JetBlue TrueBlue - Toddler Tantrum Gets Family Booted from JetBlue Flight.

They have absolutely no reason. The family were kicked it off the plane. This is ridiculous!! They will continued the flight back home. They doesn't do anything wrong. This is has happening the toddler did not return the seated and they did not followed the flight crew instructions.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/toddler-tantrum-gets-family-booted-jetblue-flight-flying-184600037.html

There is no reason to kicked them off the plane. Thsy should stay onboard the aircraft. They have remain in the seated and get ready for takeoff.

Shame on JetBlue!!! :mad::mad::td::td:

I agree. As a father of a 3-year-old, when I read that article I was horrified. It seemed that the parents were trying all they could. I'm sure all parents have been in that helpless situation, trying all we could to clam our child down. I just felt sick reading about what JetBlue did to this family.

And on top of all that, JetBlue only has one flight a week from PLS to BOS, so JetBlue basically just left them stranded....

Too bad. Control your kid for their own safety, that's why there are rules and regulations in place. If you can't control your child, don't board a plane with them. Would you expect to be allowed to fly if, when instructed to remain seated, a 35 year old decided to get up, climb over seats, etc. during taxi/take off?

No.


Full disclosure: I have no kids.

...Scrambling to find four seats on another Turks and Caicos flight bound for Boston, the Vieau family were forced to spent $2000 on overnight accommodations."

...really?

Seems like someone needs to find a waaaambulance.

Perhaps some kids aren't meant to travel. If they can't be seated safely during takeoff, landings, and other times when it's necessary, then perhaps a cruise would better suit them.

2k for one night? Seems a bit extreme, unless Comdex was in down.

That's why I felt sick to my stomach when I read the article....

Kids are just unpredictable. My son is perfectly calm and good 99% of the time, and almost every time we get off the flight the flight attendants tell us how good he was. Last time on a TATL flight they even thanked us for being good parents.

But, I know he is capable of throwing tantrums. He hasn't done it on a plane yet thankfully, but who knows, he may never do it, or he may go crazy on our next flight. We try to be fully prepared - his own backpack of toys, snacks, iPad, as much milk as the TSA allows, etc. But we know he is fully capable of it.

And reading what happened to this family just made me sick because I knew it could've been us....

...Scrambling to find four seats on another Turks and Caicos flight bound for Boston, the Vieau family were forced to spent $2000 on overnight accommodations."

...really?

That reporter mis-reported. Another news source pointed out the $2000 was for new tickets to fly home, plus one night of accommodations. 4 last-minute one-way tickets, plus one night of hotel. JetBlue left them stranded on the island....

I know 4 years ago I had the attitude other posters show here - be better parents, control your kid, etc etc. But now that I've experienced that helpless feeling, it completely changed my attitude.....

Too bad. Control your kid for their own safety, that's why there are rules and regulations in place. If you can't control your child, don't board a plane with them. Would you expect to be allowed to fly if, when instructed to remain seated, a 35 year old decided to get up, climb over seats, etc. during taxi/take off?

No.

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That's why I felt sick to my stomach when I read the article....

Kids are just unpredictable. My son is perfectly calm and good 99% of the time, and almost every time we get off the flight the flight attendants tell us how good he was. Last time on a TATL flight they even thanked us for being good parents.

But, I know he is capable of throwing tantrums. He hasn't done it on a plane yet thankfully, but who knows, he may never do it, or he may go crazy on our next flight. We try to be fully prepared - his own backpack of toys, snacks, iPad, as much milk as the TSA allows, etc. But we know he is fully capable of it.

And reading what happened to this family just made me sick because I knew it could've been us....

I do know that if I'm in J/F, I don't want some kids disturbing me during my work/sleep.

I do know that if I'm in J/F, I don't want some kids disturbing new during my work/sleep.

Right. I don't want to disturbed the children during in-flight. When I am sleeping. They won't bother me while I am sleep on the plane. I will wake up myself when I see the sun is shining.

Not hard to find those with kids and those without on this thread.

i've sat on the tarmac on two occasions now because of free-range parents who refused to constrain their children during taxi/takeoff -- even saw one couple get threatened with expulsion from the plane.

so i'd love to hear the story told by a neutral 3rd party who was on that plane before i go forming any opinion about jetblue.

