India-based Airlines - How many miles will you lose as Kingfisher goes bust?

Let me start.

Approx 93500 still left in my account. With over 90000 of that from transfers thru the Amex KF First credit card.

Tried desperately over the last few months to book some US domestic DL awards using IT miles. But got nowhere with either website form or the call centre. :(

Sigh!

53000 miles

i got rid of most of my miles by booking a number of flights but i had to cancel them all today so i'm back up to about 600k....:(

53000 Miles... am kicking myself as I transfered 30000 just few months back!
:rolleyes:

44k approx. 98 pc of these via the Amex cc

Have a look at this

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/locked-in-miles-nowhere-to-fly/467521/

As per my chat with someone from Amex, I was assured Amex won't let it's members down. So they may convert those miles into MR again if earned via kingfisher amex, but I am just speculating yet basis the conversation

600k ... :eek:

i got rid of most of my miles by booking a number of flights but i had to cancel them all today so i'm back up to about 600k....:(

Keyser- our favourite biggest loser. :D ;)

25000.

just cashed in 30k miles for trips to BLR. only earned em on my KF-Amex since last august. But stopped using the card as of this month.

holy crap some of you guys..:eek:

Somewhere in the ballpark of 3k-4k

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Zero.

I've never flown the airline. And looks like I never will.

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Zero.

I've never flown the airline. And looks like I never will.

$3300 USD HKG LHR ai in F is appealing....
(Got the quote thru call center as GDS shows nothing)
And I have the same answer.

~25K before 3 months.. down to less than 1K as of today. I lucked out with multiple domestic redemptions in this period !!

By the way, I'm not a big fan of collecting junk from airline sky shops, but I've never every seen the 'Air Boutique' link on the King Club website work. Was there ever a way to purchase anything from there using King Miles?

9000 miles..

About 14k.. Dad is set to loose about 250k mostly through the KF First card. Hopefully AMEX will save the points.. :/

A few thousand at most, as I never chose to credit any activity to the account yet still ended up with a couple thousand miles.

All of my IT flights were credited to the programs of airlines with far longer operating histories than IT.

600k ... :eek:

Keyser- our favourite biggest loser. :D ;)

this is one contest i would have preferred to lose....& lose quite badly....

if amex converts these back then i'll get back about 50% points....which will be great....

this is one contest i would have preferred to lose....& lose quite badly....

if amex converts these back then i'll get back about 50% points....which will be great....

Do not feel obliged to tell us but out of curiosity what is your mileage breakdown?

You seem to have 600K useless Kingclub miles and from your postings, just as many useless JP miles. Your not doing too well are you? :p

Do you use any other FF program?

Do not feel obliged to tell us but out of curiosity what is your mileage breakdown?

about 70% of my jp miles & 50% of my king miles have come through credit card spend....

You seem to have 600K useless Kingclub miles and from your postings, just as many useless JP miles. Your not doing too well are you? :p

3.2 million jp miles & i'm using them up quite well....started using them on partner airlines & it works like a charm....

Do you use any other FF program?

ai & united....close to 100k in both....

3.2 million jp miles & i'm using them up quite well....started using them on partner airlines & it works like a charm....
Yep. That's one big positive about JP: the number of partners.

Often easier to get and cheaper to fly on a better quality partner than on Jet.

Their logic is seriously flawed!

Their logic is seriously flawed!

so true....don't even get me started on this....:rolleyes:

23k down the drain; petty compared to Keyser's 600k though :p

136K
i guess we all knew the day was coming :(

155k :(

Trying to redeem 64k for a trip to Srinagar if they can hang on till the end of the month

$3300 USD HKG LHR ai in F is appealing....
(Got the quote thru call center as GDS shows nothing)
And I have the same answer.

What? They don't even have F

What? They don't even have F

Of course they do have First (why they have it is a different story!):

http://mytripexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Air-India-First-Class.jpg

155k :(

Trying to redeem 64k for a trip to Srinagar if they can hang on till the end of the month

What does 64k get you?
[I do a fair amount of DEL-SXR, but isn't this a tad bit early if the idea is to stick to Srinagar?]

I am feeling bad for you folks with large IT balances.

Of course they do have First (why they have it is a different story!):

http://mytripexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Air-India-First-Class.jpg
That is not Kingfisher!

That is not Kingfisher!

Of course that is not Kingfisher! That's AI... Doesn't the product look fantastic? ;)

I think people are getting confused between AI (Air India) and ai (all-included) ;).

Of course that is not Kingfisher! That's AI... Doesn't the product look fantastic? ;).
And that is relevant to this thread because...??

