Thai Airways Royal Orchid Plus - FAQ: Royal First Class Lounge and Royal Orchid Spa information and access.

Thought with the number of FCL and Spa questions littering this board it might be worth making a sticky with all the available information and also provide a place for members to ask their questions. Please let me know if you think it is a good idea and please let me know if any of the information I have included is wrong or if you feel anything else needs to be added.

Thai Airways Royal First Class Lounge

Link to webpage: FCL (http://www.thaiairways.com/thai-services/on-the-ground/en/royal-first-lounge.htm)
Link to pictures courtesy of lounge guide.net: FCL pictures (http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/Bangkok_(BKK)_Thai_Airways_Royal_First_Class_Loung e)


Royal First Lounge at Concourse D, Level 3 - 1,400 sq.m. has been allocated for Royal First Class passengers with the capacity to accommodate 134 passengers at one time.

Opening hours: 05:00 am. – 01:00 am.

Facilities:
• 2 VIP Rooms
• 6 Private Corners
• 22 Seated A-la-Carte Dining Room
• Wi-fi Internet Corner with 4 PCs
• Slumber Rooms
• Shower Suites
• Toilets with Wheelchair Accessible
• TG First Class Check-in Facility
• Smoking lounge


Lounge access rules:

Departures in TG or *A F from BKK = FCL access

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access

TG F arrival connecting to domestic TG C = officially no FCL access, however some people have been granted access in this situation.

*A F arrival connecting to TG C or *A C = no FCL access

1 guest is allowed when departing in TG F or *A F


Q: If arriving in TG F and departing in TG C the following day, will I get access to the F lounge?

A: The answer to this question is not fully understood however some people have been granted access in this situation

Q: If arriving in TG F and staying in BKK, is it possible to use the TG F lounge as an arrivals lounge?

A: Unfortunately this is not allowed, although exceptions have been made before. So officially it's not allowed, but there is no harm in asking.


Thai Airways Royal Orchid Spa

Link to webpage: Spa (http://www.thaiairways.com/thai-services/on-the-ground/en/royal-orchid-spa.htm)


Royal Orchid Spa at Concourse D, level 3 – 667 sq.m. is primarily designed to serve Royal First and Royal Silk Class passengers with full ranges of spa services.

Opening hours: 06:00 am. – 11:30 pm.

General Facilities:
• 32 Seated Lounge Area
• Healthy Snack
• Hot/Cold Herbal Drink

First Class Zone Facilities:
• 3 Touch Of Silk Suites (Body Massage)
• 6 Neck & Shoulder or Relaxing Foot Massage Corners
• 2 Steam Rooms
• 2 Sauna Rooms
• 4 Shower Rooms
• Toilets

Silk Class Zone Facility:
• 8 Neck & Shoulder or Relaxing Foot Massage Corners

Treatment Menu:

• Touch Of Silk Massage (Full body oil massage - 60 minutes for First Class only) – Ler's start your journey with a relaxing Touch of Silk full body oil massage. Delivered with the unique 'Thai touch', this massage will help to prepare your body for your onward flight by increasing blood circulation as well as relieving muscular tension and helping to provide the necessary hydration for your skin. On leaving the massage you will be left with an overall sense of well-being and total relaxation.

• Neck & Shoulder Massage (30 minutes) – This is a great massage for passengers who are stressed, work at the computer too much or don't relax well. Neck and shoulder problems from routine activities are among the most common area for massage therapists to address. Using specific techniques the therapist will work to loosen tight muscles around the neck and shoulders whilst simultaneously assessing how much tension is held in the body and how best to release it. You will board your flight feeling more relaxed and a little lighter on the shoulders.

• Relaxing Hand Massage (30 minutes) – Are your hands tired from all that clicking, driving, messaging and typing? If so, how about offering them a break and giving them a massage they truly deserve? By massaging the major channels/meridians of the arms and reflex points in the hands, this deep hand massage is designed to thoroughly release tension that accumulates in the hands and arms from our daily tasks. finishing with warm towels for both arms encourage muscle relaxation; this treatment can help to deliver a total sense of relaxation.

• Relaxing Foot Massage (30 minutes) – Let's help prepare your feet for your onward journey, by taking the weight of them and giving them a relaxing massage that they truly deserve. Foot massage is a well-known relaxation therapy to help take care of tired feet. With the gentle touch of the therapists' hands, a sense of overall relaxation is induced. Deeper pressure by the fingers will help to stimulate your vital organs.


Spa access rules:

TG F departure = F spa access

*A F departures = No spa access

TG C departures = C spa access

*A C departures = No spa access

TG F arrival connecting to TG C = C spa access, however some people have been offered F spa access in this scenario

*A F arrival connecting to TG C = C spa access

No guest are allowed regardless of class of travel


Q: Is it possible to book the spa treatment in advance?

A: No. You can book at First class check-in, at the FCL or the Spa itself - they will indicate the approx waiting time if more than a few minutes.


I have had some PMs from newer members who are confused by some of the abbreviations on this post. If you need help understanding them, FT has a great tool for looking up their meanings in the FT glossary (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/glossary.php).

Great Idea, much needed !

I think it would be good to add the fact you cannot book the SPA in advance, just simply turn up with your BP and register - they will indicate the approx waiting time if more than a few minutes.

I was also lucky enough to experience the Full F Massage a few years back, think it's a 1 hour session, with optional shower - might be a good idea for somebody with more recent experience to document and add the details to the 'menu' !

Well done.

Graham

Great Idea, much needed !

I think it would be good to add the fact you cannot book the SPA in advance, just simply turn up with your BP and register - they will indicate the approx waiting time if more than a few minutes.

I was also lucky enough to experience the Full F Massage a few years back, think it's a 1 hour session, with optional shower - might be a good idea for somebody with more recent experience to document and add the details to the 'menu' !

Well done.

Graham

Good point! I have added it to the OP ^

You can book Massage at First Class Check in.

Departures in TG or *A F from BKK = FCL access

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access (Please note that overnight connections will not be granted FCL access the following day)

TG F arrival connecting to domestic TG C = officially no FCL access, however some people have been granted access in this situation.

*A F arrival connecting to TG C or *A C = no FCL access

1 guest is allowed when departing in TG F or *A F


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Q: Is it possible to book the spa treatment in advance?

A: No, simply turn up with your BP and register - they will indicate the approx waiting time if more than a few minutes.

Two things:

1) Does TG F -> *A C really get F lounge access?

1a) TG F -> TG C where the connection is 8AM has granted me morning F lounge access on several occasions. There's a more nuanced approach than what's currently stated here.

2) F spa access can be arranged from the F lounge with reports of check in also taking care of this. C spa access is on a first come first served basis.

Two things:

1) Does TG F -> *A C really get F lounge access?

1a) TG F -> TG C where the connection is 8AM has granted me morning F lounge access on several occasions. There's a more nuanced approach than what's currently stated here.

2) F spa access can be arranged from the F lounge with reports of check in also taking care of this. C spa access is on a first come first served basis.


Thanks for the feedback, I have updated the OP. I have been given F lounge access every time on LHR-BKK(TG F)-SIN(SQ C) hence I assumed this was common policy. Let me know if your experiences differ?

Also worth a mention that there is a smoking lounge contained within the F lounge.

Thank you for the taking this under your wing pogonation. Nice job. ^^

Also worth a mention that there is a smoking lounge contained within the F lounge.

Thank you for the taking this under your wing pogonation. Nice job. ^^

Sorted ^ No worries. Now all I have to do is try find a mod to make it a sticky :)

Sorted ^ No worries. Now all I have to do is try find a mod to make it a sticky :)

Well, oliver2002 took this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thai-airways-royal-orchid-plus/1324402-ridiculous-service-today-f-nrt-bkk.html) and made it quite boring. He might be able to help with the sticky.

Now all I have to do is try find a mod to make it a sticky :)

I hope some day to fly Thai First and get to make use of this info. What a great resource. I've gone ahead and stickied the thread.

I hope some day to fly Thai First and get to make use of this info. What a great resource. I've gone ahead and stickied the thread.

Thanks a lot ^

Hi - there will be two us departing from BKK on TG F. I understand that we can each guest one person but wanted to check some things:

1) Our friends will have Eva air (international departure) boarding passes - can they still be our guests even though not *A?
2) I am assuming they can't use the the first class check-in area with us as non *A
3) If they can be our guests, do we leave their names at the FCL reception and is it a problem if we are in the spa when they arrive?

thanks!

Hi - there will be two us departing from BKK on TG F. I understand that we can each guest one person but wanted to check some things:

1) Our friends will have Eva air (international departure) boarding passes - can they still be our guests even though not *A?
2) I am assuming they can't use the the first class check-in area with us as non *A
3) If they can be our guests, do we leave their names at the FCL reception and is it a problem if we are in the spa when they arrive?

thanks!

Guests must be in possession of a valid *A BP.

If these plans are for late next year, when EVA will possibly have been admitted to *A then you're golden. ;)

I have a guest question.

I'm arriving TG F and departing intl same day TG C. I have a guest traveling with me in Y. Will I get a guest?

The "guest is allowed when departing in TG F or *A F" line is making me feel like maybe no. Would it be better to say that if you have access to the FCL then you also get a guest?

I have a guest question.

I'm arriving TG F and departing intl same day TG C. I have a guest traveling with me in Y. Will I get a guest?

The "guest is allowed when departing in TG F or *A F" line is making me feel like maybe no. Would it be better to say that if you have access to the FCL then you also get a guest?

Officially no but YMMV. If you ask nicely then I think you may actually have a good chance IMO.

Officially no but YMMV. If you ask nicely then I think you may actually have a good chance IMO.

Crap. That isn't good. Does anyone have any tips for helping convince them for access?

Crap. That isn't good. Does anyone have any tips for helping convince them for access?

On arrival I would ask the FA if your friend can come up the front for landing and get off the plane with you. This way you can both get on your buggy and she may just drive you both to the lounge and then all they will want to see are your onward boarding passes and probably not ask any more Q's.

There will be 5 of us flying BKK-LHR in May.

3 pax in F, 1 in J and 1 in Y. Can F/J pax bring 1 guest to the lounge? I wonder if all 5 of us can get into F lounge, or at least the 1 Y pax can get access to J lounge.

There will be 5 of us flying BKK-LHR in May.

3 pax in F, 1 in J and 1 in Y. Can F/J pax bring 1 guest to the lounge? I wonder if all 5 of us can get into F lounge, or at least the 1 Y pax can get access to J lounge.

Each F pax is allowed a guest so all 5 of you can enter the F lounge ^

There will be 5 of us flying BKK-LHR in May.

3 pax in F, 1 in J and 1 in Y. Can F/J pax bring 1 guest to the lounge? I wonder if all 5 of us can get into F lounge, or at least the 1 Y pax can get access to J lounge.

Each F pax is allowed a guest so all 5 of you can enter the F lounge ^

Yup you'll be allowed 3 guests .... and you only have expectations for 2? I'd be happy to help fill the allotment should you need. ;)

On arrival I would ask the FA if your friend can come up the front for landing and get off the plane with you. This way you can both get on your buggy and she may just drive you both to the lounge and then all they will want to see are your onward boarding passes and probably not ask any more Q's.

Interesting. Are you talking about having them come up before the plane lands?

Interesting. Are you talking about having them come up before the plane lands?

It may help but then it might be quite likely that the FA's would refuse.

Thanks all for the answer. This is awesome!

I'm travelling CDG-BKK in F and onwards to USM in C.

Doesn't look like I'll officially get Flounge access, but what I'm reading it seems open to discretion.

Will certainly be trying my luck, and pushing for access.

I'm travelling CDG-BKK in F and onwards to USM in C.

Doesn't look like I'll officially get Flounge access, but what I'm reading it seems open to discretion.

Will certainly be trying my luck, and pushing for access.

You can ask them and see if they are okay with it. Just remember that you have to go through immigration and through to the domestic terminal so I wouldn't recommend trying unless you've got a long connection.. And I think your connection is most likely 1hr50 in which case it's not worth it IMO.

Hi everyone,
I have purchased an award ticket for my mother traveling HNL-PNH, due to availability she is currently coming in to BKK on TG/Y and leaving on TG/C (2 class aircraft).
She is arriving at 4:30am with a 3:25 layover, does anyone know if she will have access to the C spa services? and how likely is it she will be able to get in?

Also.. I have been checking and hoping a business or first award seat will open up on her flight from Tokyo-BKK. I wanted to get her first as she has never traveled out of the country and I liked the idea of them taking her through customs and to the lounge.
After reading the above posts it sounds like as she is going from TG/F -> TG/C it is not assured she will have F lounge access, does this mean they will not pick her up and take her through customs?

Thanks

Hi everyone,
I have purchased an award ticket for my mother traveling HNL-PNH, due to availability she is currently coming in to BKK on TG/Y and leaving on TG/C (2 class aircraft).
She is arriving at 4:30am with a 3:25 layover, does anyone know if she will have access to the C spa services? and how likely is it she will be able to get in?

Also.. I have been checking and hoping a business or first award seat will open up on her flight from Tokyo-BKK. I wanted to get her first as she has never traveled out of the country and I liked the idea of them taking her through customs and to the lounge.
After reading the above posts it sounds like as she is going from TG/F -> TG/C it is not assured she will have F lounge access, does this mean they will not pick her up and take her through customs?