I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. This was non-essential pleasure travel. Not medical, not emergency bereavement, not moving overseas where no other option exists. These parents chose to chance traveling to a flight-required destination with a toddler, they get to suffer the consequences of their poor decision making. Good for Jet Blue.

Mother was a pediatrician, she of all people should know about the wonders of medication/sedation. Or next time, take a holiday they can drive to in their own private car. Spare the rest of society from the brat. Parents are beginning to reap what they have sown, as the traveling public is beginning to push back and push hard.

Tons of empathy having travelled w. twins from 10 mos. to 8 years now. But, no sympathy. The captain's decision is safety based and has nothing to do with anything else. The consequences were terrible, but the captain's decision can't be based on whether there is hourly or weekly service.

What if the kid had been flung from her seat during a turbulent climb out and seriously injured? What if she had been flung and not injured, but had seriously injured another pax? (30-40 lb. projectile).

If this happened to me, I'd be upset, but not at the carrier.

Mother was a pediatrician, she of all people should know about the wonders of medication/sedation. Or next time, take a holiday they can drive to in their own private car. Spare the rest of society from the brat. Parents are beginning to reap what they have sown, as the traveling public is beginning to push back and push hard.

Medication is not the solution. That has it's own risks as well and is just not the answer.

You sound pretty arrogant, sometimes things happen with kids and you have to roll with the punches. You clearly don't have kids, and that's a good thing for all of us.

What if the kid had been flung from her seat during a turbulent climb out and seriously injured? What if she had been flung and not injured, but had seriously injured another pax? (30-40 lb. projectile).

Excellent point-- regardless of who would be injured in this scenario, B6 would probably end up with a lawsuit in their hands.

Medication is not the solution. That has it's own risks as well and is just not the answer.

You sound pretty arrogant, sometimes things happen with kids and you have to roll with the punches. You clearly don't have kids, and that's a good thing for all of us.

Medication is the solution, it just happens to be "the pill."

You're right, sometimes things do happen with kids. Like they act up, become a safety risk, and are removed from the plane. That's part of the obligation of being a parent, dealing with consequences when "things happen."

+1 - Not one of the critics has come up with a solution for the Captain, other than the one he exercised.

I think we need more info before rushing to judgment. If child was squirming in seat (as parents claim) that is not a safety issue. My toddler has squirmed before and we held her down in the seat. Why couldnt the parents do that? Yes its not easy but it can be done unless you are weak (though the child will express its displeasure. The article does not report that the toddler was climbing over seats (I agree that would be unacceptable).

As a parent of 5 and 2 I sympathize but there are always ways to calm down your child except perhaps autistic. Milk does the trick, as do games etc. We also have a preflight chat to discuss behavior expectations and the consequences using incidents like this as examples.

Alas insufficient detail to say what was tried or whether the FAs just got PO'd too quickly. Too bad no video, another casualty of the nonsensicdl "electronics off" rule.

I've heard that if the kid had been having a tantrum while seated and belted in it wouldn't have been a problem. It was the fact that the kid was running up and down the aisle. No airline lets adults wander the aisle during taxi, so why should a kid be able to do it?

+1 - Not one of the critics has come up with a solution for the Captain, other than the one he exercised.

Agreed!

That the family spent $2,000 on overnight accommodations has to be complete bs, too!

As someone that has to travel every week for work, I (and I'm sure many others on this board) get stressed enough when we're stuck next to a screaming/crying kid on a 2-5 hour flight. I love the explanation that it's not the parents fault, though. If that's the case, then who is responsible? It makes everyone on the plane on-edge and stressed out and we all have our own problems. I'm glad that JetBlue did this--maybe now parents will come on-board with the expectation that they need to control their kids...or else! :D

Agreed!

That the family spent $2,000 on overnight accommodations has to be complete bs, too!

As someone that has to travel every week for work, I (and I'm sure many others on this board) get stressed enough when we're stuck next to a screaming/crying kid on a 2-5 hour flight. I love the explanation that it's not the parents fault, though. If that's the case, then who is responsible? It makes everyone on the plane on-edge and stressed out and we all have our own problems. I'm glad that JetBlue did this--maybe now parents will come on-board with the expectation that they need to control their kids...or else! :D
What happens when the aircraft has to wait, the crew times out an an entire aircraft full of people are stuck overnighting overeas. Some people might actually have jobs and work to return to.

In the end, at worst, this decision inconvenienced one family and the rest presumably got home OK.

This isn't about temper tantrums. Those are part of life. This is about safety of pax.

