Found an amazing fare from Newark to Berlin Summer 2012 for $596 US:
Mon 18-Jun-12
Newark (EWR)
Depart 5:55 pm
Terminal B to Frankfurt (FRA)
Arrive 7:20 am +1 day
Terminal 1 3,851 mi
(6,198 km)
Duration: 7hr 25mn
AC Flight: 9444
Operated by: LUFTHANSA OR LH CITYLINE
Frankfurt (FRA)
Depart 8:55 am
Terminal 1 to Berlin (BER)
Arrive 10:05 am 267 mi
(430 km)
Duration: 1hr 10mn
AC Flight: 9502
Operated by: LUFTHANSA OR LH CITYLINE
Total distance: 4,118 mi (6,627 km)
Total duration: 8hr 35mn (10hr 10mn with connections)
Traveling to Newark
Tue 3-Jul-12
Berlin (BER)
Depart 8:30 am to Frankfurt (FRA)
Arrive 9:45 am
Terminal 1 267 mi
(430 km)
Duration: 1hr 15mn
AC Flight: 9019
Operated by: LUFTHANSA OR LH CITYLINE
Frankfurt (FRA)
Depart 11:20 am
Terminal 1 to Newark (EWR)
Arrive 2:00 pm
Terminal C 3,851 mi
(6,198 km)
Duration: 8hr 40mn
AC Flight: 2539
Operated by: UNITED AIRLINES
Total distance: 4,118 mi (6,627 km)
Total duration: 9hr 55mn (11hr 30mn with connections)
yuel
Mar 27, 12, 2:18 pm
Welcome to FT!
And great first post and find
EmailKid
Mar 27, 12, 2:33 pm
Not seeing this on Ita matrix or aircanada.com. Where did you find this?
EmailKid
izzik
Mar 27, 12, 2:38 pm
I see it on P for 581, 6.19-6.25
jay526
Mar 27, 12, 2:39 pm
I'm seeing this on Matrix without the AC code. It looks like you can do the TATL on LH and UA metal as well for a little more. This was for June going into early July - checking for more.
Thanks OP!
yuel
Mar 27, 12, 2:40 pm
Not seeing this on Ita matrix or aircanada.com. Where did you find this?
EmailKid
Most booking sites, not on ita
AA_EXP09
Mar 27, 12, 2:45 pm
Found an amazing fare from Newark to Berlin Summer 2012 for $596 US:
Welcome to FT!
Why not use AC metal?
iahphx
Mar 27, 12, 2:53 pm
Yeah, it's a bit squirelly, but it's out there. It seems like there's also a high YQ -- can anything be done about that?
If not, it's just a very good leisure fare to get you across the pond this summer.
stockmanjr
Mar 27, 12, 2:55 pm
DUS also available
DaveTO
Mar 27, 12, 2:56 pm
Doesn't LH get you with their 50% earning on the deep discount fares?
PaceLaw2012
Mar 27, 12, 2:59 pm
Doesn't LH get you with their 50% earning on the deep discount fares?
its more like 0%
What fare buckets do these book into on LH?
hogo74
Mar 27, 12, 3:01 pm
Most booking sites, not on ita
It does show up on ITA with month-long EWR-BER or EWR-DUS searches restricted to AC.
hogo74
Mar 27, 12, 3:04 pm
its more like 0%
What fare buckets do these book into on LH?
Seems to be a K fare, so if crediting to UA, best to avoid LH metal (UA and AC metal options are available).
izzik
Mar 27, 12, 3:09 pm
funny how AC K fare gets 100% with LH M&M but LH/UA K fares get 50% w/M&M.
aindfan
Mar 27, 12, 3:09 pm
I'm seeing a fair amount of two stop availability, but that generally involves LH metal YYZ-FRA...
HansGolden
Mar 27, 12, 5:01 pm
Super-low shoulder season base fare plus coding AC is dropping ~$240 in YQ ex-EWR.
publicrelasian
Mar 27, 12, 5:08 pm
am I missing something? I see $400-$600 in BASE fare, once you add fuel surcharge and taxes it's $1000+
HansGolden
Mar 27, 12, 5:10 pm
am I missing something? I see $400-$600 in BASE fare, once you add fuel surcharge and taxes it's $1000+
Base is $147 (KKNC2N) and YQ is $252.