Thanks

Hi there, welcome to FT ^
All your questions have been answered in the first post on this thread. Since she would be departing from BKK-PNH in C then she will get C lounge access and C spa services.

If she arrives in TG F and connects to PNH in C then she will have access to the F lounge but will only get access to the C spa. By the way she will not have to go through customs/immigration in BKK. If arriving in F she will be driven from the gate of her arriving aircraft to the lounge and then she will be escorted to the gate of her flight to PNH.

I'm connecting in BKK on a *A award ticket from SYD-ZRH: TG F to BKK and LX F to ZRH. It's definite that I will get first class lounge access but is it definite that I will not get any spa access? Is the spa access truly only for passengers departing on TG?

Also I currently have a 7-hour layover but don't intend to leave the airport. I could switch to a later TG SYD-BKK and have a 70 minute layover. Is this feasible given the first class pickup on arrival and no need to go through immigration? Would I be taken all the way to my departing LX flight?

I'm arriving on TG C and departing on *A C (SQ).

Two questions.

Do I qualify for spa access? I couldn't find my exact situation at the top of the thread.

Which BKK lounge(s) should I/am I entitled to? TG? SQ?

I'm connecting in BKK on a *A award ticket from SYD-ZRH: TG F to BKK and LX F to ZRH. It's definite that I will get first class lounge access but is it definite that I will not get any spa access? Is the spa access truly only for passengers departing on TG?

Also I currently have a 7-hour layover but don't intend to leave the airport. I could switch to a later TG SYD-BKK and have a 70 minute layover. Is this feasible given the first class pickup on arrival and no need to go through immigration? Would I be taken all the way to my departing LX flight?

Hi there ninewise. The answer can be found in the title. You definitely don't have spa access as it is only available to those departing on TG metal.

The standard minimum connection for international to international flights at BKK is 75 mins however it is 70 for certain TG to TG flights.. Let me know which flights you are arriving and departing on and I can tell you if it is a legal connection or not?

I'm arriving on TG C and departing on *A C (SQ).

Two questions.

Do I qualify for spa access? I couldn't find my exact situation at the top of the thread.

Which BKK lounge(s) should I/am I entitled to? TG? SQ?

Hi there winglets747, your situation is noted in the OP, if you are departing on a non-TG *A flight then you do not get access to the spa.

You are entitled to use any *A lounge at BKK so you would have access to both of those lounges. Personally I would recommend the SQ lounge as the food is much superior ^

Hi there ninewise. The answer can be found in the title. You definitely don't have spa access as it is only available to those departing on TG metal.

The standard minimum connection for international to international flights at BKK is 75 mins however it is 70 for certain TG to TG flights.. Let me know which flights you are arriving and departing on and I can tell you if it is a legal connection or not?

Thanks, the flights would be TG 472 (arr 22:15) connecting to LX 181 (dep 23:25). TG 472 actually doesn't operate on the day I'm flying so it's irrelevant for now unless the flight schedules change, which they already have once since I booked it.

What is there to do for 7 hours in the BKK international terminal if I can't go to the spa?? Haha

Thanks, the flights would be TG 472 (arr 22:15) connecting to LX 181 (dep 23:25). TG 472 actually doesn't operate on the day I'm flying so it's irrelevant for now unless the flight schedules change, which they already have once since I booked it.

What is there to do for 7 hours in the BKK international terminal if I can't go to the spa?? Haha

In that case you cannot do a 70 minute transit as it would be an illegal connection. With 7 hours, get out the airport and head into town. You can do a lot in that time really. Go to a spa in town, go get some food, get some rest at a hotel etc.

In that case you cannot do a 70 minute transit as it would be an illegal connection. With 7 hours, get out the airport and head into town. You can do a lot in that time really. Go to a spa in town, go get some food, get some rest at a hotel etc.

Actually there is an exception in the MCT for all flights connecting onto LX181 which allows for a 1:10 connection. Thus TG472 to LX181 is legal.

Actually there is an exception in the MCT for all flights connecting onto LX181 which allows for a 1:10 connection. Thus TG472 to LX181 is legal.

Ahh apologies you are correct, I totally missed that in the list of exceptions. In that case OP I would change to the 70 minute connection ^

Hi there winglets747, your situation is noted in the OP, if you are departing on a non-TG *A flight then you do not get access to the spa.

Not really, as I wanted to know if arriving on TG C matters. E.g. since I just flew TG C I could be perceived to be more valuable.

Not really, as I wanted to know if arriving on TG C matters. E.g. since I just flew TG C I could be perceived to be more valuable.

Yes really. You are not departing on TG C therefore your answer can be found in the OP. This it's not rocket science.

You are not departing on TG C therefore your answer can be found in the OP. This it's not rocket science.

Teeheehee

Yes really. You are not departing on TG C therefore your answer can be found in the OP. This it's not rocket science.

Like I said, I wanted to know if there were considerations made if part of the ticket is on TG C. That could be seen by the airline to be more valuable than someone arriving on non-TG C. It can't hurt to ask, and forums are all about where we can ask and go through the closer details of T&Cs. Cheers. :)

Like I said, I wanted to know if there were considerations made if part of the ticket is on TG C. That could be seen by the airline to be more valuable than someone arriving on non-TG C. It can't hurt to ask, and forums are all about where we can ask and go through the closer details of T&Cs. Cheers. :)

Considerations? Yes. You must be departing on TG C/F.

Would you like semifor? Thai script? please, let us help you because, from your insistence, you do need help.

Just visited the Spa and FCL at BKK. They told me that inbound F, outbound C on Star A would suffice for FCL access. In my case I was outbound on TG F anyway.

I was flying the Sunday morning SYD flight so it wasn't exactly busy at the Spa. I simply showed up, after the cart-driving chica dropped me at the door, and they booked me in for 30 mins right away. That's all I had time for.

TG F in the 346 was definitely a good experience. The return from SYD had a full F cabin and although the service was polite, it wasn't as prompt and anticipatory as it had been on the outbound.

I know this is a silly question, so please forgive me. If granted access to the F spa is it complementary?

I will be connecting through BKK coming in TG F and departing TG C Intl, so I will have access.

I know this is a silly question, so please forgive me. If granted access to the F spa is it complementary?

I will be connecting through BKK coming in TG F and departing TG C Intl, so I will have access.

Yes.

I know this is a silly question, so please forgive me. If granted access to the F spa is it complementary?

I will be connecting through BKK coming in TG F and departing TG C Intl, so I will have access.

You will only have access to the C spa since you are departing in TG C. Some people have reported getting F access based on an F arrival but this is an exception so it is best not to expect F spa access.

The spa is complementary and you will be offered a 30 minute foot or head and neck massage.

Nice one, pogonation, although I did love all the other threads, I did get in, no you can't get in, and all the other alternatives. This is an excellent job, I do wish I had the time and the brains to put something like this together. I can advise that we have made the old Burma an easier place to get around for some with a few of the readies, if you get the time, get there soon.

I'll be arriving into BKK on TG C Int'l at 10pm (F not offered), connecting to TG F Int'l the next morning around 9am. Do I have FCL and spa access (1 hr massage) upon arrival into BKK? Thanks!

What is the correct thing to do as far as tipping for the massage is concerned? While at the lounge I will only have USD as I will am travelling BOS-LHR-BKK-PVG.

What is the correct thing to do as far as tipping for the massage is concerned? While at the lounge I will only have USD as I will am travelling BOS-LHR-BKK-PVG.

No tip is expected or encouraged. On a few occasions where I've had an outstanding massage I've given 20 or 50 THB, but most of the time I don't tip.

If you don't have THB then don't even worry about it.

I am Flying in on Thai F....... am connecting onward to a non star alliance carrier from BKK......

the airline is Emirates

did i totally screw myself?:(:confused:

Thai will send a buggy to pick you up at the aircraft door and take you to the transfer point for your flight, you will enjoy the service on Emirates, sounds like a nice mixture to me, so no stuff up.

I am Flying in on Thai F....... am connecting onward to a non star alliance carrier from BKK......

the airline is Emirates

did i totally screw myself?:(:confused:

You screwed yourself out of the F lounge most likely.

Thai will send a buggy to pick you up at the aircraft door and take you to the transfer point for your flight, you will enjoy the service on Emirates, sounds like a nice mixture to me, so no stuff up.

While this may be accurate, it doesn't address the F lounge issue which is the point of this thread.

Cheers.

You remind me so much of my second wife, I used to come home after a case and throw stuff everywhere, but she had a place for everything, so it was all picked up and distributed over a number of rooms. She always said she would get back at me, and the childlike writting looks familar, is that you cynthia?

I am Flying in on Thai F....... am connecting onward to a non star alliance carrier from BKK......

the airline is Emirates

did i totally screw myself?:(:confused:

Unfortunately no access :(

Something that might be useful in the first post for people new to TG (like me), is the "etiquette" (for lack of a better word) for the full body massage in the spa. Noting male vs female differences would probably also be appreciated.

I have read about the meshy underwear. I've also read about a shower beforehand. Not sure about the legitimacy of either. To my uninitiated mind, it would seem that you need a shower after a full body oil massage.

There appears to be little difference in the habits of the males and females using spas.

Most users have a shower beforehand, to cleanse their bodies of odours and grime, then put the panties on, followed by the bathrobe and the slippers.

At the Thai massage centre, after you choose the style of massage you prefer, you can pick the type of oil also, if you don't know which one, any will be OK.

Then there is that manouvre all therapist do, where you have to lay face down on the table, whilst removing your gown, and they are covering you head to toe in towels. It is similar to ballroom dancing without the music.

Half hour later, you are turned over, and the front is done and they normally finish with a neck and scalp pinch. She will disappear and it is easy for you to get back to your private ensuite room, turn on the hot water shower and get dressed.

After the shower, they take you to a lounge for some herbal ginger tea or the likes and some healthy biscuits. Many of us also enjoy the other benefits of the spa, but it all comes down to time. After a flight from Europe, there is nothing like laying in a bath for an hour, but first try the massage

Thank you BKKROP for detailed information. Very helfull.

Allow me to ask basic question. Silk Class Zone seems not to have shower facility. Does that mean I should have a shower at lounge then off to Royal Orchid Spa?

There appears to be little difference in the habits of the males and females using spas.

Most users have a shower beforehand, to cleanse their bodies of odours and grime, then put the panties on, followed by the bathrobe and the slippers.

At the Thai massage centre, after you choose the style of massage you prefer, you can pick the type of oil also, if you don't know which one, any will be OK.

Then there is that manouvre all therapist do, where you have to lay face down on the table, whilst removing your gown, and they are covering you head to toe in towels. It is similar to ballroom dancing without the music.

Half hour later, you are turned over, and the front is done and they normally finish with a neck and scalp pinch. She will disappear and it is easy for you to get back to your private ensuite room, turn on the hot water shower and get dressed.

After the shower, they take you to a lounge for some herbal ginger tea or the likes and some healthy biscuits. Many of us also enjoy the other benefits of the spa, but it all comes down to time. After a flight from Europe, there is nothing like laying in a bath for an hour, but first try the massage

Excellent info! Thank you. I look forward to my massage before my TG F flight on the leased 77W to FRA!

Thank you BKKROP for detailed information. Very helfull.

Allow me to ask basic question. Silk Class Zone seems not to have shower facility. Does that mean I should have a shower at lounge then off to Royal Orchid Spa?

For the Royal Orchid Spa you have a choice of a (1) foot massage or (2) neck and shoulder massage. While the foot massage should probably be done on clean feet the latter is done with your shirt on and does not require a shower unless you feel it is necessary.

For the Royal Orchid Spa you have a choice of a (1) foot massage or (2) neck and shoulder massage. While the foot massage should probably be done on clean feet the latter is done with your shirt on and does not require a shower unless you feel it is necessary.

I see. Thank you dsquared37. I was thinking of neck & shoulder massage (so masseur won't suffer from my smelly feet :p), and expected to take off my shirt. Anyway, having shower would be a good thing to do for etiquette and refreshing.

I see. Thank you dsquared37. I was thinking of neck & shoulder massage (so masseur won't suffer from my smelly feet :p), and expected to take off my shirt. Anyway, having shower would be a good thing to do for etiquette and refreshing.

I've never had a foot massage in the spa always choosing the neck/shoulder instead. Sometimes it's merely good, other times it's fantastic.

I've never had a foot massage in the spa always choosing the neck/shoulder instead. Sometimes it's merely good, other times it's fantastic.

Once again, thank you for your advice, dsquared37. I am looking forward to it:)

Is the spa generally busy in the morning? I will be booking an award which includes BKK-HKG in TG F but only the morning 08:00 flight is available for my dates. I wold like to get the massage in before departure, should I plan to be there when they open at 06:00?

Is the spa generally busy in the morning? I will be booking an award which includes BKK-HKG in TG F but only the morning 08:00 flight is available for my dates. I wold like to get the massage in before departure, should I plan to be there when they open at 06:00?

I had to look up where SVG is, must admit I am still none the wiser, Stavanger I will have to google later on, but to important topics, the lounge is busy all the time, I am amazed at how many are there when I arrive early some mornings, but you will get in. They will know what flight you are on and make sure you get to your plane on time. The First Class lounge massage and the breakfast you can order in the restaurant is brilliant and being someone who loves to read newspapers, I absolutely adore the array of world papers that this lounge has. Enjoy your First class experience in Bangkok, IMO, no other airline does it as well.

