Entry Requirements] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
National India (IN) /Embarkation Botswana (BW)
Transit South Africa (ZA) /Destination India (IN)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] South Africa (ZA)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Those passengers continuing their
journey through O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB) to a
third country other than Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique,
Namibia, Swaziland or Zimbabwe and:
- not leaving the international transit area; and
- holding confirmed onward tickets.
- Note: limited hotel accommodation is available in the
transit area of O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB).
Advance notice of an overnight stay is required.
Additional Information:
- Deportees:[[TIDFT/ZA/PA/AI/ID30605]]
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.



[Health Information] South Africa (ZA)

Vaccination against yellow fever is required if arriving
within 10 days from Sao Tome and Principe, Somalia, Tanzania,
Zambia or countries with risk of yellow fever transmission.
[[TIRGL/YFIN]]

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Transit passengers not leaving the airport in South Africa.
- Those not leaving the plane during transit in the countries
with risk of yellow fever transmission concerned
[[TIRGL/YFIN]] or Zambia.
- Those holding an exception certificate due to medical
reasons may be allowed entry and will be required to report
any fever or other symptoms to the health authorities and be
placed under surveillance.
- Babies under 12 months are allowed to travel without a
yellow fever vaccination certificate, provided a medical
certificate can be submitted stating that it is undesirable
to inoculate the baby.

[Visa Information - Destination] India (IN)

[Information For Normal Passports]
Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.
Passport Exemptions:
- Holders of an Emergency Identity Certificate issued to
nationals of India.

VISA NOT REQUIRED.

Additional Information:
- Nationals of India holding double nationality,
[[TIDFT/IN/PA/AI/ID30614]]



[Health Information] India (IN)

Vaccination against Yellow Fever is required (SEE NOTE 6268),
if arriving within 6 days after leaving or transiting
countries with risk of yellow fever transmission [[TIRGL/YFIN]]
or Zambia.
NOTE 6268: Passengers failing to present a valid Yellow
Fever certificate (if required) are subject to quarantine
(for max. 6 days) and to pay costs involved. Quarantine
facilities are only available at Dehli (DEL), Chennai (MAA)
and Mumbai (BOM). At other aiports passengers will be
deported. NOTE: Carrier will be charged when passenger
refuses to pay.

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Except for passengers transiting India by the same aircraft.
- Exempt are all children under 9 months of age.
Recommended:
- Malaria prophylaxis. Malaria risk exists throughout the year
in the whole country below 2000 m. (with 40% to 50% of cases
due to P. falciparum). There is no transmission in parts of
the states of Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir and Sikkim.
Highly chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine-resistant
P. falciparum reported.
Recommended prevention in risk areas: III. In Assam: IV.

CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC and PARALYMPIC GAMES
- REMINDER OF CHANGES TO ACCEPTANCE OF OIAC FROM 13 AUGUST

08 Aug 2012 / 21:59 [UTC]

What if I get to Bots via Nairobi? and then fly out to JNB and then back to India?

That should work also:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - TIMATIC: Visa/Entry Requirements] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
National India (IN) /Embarkation Kenya (KE)
Transit South Africa (ZA) /Destination India (IN)
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] South Africa (ZA)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Those passengers continuing their
journey through O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB) to a
third country other than Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique,
Namibia, Swaziland or Zimbabwe and:
- not leaving the international transit area; and
- holding confirmed onward tickets.
- Note: limited hotel accommodation is available in the
transit area of O.R. Tambo International Airport (JNB).
Advance notice of an overnight stay is required.
Additional Information:
- Deportees:[[TIDFT/ZA/PA/AI/ID30605]]
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.



[Health Information] South Africa (ZA)

Vaccination against yellow fever is required if arriving
within 10 days from Sao Tome and Principe, Somalia, Tanzania,
Zambia or countries with risk of yellow fever transmission.
[[TIRGL/YFIN]]

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Transit passengers not leaving the airport in South Africa.
- Those not leaving the plane during transit in the countries
with risk of yellow fever transmission concerned
[[TIRGL/YFIN]] or Zambia.
- Those holding an exception certificate due to medical
reasons may be allowed entry and will be required to report
any fever or other symptoms to the health authorities and be
placed under surveillance.
- Babies under 12 months are allowed to travel without a
yellow fever vaccination certificate, provided a medical
certificate can be submitted stating that it is undesirable
to inoculate the baby.

[Visa Information - Destination] India (IN)

[Information For Normal Passports]
Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.
Passport Exemptions:
- Holders of an Emergency Identity Certificate issued to
nationals of India.

VISA NOT REQUIRED.

Additional Information:
- Nationals of India holding double nationality,
[[TIDFT/IN/PA/AI/ID30614]]



[Health Information] India (IN)

Vaccination against Yellow Fever is required (SEE NOTE 6268),
if arriving within 6 days after leaving or transiting
countries with risk of yellow fever transmission [[TIRGL/YFIN]]
or Zambia.
NOTE 6268: Passengers failing to present a valid Yellow
Fever certificate (if required) are subject to quarantine
(for max. 6 days) and to pay costs involved. Quarantine
facilities are only available at Dehli (DEL), Chennai (MAA)
and Mumbai (BOM). At other aiports passengers will be
deported. NOTE: Carrier will be charged when passenger
refuses to pay.

Exempt from Yellow Fever vaccination:
- Except for passengers transiting India by the same aircraft.
- Exempt are all children under 9 months of age.
Recommended:
- Malaria prophylaxis. Malaria risk exists throughout the year
in the whole country below 2000 m. (with 40% to 50% of cases
due to P. falciparum). There is no transmission in parts of
the states of Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir and Sikkim.
Highly chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine-resistant
P. falciparum reported.
Recommended prevention in risk areas: III. In Assam: IV.

CHECK [[TINEWS/N1]] - LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC and PARALYMPIC GAMES
- REMINDER OF CHANGES TO ACCEPTANCE OF OIAC FROM 13 AUGUST

08 Aug 2012 / 22:00 [UTC]

Thanks a lot.