Jasepl - I think the confusion arose from the fact that AAEXP_09 used USD 3300 ai. I think he may have meant ai as all inclusive, and not Air India...

Jasepl - I think the confusion arose from the fact that AAEXP_09 used USD 3300 ai. I think he may have meant ai as all inclusive, and not Air India...

Oh yeah.

Clearly the caffeine hadn't kicked in when I read that !

What does 64k get you?
[I do a fair amount of DEL-SXR, but isn't this a tad bit early if the idea is to stick to Srinagar?]

I am feeling bad for you folks with large IT balances.

2 Del-SXR return in IT business = 64k miles

About 15k. Only good for BLR-HYD or MAA or something similar. They are repeatedly cancelling flights, so it is tough to book anything.

Only 6K thankfully. Wish there was a way to transfer it out to something useful but too late for that now..

150K - most of it through Amex spends.

I called Amex yesterday and checked on the viability of the Kingfisher Amex card and they told me that if I chose another card, the Kingfisher card would get automatically cancelled. I asked if there are any offers on and the answer was no.

Anybody converted their card to a different one and got any offers?

150K - most of it through Amex spends.

I called Amex yesterday and checked on the viability of the Kingfisher Amex card and they told me that if I chose another card, the Kingfisher card would get automatically cancelled. I asked if there are any offers on and the answer was no.

Anybody converted their card to a different one and got any offers?

welcome to ft ramvish....

did you ask them what would happen to all the points they automatically converted to king miles????

136K
i guess we all knew the day was coming :(

i just burnt 110 K miles on 6 Bom Del RT Y redemptions over the easter weekend - if IT survives the week we will go to Agra for a long weekend - if they dont survive i guess its khandala or mahabaleshwar :D

so now down to just 26 K miles

welcome to ft ramvish....

did you ask them what would happen to all the points they automatically converted to king miles????

amex may convert them back to MR points .. but right now speculating basis a chat with an amex guy a few weeks back

i got rid of most of my miles by booking a number of flights but i had to cancel them all today so i'm back up to about 600k....:(

just booked 5 domestic flights on kingfisher first for 110k points....hopefully the flights will not get cancelled & my point balance will be down to a more respectful 500k....:p

86k Miles.

Unfortunately.. I kept accumulating Miles on Emirates/BA to King program... with a thought of taking a nice tour around India. My dreams may be a bit overcasted right now.

And that is relevant to this thread because...??

Jasepl - I think the confusion arose from the fact that AAEXP_09 used USD 3300 ai. I think he may have meant ai as all inclusive, and not Air India...

Finally it happened, on AoI forum too. I had raised the point in Mileage Run deals forum that AI (for all inclusive) was confusing as it could also mean Air India.

just booked 5 domestic flights on kingfisher first for 110k points....hopefully the flights will not get cancelled & my point balance will be down to a more respectful 500k....:p

Showing tons of options these days; am inclined to burn out my tiny set of 22k miles on DEL-BOM RT Y. How reliable are they on this sector these days? Did you travel already?

Showing tons of options these days; am inclined to burn out my tiny set of 22k miles on DEL-BOM RT Y. How reliable are they on this sector these days? Did you travel already?

just flew bom-del yesterday....the flight was on time but the aircraft condition was terrible....torn & dirty seats, torn carpet, no drinks offered (except water) for the duration of the flight, meal option was veg or non-veg biryani (which surprisingly was good)....the flight was full though which i guess is a good sign for kingfisher....

he flight was full though which i guess is a good sign for kingfisher....

Sure is. Thanks for the info.

just flew bom-del yesterday....the flight was on time but the aircraft condition was terrible....torn & dirty seats, torn carpet, no drinks offered (except water) for the duration of the flight, meal option was veg or non-veg biryani (which surprisingly was good)....the flight was full though which i guess is a good sign for kingfisher....

As I mentioned in a different thread, I flew PNQ-DEL on Monday and the food offering on a flight leaving at 11.30 was a sorry looking roll with a mystery filling. When I asked what it was, all the FA could say was "It's a burger sir, a burger". Be thankful for your biryani! Drinks were limited to those thimble sized bottles of water.

The flight routing was odd too. We essentially flew west to Mumbai and then north following the usual BOM-DEL track.

Keyser, did you get a boarding pass with a white sticky dot on it? Beneath the dot there's the Oneworld logo!

I was 99k, but went on a redemption frenzy on MAA-BOM and MAA-BLR vv. After today, down to 7k. Unfortunately MAA-BOM is now "Kingfisher class" service and not Kingfisher red - so redemption at a higher rate for water thimbles and crappy sandwich rolls.

