Hyatt Gold Passport - Park Hyatt Siem Reap - 2013

Dear FlyerTalkers,

The Hotel De La Paix Siem Reap will be rebranded as the Park Hyatt Siem Reap following a complete renovation. The hotel is expected to open in 2013 and will offer 107 guest rooms and suites, two restaurants, one bar, a bakery, spa, fitness center, and two swimming pools. The hotel is situated nearby the renowned 12th century runis of Angkor and close to more than 1000 temples including Angkor Wat, the world’s largest religious monument.

Happy Travels!

Quite exciting, once it opens, this might get me to finally go there and also to Vietnam!

Great news! The perfect excuse for finally getting to Siem Reap. Something I have been thinking of, but somehow been putting off for years. The only other "major chain" option is the Le Meridien IIRC.

I've stayed at this property and it's utterly fantastic. Can't wait to see what a remodel does to improve an already wonderful little hotel!

Gold Passport Concierge, any idea what point category it will be?

Siem Reap is in Cambodia, not Vietnam. But the Hotel De La Paix is quite a luxurious property. I'd always wanted to stay there since I last visited Siem Reap a couple years ago and now it'll give me a Hyatt option, too. Two birds in one stone!

Siem Reap is in Cambodia, not Vietnam. But the Hotel De La Paix is quite a luxurious property. I'd always wanted to stay there since I last visited Siem Reap a couple years ago and now it'll give me a Hyatt option, too. Two birds in one stone!

I am wondering if I had said that I always wanted to go to Siem Reap and also to Los Angeles, if you would have pointed out that Siem Reap is not in Los Angeles.

There is another PH in Saigon, you see. And yes, I already know that Saigon is not officially called Saigon any more.

This is wonderful news! I love the Hotel de la Paix!

Interesting, as the Hotel de la Paix just took over the former Alila Cha Am, south of Bangkok... presumably an expansion for them, but now their signature Siem Reap property is being rebranded.

Looking forward to seeing what Hyatt does with the property...!

I am very surprised they the Hotel de la Paix will become a Park Hyatt. The hotel itself is quite nice indeed but the location really sucks, in the centre of Siem Reap, surrounded by dusty, dirty, noisy streets.
My first choice in Siem Reap will remain the Grand Hotel a Raffles property, a truly elegant historical building with flawless service. My second choice would be the Aman Resort across the street.
My ten cents thought.

I am very surprised they the Hotel de la Paix will become a Park Hyatt. The hotel itself is quite nice indeed but the location really sucks, in the centre of Siem Reap, surrounded by dusty, dirty, noisy streets.
My first choice in Siem Reap will remain the Grand Hotel a Raffles property, a truly elegant historical building with flawless service. My second choice would be the Aman Resort across the street.
My ten cents thought.

Interesting. I love the Hotel de la Paix because of its location. It is totally serene inside but you can get into the chaos by just stepping outside. Prefer it over the Aman (never stayed at Raffles).
Just a bit shocked to see this hotel to become a Hyatt. The essence of the hotel was always about the community and the local focus so the opposite of an international chain. Then again Hyatt has been quite good in displaying individual, local style under the Park brand.

Dear FlyerTalkers,

The Hotel De La Paix Siem Reap will be rebranded as the Park Hyatt Siem Reap following a complete renovation. The hotel is expected to open in 2013 and will offer 107 guest rooms and suites, two restaurants, one bar, a bakery, spa, fitness center, and two swimming pools. The hotel is situated nearby the renowned 12th century runis of Angkor and close to more than 1000 temples including Angkor Wat, the world’s largest religious monument.

Happy Travels!

Congratulation and We are looking forward to it.

*waits for the guy to complain about lack of European foot print again*

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This is actually a very nice addition in my opinion. Does not change the need fit more European properties though.

Pleased to see this and would appreciate an update on when in 2013 it's likely to open.

Thanks

Does not change the need fit more European properties though.

I don't disagree with you.

I was just wondering why you didn't post your usual rant earlier. You are usually one of the first posters when a new property is announced, and your rant is always the same.:)

I am just so glad there s a new park hyatt . But estactic that the de la paix is being re done .... Hope they don't use the designs of bensley which is kitsch beyond belief !!

Any guesses for when in the 1st QTR this will open? I have family members going to SR in the middle of Feb.

I am wondering if I had said that I always wanted to go to Siem Reap and also to Los Angeles, if you would have pointed out that Siem Reap is not in Los Angeles.

There is another PH in Saigon, you see. And yes, I already know that Saigon is not officially called Saigon any more.


LOL Richard.

Technically, Saigon and most of southern Vietnam used to be part of The Khmer Kingdom. Saigon is called Prey Nokor by the Cambodian. :-)

I emailed someone from Hyatt and they said that they would be open April 2013.

Any update? I'm going to be in REP in early June and would love to give the PH a try. Thanks!

Will make a good 2 centre trip with the new Hyatt coming to Laos.
We are hoping to visit in November - hope to see a report before then though, especially on the suites.

I was just looking for more info re. this property. From what I found, it seems to be opening June 1, 2013.