Spiff
Mar 27, 12, 5:17 pm
Super-low shoulder season base fare plus coding AC is dropping ~$240 in YQ ex-EWR.
Summer is shoulder season to Europe? ;)
HansGolden
Mar 27, 12, 5:23 pm
Summer is shoulder season to Europe? ;)
In this case, yes. Given the exact dates of the OP, the fare basis that it prices at has K as the second letter which indicates shoulder season for JV TATL (UA/AC/LH-group) fares specifically and *A fares in general (H is high season, L is low season). In this case, the shoulder season fare is good for 1 May to 31 Oct on outbound TATL sector, which is abnormal. (I'm guessing we're seeing a misfile.) Also unusual (though not unheard of, I've seen it a number of times; the example that jumps to mind are the UA LAX-NRT fares last Sep.) is that the K-class shoulder fare is lower than the K-class low season fare.
ETA: Here's a quick dump of the cheapest AC (which is same as all *A TATL JV fares) EWR-BER fares. Below that is the seasonality of each specific fare.
>FQDewrber/aac
FQDEWRBER/AAC
ALSO SEE NYCBER XF MAY APPLY
>m
ROE 1.00 NEAREST 1.00 USD
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01/KKNC2N 147 K NRF S31OCT - @ 3@SU@ - R
02/KLNC2N 161 K NRF S30APR @ 3@SU@ - R
03/TKXNC16S 317 T NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
04/TKWNC16S 387 T NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
05/SLX6NCE 392 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
06/SKXNC16T 417 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
07/KHXNC10S 420 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
08/SLW6NCE 462 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
09/WLX5NCE 472 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
10/SKWNC16T 487 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
11/KHWNC10S 490 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
12/SKX6NCE 492 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
13/WLW5NCE 542 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
14/SKW6NCE 572 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
> PAGE 2/ 6
>fqn1*se
FQN1*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01/KKNC2N 147 K NRF S31OCT - @ 3@SU@ - R
FCL: KKNC2N TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: K
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON KKNC2N TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 01MAY 12 THROUGH 31OCT 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn2*se
FQN2*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
02/KLNC2N 161 K NRF S30APR @ 3@SU@ - R
FCL: KLNC2N TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: K
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON KLNC2N TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 20JAN 12 THROUGH 30APR 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn3*se
FQN3*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
03/TKXNC16S 317 T NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: TKXNC16S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: T
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON TKXNC16S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn4*se
FQN4*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
04/TKWNC16S 387 T NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: TKWNC16S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: T
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON TKWNC16S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>
>fqn5*se
FQN5*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
05/SLX6NCE 392 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SLX6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn6*se
FQN6*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
06/SKXNC16T 417 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: SKXNC16T TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON SKXNC16T TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn7*se
FQN7*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
07/KHXNC10S 420 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
FCL: KHXNC10S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: K
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO GERMANY FOR HIGH SEASON KHXNC10S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 18MAY 12 THROUGH 31MAY 12 OR 12AUG 12 THROUGH
25AUG 12.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn8*se
FQN8*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
08/SLW6NCE 462 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SLW6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn9*se
FQN9*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
09/WLX5NCE 472 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WLX5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn10*se
FQN10*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
10/SKWNC16T 487 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: SKWNC16T TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON SKWNC16T TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>
>fqn11*se
FQN11*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
11/KHWNC10S 490 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
FCL: KHWNC10S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: K
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO GERMANY FOR HIGH SEASON KHWNC10S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 18MAY 12 THROUGH 31MAY 12 OR 12AUG 12 THROUGH
25AUG 12.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn12*se
FQN12*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
12/SKX6NCE 492 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SKX6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn13*se
FQN13*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
13/WLW5NCE 542 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WLW5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn14*se
FQN14*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC EWRBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
14/SKW6NCE 572 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SKW6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>
Extremely interesting is the seasonality on the SK***** (S-class, shoulder season) fares, which is a much more traditional shoulder season date range:
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
I've also never seen seasonality coded 2 years ahead. I'm guessing they've been playing with automating generation of seasonality of fare rules and screwed up.