I don't feel sorry for the parents at all. This was non-essential pleasure travel. Not medical, not emergency bereavement, not moving overseas where no other option exists. These parents chose to chance traveling to a flight-required destination with a toddler, they get to suffer the consequences of their poor decision making. Good for Jet Blue.

Mother was a pediatrician, she of all people should know about the wonders of medication/sedation. Or next time, take a holiday they can drive to in their own private car. Spare the rest of society from the brat. Parents are beginning to reap what they have sown, as the traveling public is beginning to push back and push hard.

That info makes it even more interesting. I agree that had it been a 35 year old they wouldn't have tolerated it. Safety is safety. What about all the other passengers? Must the majority suffer?

Other articles online has additional information....

-The toddler wanted to be held by her mom, but since she just turned 2, she had to be in her own seat. She was not running up and down the aisle
-The parents got her safely buckled into the seat

I don't think any of us were there to witness the event, so we don't know for sure. However, they did have the toddler safely buckled into the seat.


I think those who don't have kids, or those with kids who are always well-behaved, will never understand, and will applaud JetBlue for their actions. But those who have kids and been in these situations will find this event horrifying.

JetBlue could've turned this into a positive event, showing the public that they are a family friendly company. But for some odd reason they took the opposite stance. They will win some fans, but will lose some for sure....

Medication is the solution, it just happens to be "the pill."

You're right, sometimes things do happen with kids. Like they act up, become a safety risk, and are removed from the plane. That's part of the obligation of being a parent, dealing with consequences when "things happen."

I've seen adults throw temper tantrums and be removed from airplanes in my time. I don't think it's just kids. The kids are not a safety risk in most cases, that's just plain bull$hit and you know it.

I've seen adults throw temper tantrums and be removed from airplanes in my time. I don't think it's just kids. The kids are not a safety risk in most cases, that's just plain bull$hit and you know it.

I never said it was just kids. My point is if we're removing adults from the plane these days for totally asinine, minor things, then to not do so for children screams of age discrimination. Thus, my point that just because the kid is 2 doesn't excuse them from following the rules.

After reading the article, this is the quote that explained it to me:

"We were holding them down with all of our might, seat belt on. And I said, 'We have them seated. Can we go now?" Colette, a pediatrician, told Rhode Island's NBC 10.


I do not think this is a tantrum that was under control. This was two parents holding the children down with all of their might. I think the pilot was correct.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46703604#46703604

Get your snarling brat off my flight...and stay off!

Saw them on the TV in the gym; all cherubic blonde kids with no hint of the tiny terror these brats were, parents blissfully clueless as to WHY US?

Shameless attitude; shameful behavior.

Get your snarling brat off my flight...and stay off!

Saw them on the TV in the gym; all cherubic blonde kids with no hint of the tiny terror these brats were, parents blissfully clueless as to WHY US?

Shameless attitude; shameful behavior.

Without going too far off topic, we've seen this all around us: restaurants, grocery store, the mall, etc. etc. Society has become very lax and overly tolerant with little monsters who are not made to behave and are allowed to get away with their tantrums because the parents ignore it or give in. I've witnessed on more than one occasion a parent giving in to buying candy or a toy because the kid was screaming and they wanted to take the easy out and shut them up. That's the wrong way to do it! Hello??!! IF they behave and show some manners in public THEN YOU REWARD THEM, however, they should understand that the expectation is that they show manners at all times.

Now, some of you will jump on the "you don't have kids" statement with me. Well, you're wrong. I've got two that are now 26 and 24 and they traveled from the age of 4 months onward. Did they cry on the plane as a baby--yes, but they were controlled with a pacifier, games, Cheerios, etc., it is not hard. They traveled in business class once they were old enough (around 11 or so) and were better behaved than many of the adults.

It's all a matter of how you bring up the child and set the proper boundaries and expectations of their behavior. Once they are taught that properly they will follow the guidelines.

Tons of empathy having travelled w. twins from 10 mos. to 8 years now. But, no sympathy. The captain's decision is safety based and has nothing to do with anything else. The consequences were terrible, but the captain's decision can't be based on whether there is hourly or weekly service.


How is a temper tantrum a safety issue?