Thanks for that BKKROP ^
Looking forward to it indeed! :D

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AF@CDG does it better :) even though I prefer the TG F massage to the AF one.

Arriving in the morning in F from Europe and leaving in the afternoon in F to HKG, would it be OK to go to the F lounge for breakfast, then go through immigration and to the city and finally back early afternoon for a massage, refreshments and my HKG flight?

AF@CDG does it better :) even though I prefer the TG F massage to the AF one.

Arriving in the morning in F from Europe and leaving in the afternoon in F to HKG, would it be OK to go to the F lounge for breakfast, then go through immigration and to the city and finally back early afternoon for a massage, refreshments and my HKG flight?

This shouldn't be a problem although you potentially set yourself up to pay the departure tax.

Just note that the exit from the 3rd floor is a few meters before you get to the information desk adjacent to the transfer security point.

I'm going to be connecting at BKK tomorrow and will be able to take advantage of the TG F spa (60-90 minute treatment since I'm departing in TG F).

I have done the spa thing several times, but I haven't quite figured out where the two steam and sauna rooms are located.

I suspect they are integrated in the separate treatment rooms (I always seem to get the room with the large whirlpool, but once I had a room with a very large shower that appears to do something else besides spray water, but I didn't try all the buttons to find out).

Can anybody tell me how to arrange use of the steam facility? TIA.

Hi, sounds to me as if you have been in it, but ask the lounge captain or the spa supervisor to book you in. There are two steam and 2 saunas. They have an interesting ginger and orange tea at the moment, I am addicted to it, enjoy your transit through Bangkok

Well, I just had a 60 minute oil massage today. I didn't ask about the steam since I'm returning from Bali, and yesterday I spent some time by the pool which left my skin a little tender. I'd jump out of a steam room like a screaming little girl. :-)

Next time for sure!

This weekend, I am flying in from FCO on TG945 F, and departing 3 1/2 hours later to DPS on C (2 class aircraft). Here's what I gather from reading all of these posts. Any corrections are appreciated!



I may have access to the F lounge and spa, but that is not guaranteed. Reading in other places, it seems that it is likely, but that I'll just have to ask nicely.

I will be picked up on a cart upon arrival and brought to the appropriate lounge.

If I want to access the F lounge, I will need to go through immigration, since it is in the domestic terminal. I may have to pay a departure tax for doing so.

The 3 1/2 hours may be enough time to access this terminal, go to the F lounge/spa, get a 1 hour massage, and head back for my departing flight.


Did I get this right? Should I stick with the C lounge in the international terminal and play it safe?

Thanks!

Enki

This weekend, I am flying in from FCO on TG945 F, and departing 3 1/2 hours later to DPS on C (2 class aircraft). Here's what I gather from reading all of these posts. Any corrections are appreciated!



I may have access to the F lounge and spa, but that is not guaranteed. Reading in other places, it seems that it is likely, but that I'll just have to ask nicely.

I will be picked up on a cart upon arrival and brought to the appropriate lounge.

If I want to access the F lounge, I will need to go through immigration, since it is in the domestic terminal. I may have to pay a departure tax for doing so.

The 3 1/2 hours may be enough time to access this terminal, go to the F lounge/spa, get a 1 hour massage, and head back for my departing flight.


Did I get this right? Should I stick with the C lounge in the international terminal and play it safe?

Thanks!

Enki

Okay, you will have F lounge access but the F lounge is in the International terminal, not domestic. Cart pickup is correct. You will only get the 30 minute massage. No need to use the J lounge.

This weekend, I am flying in from FCO on TG945 F, and departing 3 1/2 hours later to DPS on C (2 class aircraft). Here's what I gather from reading all of these posts. Any corrections are appreciated!



I may have access to the F lounge and spa, but that is not guaranteed. Reading in other places, it seems that it is likely, but that I'll just have to ask nicely. Guaranteed access to F lounge and you may get access to the F spa (varying reports on this).

I will be picked up on a cart upon arrival and brought to the appropriate lounge. Yup

If I want to access the F lounge, I will need to go through immigration, since it is in the domestic terminal. I may have to pay a departure tax for doing so. No you will not. The F lounge is an international lounge and your cart will drive you straight there from your arrival gate.

The 3 1/2 hours may be enough time to access this terminal, go to the F lounge/spa, get a 1 hour massage, and head back for my departing flight.
Plenty of time to enjoy the lounge and the spa although you will only get the 1 hour massage in the unlikely event that you get into the F Spa. Otherwise 30 minutes at the C spa.

Did I get this right? Should I stick with the C lounge in the international terminal and play it safe?

Thanks!

Enki

I will be traveling on an award ticket:

DPS-BKK C arriving 7:25p

Leaving next day

BKK-SYD F departing 7:45a

I am going to spend the 12 hours in the transit area, and wondered if I can stay in the RFC lounge until they close at 1:00a? I can wander off for 4 hours - I have a Priority Pass so, maybe I can use a Louis' Tavern for a few hours? I would then return to RFC when they open.

Is this a feasible plan? Or, any other thoughts. Thanks

I will be traveling on an award ticket:

DPS-BKK C arriving 7:25p

Leaving next day

BKK-SYD F departing 7:45a

I am going to spend the 12 hours in the transit area, and wondered if I can stay in the RFC lounge until they close at 1:00a? I can wander off for 4 hours - I have a Priority Pass so, maybe I can use a Louis' Tavern for a few hours? I would then return to RFC when they open.

Is this a feasible plan? Or, any other thoughts. Thanks

Potentially a faesible plan but WHY :confused: That is turning what should be a nice luxury, enjoyable journey into hell! If you want to be fresh for your flight to SYD the next day, go out, spend the evening in bangkok, maybe have a nice meal and get a massage, have a good nights sleep then get a nice shower and head to the airport.

Potentially a faesible plan but WHY :confused: That is turning what should be a nice luxury, enjoyable journey into hell! If you want to be fresh for your flight to SYD the next day, go out, spend the evening in bangkok, maybe have a nice meal and get a massage, have a good nights sleep then get a nice shower and head to the airport.

To me, it's not a journey into hell! I get my massage and a nice meal in the FC lounge, I can have a sleep in one of the day rooms -- hey, you never know, they may forget I'm in there :). I will have just spent 10 days in Balinese paradise, and am about to get on a long flight where I can sleep.

In the past, I have had 12 hour layovers in ZRH and FRA and, because I was flying F, have enjoyed the experience. The only difference -- those were layovers during the day. In BKK, I can watch 2 movies in four hours, then back to FC luxury for breakfast and another shower - nice!

I will be traveling on an award ticket:

DPS-BKK C arriving 7:25p

Leaving next day

BKK-SYD F departing 7:45a

I am going to spend the 12 hours in the transit area, and wondered if I can stay in the RFC lounge until they close at 1:00a? I can wander off for 4 hours - I have a Priority Pass so, maybe I can use a Louis' Tavern for a few hours? I would then return to RFC when they open.

Is this a feasible plan? Or, any other thoughts. Thanks

I've done something similiar a few times. Arriving 11PM in F and departing at 7:30AM in C and sticking around the airport. I also have priority pass and spent the 1AM-5AM hours in those lounges napping*.

The only potential hassle you'll have is getting your F BP to access the lounges.

Since you're arriving early evening I'd recommend heading into town.

*There's an official policy of a 2hr stay per lounge and sometimes they enforce this. With a lounge in C and A concourses it might simply require a 5 minute walk during the walk.

I m flying with someone from CMB into BKK on TG C, arrival is about 6am.

I am then continuing on TG C to DAC at 10:30, and she is continuing at 12:30pm on TG F into FRA.

Just to confirm, she will be able to bring me as a guest into the lounge?

I dont really want the spa in the morning, she will use it after I leave at 10am, but would I be eligible for it as guest anyway? Or do I just get the C class treatment if so desired?

I m flying with someone from CMB into BKK on TG C, arrival is about 6am.

I am then continuing on TG C to DAC at 10:30, and she is continuing at 12:30pm on TG F into FRA.

Just to confirm, she will be able to bring me as a guest into the lounge?

I dont really want the spa in the morning, she will use it after I leave at 10am, but would I be eligible for it as guest anyway? Or do I just get the C class treatment if so desired?

You absolutely are eligible to be an F guest since F pax get one guest and you'll be in possession of a *A BP.

As for the spa, should you want it, you'll be eligible for C not F treatment.

Hi all,

I have a side question -- we're arriving in TG F and connecting on to CNX in whatever-is-cheapest-Y (at the moment looks like Bangkok Airways at $123 RT). Is there just an arrivals lounge in BKK to have a quick shower?

Thanks!

Hi all,

I have a side question -- we're arriving in TG F and connecting on to CNX in whatever-is-cheapest-Y (at the moment looks like Bangkok Airways at $123 RT). Is there just an arrivals lounge in BKK to have a quick shower?

Thanks!

No arrivals lounge and no showers in the PG lounge (unless you gain admission to the Blue Ribbon side).

No arrivals lounge and no showers in the PG lounge (unless you gain admission to the Blue Ribbon side).

Thanks dsquared,

What if we buy TG Y tickets? Would our incoming TG F's be enough to gain access to some domestic lounge, or does that not have showers either?

Can one pay into the Blue Ribbon side? I've got that Skyguide thing.

Thanks dsquared,

What if we buy TG Y tickets? Would our incoming TG F's be enough to gain access to some domestic lounge, or does that not have showers either?

Can one pay into the Blue Ribbon side? I've got that Skyguide thing.

If TG Y then you might be able to gain access to the TG F lounge while waiting for your domestic connection.

As for PG I'm not aware of any way to purchase yourself into the Blue Ribbon side. You can be guested, but otherwise either you need to have status or be flying in C.

I'd actually spend the extra little bit that a o/w cost to get the potential for the TG F lounge.

If TG Y then you might be able to gain access to the TG F lounge while waiting for your domestic connection.

As for PG I'm not aware of any way to purchase yourself into the Blue Ribbon side. You can be guested, but otherwise either you need to have status or be flying in C.

I'd actually spend the extra little bit that a o/w cost to get the potential for the TG F lounge.

Does the TG C lounge in the domestic terminal have showers?

Here's the official word from Thai, by the way:


Hello,

A friend and I are travelling in Thai Royal First class from Zurich to Bangkok (TG 971 departing Zurich on 30 July 2012). We were wondering if there were any arrival lounges in Bangkok airport so that we could have a quick shower and maybe some tea before heading off to our destination.

I would appreciate if you would let me know.

Thank you very much.




Mr. Abramovich,
The lounges in Bangkok are designating for departing or connecting passengers and are "officially" not available to arriving passengers. However, if you show your boarding pass from your inbound flight, sometimes they will let you stay come in, but it is at lounge discretion

Regards



THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL P.C.L

Does the TG C lounge in the domestic terminal have showers?

Here's the official word from Thai, by the way:

The only lounge TG has in the domestic terminal does not contain a shower, which is why I specified that a connection to a TG (dom) flight might allow you to gain access to the F (int) lounge.

As for the 'official' word, well, what is told to you in an email or on the phone is not necessarily how things are handled in the airport.

Hello again experts,
I have just completed full massage. It was just fantastic!!
Thank you so so much for taking your time to share your knowledge with us.
You are all legend!!

regards,
sushiinsyd

I am coming from Fra on TG F in the morning and have a 1.5 hour layover until departing to HKG in F. I can depart for HKG a little later and enjoy the F lounge, but the later departure is on a 2 class flight and would be in Business. How would people vote: sacrifice a first class seat for 2:45 minutes and gain time to enjoy the F Class lounge, or stick with F Class to HKG and not have time to enjoy the lounge?

How would people vote: sacrifice a first class seat for 2:45 minutes and gain time to enjoy the F Class lounge, or stick with F Class to HKG and not have time to enjoy the lounge?

If it was me, I'd probably go for an even later flight to HKG ;-)

You'll have an hour or so in the lounge, so that's plenty to enjoy a snack and drink or to (even to have a shower if you wish). You could squeeze in a quick massage, but not the full 60-minute treatment.

Out of the two options you've described, I think 2:45 in First is preferable to longer in the lounge and a business class seat onward to HKG.

I noticed the OP mentioned YMMV on an arriving F, departing C itin with regards to a 60 min massage. Does anyone have specific cases where they were given the longer one? Is Intl C vs Dom C relevant? Is departing BKK in TG F later in the itin relevant? Also, for an arrival at 9 PM and a departure at 9 AM can one obtain the spa services the night before?

Is departing BKK in TG F later in the itin relevant? Also, for an arrival at 9 PM and a departure at 9 AM can one obtain the spa services the night before?

Hi, keep in the back of your mind that like most lounges, this is a departure lounge, not an arrival lounge, so if departing in First, you are entitled to all and everything, starting from the curbside as your car pulls up to your seat in the A380 (soon). If you aretravelling domestic there is no First, and there is another terminal for you to move through to, and the best there is a business lounge. If you are traveling internationally in business you can have a choice of 6 different treatment. As to arriving one day and leaving the next, access to this area without Aa boarding pass is restricted, so if you have one and you were traveling into Bkk in first, it is possible, a maybe, most FF are saying it is difficult, if not a definite no, but 9pm you would be tired, is it worth the hassles? Anyway have a good flight, regards

I noticed the OP mentioned YMMV on an arriving F, departing C itin with regards to a 60 min massage. Does anyone have specific cases where they were given the longer one? Is Intl C vs Dom C relevant? Is departing BKK in TG F later in the itin relevant? Also, for an arrival at 9 PM and a departure at 9 AM can one obtain the spa services the night before?