ETA #2: Wow. Even high season has screwy seasonality - KHXNC10S: "PERMITTED 18MAY 12 THROUGH 31MAY 12 OR 12AUG 12 THROUGH 25AUG 12." Reinforces my guess that they're experimenting with automated seasonality generation (and that there's DEFINITELY a mistake at play here).
ETA #3: On further reflection, there's a good chance that the base fare is not a mistake, but rather a response to AB's fares and entry into OW. It is not unprecedented to have fares without any meaningful seasonality restrictions if the promo fare is aggressive. (Also possible is new BER airport is complicating the TXL move.) Below are *A JV TATL fares ATL-BER for a comparison with more traditional seasonality:
>FQDatlber/aac
FQDATLBER/AAC
> PAGE 1/ 5
>m
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01 SKXNC16S 302 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
02 SKWNC16S 372 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
03 LKXNC16T 402 L NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
04 LKWNC16T 472 L NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
05 SKX6NCE 637 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
06 SLX6NCE 653 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
07 SLW6NCE 713 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
08 SKW6NCE 717 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
09 WKX5NCE 717 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
10 WLX5NCE 733 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
11 WLW5NCE 793 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
12 WKW5NCE 797 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
13 KHXNC10S 802 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
14 VKX4NCE 817 V NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
15 VLX4NCE 833 V NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
> PAGE 2/ 5
>fqn1*se
FQN1*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01 SKXNC16S 302 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: SKXNC16S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON SKXNC16S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn2*se
FQN2*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
02 SKWNC16S 372 S NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: SKWNC16S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON SKWNC16S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn3*se
FQN3*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
03 LKXNC16T 402 L NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: LKXNC16T TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: L
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON LKXNC16T TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn4*se
FQN4*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
04 LKWNC16T 472 L NRF S17MAY B12APR@ 7@SU@ 1M R
F15JUN -
FCL: LKWNC16T TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: L
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FOR SHOULDER SEASON LKWNC16T TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 02APR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn5*se
FQN5*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
05 SKX6NCE 637 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SKX6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn6*se
FQN6*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
06 SLX6NCE 653 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SLX6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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>fqn7*se
FQN7*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
07 SLW6NCE 713 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SLW6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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>fqn8*se
FQN8*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
08 SKW6NCE 717 S NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: SKW6NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: S
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn9*se
FQN9*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
09 WKX5NCE 717 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WKX5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn10*se
FQN10*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
10 WLX5NCE 733 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WLX5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn11*se
FQN11*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
11 WLW5NCE 793 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WLW5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR LOW/OFF-PEAK SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 07MAR 12 THROUGH 28MAR 12 OR 28OCT 12 THROUGH
12DEC 12 OR 24DEC 12 THROUGH 21MAR 13 OR 27OCT 13 THROUGH
12DEC 13 OR 24DEC 13 THROUGH 27MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn12*se
FQN12*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
12 WKW5NCE 797 W NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: WKW5NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PAGE 1/ 1
>fqn13*se
FQN13*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
13 KHXNC10S 802 K NRF S31MAY B12APR@14@SU@ 1M R
FCL: KHXNC10S TRF: 1 RULE: E700 BK: K
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPN-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO GERMANY FOR HIGH SEASON KHXNC10S TYPE FARES
PERMITTED 18MAY 12 THROUGH 31MAY 12 OR 12AUG 12 THROUGH
25AUG 12.