Child running up/down the aisle is a safety issue. Not buckled in is a safety issue. But supposedly none of that was going on here. If the kid was buckled in, regardless of what noise was coming out of the kid or how hard the parents were having to hold him down, I don't see how it's a safety issue. There's no silence requirement for takeoff, and the noise of the engines or any serious incident is going to make it harder to understand FA instructions than a screaming child. And realistically, if the parent could have held the child 20 seconds after takeoff, the tantrum almost certainly would have stopped.

Now, such a racket is a comfort issue. And if the airline/captain decided to go back for the comfort of the passengers, whether or not that is appropriate is a legitimate discussion. But calling an unruly child who is buckled into a seat belt a "safety issue" is disingenuous IMO.

As some have pointed out, none of us were there. But since the Captain was there, and has sole discretion and responsibility over the aircraft and safety of flight, I have to side with his judgment.

The parents rolled the dice by taking an unnecessary leisure flight with toddlers. They lost. Better luck next time.

As some have pointed out, none of us were there. But since the Captain was there, and has sole discretion and responsibility over the aircraft and safety of flight, I have to side with his judgment.

The parents rolled the dice by taking an unnecessary leisure flight with toddlers. They lost. Better luck next time.

Hmm apologies in advance for disagreeing - but the Captain was up front behind locked doors, so he wasn't there in person to observe either.... He had to listen to and rely on whatever the FA was telling him....

As I read more about this event, more interesting facts are coming out.... Apparently there were other passengers advocating for this family / siding with them, so we cannot rule out that the FA went on a power trip and other passengers / independent observers saw right through it.

Another point about delays - once the girl was buckled in, they could've taken off causing minimal delay. Instead the Captain chose to delay further by returning to the ramp, off loading the pax and thus having to find and offload their bags.....

If all the girl wanted was for her mom to hold her, and she was already in her seat buckled in, it wouldn't be a safety issue to takeoff. In 10 minutes, once at altitude with seatbelt sign off, the girl can then climb into mommy's lap, and most likely fall asleep for the remainder of the flight. Everyone will have a nice flight to Boston, and this is how it should've been.

I recall reading about other airlines training their FAs to "de-escalate" any situation. None of us witness the event, but based on what I've read so far, there was no de-escalating of any kind by the FA.....

Again, the quote from the mother was that they had them buckled in and were holding them down with all their might. This is not under control. Do you really think that holding a screaming child down with all your might was in control? What was going to happen when the parents got tired? Were other passengers going to volunteer to hold them down with all their might? If there was turbulence they might have to hold them down with all their might for the entire flight. What would be the physical damage to a child screaming for the entire flight?

No, they had to leave the plane. I wouldn't want to take responsibility for two out of control children.

And the interview on the Today show really highlighted how little control the parents have with these two children. Guys, drive to Disney World until you've got a better handle on this behavior.

What was going to happen when the parents got tired? Were other passengers going to volunteer to hold them down with all their might? If there was turbulence they might have to hold them down with all their might for the entire flight.


Excellent point. I think the "all their might" comment is an admission that the situation was not at all under control. This was obviously more than simply a crying child or baby.

Once again none of us were there so it is hard to judge.

I will say, however, I watched the family interview on the Today Show and one of the kids was climbing all over the place. I had to chuckle, they couldn't even control the daughter on the tv show (this time it appeared to be the older one).

I believe this would have been avoided had the family elected to bring FAA approved child restraint systems (carseat) onboard. They had seats for everyone both children were over two. This way the child would have been safely restrained accordingly and timely without any type of disruption.

-Just sayin'

For those who are lauding the decision made by jetblue, you probably don't have children. It's akin to men believing they know better than women about how to care for women's bodies. Lol. Let the flames begin...

Not hard to find those with kids and those without on this thread.
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And everyone knows FAs have raised their own children and always use common sense. Lol.

Again, the quote from the mother was that they had them buckled in and were holding them down with all their might. This is not under control. Do you really think that holding a screaming child down with all your might was in control? What was going to happen when the parents got tired? Were other passengers going to volunteer to hold them down with all their might? If there was turbulence they might have to hold them down with all their might for the entire flight. What would be the physical damage to a child screaming for the entire flight?

No, they had to leave the plane. I wouldn't want to take responsibility for two out of control children.

And the interview on the Today show really highlighted how little control the parents have with these two children. Guys, drive to Disney World until you've got a better handle on this behavior.

If you need to hold them down while the seatbelt is on then thats an issue .
Its a safety issue and its better to solve it on the ground then to deal with it in the air (especially with an international flight). I have a child and I would not want to hurt the other passengers if my child was not calm. I also kept him in the carseat until he was 3.