It's the departure flight which counts, as follows:

Departing international in F - 60 minute full body massage (which is really, really fabulous)
Departing international in J - 30 minute head & shoulders or foot massage
Departing domestic in any class - No massage


It is not unheard of for a pax arriving from an international flight in F and departing on on international flight in J to receive the full body massage. Other than the departing flight, I think some future F flight on the itinerary wouldn't count for much.

For the 9pm/9am question, I can't see any reason why you could not receive your massage the night before (but please remember the Royal First lounge and Royal Orchid Spa close overnight).

As pointed out, YMMV. Happy travels.

I am coming from Fra on TG F in the morning and have a 1.5 hour layover until departing to HKG in F. I can depart for HKG a little later and enjoy the F lounge, but the later departure is on a 2 class flight and would be in Business. How would people vote: sacrifice a first class seat for 2:45 minutes and gain time to enjoy the F Class lounge, or stick with F Class to HKG and not have time to enjoy the lounge?

take the connecting F flight - much more comfortable. The F lounge is ok - but it's not that great. It's in the same category as the CX F lounge HKG, QF F lounges in SYD and MEL and the Lh FCT - but it probably ranks the last in category - except for the golf cart to and from the lounge which comes after LH's limo from your plane!

take the connecting F flight - much more comfortable. The F lounge is ok - but it's not that great. It's in the same category as the CX F lounge HKG, QF F lounges in SYD and MEL and the Lh FCT - but it probably ranks the last in category - except for the golf cart to and from the lounge which comes after LH's limo from your plane!

+1 for taking the connecting flight in F! The F lounge isn't really that special so if I were you, I would head straight to the F spa, get a massage and catch your connecting flight. 1hr30 is maybe just enough time to get this done but even if you get worried about time, there is nothing to stop you asking for a 40min massage instead ^
CX F lounge better than TG F :confused: One could maybe argue that LH F and QF F lounges are (slightly) better than TG however, TG trumps CX F eby a long way IMO! However this might change once the wing reopens after it's refurbish :)

My SO and I, had a great experience last week at the SPA. Traveling in J we received 30 Minute Neck and Shoulder Massages which were terrific. I also love the Ginger Tea they serve afterwards (has a nice kick to it). When we arrived there was no wait at all (around 4 pm on Saturday).

I get into BKK around 3pm and leave around 11:45pm in First. Not to sound totally spoiled, but can I book the full body and the other massages (a total of 2.5 hours) or just one of them?

Hey there TG experts. 2 Quick questions. Flying first all the way: (747) MUC-BKK-USM then HKT-BKK-CDG (777ER).

Inbound, we land at 2:25p and the flight to USM takes off at 3:20. No time for the lounge there. Plus it is a super quick stopover---anyone know, arriving in 1st, if we can request any type of expedited service through immigration and to the domestic connection (which is in Biz, 2 cabin aircraft)?

Outbound. BKK-CDG in 1st, flight leaves at 12:10a. Figure that we would board sometime around 11:30. There are a dozen flights to BKK from HKT and we can arrive almost anytime in the afternoon or evening. How many hours should we plan to layover in BKK to use the spa and lounge? Right now, we land in BKK at 10:05 and take off at 12:10. Should I book an earlier flight? Also, the domestic into BKK is in Biz (2 cabin) but over the water in 1st. Will Thai help us from the connection through immigration to the lounge? Does that service need to be requested?

Many many thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Hey there TG experts. 2 Quick questions. Flying first all the way: (747) MUC-BKK-USM then HKT-BKK-CDG (777ER).

Inbound, we land at 2:25p and the flight to USM takes off at 3:20. No time for the lounge there. Plus it is a super quick stopover---anyone know, arriving in 1st, if we can request any type of expedited service through immigration and to the domestic connection (which is in Biz, 2 cabin aircraft)?

You'll be met at the gate of your aircraft and escorted to the domestic connection. Don't worry!

Outbound. BKK-CDG in 1st, flight leaves at 12:10a. Figure that we would board sometime around 11:30. There are a dozen flights to BKK from HKT and we can arrive almost anytime in the afternoon or evening. How many hours should we plan to layover in BKK to use the spa and lounge? Right now, we land in BKK at 10:05 and take off at 12:10. Should I book an earlier flight? Also, the domestic into BKK is in Biz (2 cabin) but over the water in 1st. Will Thai help us from the connection through immigration to the lounge? Does that service need to be requested?

Many many thanks for sharing your knowledge.

I think you need more time in BKK to fully enjoy the experience. Allow 1.5 hours for relaxing in the lounge (food and drinks are quite good, so you can always have dinner before boarding and then go straight to sleep once the 773ER levels out). Allow another 1.5 to 2.0 hours for the massage (I recommend the 60 minute massage then a 45min soak in the jacuzzi). So arriving BKK around 8pm would be my plan.

You should not need to request assistance. You'll be met at your domestic flight and escorted to the first lounge. If you're not, it's no big deal... relatively short walk.

Thanks. I am coming from the world of UA where nothing happens unless you call 10 times and over-request.

Looks like the only 2 options for getting into BKK at arriving at 8:40p or at 6:50p (our next flt departs at 12:10a)

Which arrival do you all think we'd be better off with? A 5:20 hour layover or a 3:30 layover?

Thanks. I am coming from the world of UA where nothing happens unless you call 10 times and over-request.

Looks like the only 2 options for getting into BKK at arriving at 8:40p or at 6:50p (our next flt departs at 12:10a)

Which arrival do you all think we'd be better off with? A 5:20 hour layover or a 3:30 layover?

take the 5.20 layover.

Land, disembark, security, arrive lounge and get shown around and get drink - 45 mins. Head over to spa +1.5 hours (total 2.15 hours) - head back to lounge for a bite to eat another drink and to do email/check up on news - +1hr - total 3hrs 15 mins. They take you to your plane fairly late - I've been driven down as late as 15 mins prior to scheduled departure time (it won't 30 or 40 minutes before).

If you took the 3:30 layover you're cutting it tight.

Take the 5.20 layover.

I agree. LHR/MEL/Europe FF's plan sounds just about perfect IMO. I've taken that midnight CDG flight in F, and wish that I had eaten more than I did in the lounge. IME the food was better, and body-clock management would have worked better for me if I had just gone to sleep on the flight without wasting the time on a meal.

I get into BKK around 3pm and leave around 11:45pm in First. Not to sound totally spoiled, but can I book the full body and the other massages (a total of 2.5 hours) or just one of them?

You get one massage.

take the 5.20 layover.

Land, disembark, security, arrive lounge and get shown around and get drink - 45 mins. Head over to spa +1.5 hours (total 2.15 hours) - head back to lounge for a bite to eat another drink and to do email/check up on news - +1hr - total 3hrs 15 mins. They take you to your plane fairly late - I've been driven down as late as 15 mins prior to scheduled departure time (it won't 30 or 40 minutes before).

If you took the 3:30 layover you're cutting it tight.

Put some time into this? ;)

You get one massage.

dsq is correct - only one massage (although I'm sure others may have enjoyed numerous consecutive massages) and the type of massage is partially decided by class of travel. If you're departing in TG first, you can select (a) the 30 minute head & shoulders; or (b) the 30 minute foot massage; or (c) the 60 minute full body massage (with optional soak in the jacuzzi). If you're departing in TG business, your choices are limited to (a) and (b). You seem to be in F, so you're good!

Re dining, having a nice meal in the Royal First lounge and sleeping as soon as your plane levels out (or after the caviar service) is a very good option. You can supplement your nice meal with 3 x margaritas (or 4 if that's your thing ;) ). Remember you can have the meal in the little (semi private) sitting rooms, the general lounge area, or the dining area (I recommend either the former or the latter).

The CDG flight leaves after midnight and gets in around 7am, so using the comfy suites for a good 9 hours of sleep is worthwhile.

Put some time into this? ;)

Got to admire careful planning to squeeze ever drop of fun out of transit!

Any recent experiences of passengers arriving international F and departing international C on which massage type they get? I'm flying in on FRA-BKK and leaving BKK-SIN and was really looking forward to the full massage, but no 3-class planes on BKK-SIN.

Got to admire careful planning to squeeze ever drop of fun out of transit!

Indeed I do. I like the generous time allotted for drinks as well. :D

Any recent experiences of passengers arriving international F and departing international C on which massage type they get? I'm flying in on FRA-BKK and leaving BKK-SIN and was really looking forward to the full massage, but no 3-class planes on BKK-SIN.

Asked and answered many times. Massage eligibility is decided by class of departure:

TG International F - 60 minute full body massage (with optional jacuzzi soak) OR 30 min head & shoulder massage OR 30 min foot massage

TG International Bus - 30 min head & shoulder massage OR 30 min foot massage

That's the official policy and YMMV. Unofficially, some pax (esp TG*Ps) have received the full one hour massage when departing in TG international business (subsequent to arrival in TG F).

Indeed I do. I like the generous time allotted for drinks as well. :D

Yes, the cocktail list is rather inviting! I guess your two options are drink faster... or stay in the lounge longer. Doing both? Hmm...

Asked and answered many times. Massage eligibility is decided by class of departure:

TG International F - 60 minute full body massage (with optional jacuzzi soak) OR 30 min head & shoulder massage OR 30 min foot massage

TG International Bus - 30 min head & shoulder massage OR 30 min foot massage

That's the official policy and YMMV. Unofficially, some pax (esp TG*Ps) have received the full one hour massage when departing in TG international business (subsequent to arrival in TG F).

I understand that is the official policy and MMMV. Was just hoping for some recent actual experiences as opposed to MMMV.

Indeed I do. I like the generous time allotted for drinks as well. :D

Sitting in a dungeon-like office in Ukraine working on a near-impossible project. Planning this trip is the only thing keeping me sane. Plus it keeps me typing on my computer so everyone thinks I am working the necessary 17 hours a day :)

Just to add that you can ask to swap the 1 hour oil massage for the 2x30 min biz class massages - so if you are F you can get 30 min head AND 30 min foot back to back.

I understand that is the official policy and MMMV. Was just hoping for some recent actual experiences as opposed to MMMV.

YMMV and MMHV (that's "has" in case you're wondering). In fact, it has happened to me twice - F int arrival and J int departure, and I've received the 60 min full body massage. On other occasions, I've just received the 30 minute massage. Perhaps a function of how busy the spa is? Perhaps just luck? Others will post their experiences, I'm sure.

As LHR/MEL/Europe FF has said, you can get 2x30min massages but I really think this is an inferior experience to the 60 minute massage (which is fabulous - on more than one occasion I've fallen asleep during the massage and woken up feeling ultra-relaxed and "light"... hope that makes some sense). For various reasons, of course, some may prefer the 2x30 option.

YMMV and MMHV (that's "has" in case you're wondering). In fact, it has happened to me twice - F int arrival and J int departure, and I've received the 60 min full body massage. On other occasions, I've just received the 30 minute massage. Perhaps a function of how busy the spa is? Perhaps just luck? Others will post their experiences, I'm sure.

As LHR/MEL/Europe FF has said, you can get 2x30min massages but I really think this is an inferior experience to the 60 minute massage (which is fabulous - on more than one occasion I've fallen asleep during the massage and woken up feeling ultra-relaxed and "light"... hope that makes some sense). For various reasons, of course, some may prefer the 2x30 option.

krup krup YMMV. I don't like the 60 min massage - oil doesn't interest me. And I prefer a firm massage for both the shoulders and feet. So I' happy with the 2x30 :)

krup krup YMMV. I don't like the 60 min massage - oil doesn't interest me. And I prefer a firm massage for both the shoulders and feet. So I' happy with the 2x30 :)

Fair enough. Remember you can request no oil for the 60 min massage. You can also instruct them how to massage, so can have just feet and head/shoulders while enjoying the private jacuzzi massage suites.

As for firm, it amazes me how much power some of those massage girls have in their hands... really does wonders for those battle weary, tired and knotted up muscles!

Yes, the cocktail list is rather inviting! I guess your two options are drink faster... or stay in the lounge longer. Doing both? Hmm...

Cocktail list? Meh.

I just instruct them to fill the glass to a certain level with vodka and then add OJ (in the morning) or soda (all other times) until topped off.

Before beginning this method I found the cocktails weak. Since then it's never been a problem. :D

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Re dining, having a nice meal in the Royal First lounge and sleeping as soon as your plane levels out (or after the caviar service) is a very good option. You can supplement your nice meal with 3 x margaritas (or 4 if that's your thing ;) ).
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Got to admire careful planning to squeeze ever drop of fun out of transit!

bold mine.

Something special about these? I have to say that a margarita is not the first drink that comes to mind in the Royal First Lounge...maybe I am missing something?

bold mine.

Something special about these? I have to say that a margarita is not the first drink that comes to mind in the Royal First Lounge...maybe I am missing something?

To each his own!

OK thanks.

I thought maybe it was a lounge specialty or something. I enjoy well made margaritas, so if they were something special I would give it a try on my next visit.

Who knows, now that you put the thought into my mind, I might give them a try anyway. :)

OK thanks.