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>fqn14*se
FQN14*SE
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27MAR12**02MAR13/AC ATLBER/NLX;AT/TPM 4725/MPM 5670
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
14 VKX4NCE 817 V NRF S - @ 7@SU@ 3M R
FCL: VKX4NCE TRF: 1 RULE: E600 BK: V
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
SE.SEASONS
FROM/TO EUROPE FOR SHOULDER SEASON FARES
PERMITTED 29MAR 12 THROUGH 17MAY 12 OR 26AUG 12 THROUGH
27OCT 12 OR 13DEC 12 THROUGH 23DEC 12 OR 22MAR 13 THROUGH
16MAY 13 OR 25AUG 13 THROUGH 26OCT 13 OR 13DEC 13 THROUGH
23DEC 13 OR 28MAR 14 THROUGH 31MAR 14 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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ETA #4: Third time's the charm. It's a response to AB. Here are the AB fares:
>FQDnycber/aab
FQDNYCBER/AAB
> PAGE 1/13
>m
27MAR12**02MAR13/AB NYCBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01 EFLYRT2 147 E @ B01APR E01MAY@ @ - - R
O31OCT -
02 WFLYRT2 153 W @ B01APR E01NOV@ @ - - R
03 EFLYRT2 161 E @ B01APR O30APR@ @ - - R
04 EFLYRT2 205 E @ B01APR E01NOV@ @ - - R
05 EFLYRT2 207 E @ B01APR O30APR@ @ - - R
06 PFLYRT2 226 P @ B01APR E01MAY@ @ - - R
O31OCT -
07 WFLYOW2 117 W @ B01APR E01NOV@ @ - - R
08 PFLYRT2 239 P @ B01APR O30APR@ @ - - R
09 EFLYOW2 121 E @ B01APR E01MAY@ @ - - R
O31OCT -
10 EFLYOW2 129 E @ B01APR O30APR@ @ - - R
11 PFLYRT2 266 P @ B01APR O30APR@ @ - - R
12 PFLYRT2 280 P @ B01APR E01NOV@ @ - - R
13 EFLYOW2 143 E @ B01APR E01NOV@ @ - - R
14 OSPCL2 299 O @ B31MAR E01MAY@ @ - - R
O16JUN -
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>fqn1*tr
FQN1*TR
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
5XA/7XY EXCLUDED
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
27MAR12**02MAR13/AB NYCBER/NLX;AT/TPM 3969/MPM 4762
LN FARE BASIS OW USD RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01 EFLYRT2 147 E @ B01APR E01MAY@ @ - - R
O31OCT -
FCL: EFLYRT2 TRF: 1 RULE: 5001 BK: E
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPX-INSTANT PURCHASE EXCURSION
TR.TVL RESTRICTION
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER 01MAY 12
AND ON/BEFORE 31OCT 12.
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SkyBuck
Mar 27, 12, 5:52 pm
ETA #4: Third time's the charm. It's a response to AB.
DL seems to be matching, too.
hogo74
Mar 27, 12, 6:35 pm
ETA #4: Third time's the charm. It's a response to AB.
While not as low as from NYC, fares are quite low from other AB gateways, too. Base fare for MIA-DUS is $250.-, the availability on *A is more spotty than for NYC-DUS/BER, but $720 a.i. is possible e.g. 7/26 - 8/6 via YYZ with an overnight layover on the return
Wandrlst88
Mar 27, 12, 8:06 pm
DL seems to be matching, too.
Skybuck, how are you finding the DL match? Tried searching on ITA but not sure if I am searching correctly with dates/duration.
yuel
Mar 27, 12, 8:15 pm
Skybuck, how are you finding the DL match? Tried searching on ITA but not sure if I am searching correctly with dates/duration.
Try delta.com, its has come good layovers in AMS for 20-30 hrs
dieuwer2
Mar 27, 12, 8:18 pm
Just got an email from AA advertising $289 ow ai fares to Europe, with "embargo dates" from late May to late August.
tcook052
Mar 27, 12, 8:21 pm
I've also never seen seasonality coded 2 years ahead. I'm guessing they've been playing with automating generation of seasonality of fare rules and screwed up.