Keyser, did you get a boarding pass with a white sticky dot on it? Beneath the dot there's the Oneworld logo!

Good grief... I nearly choked when I read that hahahaha :D

As I mentioned in a different thread, I flew PNQ-DEL on Monday and the food offering on a flight leaving at 11.30 was a sorry looking roll with a mystery filling. When I asked what it was, all the FA could say was "It's a burger sir, a burger". Be thankful for your biryani! Drinks were limited to those thimble sized bottles of water.

i was in first so maybe that's why i got the biryani instead of the burger....

Keyser, did you get a boarding pass with a white sticky dot on it? Beneath the dot there's the Oneworld logo!

didn't notice but i still have the boarding pass back at the office so will check later....:p

just flew bom-del yesterday....the flight was on time but the aircraft condition was terrible....torn & dirty seats, torn carpet, no drinks offered (except water) for the duration of the flight, meal option was veg or non-veg biryani (which surprisingly was good)....the flight was full though which i guess is a good sign for kingfisher....

i flew bom-del-bom over the weekend - the bom-del flight condition was as you describe it - terrible

but interestingly the del-bom aircraft seemed relatively new - greyish interiors with no screens - and in good condition

both flights were full. The FAs were friendly

the food - coleslaw s/w for b/f and roll for dinner was passable (so i passed)

the biggest +ive since they seemed to have shut of the IFE - the king of good times no longer welcomes us on board with his creepy statement on how he personally selects the crew

but interestingly the del-bom aircraft seemed relatively new - greyish interiors with no screens - and in good condition

i'm flying del-bom in a couple of weeks on kingfisher so its good to know that there are still some decent aircrafts in service....just to be on the safe side i also have a booking on jet an hour later, in case the kingfisher flight gets cancelled....

Thankfully only around 20k myself (my condolences for your loss, Keyser), but one of my good friends based out of MAA had the Amex and had accumulated over 300k in preparation for redeeming on a honeymoon flight early next year. :(

Flew DEL-BOM on Tuesday in J, was redeeming a return ticket earned on Amex KFF. Had a terrible experience - flight was delayed by 2 hours (and of course, they kept pushing it back in blocks of 30 mins); aircraft was in terrible shape; 'food' served was pav-bhaji (or at least an attempt to prepare that).

Reached airport ahead of time and then realized they have also dismantled the lounge on 1st floor at T3; been operating with the CCD on ground floor.

20% occupancy in J; even Economy didn't look full. Worrying signs. Flying BOM-DEL tomorrow, let's see.

Reached airport ahead of time and then realized they have also dismantled the lounge on 1st floor at T3; been operating with the CCD on ground floor.



have they dismantled the 'real lounge' at t3 international as well? domestic they only had a sports bar IIRC

been operating with the CCD on ground floor.

ai uses the cafe coffee day as well....its was pretty bad the last time i was there....

20% occupancy in J; even Economy didn't look full. Worrying signs. Flying BOM-DEL tomorrow, let's see.

how many J seats were in your craft. the bom-del-bom i flew over the weekend had only 4 each way!!

how many J seats were in your craft. the bom-del-bom i flew over the weekend had only 4 each way!!
4 seats! You mean just one row of J!?

have they dismantled the 'real lounge' at t3 international as well? domestic they only had a sports bar IIRC

No idea about the international one but guess that would have to go too, now that most (all?) international routes have been closed down.

The domestic KF lounge on first floor (adjacent to the Jet lounge) used to have a half-decent buffet, beer etc. Now the restaurant/bar is only on paid basis. Don't know if that's the sports bar you are referring to.

ai uses the cafe coffee day as well....its was pretty bad the last time i was there....

Same thing again; stale croissants and sandwiches. Leave alone the food, the ground staff was pretty clueless too - had not clue whether the incoming flight had landed etc. (or maybe she was feigning ignorance to avoid arguments with passengers)

how many J seats were in your craft. the bom-del-bom i flew over the weekend had only 4 each way!!

20; 5 rows. 4 passengers.

have they dismantled the 'real lounge' at t3 international as well? domestic they only had a sports bar IIRC

No idea about the international one but guess that would have to go too, now that most (all?) international routes have been closed down.

The domestic KF lounge on first floor (adjacent to the Jet lounge) used to have a half-decent buffet, beer etc. Now the restaurant/bar is only on paid basis. Don't know if that's the sports bar you are referring to.

I used the EK lounge at DEL last week and so walked past the IT lounge. It was open. It's being used by the OW carriers. I wonder if it will quickly morph into a OW lounge?

It's being used by the OW carriers. I wonder if it will quickly morph into a OW lounge?

definitely a possibility....