Can't confirm the accuracy of this website:
https://www.whatahotel.com/hotels/2062/Park_Hyatt_Siem_Reap.html

Hmmm... if this is supposed to open June 1, wouldn't they be accepting reservations now? 3 months does not seem unreasonable for advance bookings. Maybe PH is trying to avoid a similar fiasco as when PH Sydney was being renovated?

Hmmm... if this is supposed to open June 1, wouldn't they be accepting reservations now? 3 months does not seem unreasonable for advance bookings. Maybe PH is trying to avoid a similar fiasco as when PH Sydney was being renovated?

The PH webpage still seems to be reporting "early 2013" so June would be a reasonable date. Anyone know how thorough the updates were to the hotel? It was quite nice before actually.

The PH webpage still seems to be reporting "early 2013" so June would be a reasonable date. Anyone know how thorough the updates were to the hotel? It was quite nice before actually.

I emailed the hotel and they got back to me confirming the June 1st date...

FDW

I emailed the hotel and they got back to me confirming the June 1st date...

FDW

Great- Thanks! Another option (returns) in Cambodia!

I emailed the hotel and they got back to me confirming the June 1st date...

FDW

Great news. Hopefully going to book a stay there for August... Provided the opening rates aren't ridiculous. I'm surprised they haven't opened up the hotel for bookings though since the opening is less than 2 months away :confused:

Better question is when will they open the hotel up to bookings.

It's May 1 now and the site is still not live. Seems strange since it is supposed to open on June 1st. Maybe the opening date will be pushed back.

Sent an email to the property and got a reply saying it will open in mid July and was offered a special opening rate of $365++. I think this price is a bit of a joke considering I am staying like 2 weeks after opening and given the price of competing properties such as the residence d'angkor.

saying it will open in mid July and was offered a special opening rate of $365++. I think this price is a bit of a joke considering I am staying like 2 weeks after opening and given the price of competing properties such as the residence d'angkor.

Are you sure that wasn't the rate for your entire stay? :D

On a more serious note--I frequently see newly-opened branded hotels charging exorbitant amounts in resort or exotic locations.

Marriott is especially guilty of this--even with their boring CY brand.

Try booking CY Santa Barbara or Kauai--the rate is around $250+ for very bland accommodations in far-from-optimal locations.

Do they actually get those rates?

Certainly not from me.

The good news is these properties often require significantly less points per night than one would expect given the revenue rates...

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I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.

I was quoted $325++ per night. Bear in mind, the property will have Virtuoso benefits with the property specific benefit of a complimentary dinner. Prices seem a little high but are in line with Raffles, Sofitel etc.

I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.

:rolleyes:
I think it might be you who are mistaken.
http://www.amanresorts.com/amansara/home.aspx

I was quoted $325++ per night. Bear in mind, the property will have Virtuoso benefits with the property specific benefit of a complimentary dinner. Prices seem a little high but are in line with Raffles, Sofitel etc.

Raffles is $220 and sofitel is $120 for my dates so I wouldn't exactly say they are in line. I could understand charging rates like this in a years time, but trying to charge those rates at opening when there are bound to be teething problems is a bit much.


:rolleyes:
I think it might be you who are mistaken.
http://www.amanresorts.com/amansara/home.aspx

I think Aman resorts are an exception. Even if there was an Aman resort set up in a sewage pit, they could still manage to get customers paying $1000/night ;)

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I think if they expect to get $400 a night in Cambodia they are sorely mistaken regardless of how nice the hotel is.

I don't think they will have problems with the rate. There are a lot of customers who will pay this- my problem in Siem Reap has been to get a room at a good hotel regardless of price.

I think Aman resorts are an exception. Even if there was an Aman resort set up in a sewage pit, they could still manage to get customers paying $1000/night ;)

This is a hypothetical question, as Aman would never build in a subpar location. Amanresorts are able to command the rates they do because of their locations and the unparalleled overall experience they offer. In most Aman locations there is also very high demand for other high-end properties at lower price points from brands like Four Seasons, GHM, Park Hyatt, etc..

A nearby example would be Luang Prabang, where in addition to Amantaka there are R&C and Orient Express properties have rates similar to PH Siem Reap.

Hotel de la Paix is a great fit for the Park Hyatt brand.

This is a hypothetical question, as Aman would never build in a subpar location. Amanresorts are able to command the rates they do because of their locations and the unparalleled overall experience they offer. In most Aman locations there is also very high demand for other high-end properties at lower price points from brands like Four Seasons, GHM, Park Hyatt, etc..

A nearby example would be Luang Prabang, where in addition to Amantaka there are R&C and Orient Express properties have rates similar to PH Siem Reap.

Hotel de la Paix is a great fit for the Park Hyatt brand.

Agreed, however I think the opening rates they are offering are the rates we can expect constantly so there is nothing "special" about them. Guests are always taking a risk staying in the first weeks after opening.. They are effectively the Guinea-pigs for refining service and F&B offerings so usually there are pretty decent opening rates.

Agreed, however I think the opening rates they are offering are the rates we can expect constantly so there is nothing "special" about them. Guests are always taking a risk staying in the first weeks after opening.. They are effectively the Guinea-pigs for refining service and F&B offerings so usually there are pretty decent opening rates.