That's my guess also as published fares are only loaded in CRS as far out as 330-350 days.
why fly
Mar 27, 12, 8:29 pm
Newark (EWR) to Dusseldorf (DUS) - Wed, Jun 6
United Newark (EWR) to Hamburg (HAM) - Wed, Jun 6
United 74 Dep: 5:40PM Arr: 7:30AM 7h 50m Boeing 757 Economy (K)
Layover in HAM Thu, Jun 7 2h 50m
United Hamburg (HAM) to Dusseldorf (DUS) - Thu, Jun 7
United 9397 Dep: 10:20AM Arr: 11:15AM 0h 55m Airbus A320 Economy (K)
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA
Dusseldorf (DUS) to Newark (EWR) - Tue, Jun 12
United Dusseldorf (DUS) to Geneva (GVA) - Tue, Jun 12
United 9486 Dep: 6:50AM Arr: 8:10AM 1h 20m Canadair RJ 900 Economy (K)
OPERATED BY EUROWINGS AG Layover in GVA 1h 10m
United Geneva (GVA) to Newark (EWR) - Tue, Jun 12
United 957 Dep: 9:20AM Arr: 12:10PM 8h 50m Boeing 767 Economy (K)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $666.00
Total cost for 1 passenger $666.00
hogo74
Mar 27, 12, 8:32 pm
Just got an email from AA advertising $289 ow ai fares to Europe, with "embargo dates" from late May to late August.
I got that email, too. But when you look at the T&C after following the link, you'll see "Sale prices are not valid for travel May 22, 2012, through August 23, 2012. "
So I think HansGolden's find that this is a targeted response to the low AB promo fares to DUS and BER is still the most likely explanation. *A and DL have matched, AA hasn't.
BiziBB
Mar 27, 12, 8:51 pm
Five posts have just been deleted since they are off-topic (Tricks commentary belongs in the Trick It louhge thread, not in MR Deals threads).
Comments about particular FTers is also off-topic for MR Deals threads, so please don't post commentary about individuals on MR Deals threads.
Cheers, BiziBB, Moderator Mileage Run
sbbutler93
Mar 28, 12, 12:34 am
Also looks like it's available going into Sept for a weekend run.
Newark (EWR) to Dusseldorf (DUS) - Fri, Sep 21
Newark (EWR) to Hamburg (HAM) - Fri, Sep 21
United 74 Dep: 5:40PM Arr: 7:30AM 7h 50m Boeing 757 Economy (K)
Layover in HAM Sat, Sep 22 2h 50m
Dusseldorf (DUS) to Newark (EWR) - Sun, Sep 23
Dusseldorf (DUS) to Milan (MXP) - Sun, Sep 23
Lufthansa 3176 Dep: 7:15AM Arr: 8:40AM 1h 25m Canadair RJ 900 Economy (L)
OPERATED BY EUROWINGS AG Layover in MXP 1h 40m
Milan (MXP) to Newark (EWR) - Sun, Sep 23
United 45 Dep: 10:20AM Arr: 1:35PM 9h 15m Boeing 767 Economy (K)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $663.30
Total cost for 1 passenger $663.30
unavaca
Mar 28, 12, 2:03 am
Bah, looks like everything requires some amount of long haul on LH, which kills it for UA fliers :(
hogo74
Mar 28, 12, 5:45 am
Bah, looks like everything requires some amount of long haul on LH, which kills it for UA fliers :(
True, there is a lot of TATL LH metal in the mix, but it's certainly possible to avoid it. For example, if you do a flexible date search on ual.com for EWR-DUS, it'll show a number of ~$660.- options for July and August (e.g. August 1 - 3). Most of these connect through STR, GVA or MXP (like in the itinerary posted just above your post).
On ITA, you can do searches with STR, GVA, MXP or CDG specified as connection point. GVA and MXP get wide-body service from EWR, STR and CDG have the 757.
Non-LH options to BER are a bit more sparse and often seem to go through BRU using SN TATL, at least on ITA, so no E+ seating and no elite bonus as far as I recall.
And thank you to the OP, what a first post! I've booked a ticket for a summer vacation I was planning and for which I had expected to pay $1,000+, so while not a MR, it's a really great summer fare.
AA_EXP09
Mar 28, 12, 9:48 am
K fare.
161 base.
Sun min stay.
gallen5555
Mar 28, 12, 10:20 am
any body see any love for flites from SFO? using ua metal tatl preferably but luftansa would work. a quick search in ita shows approx. $1,800 from SFO trying to hook up at EWR. or about 1,300 doing a separate intin from sfo to ewr.then off to Ber.