I thought maybe it was a lounge specialty or something. I enjoy well made margaritas, so if they were something special I would give it a try on my next visit.

Who knows, now that you put the thought into my mind, I might give them a try anyway. :)

Not sure why, but I find a margarita is the perfect drink for the tropics, and a lovely preparation for a long flight!

Margarita, Singapore Sling, Long Island iced-tea... give them all a try ;)

I've read many of the helpful entries and now I'm overwhelmed and indecisive. I have a few flights booked over the next 2 months in F and would really appreciate some guidance; I really haven't bothered much with the TG lounges as I tend to have tight connections, but this time is different.
-Next week
Ticket 1 ZRH-BKK F; Ticket 2 BKK- HKT C: The flight arrives at 05:30 and I can take the 1st flight out (approx. 2hr layover) , or delay it longer. I know I can do the immigration as I make the connection to domestic, but it can be hit or miss. My bag will be checked thru to HKT. (My flight is originating in North America on *A J class.) Will TG have someone meet me as I am using 2 tickets? Not that I need an escort, but sometimes the line at the immigration transfer desk is long.In march it was 2 minutes, but in April 25 minutes.

On the return, the ZRH flight is at 00:30 AM. The flights from HKT in August are notoriously late because of the rain and now with the runway issues it's a crapshoot.. In order to get the most out of the F lounge in BKK, what time should I get into BKK, and again will anyone facilitate my transfer. I prefer to clear immigration in HKT even though there is no fast track, but if there is fast track via the lounge I don't mind checking in again with my bag in BKK. I don't mind arriving in the afternoon and taking a dayroom at the Novotel if need be, but it's a bit of a waste I think. My real concern is getting to BKK. I usually take the flights from 14:30-16:30 from HKT and flight has been late from 1-2 hours in the past year.
Do any of you folks eat dinner in the F lounge before getting on the plane? It's an 11 hour flight and aside from eating, it is boring. I wouldn't mind getting 7-8 hours of sleep as I have another 12 hours of flying and layovers combined once I get to Zrh. Tight schedule this trip, but I'm hoping to sleep on the plane as alllong haul flights have beds.
Thanks in advance.

-Next week
Ticket 1 ZRH-BKK F; Ticket 2 BKK- HKT C: The flight arrives at 05:30 and I can take the 1st flight out (approx. 2hr layover) , or delay it longer. I know I can do the immigration as I make the connection to domestic, but it can be hit or miss. My bag will be checked thru to HKT. (My flight is originating in North America on *A J class.) Will TG have someone meet me as I am using 2 tickets? Not that I need an escort, but sometimes the line at the immigration transfer desk is long.In march it was 2 minutes, but in April 25 minutes.

Your flight from ZRH is on TG? I would call TG and alert them to the connecting flight. In the absence of that the PA meeting you upon arrival will be expecting to take you to baggage.

There's been a back and forth regarding F lounge access for pax making a domestic connection. A few days ago someone reported doing this with no problem, but it's far from being guaranteed.

On the return, the ZRH flight is at 00:30 AM. The flights from HKT in August are notoriously late because of the rain and now with the runway issues it's a crapshoot.. In order to get the most out of the F lounge in BKK, what time should I get into BKK, and again will anyone facilitate my transfer. I prefer to clear immigration in HKT even though there is no fast track, but if there is fast track via the lounge I don't mind checking in again with my bag in BKK. I don't mind arriving in the afternoon and taking a dayroom at the Novotel if need be, but it's a bit of a waste I think. My real concern is getting to BKK. I usually take the flights from 14:30-16:30 from HKT and flight has been late from 1-2 hours in the past year.
Do any of you folks eat dinner in the F lounge before getting on the plane? It's an 11 hour flight and aside from eating, it is boring. I wouldn't mind getting 7-8 hours of sleep as I have another 12 hours of flying and layovers combined once I get to Zrh. Tight schedule this trip, but I'm hoping to sleep on the plane as alllong haul flights have beds.
Thanks in advance.

If you desire to check bags through to your destination then you'll need to go through immigration at HKT. seanthepilot regales a different experience, but this has always been the way i understand it to work.

In the absence of immigration at HKT you'd simply go checkin at the F aisle in row A, door 1.

Again, call TG and alert them to your HKT-BKK flight. If you have gone through immigration in HKT they will escort you through the process of getting into the international area.

Finally, the runway work has been concluded so it's not an issue.

Your flight from ZRH is on TG? I would call TG and alert them to the connecting flight. In the absence of that the PA meeting you upon arrival will be expecting to take you to baggage.

There's been a back and forth regarding F lounge access for pax making a domestic connection. A few days ago someone reported doing this with no problem, but it's far from being guaranteed.



If you desire to check bags through to your destination then you'll need to go through immigration at HKT. seanthepilot regales a different experience, but this has always been the way i understand it to work.

In the absence of immigration at HKT you'd simply go checkin at the F aisle in row A, door 1.

Again, call TG and alert them to your HKT-BKK flight. If you have gone through immigration in HKT they will escort you through the process of getting into the international area.

Finally, the runway work has been concluded so it's not an issue.

Thank you for the response. This ticket is paid, However, I have an international reward ticket in First for October. Will I be able to access the lounges? I have asked about access in respect to the MLL lounges in an AC thread, but some airlines have their own policies in their hubs, and with TG I never know what the policies are, which is why I am asking the pros on a TG thread about TG.

Thank you for the response. This ticket is paid, However, I have an international reward ticket in First for October. Will I be able to access the lounges? I have asked about access in respect to the MLL lounges in an AC thread, but some airlines have their own policies in their hubs, and with TG I never know what the policies are, which is why I am asking the pros on a TG thread about TG.

*A lounges do not discriminate paid vs award tix; entry rules are the same.

I'm not sure I follow the rest of your question.

Thank you for the response. This ticket is paid, However, I have an international reward ticket in First for October. Will I be able to access the lounges? I have asked about access in respect to the MLL lounges in an AC thread, but some airlines have their own policies in their hubs, and with TG I never know what the policies are, which is why I am asking the pros on a TG thread about TG.


I have an award ticket and I am in the First Class Lounge right now. Holy Cow! This is the best experience ever! MNL-BKK-FRA. When I stepped off the plane onto the Jet bridge, someone had a sign with my name on it. We walk off the jet bridge and he takes me by golf cart like vehicle. I get to Royal First Lounge and they cater to me like I am royalty. I get an hour massage and take a relaxing shower. Bring a change of clothes if you are passing through.

Great place to get work done and relax. This is living the life!

I have an award ticket and I am in the First Class Lounge right now. Holy Cow! This is the best experience ever! MNL-BKK-FRA. When I stepped off the plane onto the Jet bridge, someone had a sign with my name on it. We walk off the jet bridge and he takes me by golf cart like vehicle. I get to Royal First Lounge and they cater to me like I am royalty. I get an hour massage and take a relaxing shower. Bring a change of clothes if you are passing through.

Great place to get work done and relax. This is living the life!

Glad to hear you enjoyed the Royal First lounge experience. There are the little private rooms, dining room, slumber rooms, shower rooms... plus the attentive, friendly, nothing-is-too-much-trouble service and the Royal First Spa experience! Yes, treated like royalty? Almost!

Hi,

I'm arriving on TG661 from HND at 04:50am and connect to TG475 to SYD at 1945.
Plan was to go to the lounge have breakfast, do some stuff and schedule an appointment for the 1hr massage at 06:00am when the spa opens.
After that head towards town for some Bangkok time.
Question now, is it possible to have another massage after my day in town and before the onward flight or should I look for sth in the city to get prepped up for the flight?

Hi,

I'm arriving on TG661 from HND at 04:50am and connect to TG475 to SYD at 1945.
Plan was to go to the lounge have breakfast, do some stuff and schedule an appointment for the 1hr massage at 06:00am when the spa opens.
After that head towards town for some Bangkok time.
Question now, is it possible to have another massage after my day in town and before the onward flight or should I look for sth in the city to get prepped up for the flight?

You have a good plan but you'll only get one massage in the ROP Spa Lounge. Plan accordingly.

You have a good plan but you'll only get one massage in the ROP Spa Lounge. Plan accordingly.

iirc they stamp your boarding pass once you've had a spa treatment?

iirc they stamp your boarding pass once you've had a spa treatment?

They didn't stamp mine, but you do sign a document so they know if you've had one already

Ok thanks.
Will then maybe get another treat in town.

is it customary to tip for the massage?

is it customary to tip for the massage?

No, it's not.

While tipping is not inappropriate in Thailand, I'm not sure if it is permitted for the spa staff to receive tips. Anyone have any more thoughts?

No, it's not.

While tipping is not inappropriate in Thailand, I'm not sure if it is permitted for the spa staff to receive tips. Anyone have any more thoughts?

It is perfectly legit to tip spa staff; I have on two occasions (40/50 THB) after getting a neck/shoulder massage that I didn't want to end.

It is perfectly legit to tip spa staff; I have on two occasions (40/50 THB) after getting a neck/shoulder massage that I didn't want to end.

no offence but couldn't tipping $1 from a business or First class passenger for a massage be considered more insulting than expressing gratitude?

no offence but couldn't tipping $1 from a business or First class passenger for a massage be considered more insulting than expressing gratitude?

No offense, but that is a rather absurd question considering they infrequently get tipped at all. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

No offense, but that is a rather absurd question. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

not an absurd question at all. I would rather not tip and treat the service provider as a professional than leave a tip of a dollar when I have spent thousands on a premium cabin fare (and they know it). Just kinda seems a bit insulting.

I tipped 300 Baht last time for the 1 hour spa massage. I felt it was appropriate for the services rendered. Going back tomorrow and will tip the same.

I tipped 300 Baht last time for the 1 hour spa massage. I felt it was appropriate for the services rendered. Going back tomorrow and will tip the same.

^ that certainly seems more appropriate

I'm going to head this one off before it gets personal, as it is wont to do when discussed on FT. So I'll close this discussion in this thread (but the thread, of course, remains open) by saying that tipping habits, customs and expectations are different in different places in the world. If you would like to continue this discussion, please do so here: Tipping in Thailand (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thailand/896889-tipping-thailand.html). Thanks!!

Ok, I just finished a quick bite in the dining area of the lounge. The meal was served awfully quick (rice with gai and some vegetables). I just realized, that they took the prepared rations and microwaved it. My Kkao phad wasn't made to order. Rather bland too. Had a massage earlier. When I booked it, they put me down for a 30 minute job. Courtesy of the pros in this thread, I added on the hand and arm option (for another 30 minutes.) I haven't been in this lounge in eons. I see they have a refrigerator/smoking room. If you are hot, walk in there. Few if any smokers and its at least 5-10C cooler than the main lounge.
Know what was fun, the 2 seater cart that scoots you to the lounge from immigration. Have you ever noticed that there are no sideguards. I wonder how many people have fallen out. I had fun driving over, the guy was really moving fast.
You guys that fly F class on TG have it easy. I skipped immigration in HKT because I wanted to see how you hiso folk are treated, and I'm envious. 3 private immigration desks, with no line. Even the security people are very, very, polite. what a difference from my business class flight from HKT where there was no priority boarding and we were crowded onto a bus for transport to the terminal in BKK. As this is low season, you know what kind of people were on that flight, so the shoving and yelling on the bus was bonus.

Know what was fun, the 2 seater cart that scoots you to the lounge from immigration. Have you ever noticed that there are no sideguards. I wonder how many people have fallen out.


Is this tongue in cheek? It's difficult to ascertain.

Is this tongue in cheek? It's difficult to ascertain.

Actually, on a serious note, it is dangerous. I mention it as a laugh at danger sort of thing. The metal handle on the lower right is basically to assist when climbing in or out, but no side guards. If my driver was behind the wheel when some elderly person was on the cart, I could see some dowager getting flung off when he does the turn.

Actually, on a serious note, it is dangerous. I mention it as a laugh at danger sort of thing. The metal handle on the lower right is basically to assist when climbing in or out, but no side guards. If my driver was behind the wheel when some elderly person was on the cart, I could see some dowager getting flung off when he does the turn.

I am certain people are safe and the danger very minimal... That said, depends how much Dom one has consumed! :p

Cheers,

AG. :-:

I am certain people are safe and the danger very minimal... That said, depends how much Dom one has consumed! :p

Cheers,

AG. :-:

I believe transpacificflyer is talking about the cart that takes F pax from the bottom of the escalator, past immigration, through the D concourse lounge and on to the F lounge.

If so they probably haven't had any Dom... potentially some Sang Som, maybe a cocktail with DEET, but likely no Dom. ;)

I believe transpacificflyer is talking about the cart that takes F pax from the bottom of the escalator, past immigration, through the D concourse lounge and on to the F lounge.

If so they probably haven't had any Dom... potentially some Sang Som, maybe a cocktail with DEET, but likely no Dom. ;)

Oh, I see... I normally just transit through BKK...