For those who are lauding the decision made by jetblue, you probably don't have children. It's akin to men believing they know better than women about how to care for women's bodies. Lol. Let the flames begin...

We can only go with what the mother said. She said that she was holding the child down with "all her might." This is, by definition, not "under control."

If the mother's best defense of the situation is actually an admission that the situation was not under control, I think the only reasonable conclusion is that the situation was in fact not under control. If it was not under control, then getting the kids off the plane was not an inappropriate response by the flight crew.

I'm certainly willing to hear other points of view, but I think MarieS's point wins the day.

Medication is not the solution. That has it's own risks as well and is just not the answer.

You sound pretty arrogant, sometimes things happen with kids and you have to roll with the punches. You clearly don't have kids, and that's a good thing for all of us.

Everything has risks. Of course medication can be the answer. Just because parents have to "roll with the punches" doesn't mean they get to force everybody else crammed into a cramped metal flying tube with no means of escape to also "roll." You sound like one of those arrogant, entitled parents. Hopefully you can keep control of your kids better than these parents can. Comments similar to mine are part of the BACKLASH that is way overdue.

As for other passengers "siding with the family" well, control of the airplane is not a democracy. Captain gets final say, that's why he's got the 4 stripes on the shoulder.

For those who are lauding the decision made by jetblue, you probably don't have children. It's akin to men believing they know better than women about how to care for women's bodies. Lol. Let the flames begin...

So, you asked for a flame, you got it. I am so sick of special cases!! I'm a women I'm special, I've got kids I'm special, I'm over 70 I'm special, I have service dog because I wear glasses. I bought a ticket like you, I just want to board the plane, relax and get to my destination. I don't want to deal with your problems, I don't want you to deal with my problems. I fly over 200k a year, this is all way out of control. And I don't really see how your body has anything to do with how your screaming out of control children ruin my flight

I read the articles and saw the video of the tv interview. And even though I was not there...I understand why Jet Blue might have made the decision to remove the family.

And yes, I am a mother. My son started flying when he was 8 months old. And we took a number of trips when he was 1, 2 and 3. Boy oh Boy... I do not miss those times!! Thankfully he has always had good flights and I never went through him having a tantrum on a plane.......

But I can remember some MAJOR TANTRUMS that took place at that age when I needed to buckle him in the car seat in my mini-van. Times when he was fighting, kicking, not getting in the seat tantrum!! With me physically trying to restrain him to get him buckled in. And my husband was helping me! And even when I got him buckled in he continued to scream and throw a fit for the next 30 minutes on the drive home!!

Geez it was horrible! So here we have a child...age two...who did not have her nap and she decides to have a fit. The mother admitted they were doing everything they could to hold her down in her seat. The situation did not get better. She might have been buckled in but still kicking, screaming, crying etc. The tantrum could have kept going on for another 30 minutes or more with the child physically still trying to get out of her seat.

It sounds like a very bad situation. Made worse by the fact that JetBlue only had a limited schedule. I am not surprised that so many people agree that the airline did the right thing.

Everything has risks. Of course medication can be the answer. Just because parents have to "roll with the punches" doesn't mean they get to force everybody else crammed into a cramped metal flying tube with no means of escape to also "roll." You sound like one of those arrogant, entitled parents. Hopefully you can keep control of your kids better than these parents can. Comments similar to mine are part of the BACKLASH that is way overdue.

As for other passengers "siding with the family" well, control of the airplane is not a democracy. Captain gets final say, that's why he's got the 4 stripes on the shoulder.

Look pal, I didn't side with the family or anything else. I said that you just don't go callously medicating kids (or people for that matter) responding to your incredibly stupid comment. The captain simply made a call and that's what he did.

Maybe you should actually read what I wrote before spewing off. Simply put you are an arrogant, a-hole with some know it all attitude. You think you are somehow better than everyone and somehow think medication or drugs are the answer? You have no medical and pharmaceutical background and have no idea what the heck you are even talking about other than perhaps your own experience as a drug user or drug dealer.

So, you asked for a flame, you got it. I am so sick of special cases!! I'm a women I'm special, I've got kids I'm special, I'm over 70 I'm special, I have service dog because I wear glasses. I bought a ticket like you, I just want to board the plane, relax and get to my destination. I don't want to deal with your problems, I don't want you to deal with my problems. I fly over 200k a year, this is all way out of control.