LGA
Mar 28, 12, 1:25 pm
any body see any love for flites from SFO? using ua metal tatl preferably but luftansa would work. a quick search in ita shows approx. $1,800 from SFO trying to hook up at EWR. or about 1,300 doing a separate intin from sfo to ewr.then off to Ber.
LH would work given what's already been pointed out about K fares on LH for UA accrual purposes...?
longhorn11
Mar 28, 12, 1:26 pm
AC is back up to over 1k RT for those dates. UAL and Delta are still in the 600s ai, UAL through August.
flycal312
Mar 28, 12, 6:19 pm
Anyone still getting this in July or August? Source?
Thank you!
gallen5555
Mar 28, 12, 6:23 pm
LH would work given what's already been pointed out about K fares on LH for UA accrual purposes...?
yeah it would if i just wanted a vacation run for a good price and not fret the miles but i did point out u/a was my first choice
ssoonngg123
Mar 28, 12, 7:21 pm
after seeing the post, remember my old days in Berlin!
At that time, still SXF-TXL.
saltytheseagull
Mar 28, 12, 7:55 pm
I'm an AA guy and was looking at booking my sister something on UA, but she's not sure date wise. When does fare lock appear? Is it on the payment information page or did I miss it somewhere else?
hogo74
Mar 28, 12, 8:29 pm
I'm an AA guy and was looking at booking my sister something on UA, but she's not sure date wise. When does fare lock appear? Is it on the payment information page or did I miss it somewhere else?
It's only available if the entire itinerary is on UA metal, codeshares are not allowed. This would rule out the EWR-DUS route since the only direct flight is operated by LH, and I think there were only very, very few days with K availability on the EWR-BER direct UA flight. If it's available on your flights, it shows right next to the flight details on the flight selection page. If farelock is not available, your only option to hold the fare for 24 hours is to purchase now and then cancel with no penalty within 24 hours if you change your mind.
saltytheseagull
Mar 28, 12, 8:44 pm
It's only available if the entire itinerary is on UA metal, codeshares are not allowed. This would rule out the EWR-DUS route since the only direct flight is operated by LH, and I think there were only very, very few days with K availability on the EWR-BER direct UA flight. If it's available on your flights, it shows right next to the flight details on the flight selection page. If farelock is not available, your only option to hold the fare for 24 hours is to purchase now and then cancel with no penalty within 24 hours if you change your mind.
Exactly what I needed to know. She was ready to kill me. Thank you very much!
NJviking
Mar 28, 12, 10:04 pm
True, there is a lot of TATL LH metal in the mix, but it's certainly possible to avoid it. For example, if you do a flexible date search on ual.com for EWR-DUS, it'll show a number of ~$660.- options for July and August (e.g. August 1 - 3). Most of these connect through STR, GVA or MXP (like in the itinerary posted just above your post).
On ITA, you can do searches with STR, GVA, MXP or CDG specified as connection point. GVA and MXP get wide-body service from EWR, STR and CDG have the 757.
Non-LH options to BER are a bit more sparse and often seem to go through BRU using SN TATL, at least on ITA, so no E+ seating and no elite bonus as far as I recall.
And thank you to the OP, what a first post! I've booked a ticket for a summer vacation I was planning and for which I had expected to pay $1,000+, so while not a MR, it's a really great summer fare.
Wow, this just ruined my evening plans ;)
You can fly OJ EWR-MXP-DUS 6/24 and BER-EWR nonstop back 7/4 for $639
Both TATL's on UA metal^
n8onUA
Mar 29, 12, 12:57 pm
Wow, this just ruined my evening plans ;)
You can fly OJ EWR-MXP-DUS 6/24 and BER-EWR nonstop back 7/4 for $639
Both TATL's on UA metal^
What's OJ?
Nevermind...got it. Open Jaw.
NJviking
Mar 29, 12, 1:00 pm
What's OJ?