And I am always Dom'ed! :D

Cheers,

AG. :-:

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access

I was just denied entry into the F lounge. I arrived in BKK from FRA on TG in F and connecting to SQ in C (2 class aircraft). I was told that if my connecting flight to SIN was on TG in C instead of SQ than I would be allowed in. The lounge supervisor insisted that pax arriving on TG F and connecting to *A C must use the C lounge, and that this has always been the policy. She eventually let me in, supposedly as a "one time exception"

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access

I was just denied entry into the F lounge. I arrived in BKK from FRA on TG in F and connecting to SQ in C (2 class aircraft). I was told that if my connecting flight to SIN was on TG in C instead of SQ than I would be allowed in. The lounge supervisor insisted that pax arriving on TG F and connecting to *A C must use the C lounge, and that this has always been the policy. She eventually let me in, supposedly as a "one time exception"

Had exact same itinerary a few weeks ago and was brought to SQ C lounge. I thought the food was very good.

I did not ask about going to TG F lounge because we had a brief layover, and would be able to use the TG F lounge on our departure a week later. (BTW, the F lounge was a great experience.)

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access

I was just denied entry into the F lounge. I arrived in BKK from FRA on TG in F and connecting to SQ in C (2 class aircraft). I was told that if my connecting flight to SIN was on TG in C instead of SQ than I would be allowed in. The lounge supervisor insisted that pax arriving on TG F and connecting to *A C must use the C lounge, and that this has always been the policy. She eventually let me in, supposedly as a "one time exception"

That has always been my understanding of the lounge entry structure with the caveat that other people have posted about gaining entry on itins such as yours.

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y or *A C = FCL access

I was just denied entry into the F lounge. I arrived in BKK from FRA on TG in F and connecting to SQ in C (2 class aircraft). I was told that if my connecting flight to SIN was on TG in C instead of SQ than I would be allowed in. The lounge supervisor insisted that pax arriving on TG F and connecting to *A C must use the C lounge, and that this has always been the policy. She eventually let me in, supposedly as a "one time exception"

Yikes! I have about the same itin as you in a few weeks with about a 3 hr layover in BKK. I was really hoping to use the F lounge and spa. Can anyone suggest any strageties that might help my chances of getting in the F lounge? If I don't get in do I go to the TG C lounge? Are there showers there, and can I still get a C massage and then shower? Or is the SQ C lounge better. Can anyone comment on that? Thanks.

Yikes! I have about the same itin as you in a few weeks with about a 3 hr layover in BKK. I was really hoping to use the F lounge and spa. Can anyone suggest any strageties that might help my chances of getting in the F lounge? If I don't get in do I go to the TG C lounge? Are there showers there, and can I still get a C massage and then shower? Or is the SQ C lounge better. Can anyone comment on that? Thanks.

you can only access the TG spa when you next onward flight is on tg. so flying out on sq no access.

What's the option to store carry-ons? I have quite a long layover coming up and plan to take a trip in the city, however don't wanna take my laptop.
Do they lock them away? Any other, locked, storage possibilities at BKK?

Yikes! I have about the same itin as you in a few weeks with about a 3 hr layover in BKK. I was really hoping to use the F lounge and spa. Can anyone suggest any strageties that might help my chances of getting in the F lounge? If I don't get in do I go to the TG C lounge? Are there showers there, and can I still get a C massage and then shower? Or is the SQ C lounge better. Can anyone comment on that? Thanks.

I do prefer the SQ lounge over the TG lounges (other than TG F) however you'll need to head over to the TG lounges for a shower.

If you're not flying out of BKK on TG then there's no spa access for you.

What's the option to store carry-ons? I have quite a long layover coming up and plan to take a trip in the city, however don't wanna take my laptop.
Do they lock them away? Any other, locked, storage possibilities at BKK?

The F lounge will look after your stuff but I don't believe there's any lockers anywhere in the airport. The left luggage facility is most certainly not a place to leave anything important.

Left luggage (http://www.bangkokairportonline.com/node/134) does look inviting, so maybe not the best option.
Would you leave your carry on, packed with laptop, in the FCL?

Would you leave your carry on, packed with laptop, in the FCL?

Yes, and have done so many times. The staff there are fabulous and will put your luggage aside, with your name and flight details on a little tag, awaiting your return

I cannot remember exactly, but there was a statement some where, that when arriving by LH in BKK (in F) as HON and continuing on TG in C you get access to the TG F lounge. Any experience confirming this?

I cannot remember exactly, but there was a statement some where, that when arriving by LH in BKK (in F) as HON and continuing on TG in C you get access to the TG F lounge. Any experience confirming this?

Seems to be arriving in *A F and departing *A in C will get you into the Royal First lounge.

Certainly arriving in TG F and departing TG C you'll be escorted from your in-bound flight directly to the Royal First lounge.

I cannot remember exactly, but there was a statement some where, that when arriving by LH in BKK (in F) as HON and continuing on TG in C you get access to the TG F lounge. Any experience confirming this?

Seems to be arriving in OW F and departing OW in C will get you into the Royal First lounge.

OW??

I cannot remember exactly, but there was a statement some where, that when arriving by LH in BKK (in F) as HON and continuing on TG in C you get access to the TG F lounge. Any experience confirming this?

This will be difficult to confirm as the number of HON members arriving under these conditions is small and the number of HONs on this board is nil.

You might want to throw out this query in the LH forum.

OW??

OneWorld.

OneWorld.

That's what I thought, of course, and why it didn't make sense to me. I see that hgp has revised his post.

Seems to be arriving in *A Fand departing *A in C will get you into the Royal First lounge.


I have heard this mentioned as doable but haven't heard of it working in practice. YMMV.

Will report here back after my experience end of October.

Hi all,

So, I've done TG 1st quite a few times and have enjoyed the hour massages and showers post massage. I am just wondering after reading this thread, what do I have to do if I wanted a bath or use that funny steamy jet things that is in the first massage room that doesn't have a bath in it? Do I just ask them? Before the massage? After? Or when I book the massage?

I'm flying through in Jan on the 380. Excited and would love to enhance the trip with a bath!

Thanks in advance for your help.

Are the lounge and spa services still good for those "only" in business class.

The 2 of us will be going in business class on Thai from ICN to PER and then from PER to SIN, via Bangkok. We will have time to go to a lounge in both cases.

By the way, I understand that I have options to access more than a TG lounge - perhaps also a SQ lounge? How would the 2 compare for business class passengers?

Are the lounge and spa services still good for those "only" in business class.

The 2 of us will be going in business class on Thai from ICN to PER and then from PER to SIN, via Bangkok. We will have time to go to a lounge in both cases.

By the way, I understand that I have options to access more than a TG lounge - perhaps also a SQ lounge? How would the 2 compare for business class passengers?

Yes, lounge and spa are available for J passengers as well, but spa treatments are more limited

http://www.thaiairways.com/thai-services/on-the-ground/en/royal-orchid-spa.htm

We didn't visit any other lounges in BKK, but generally my gut tells me that a carrier that is based at an airport will generally have the best lounge at that airport. Not always true, but quite often the case. And since those lounges are TG's flagship lounges, I'd expect nothing else at BKK to top them.

Are the lounge and spa services still good for those "only" in business class.

The 2 of us will be going in business class on Thai from ICN to PER and then from PER to SIN, via Bangkok. We will have time to go to a lounge in both cases.

By the way, I understand that I have options to access more than a TG lounge - perhaps also a SQ lounge? How would the 2 compare for business class passengers?

I believe the D lounge is the superior lounge as it is generally only available for business class passengers, not star alliance gold - they have to use the other lounges. Others will disagree or say they can tell no difference between the lounges, but my family members are firmly of the opinion that the other TG offerings are inferior.

We didn't visit any other lounges in BKK, but generally my gut tells me that a carrier that is based at an airport will generally have the best lounge at that airport. Not always true, but quite often the case. And since those lounges are TG's flagship lounges, I'd expect nothing else at BKK to top them.

IMO you'd be incorrect at BKK.

I find the BKK SKL superior to TG with the exception of plumbing.

I believe the D lounge is the superior lounge as it is generally only available for business class passengers, not star alliance gold - they have to use the other lounges. Others will disagree or say they can tell no difference between the lounges, but my family members are firmly of the opinion that the other TG offerings are inferior.

Well if you are wanting to shower then forget the D lounge... how a lounge could be considered superior without showers I don't know.

The C lounge is my favourite, the one facing out to the runway. At least the view is more pleasant and it's much nearer to most of the gates.

The food and beverage is the same and the D lounge is often just as busy if not busier than the other ones.

I think it's odd that if you arrive on TG F and connect to TG C (two-class aircraft) that you are denied access to the F Spa. I know some people report being offered access, but I would like to know if that is based on availability at time of asking or if that is based on the person who is being asked? It is not fair that the destination of the person (which may not be large/profitable enough to have an F cabin) determines where an F pax goes for their spa treatment in BKK. If they paid for an F ticket, they should get F lounge/spa access. The connecting flight not offering an F cabin is similar to connecting to a regional jet flight in the US, pax still deserve the appropriate premium services.

I have never flown Delta, but I imagine if you fly First class with them, they give you a First class lounge with all the trappings and if you fly business, they give you a business class lounge, it is the same with Thai. Yes I have read also, that some passengers have been admitted to the spa, even though they haven't been flying First, but there is a designated First class massage area, different to the spa, and different to the business class massage and I think they may have been directed to that area. If you do business in Asia, you learn, that the higher you go up, the more likelyhood is that the answer will be positive, and for a period there was a system in place where you could get in. Times have moved on.

I understand your comment regarding flying first and business, what you are saying is that it is not your fault they don't offer first, yet an airline would assume if you are flying into their home base in First, that you would return that way so whilst you would enjoy an alliance lounge coming your lasting impression would be their flagship lounge on your return. The other problem for them was/is the smarties would catch on & only pay for economy. Business is usually 3 times the price of economy and First is double business. Last time it took no time between the post to appear here and the floodgates opening with paxs arriving clutching economy tickets to Phuket.

My first question, please be kind. Mrs & junior (will be 2 &1/2 then) are booked on TG472 from Sydney connecting to TG970 to Zurich (August 2013). Sydney flight arrives at 10.15pm and the flight to Zurich departs at 12.30am. they are booked in J/C class.
My question is which lounge would be the best to use from convenience point of view (ie to avoid long walks to and from gates) and from kids activities/corner point of view? I guess the only must is that showers are available.
Return flights are TG971 and TG471 with arrival at 5.30am and departure at 8am.
Thank you

My first question, please be kind. Mrs & junior (will be 2 &1/2 then) are booked on TG472 from Sydney connecting to TG970 to Zurich (August 2013). Sydney flight arrives at 10.15pm and the flight to Zurich departs at 12.30am. they are booked in J/C class.
My question is which lounge would be the best to use from convenience point of view (ie to avoid long walks to and from gates) and from kids activities/corner point of view? I guess the only must is that showers are available.
Return flights are TG971 and TG471 with arrival at 5.30am and departure at 8am.
Thank you

the lounge on the D concourse is the best lounge - and located immediately opposite the spa where you can have a 30 minute foot or shoulder massage.

The other lounges are star gold lounges and allow economy class passengers access. My view is that the D lounge is much better, but there are difference of opinion.

Will report here back after my experience end of October.

Just arrived in LH F from FRA in transit to RGN. It was no problem to get access (escorted) to the THAI F lounge as HON. It seems to be one of the soft perks of HON. That applies also, when arriving in C as HON.

the lounge on the D concourse is the best lounge - and located immediately opposite the spa where you can have a 30 minute foot or shoulder massage.

The other lounges are star gold lounges and allow economy class passengers access. My view is that the D lounge is much better, but there are difference of opinion.

Thanks for that.

I was given access no questions asked for a one-hour massage. I arrived F class MXP-BKK and was departing C class BKK-DPS.

I was given access no questions asked for a one-hour massage. I arrived F class MXP-BKK and was departing C class BKK-DPS.

thanks for the heads up! my folks will be doing a similar connection in a couple of weeks and i know they will appreciate being able to ask for a one hour treatment.

I'm traveling next month arriving into BKK from SYD in F and leaving 10 hours later to PVG in C, but technically the departing flight is the next day being at 1:10 am, can i assume that i will have access or is this one of those "not sure" scenario.

Also, is it worth it to spend such a long time in the lounge as oppose to going out and seeing the city, I've heard many good things about it, but is it really that good?

More experienced Bangkok-ers may have other advice, but this is how I would roll a 10 hour layover (most times are pretty conservative and have much buffer built in).

1:10a flt
11:00p Arrive at airport. Spend time post check-in in lounge.
6-11pm Get dinner in BKK, walking tour.
5pm-Arrive city center
4pm leave airport
3pm Land

Given the time you will get into the city due to landing and traffic, you will probably miss the opening times of some of the attractions, but you can do a great walking tour within the block of time you have and get a great meal in the city. You can even take the train back if you do not want to cab-it.

With a layover that long, I'd vote for at leave 3-4 hours wandering the streets of BKK.

I'm traveling next month arriving into BKK from SYD in F and leaving 10 hours later to PVG in C, but technically the departing flight is the next day being at 1:10 am, can i assume that i will have access or is this one of those "not sure" scenario.

You will have guaranteed access to the F class lounge during that period. Remember to hang on to your boarding pass stub for the SYD-BKK flight just to make things easier.

Also, is it worth it to spend such a long time in the lounge as oppose to going out and seeing the city, I've heard many good things about it, but is it really that good?