Hear, hear! Don't you just miss the good ol' days when men were men and everyone else were non-persons?

And I don't really see how your body has anything to do with how your screaming out of control children ruin my flight

Ducati was drawing a parallel between the childless offering child-rearing advice, and men dictating the rules for women's sexual health.

But we digress.

As a father of a 3-year-old, when I read that article I was horrified. It seemed that the parents were trying all they could.

in this situation, "trying all they could" doesn't count. What counts is the result. If you can't control your child, don't fly.

After reading the article, this is the quote that explained it to me:

"We were holding them down with all of our might, seat belt on. And I said, 'We have them seated. Can we go now?" Colette, a pediatrician, told Rhode Island's NBC 10.


I do not think this is a tantrum that was under control. This was two parents holding the children down with all of their might. I think the pilot was correct.

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http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46703604#46703604

In its own way, the portion of the video in which the parents are interviewed is hilarious. They're talking about having their kids under control on the plane when they didn't have them under control during the interview.

As some have pointed out, none of us were there. But since the Captain was there, and has sole discretion and responsibility over the aircraft and safety of flight, I have to side with his judgment.

The parents rolled the dice by taking an unnecessary leisure flight with toddlers. They lost. Better luck next time.



Again, the quote from the mother was that they had them buckled in and were holding them down with all their might. This is not under control. Do you really think that holding a screaming child down with all your might was in control? What was going to happen when the parents got tired? Were other passengers going to volunteer to hold them down with all their might? If there was turbulence they might have to hold them down with all their might for the entire flight. What would be the physical damage to a child screaming for the entire flight?

No, they had to leave the plane. I wouldn't want to take responsibility for two out of control children.

And the interview on the Today show really highlighted how little control the parents have with these two children. Guys, drive to Disney World until you've got a better handle on this behavior.

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The bottom line is that the captain made what seems to be a sensible judgment call when letting the child (and family) stay on the plane could have led to further problems, not least delays and possible missed connections and other inconvenience for the other passengers. There's the chance that the child would have calmed down, but by no means a certainty.

Mother of 3; Grandmother of 5:
If your children can't behave in a restaurant, don't eat out. If your child cannot behave in a plane, stay off. Why should the rest of the passengers and flight crew be subjected to your child's tantrums? Give me a break!!!:mad:

To those concerned that this is an adult "temper tantrum;" Unequivocally no. I am just emphatic in my belief that because a parent wears their "love goggles," and/or might think their child's behavior is cute etc etc etc; others don't necessarily think so and shouldn't be expected to tolerate misbehavior. Period :)

The quote didn't paste. Boo! To the "flame" ; yes!!

Mother of 3; Grandmother of 5:
If your children can't behave in a restaurant, don't eat out. If your child cannot behave in a plane, stay off. Why should the rest of the passengers and flight crew be subjected to your child's tantrums? Give me a break!!!:mad:

Excellent! A grown-up version of a toddler tantrum!!! :D

Just goes to show it can happen to the best of us.

Mother of 3; Grandmother of 5:
If your children can't behave in a restaurant, don't eat out. If your child cannot behave in a plane, stay off. Why should the rest of the passengers and flight crew be subjected to your child's tantrums? Give me a break!!!:mad:

Excellent! A grown-up version of a toddler tantrum!!! :D

Just goes to show it can happen to the best of us.

Absolutely not and perhaps a refresher in good manners would be helpful or is it another example of the entitlement, rules don't apply to me so suck it up because whatever makes me happy goes, mentality that seems to be prevalent. :cool:

Mother of 3; Grandmother of 5:
If your children can't behave in a restaurant, don't eat out. If your child cannot behave in a plane, stay off. Why should the rest of the passengers and flight crew be subjected to your child's tantrums? Give me a break!!!:mad:

Excellent! A grown-up version of a toddler tantrum!!! :D

Just goes to show it can happen to the best of us.

:confused: Grown-up version of a temper tantrum? I don't see it that way at all. Surely three exclamation points and a mad emoticon do not constitute the equivalent of yelling, screaming and stomping of feet?

Control your kid, it's not your own private jet. There are 100+ other paying customers on the plane who do not deserve to put up with a child throwing a tantrum. It's similar to people who bring crying babies into a movie theater, and is extremely inconsiderate of the others around you. Give the kid some Dramamine or find out another way to keep him from throwing a tantrum.