Of course actual daily rate will fluctuate depending on occupancy.

I agree staying at a new property is risky. Opening rates can be low or very high. I often find that there is room for substantial negotiation when properties open with exorbitant rates.

Of course actual daily rate will fluctuate depending on occupancy.

I agree staying at a new property is risky. Opening rates can be low or very high. I often find that there is room for substantial negotiation when properties open with exorbitant rates.

I stayed there a few years ago in its former incarnation and this was before Siem Reap became as popular as it is now and the entry level rooms were $330 and suites were around $600 USD and the hotel was sold out- I couldn't even stay the days I wanted to in a row (had to move from one room type to another)- booking 30 days out.

By the way- if all the luxury hotels are sold out in Siem Reap or you don't want to spend that much money- the Hotel Victoria is a very nice 3.5* alternative with a great breakfast- not luxury but then again the price is usually less than $200 all in.

Raffles is $220 and sofitel is $120 for my dates so I wouldn't exactly say they are in line.

Guess it depends on your dates. For me, PH is $325, Raffles is $385 and the Sofitel is cheaper.

Well I guess I stand partly corrected. Still seems high to me. I mean, I remember seeing the PH Saigon for $130 a night before.

Well I guess I stand partly corrected. Still seems high to me. I mean, I remember seeing the PH Saigon for $130 a night before.

Saigon is not even in the same country as Siem Reap.

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sigh...i know. never mind.

I replied to the original email sent by PH SR as I noticed they addressed the email to the wrong person (i.e. not me). They sent the email whch was originally meant to be sent to me and offered a rate of $255++ which I have accepted. I think this is a relatively fair offer since I will be staying there about a week after they plan to open.

I replied to the original email sent by PH SR as I noticed they addressed the email to the wrong person (i.e. not me). They sent the email whch was originally meant to be sent to me and offered a rate of $255++ which I have accepted. I think this is a relatively fair offer since I will be staying there about a week after they plan to open.

That sounds very fair. Please post a trip report as this hotel is high on the interest list!

Be nice to know what the Category would be... I called the reservation line and the agent said he presumed it would be a Category 6... that would place it amongst the likes of Park Hyatt Tokyo and Sydney.

I know it was formerly Hotel De La Paix, but that's a bit of a stretch I think.

Be nice to know what the Category would be... I called the reservation line and the agent said he presumed it would be a Category 6... that would place it amongst the likes of Park Hyatt Tokyo and Sydney.

I know it was formerly Hotel De La Paix, but that's a bit of a stretch I think.

What is a stretch? Of course as a Park Hyatt that will be in high demand it will most likely be a category 6, or at a minimum category 5.

What is a stretch? Of course as a Park Hyatt that will be in high demand it will most likely be a category 6, or at a minimum category 5.

I would guess with the rates presented here, it will be category 5 - 4 is possible - 6 would be a stretch. Not all Parks are 6.

What is a stretch? Of course as a Park Hyatt that will be in high demand it will most likely be a category 6, or at a minimum category 5.

It is a stretch because Cat 6 properties, as I mentioned before, are in locations where cost of living and operating cost in general are high and are located in major metropolitan areas; Tokyo, Hong Kong, Paris, Zurich, Moscow, even Milan.

Whereas Cambodia is not a location where you expect a Cat 6 to be. It is more comparable to Cat 4 like Park Hyatt Saigon, Hyderabad, Chennai; even Seoul is a Cat 4. Looking at Cat 5, you're in the company of Beijing, Shanghai, Istanbul, and Dubai.

So, yes, if PH Siem Reap were to be a Cat 6, given all the relative Park Hyatt properties, I would consider it too high; regardless if it is in demand or not. Demand itself has no bearing on the Category.

And to add, I visited Hotel De La Paix when I was in Siem Reap to look around; it was a wonderful place. But unless Hyatt is going to do something beyond a remodel, i.e. tearing it down and rebuilding it to an epic property beyond comparison in the region, I don't see how it would qualify as Cat 6. I've stayed @ PH Paris and Tokyo, and I can see why those marquee properties have gotten the Cat 6.

Website is now showing a bit more information. There is a picture of one of the rooms on the front page too. Booking system not live yet however.

Booking has now gone live on the website. Looks like standard daily rate is $280.

Booking has now gone live on the website. Looks like standard daily rate is $280.

Is this hotel FHR or Virtuoso affiliated?

Is this hotel FHR or Virtuoso affiliated?

Definitely Virtuoso affiliated. Looks like the only benefit over diamond benefits is that you get a complimentary set dinner for two and 20% off selected spa treatments. I have a $255 rate already organised with the hotel.. If it is ineligible for a 6000 point upgrade, then I will book the daily rate through virtuoso instead, otherwise it isn't worth about $80 for the meal.

Definitely Virtuoso affiliated. Looks like the only benefit over diamond benefits is that you get a complimentary set dinner for two and 20% off selected spa treatments. I have a $255 rate already organised with the hotel.. If it is ineligible for a 6000 point upgrade, then I will book the daily rate through virtuoso instead, otherwise it isn't worth about $80 for the meal.

Thanks.