OJ is Open Jaw
You don't go back from same airport as the one you arrived to
vip66
Mar 29, 12, 5:06 pm
I got four tickets EWR-AMS-BER for mid July through end of August on Delta for $640 AI. Booked in T.
Good price for mid summer, but I wonder why this fare is still available. Clearly, not a mistake.
In the end I think I'll cancel mine because I really need to be further south this coming summer and long-term car rental in Germany is not that cheap.
stockmanjr
Mar 30, 12, 11:09 am
I got four tickets EWR-AMS-BER for mid July through end of August on Delta for $640 AI. Booked in T.
Good price for mid summer, but I wonder why this fare is still available. Clearly, not a mistake.
In the end I think I'll cancel mine because I really need to be further south this coming summer and long-term car rental in Germany is not that cheap.
Gotta think it's a strike at AB.
Cheers
Howie
LGA
Mar 31, 12, 6:23 am
I got four tickets EWR-AMS-BER for mid July through end of August on Delta for $640 AI. Booked in T.
Good price for mid summer, but I wonder why this fare is still available. Clearly, not a mistake.
In the end I think I'll cancel mine because I really need to be further south this coming summer and long-term car rental in Germany is not that cheap.
I'm probably a little late with this idea, but what about a distance-based award (BA?) to bring you south? It does add the probably-unwanted variable of a separate record locator (and less protection in case of irrops), but just a thought... :)
beto76
Apr 2, 12, 8:58 am
Nice find for summer trip...
I was playing with it and got 695$ for my trip to DUS from my island...^
Not to mention that just simple round trip from here to NYC cost 400+:td:
KirbyLou
Apr 2, 12, 8:28 pm
Any suggestions for booking with a longer layover in one of the stopovers? The longest layover I can book is 12 hours... would love to get 1-2 days in Geneva or Paris.
bwiadca
Apr 3, 12, 5:10 pm
I got four tickets EWR-AMS-BER for mid July through end of August on Delta for $640 AI. Booked in T.
Good price for mid summer, but I wonder why this fare is still available. Clearly, not a mistake.
In the end I think I'll cancel mine because I really need to be further south this coming summer and long-term car rental in Germany is not that cheap.
If anybody is going to watch Euro 2012 its a good deal flying to BER. Located only 60 km West of Poznan where they will have games.
rankourabu
Apr 3, 12, 5:13 pm
If anybody is going to watch Euro 2012 its a good deal flying to BER. Located only 60 km West of Poznan where they will have games.
Its about 300km ;)
Travelomania
Apr 4, 12, 6:27 am
If anybody is going to watch Euro 2012 its a good deal flying to BER. Located only 60 km West of Poznan where they will have games.
Excuses if OT - just drove that leg from TXL to Poznan - the almost 300 km took more than 4+ hours with deplorable, dangerous road conditions and heavy truck traffic.
getmarshall
Apr 4, 12, 8:21 am
Was playing around with some dates in July from NYC to both Berlin and DUS and can't get the pricing to work seeing now well over $1100ai. Anyone still chasing this or having luck?
bwiadca
Apr 4, 12, 9:14 am
Excuses if OT - just drove that leg from TXL to Poznan - the almost 300 km took more than 4+ hours with deplorable, dangerous road conditions and heavy truck traffic.
I don't know what I was thinking last night. Distance to the Polish border is 60km, not to Poznan :) Sorry about the confusion.
Its still about $300 cheaper to fly into BER and to take a bus then to fly directly to POZ.
Wandrlst88
Apr 4, 12, 9:48 am
Was playing around with some dates in July from NYC to both Berlin and DUS and can't get the pricing to work seeing now well over $1100ai. Anyone still chasing this or having luck?
I got this to work yesterday to DUS but not to BER on DL.
tcook052
Apr 4, 12, 9:59 am
Fare is still valid but availability might be dwingling in that sale category.
mileq
Apr 4, 12, 11:05 am
Excuses if OT - just drove that leg from TXL to Poznan - the almost 300 km took more than 4+ hours with deplorable, dangerous road conditions and heavy truck traffic.
You have old info: now it is about 2 hours, all on the highway with speed limit of 90mph in Poland and no limits in Germany :cool: