oneworld - DGLOB34 ex JNB for uk resident, is this possible for $6000 USD

I have given up my whole Sat afternoon to try and search for info about this subject with limited success. Please direct me to a post with the answers if it does exist, or please help me with the answers.

My plan is to get married in Mauritius in 2013 then go on a Global Explorer Business Class RTW ticket for our honeymoon. I have lots of BA ff points to position us in JNB to start the RTW ticket. I have not checked the milage yet but the route would be similar to the following.

Johannesburg-Mauritius-Perth-Sydney-Tahiti-Easter Island-Lima-St Lucia-London-Side trip to EU-London-Johannesburg

Has anyone bought a similar ticket recently out of JNB ?

How much did it cost ?

Who was the ticket booked with ?

I read on a post that a Canadian agent can book a similar ticket starting anywhere on the planet that is charged at the rate of the fare in that counry, is this true ?

Does anyone have experience of this and can you provide details of the Canadian agent ?

I also read on a post that positioning yourself for cheaper RTW tickets may break the rules of the T&Cs of my BA ff membership, is this true and does anyone have experience of this ?

All help would me very much appreciated

I have given up my whole Sat afternoon to try and search for info about this subject with limited success. Please direct me to a post with the answers if it does exist, or please help me with the answers.

My plan is to get married in Mauritius in 2013 then go on a Global Explorer Business Class RTW ticket for our honeymoon. I have lots of BA ff points to position us in JNB to start the RTW ticket. I have not checked the milage yet but the route would be similar to the following.

Johannesburg-Mauritius-Perth-Sydney-Tahiti-Easter Island-Lima-St Lucia-London-Side trip to EU-London-Johannesburg

Has anyone bought a similar ticket recently out of JNB ?

How much did it cost ?

Who was the ticket booked with ?

I read on a post that a Canadian agent can book a similar ticket starting anywhere on the planet that is charged at the rate of the fare in that counry, is this true ?

Does anyone have experience of this and can you provide details of the Canadian agent ?

I also read on a post that positioning yourself for cheaper RTW tickets may break the rules of the T&Cs of my BA ff membership, is this true and does anyone have experience of this ?

All help would me very much appreciated
I'll take a rough stab at this.
You have lots of issues with your proposed routing. To comply with the rules I've calculated one possible routing at 44,873 miles, well over your 34,000 mile limit on a dglob34.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=cpt-jnb%2Cjnb-mru%2Cmru-lhr%2Clhr-syd%2Csyd-per%2Cper-syd%2Csyd-akl%2Cakl-ppt%2Cppt-ipc%2Cipc-lim%2Clim-mia%2Cmia-uvf%2Cuvf-lgw%2Clhr-nbo&MS=wls&PC=red&RC=navy&DU=mi

You can only have one international departure and arrival in your country of origin so if you go JNB-MRU, you must route thru LHR to SYD.
G. Only one International departure and one International arrival to/from the country of origin is permitted
If you route thru LHR to get back to Africa you must utilize this rule:
F. Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America when one is a transfer without stopover.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover, or on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.
3. For travel to/from or via Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda two permitted in Europe when one is a transfer without stopover between Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda and another continent.
That requires that your routing thru LON on your return from the Caribbean must be a transit without stopover to one of the countries listed above, to illustrate I picked NBO in the routing.

From South Africa people often use Mindpearl, the AA GSA in Cape Town for issuing rtw tickets. Their info is here:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/whereWeFly/internationalTickets/southAfrica.jsp
You can also search this forum for additional contact info.

For prices check expertflyer.com or here:
http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/

The canada exception allows purchase in Canada for a ticket departing from another country. Search the forum for others experiences.
When travel originates in a Country for which a specific local currency fare is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted into the currency of sale at the bank selling rate, the resultant fare must not be lower than that from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada or when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.

I'm not sure where you read that you will break "the rules" of your BA avios account by a positioning flight but there is nothing improper or untoward about a oneway award to another city.

Global explorer don't seem to get used as much oneworld explorer tickets because of their inherent mileage restriction. You must determine if the additional airlines you can use (and destinations you can reach) with a global explorer are worth more than the mileage freedom you have with donex and whether it might be cheaper or easier to just purchase additional tickets outside of a DONEx to reach those additional destinations.

So can I not go to MRU then transit through JNB on the way back ? If not I could purchase an additional ticket JNB-MRU-JNB.

I was then planning on using the JNB-PER SA/QF code share QF304.

Thanks for the link to the milage map.

On the map I changed the route to

jnb-mru,mru-jnb-per,per-syd,syd-akl,akl-ppt,ppt-ipc,ipc-lim,lim-mia,mia-uvf,uvf-lgw,lhr-jnb

This gave me a total of 33861 miles which fits perfect into the DGLOB34

I do prefer the DONEx but Tahiti is at the top of my most wanted list.

Jerry was getting himself confused between the DGLOB34 and the much more popular xONEx fares

Your itinerary is much closer to the 'correct' one for your purpose
But it is not valid

Your first two segments - JNB-MRU-JNB... violate two rules

your are returning to your point of origin (JNB) - this is only allowed at the end of the itinerary (rule 4F)
your are returning to your country of origin (Sth Africa), which is also only allowed at the end of the itinerary (rule 4G)

Other than that, your itinerary appears valid to me

Perhaps your positioning flight can be LGW-MRU (stopover) - JNB?
This will solve your problems, and also free up miles, which can be used elsewhere:
jnb-per-syd-akl-ppt-ipc-lim-mia-uvf-lgw,lhr-jnb (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jnb-per-syd-akl-ppt-ipc-lim-mia-uvf-lgw%2Clhr-jnb%0D%0A&MS=wls&PC=red&RC=navy&DU=mi)

The ticket rules are on the Oneworld website (http://www.oneworld.com/oneworld/assets/File/9701v129_Global_Explorer_1Mar12web(6).pdf)

ps Under the rules you must return to Africa at the end of the itinerary, but it does not have to be your point of origin, or even your country of origin - see rule 4D(f)

pps the base fare for your ex-JNB ticket is ZAR48000 (see the table at the bottom of the rule sheet); to which must added the various country taxes and various airline fuel surcharges. FYI ZAR4800 is approx USD6350 or GBP4050

Forget to say - great honeymoon you're planning^^

My plan is to get married in Mauritius in 2013 then go on a Global Explorer Business Class RTW ticket for our honeymoon.




I was then planning on using the JNB-PER SA/QF code share QF304.



Also be aware that the Australian competition authorities have 10 years late decided that the current joint service agreement between QF and SA is not in consumers best interests (duh) and issued a directive that will end the SA/QF duopoly that is in reality 2 monopolies on the JNB-SYD and JNB-PER routes. If the ruling stands come the end of the 2012 there will be no more code-sharing/co-operation on these two routes and unless QF recommences its own metal JNB-PER it is unlikely that the SA flight will be available on the Global Explorer ticket

So can I not go to MRU then transit through JNB on the way back ? If not I could purchase an additional ticket JNB-MRU-JNB.

I was then planning on using the JNB-PER SA/QF code share QF304.

Thanks for the link to the milage map.

On the map I changed the route to

jnb-mru,mru-jnb-per,per-syd,syd-akl,akl-ppt,ppt-ipc,ipc-lim,lim-mia,mia-uvf,uvf-lgw,lhr-jnb

This gave me a total of 33861 miles which fits perfect into the DGLOB34

I do prefer the DONEx but Tahiti is at the top of my most wanted list.
As noted by pandaperth your reworked itinerary still suffers from problems at the beginning.

Jerry was getting himself confused between the DGLOB34 and the much more popular xONEx fares

I'm not sure where I was getting confused between a global explorer and a oneworld explorer, I was merely showing the OP how his routing had to work if wanted to start in SA and then go to MRU before going to SWP.

I'm not sure where I was getting confused between a global explorer and a oneworld explorer, I was merely showing the OP how his routing had to work if wanted to start in SA and then go to MRU before going to SWP.

Oops. I beg your pardon
Re-reading your post, I now see that you had mentioned the issue of re-visiting point/country of origin and so had suggested the routing you did.
:o

(FYI ZAR4800 is approx USD6350 or GBP4050)

What a bargain.

(positioning flight can be LGW-MRU (stopover) - JNB)

So use the BA flight to MRU and the Comair to JNB.

(QF and SA is not in consumers best interests)

So if this flight stops I am stuffed as it is a long way round.

The milage restrictions on the DGLOB34 drive you to the One World Explorer but then I have the Tahiti problem and getting from MRU-PER.

15 years ago I did an unlimited milage unlimited stopover RTW out of SYD that you simply had to keep going either East or West, how I wish this was still available.

Thanks for all the input.

Also be aware that the Australian competition authorities have 10 years late decided that the current joint service agreement between QF and SA is not in consumers best interests (duh) and issued a directive that will end the SA/QF duopoly that is in reality 2 monopolies on the JNB-SYD and JNB-PER routes. If the ruling stands come the end of the 2012 there will be no more code-sharing/co-operation on these two routes and unless QF recommences its own metal JNB-PER it is unlikely that the SA flight will be available on the Global Explorer ticket
Australia-South Africa route IASC ruling: http://www.iasc.gov.au/determinations_decisions/files/2012/2012iasc201.pdf

It also appears that Australian airlines, as a whole, have permission to operate upto 14 services per week between Australia and "Johannesburg, Capetown and/or Durban" and anything to other locations in SA.

...
(QF and SA is not in consumers best interests)

So if this flight stops I am stuffed as it is a long way round.


Not at all - simply fly QF on its JNB-SYD flight (or maybe CX on its JNB-HKG flight)