No lounge in the world is worth spending 10 hours in.. All you can do is just sit, read, eat, drink and watch TV ;) With 10 hours I would definitely be going into town to see some sights/visit a spa etc. Aim to get back to the airport so you have a good 2 hours or so of lounge time... This is plenty of time to enjoy everything the lounge has to offer and get a 30min massage at the same time ^

I know in the first post there is mention of TG F --> *A C giving FCL access. To date I've only connected to TG C so I'd just like confirmation that an onward connection on SQ BKK-SIN in C will get a buggy and FCL, though obviously not Spa Lounge.

Sitting in FCL now and they have run out of crackers to my cheese!! life sucks sometimes... :D

Sitting in FCL now and they have run out of crackers to my cheese!! life sucks sometimes... :D


Tell them you want another hour long massage to make up for cracker-gate!!!

Tell them you want another hour long massage to make up for cracker-gate!!!

Then i will miss my flight but will write a loooong letter about the complaint when home again!

Here is the evidence:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/lamai64/IMG_3387.jpg


;)

for me that's perfect!! never liked crackers with cheese... it seems to be a British thing. French always serve bread and cheese. much nicer :)

for me that's perfect!! never liked crackers with cheese... it seems to be a British thing. French always serve bread and cheese. much nicer :)

I'm fine with bread or simply cheese. If crackers are offered they're typically left over when the cheese has already been devoured. ;)

I'm arriving into BKK at 8pm on TG Intl F, and leaving on a TG Intl C flight (which is a 2 cabin flight with no F cabin) the next morning at 8am.

Does anyone know if I be given access to the spa (and lounge) the first evening after my arrival?

I'm arriving into BKK at 8pm on TG Intl F, and leaving on a TG Intl C flight (which is a 2 cabin flight with no F cabin) the next morning at 8am.

Does anyone know if I be given access to the spa (and lounge) the first evening after my arrival?

If you are staying at the airport in transit you will be taken from the plane to the F class lounge. You will be entitled to a 30 minute spa treatment as a departing C class passenger (some have been lucky and reported an hour treatment in these cases, but you should only expect a 30 minute).

The lounge closes at some time I think for a few hours. I forget what the arrangements are for those times. The next morning I would expect you can use the F lounge again until departure (just show your incoming F BP).

If you are leaving the airport (which is a good idea if you can - lots of local hotels for about USD40 a night for a basic room including free return transfers), then the buggy can take you straight through to immigration and then assist you into the car.

I'm arriving into BKK at 8pm on TG Intl F, and leaving on a TG Intl C flight (which is a 2 cabin flight with no F cabin) the next morning at 8am.

Does anyone know if I be given access to the spa (and lounge) the first evening after my arrival?

The last time I tried this was after arriving into BKK at 10:30PM with a 8AM departure.

Assuming all is the same you'll be taken to the F lounge upon arrival where you can hang out, eat, drink and relax. At 1:30AM you'll need to get your stuff together and head out until 5AM when they reopen. Having access to Priority Pass, open 24 hours, is the only way I'd do this. Alternatively heading to a local hotel or into town.

Upon arrival in the morning they should have your itin taped to the entry desk so staff know your onward C BP is part of an F arrival.

In the evening have staff schedule a massage for when the Spa opens at 6AM if you want a morning massage. As the lounge opens at 5 it also allows you time to have a shower, a quick breakfast (I recommend the khao dtom) and a cocktail/champagne/coffee (whatever is your bent) then head into the massage. If you're given a full hour you have time to come back, grab your stuff and head to your flight. If you only get the 30 minute C massage you still have more time for a quick bite or another drink or two.

The above post seems like it should answer my question, but I just wanted to double check:

I'll be departing at 8am TG F BKK-HKG a few months from now. If I arrive 5am when lounge opens, will I have enough time for a 60 minute treatment assuming I get into the spa at 6am when it opens? Some of these posts make it sound like they take you to your flight rather late, so if that's the case I'm hoping I'll have enough time.

The above post seems like it should answer my question, but I just wanted to double check:

I'll be departing at 8am TG F BKK-HKG a few months from now. If I arrive 5am when lounge opens, will I have enough time for a 60 minute treatment assuming I get into the spa at 6am when it opens? Some of these posts make it sound like they take you to your flight rather late, so if that's the case I'm hoping I'll have enough time.

yes passengers on that flight have enough time for the full 60 minute treatment.

Ok sorry if this has been asked already, I couldn't find a specific mention of it.

Arriving MEL-BKK TG C
Departing BKK-PEK TG Y (no avail. in C)

TG's website say:
Royal Silk Class passengers departing the same day on any THAI-operated flight (a choice of Neck & Shoulder or Foot Massages only)

Royal Silk Class passenger: check
Departing same day on any Thai-operated flight : check

Am I understanding this correctly? I am allowed to use the Royal Spa facilities?

Ok sorry if this has been asked already, I couldn't find a specific mention of it.

Arriving MEL-BKK TG C
Departing BKK-PEK TG Y (no avail. in C)

TG's website say:


Royal Silk Class passenger: check
Departing same day on any Thai-operated flight : check

Am I understanding this correctly? I am allowed to use the Royal Spa facilities?

departing same day: NOT checked. For the lounge you are attempting to access, you are not departing from that airport same day. This is confirmed by the rules on the star alliance website.

You may be entitled to use the business class lounge on arrival as you have flown in on C (emphasis on MAY if you don't have a star gold card, they might let you in if you can show you would have flown C if you could), but you are very unlikely to receive a massage.

I'll give it a shot anyway. I am star gold as well.

I'll give it a shot anyway. I am star gold as well.

according to the TG website, access for star gold is not allowed for the lounge on concourse D which is opposite the spa. Access is only for TG C and star C pax.

Star golds in coach have access to the other lounges on concourses C and E. First hurdle might be getting into the D lounge!

I'll give it a shot anyway. I am star gold as well.

*G will give you lounge access but not Spa Lounge access. Seriously, don't waste your time trying.

Arriving at nearly 5am in TG F, I then have two choices for where I go next (all part of a much longer itinerary): TG F to BKK, or LH F to KUL. The LH flight is preferred, due to the later departure time, though I am interested in the A388 to BKK. Regardless, here's what I think this means for spa access:

TG F to BKK: no brainer -- fit in the an hour massage at 6am.
LH F to KUL: no access to the spa, despite arriving on TG F, but I would get FCL access.

Am I correct? Thanks!

Arriving at nearly 5am in TG F, I then have two choices for where I go next (all part of a much longer itinerary): TG F to BKK, or LH F to KUL. The LH flight is preferred, due to the later departure time, though I am interested in the A388 to BKK. Regardless, here's what I think this means for spa access:

TG F to BKK: no brainer -- fit in the an hour massage at 6am.
LH F to KUL: no access to the spa, despite arriving on TG F, but I would get FCL access.

Am I correct? Thanks!

correct, no access to spa departing on LH. can you clarify your options? you say TG f to bkk... do you mean hkg? (I'm assuming you're arriving into bkk at 5)

personally I'd take LH F

I'll give it a shot anyway. I am star gold as well.

As you are flying ex-BKK in Y, you have no chance of entering the spa... Save yourself the bother and relax in the lounge with a stiff drink! :D

Cheers,

AG. :-:

I have a few hours between my flights in BKK and would like to try the massage. Will I have access to the spa? All flights are in C and I'm *G, fwiw.

I have a few hours between my flights in BKK and would like to try the massage. Will I have access to the spa? All flights are in C and I'm *G, fwiw.

Airlines involved?

I have a few hours between my flights in BKK and would like to try the massage. Will I have access to the spa? All flights are in C and I'm *G, fwiw.

If you are flying Thai business class out of bangkok then you will have access to the spa. If you are flying out of bangkok on another airline in business class you won't.

Thanks! All flights are on TG.

If you are flying Thai business class out of bangkok then you will have access to the spa. If you are flying out of bangkok on another airline in business class you won't.

Thanks! All flights are on TG.

departing business class TG is entitled to a choice of 30 minute massages including foot or neck and shoulder.

Just wanted to report on my TG first experience and access to the lounge.
Arrived in Bangkok from FRA and was picked up in the buggy. They took us to the Singapore Air Business Class lounge because we were departing on a SQ flight to SIN (2 class flight). As soon as I found out they did not even have a toilet... nevermind showers in the SQ lounge, we left and went over to the TG first lounge to see if they would let us in (I have read reports here of people not getting in). No problem getting in. TG lounge was great, fantastic showers, nice and relaxing stay.

On the way back we were departing out of BKK so they brought us directly to the TG first lounge. We went to the spa and got 2 - 1/2 hour massages because the 60 minutes ones were all booked up. The foot massage and back/shoulder massage were great. Overall great experience in the spa.

Just wanted to report on my TG first experience and access to the lounge.
Arrived in Bangkok from FRA and was picked up in the buggy. They took us to the Singapore Air Business Class lounge because we were departing on a SQ flight to SIN (2 class flight). As soon as I found out they did not even have a toilet... nevermind showers in the SQ lounge, we left and went over to the TG first lounge to see if they would let us in (I have read reports here of people not getting in). No problem getting in. TG lounge was great, fantastic showers, nice and relaxing stay.

On the way back we were departing out of BKK so they brought us directly to the TG first lounge. We went to the spa and got 2 - 1/2 hour massages because the 60 minutes ones were all booked up. The foot massage and back/shoulder massage were great. Overall great experience in the spa.


Next time you're in the SQ lounge grab a fresh coconut before you leave.

Going BOM-BKK-SIN-SFO The first two legs are on TG in 2-cabin C. The last is on SQ in F. The connection in SIN is the next day but it is <24 hours so I believe I will get all by BPs when I check in at BOM. I believe I will have access to the spa as a C passenger on a TG flight, but will I get access to the F lounge or only the C lounge?

Also, slightly related, do you think I would have any chance at getting the bump to F on the 747 on the first leg if they decide to open the cabin up, is there any good way to play that?

No F lounge in BKK so make the most the C experience.... enjoy the BKK SQ lounge.

If the 747 is exBOM than inquire at checkin. If it's for the BKK-SIN segment then you will need to wait until arriving in BKK.

I am arriving in TG F SYD-BKK, then departing the next morning BKK-RGN in TG C. It's probably 18 hours between flights. Not same day, but within a 24 hour period, will I be able to access the TG F lounge before my departure to RGN, or stuck with the J lounge?

I imagine this is one of those, try your luck and see situations. I've successfully managed to get the dragons to construe 24 hours as same day even if I had an overnight layover at the OZ F lounge in ICN and the LX FCL in ZRH, so fingers crossed I guess?

I am arriving in TG F SYD-BKK, then departing the next morning BKK-RGN in TG C. It's probably 18 hours between flights. Not same day, but within a 24 hour period, will I be able to access the TG F lounge before my departure to RGN, or stuck with the J lounge?

I imagine this is one of those, try your luck and see situations. I've successfully managed to get the dragons to construe 24 hours as same day even if I had an overnight layover at the OZ F lounge in ICN and the LX FCL in ZRH, so fingers crossed I guess?

I asked the dragons this question last time I was at the F lounge and the official rule is that the flight must be departing the same day as the arrival day of the F flight. Obviously if you are departing just after midnight or 1am this is no problem but otherwise the official answer is no.

However you are right in saying that this is a YMMV situation and there have ben reports of people who have done exactly what you are hoping for so it is always worth just giving it a go when you depart the next day ^

I asked the dragons this question last time I was at the F lounge and the official rule is that the flight must be departing the same day as the arrival day of the F flight. Obviously if you are departing just after midnight or 1am this is no problem but otherwise the official answer is no.

However you are right in saying that this is a YMMV situation and there have ben reports of people who have done exactly what you are hoping for so it is always worth just giving it a go when you depart the next day ^

On several occasions I've enjoyed the F lounge on a 10PM +/- arrival and 8AM departure. As always YMMV.

I asked the dragons this question last time I was at the F lounge and the official rule is that the flight must be departing the same day as the arrival day of the F flight. Obviously if you are departing just after midnight or 1am this is no problem but otherwise the official answer is no.

However you are right in saying that this is a YMMV situation and there have ben reports of people who have done exactly what you are hoping for so it is always worth just giving it a go when you depart the next day ^

YMMV. Just had a F arrival at 4pm and C departure at 8am, and although the buggy's were instructed to take me to immigration, at my request to freshen up in the F lounge I was taken there instead. It helps if you're nice to the staff, they do try to oblige when possible.

I'm arriving on a TG operated flight from FRA, but on the LH codeshare flight number. Onward to SYD on a C award. Will I be granted FCL access?

I hope the fact that SYD being a 3 class destination won't diminish my chances!

I'm arriving on a TG operated flight from FRA, but on the LH codeshare flight number. Onward to SYD on a C award. Will I be granted FCL access?

I hope the fact that SYD being a 3 class destination won't diminish my chances!

Are you arriving into BKK in F?

Are you arriving into BKK in F?
Affirmative :)

I'm arriving on a TG operated flight from FRA, but on the LH codeshare flight number. Onward to SYD on a C award. Will I be granted FCL access?

I hope the fact that SYD being a 3 class destination won't diminish my chances!

If you're connecting to another international destination, you are entitled to access the Royal First Lounge given you're arriving on *A F.

Given you're departing in TG C, you can also enjoy a 30 minute massage in the Royal Orchid Spa.

Happy travels.

If you're connecting to another international destination, you are entitled to access the Royal First Lounge given you're arriving on *A F.

Given you're departing in TG C, you can also enjoy a 30 minute massage in the Royal Orchid Spa.

Happy travels.
Thanks for the reply. I'll be using the LH OLCI BP (if available) so are they able to cross check the pax manifest, in case they don't recognize self printed BPs?

Any F pax that recently had both a 60min massage plus a 30min foot or shoulder treatment? Or has anyone able to get 90min massage done?

Any F pax that recently had both a 60min massage plus a 30min foot or shoulder treatment? Or has anyone able to get 90min massage done?

can I just ask why you ask?? is not one treatment of 60 mins enough?

If you're connecting to another international destination, you are entitled to access the Royal First Lounge given you're arriving on *A F.

That is what the rule USED to be.

Now the rule is you are admitted to the F lounge only at the airport at which you are departing in international F.

Many carriers protect their own passengers by allowing incoming F passengers access to the F lounge when connecting to another flight on the same carrier when F is not available on the second flight (e.g., TG F from LHR to BKK, connecting to SIN when only C is available on the BKK-SIN flight).

Here, the poster has two problems. First, he is on an LH flight number from FRA to BKK (albeit operated by TG) and departing BKK in C when there is F on the connecting flight from BKK to SYD.

Under those circumstances, my bet is that they will not allow him access to the F lounge.

can I just ask why you ask?? is not one treatment of 60 mins enough?

Is there anything wrong in asking or do you find it offensive?

Is there anything wrong in asking or do you find it offensive?

nope. I'm just interested why anyone would be asking if they can have more than one. I know f pax can swap a one hour treatment for 2x30 minute treatments, but no one has asked if they can have 90 minutes.

Just had 1x60min and 1x30min treatments. Requested at first class checkin and agent made a call to spa or F lounge but was't able to confirm. When I got to F lounge, dragon stated they already got my request and will try to accommodate. She stated it'll depend on how busy the spa is and that she'll confirm later while I relaxed in F lounge. When it was time for treatment, I was escorted to lounge and the nice spa receptionist confirmed both treatments. She did say this was an exception and rule is 60min only for F pax. Thanks Royal Orchid Spa. ^.

Does anyone know can I pre book my massage before I check in at the airport if flying F class. In other words, can I call TG now and book 2 weeks ahead of time.

Does anyone know can I pre book my massage before I check in at the airport if flying F class. In other words, can I call TG now and book 2 weeks ahead of time.


Please note that THAI does not accept reservation for all treatments in advance.


http://www.thaiairways.com/thai-services/on-the-ground/en/royal-orchid-spa.htm

Does anyone know can I pre book my massage before I check in at the airport if flying F class. In other words, can I call TG now and book 2 weeks ahead of time.

As stated in the OP of this thread, unfortunately you cannot.

http://www.thaiairways.com/thai-services/on-the-ground/en/royal-orchid-spa.htm
Thanks for the information.

Hi All-

This is an amazing, and somewhat overwhelming thread. I'll admit I'm a FT newbie; but, thanks to FT my wife and I are taking our honeymoon to Bali and Phuket in August.... all in first class!

That being said, We are flying ORD-BRU (United 1st), BRU-BKK(TG 1st), then BKK-DPS (TG Business).

Per the chart, since we are arriving at BKK in TG 1 from BRU, but departing to DPS in Business class (TG C, there isnt TG 1 on that route), we would have access to the C spa correct? We would not have access to the F spa?

We were hoping to snag massages and a shower on our 3:35 layover...

Thanks for any clarifications anyone can offer!

Hi All-

This is an amazing, and somewhat overwhelming thread. I'll admit I'm a FT newbie; but, thanks to FT my wife and I are taking our honeymoon to Bali and Phuket in August.... all in first class!

That being said, We are flying ORD-BRU (United 1st), BRU-BKK(TG 1st), then BKK-DPS (TG Business).

Per the chart, since we are arriving at BKK in TG 1 from BRU, but departing to DPS in Business class (TG C, there isnt TG 1 on that route), we would have access to the C spa correct? We would not have access to the F spa?

We were hoping to snag massages and a shower on our 3:35 layover...

Thanks for any clarifications anyone can offer!

technically you are correct - only access to a C class massage (1 x 30 minute choice of head/shoulder or foot massage).

The spa is a joint first and business class facility, just ax use different areas of it. The spa is located across from the D lounge.

Unfortunately the D lounge doesn't have showers, but the others do, so you might want to arrive, go to the D lounge and have your spa treatment, then head to the C lounge for example for a shower (or vv).

That being said, We are flying ORD-BRU (United 1st), BRU-BKK(TG 1st), then BKK-DPS (TG Business).

Per the chart, since we are arriving at BKK in TG 1 from BRU, but departing to DPS in Business class (TG C, there isnt TG 1 on that route), we would have access to the C spa correct? We would not have access to the F spa?

We were hoping to snag massages and a shower on our 3:35 layover...



The Spa Lounge is a separate entity from the business/first/*G lounges. So, while you would only be eligible for a 30min Business massage you would gain access to the F lounge and be able to shower there.

technically you are correct - only access to a C class massage (1 x 30 minute choice of head/shoulder or foot massage).

The spa is a joint first and business class facility, just ax use different areas of it. The spa is located across from the D lounge.

Unfortunately the D lounge doesn't have showers, but the others do, so you might want to arrive, go to the D lounge and have your spa treatment, then head to the C lounge for example for a shower (or vv).

TG F -> TG C allows F lounge access. OP doesn't have any need to deal with D or C (or E) concourse business/*G lounges.

The Spa Lounge is a separate entity from the business/first/*G lounges. So, while you would only be eligible for a 30min Business massage you would gain access to the F lounge and be able to shower there.



TG F -> TG C allows F lounge access. OP doesn't have any need to deal with D or C (or E) concourse business/*G lounges.

d'oh! yes of course - forgot about that!

Hello,

this is a loooooong thread :), and I did not read all the replies, so please have sympathy with me if this questions had been asked before.
I arrive in Bangkok in C-Class and continue to Stockholm in U (Premium Economy). Usually that means no lounge access in Bangkok, as Premium Economy has no lounge access. Is it possible to access the lounge with my “arrival” (C-Class) boarding pass?
Thanks a lot for your help!

Hello,

this is a loooooong thread :), and I did not read all the replies, so please have sympathy with me if this questions had been asked before.
I arrive in Bangkok in C-Class and continue to Stockholm in U (Premium Economy). Usually that means no lounge access in Bangkok, as Premium Economy has no lounge access. Is it possible to access the lounge with my “arrival” (C-Class) boarding pass?
Thanks a lot for your help!

Under the rules, no.

If I understood correctly, if I arrive on TG F and then depart next day on TG C, I can access F lounge? Can I bring a friend with me or will she has to slum in the business class lounge?

If I understood correctly, if I arrive on TG F and then depart next day on TG C, I can access F lounge? Can I bring a friend with me or will she has to slum in the business class lounge?

When arriving late night with an early morning connection TG F -> TG C I've never had a problem accessing the F lounge. Arriving earlier in the day or leaving later the next make interesting test cases. Let us know. :D

The second question is an interesting one. Technically C pax do not hvae a guest allowance however if you do gain access to the F lounge I would guess they would allow give you guest privileges.

OK - I have searched the forum/s and found some very conflicting responses to my question below, can we get this cleared once, and for all? :)

I am arriving in F from SYD and departing C (as I am heading to SIN who has no F routes), I know I can access the lounge, but can I also have the full spa treatment as an arriving F pax? I have only ever had the full F spa when departing F...?

Cheers,

AG. :-:

OK - I have searched the forum/s and found some very conflicting responses to my question below, can we get this cleared once, and for all? :)

I am arriving in F from SYD and departing C (as I am heading to SIN who has no F routes), I know I can access the lounge, but can I also have the full spa treatment as an arriving F pax? I have only ever had the full F spa when departing F...?

Cheers,

AG. :-:

Type of spa treatment is based on departing flight. For TG F departures, one hour massage is available. For TG C departures, 30 minute massages are available.

Class of travel on arrival flight is not important for the purposes of the spa. As an arriving F pax, you will, however, be able to use the lovely Royal First lounge.

Happy travels.

Type of spa treatment is based on departing flight. For TG F departures, one hour massage is available. For TG C departures, 30 minute massages are available.

Class of travel on arrival flight is not important for the purposes of the spa. As an arriving F pax, you will, however, be able to use the lovely Royal First lounge.

Happy travels.

of course there are reports of people who will say they got an F treatment even though they were flying C on the outbound... but those are the exception rather than the rule. As stated, if you are connecting to C expect just a 30 minute treatment.

of course there are reports of people who will say they got an F treatment even though they were flying C on the outbound... but those are the exception rather than the rule. As stated, if you are connecting to C expect just a 30 minute treatment.

I'm 50% at getting an F spa treatment when connecting F->C (2 of 4). We recently had another of these connections and while I stayed in the lounge making calls my wife was able to get a 45 min massage (that was all the time we had). So she's 1 for 1.

While it's written to say that only F departures are eligible for the 1 hour massage my personal experience is certainly better than an exception.

That said, I've never argued this type of connection demands an F treatment and let the staff tell me what I'm eligible for.

I'm 50% at getting an F spa treatment when connecting F->C (2 of 4). We recently had another of these connections and while I stayed in the lounge making calls my wife was able to get a 45 min massage (that was all the time we had). So she's 1 for 1.

While it's written to say that only F departures are eligible for the 1 hour massage my personal experience is certainly better than an exception.

That said, I've never argued this type of connection demands an F treatment and let the staff tell me what I'm eligible for.


Shhhh!

Shhhh!

I think the important thing, as dsquared37 points out, is that people don't assume rights, and if they are given an option for a one hour they can take it.

Unfortunately some people will look to the experience of others and then demand , till they are blue in the fare, that they get a one hour massage connecting F->C because someone else did. Once people start demanding things we all lose.

I think the important thing, as dsquared37 points out, is that people don't assume rights, and if they are given an option for a one hour they can take it.

Unfortunately some people will look to the experience of others and then demand , till they are blue in the fare, that they get a one hour massage connecting F->C because someone else did. Once people start demanding things we all lose.

Oh, I would never demand... :o Politness is the key to success...!

So, it looks as if it can go one way or another? Perhaps I will just treat it like an aircraft swap to manage my expectations... Then there is no room for disappointment! ^

Cheers,

AG. :-:

Oh, I would never demand... :o Politness is the key to success...!

So, it looks as if it can go one way or another? Perhaps I will just treat it like an aircraft swap to manage my expectations... Then there is no room for disappointment! ^

Cheers,

AG. :-:

It's the ground service equivalent of being TG'd. I call it being Spa'd. :D

I have a long layover connecting from TG F to TG C next week and am hoping to use the Slumber Rooms. Can anyone tell me how many there are and whether they are suitable for getting 5-6 hours sleep?

I am travelling with my partner, but presume each room has just one bed in it, meaning we will need two rooms?

I have a long layover connecting from TG F to TG C next week and am hoping to use the Slumber Rooms. Can anyone tell me how many there are and whether they are suitable for getting 5-6 hours sleep?

I am travelling with my partner, but presume each room has just one bed in it, meaning we will need two rooms?

The F lounge slumber rooms are at the pier A/B/C end of the lounge, opposite the shower rooms. I would say there are ~5 rooms. They've each got a nice chair and comfy day bed (it's not a normal bed) - perfect for comfy rest. There are also slumber cubicles in the pier C and E Royal Orchid/Silk lounges (right hand side lounge as you're looking down the pier) - these would be a good option in the unlikely event the F slumber rooms are full.

As for two rooms with your partner, I guess that depends how comfy the two of you can get on a single bed :D but, yes, two rooms may be easiest if you want some rest.

Many thanks :)

Many thanks :)

Here's a photo of one of the rooms: click here (http://www.hflight.net/forums/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-64-0-82994900-1295201773_thumb.jpg).

It's the ground service equivalent of being TG'd. I call it being Spa'd. :D

Haha... :D I've been spa'd before, but not from TG! ;)

Let's hope it stays that way! ^

Cheers,

AG. :-:

Flying into BKK on TG in Business, and then out the next day to HKT on TG Business as well. Will we have spa access?

Flying into BKK on TG in Business, and then out the next day to HKT on TG as well. Will we have spa access?

International departures get spa access.

International departures get spa access.

D-oh. We leave BKK on OZ. Oh well... next time! Thank you for the quick reply.

I'm flying on a J class reward ticket EWR-MXP-BKK-RGN and returning RGN-BKK-ARN-RGN. One leg I'm in Y due to space (BKK-ARN), of course that's when I have time to use the lounges at BKK. I'm Star Alliance Gold but since I'm actually outbounding in Y am I able to use the Orchid Spa? Or what are my lounge options? Thanks.

I'm flying on a J class reward ticket EWR-MXP-BKK-RGN and returning RGN-BKK-ARN-RGN. One leg I'm in Y due to space (BKK-ARN), of course that's when I have time to use the lounges at BKK. I'm Star Alliance Gold but since I'm actually outbounding in Y am I able to use the Orchid Spa? Or what are my lounge options? Thanks.

star alliance gold won't get you into the spa unfortunately. In fact the Concourse D lounge (opposite the spa) is not available for star gold pax - only those travelling in business class. Star gold has access to the Concourse C and E lounges.

You might be allowed access to the D concourse lounge by virtue of your arriving flight, but be prepared that you may be directed elsewhere (and almost certainly no spa).