Flying Blue (Air France, KLM, and Other Partners) - Yet another increase in fuel surcharge

AF and KL have announced that from March they are further increasing the fuel surcharge (YQ) for Affaires and Premiere tickets on long haul flights by €30 per segment :td:

Yeah, analysts are calling for a 30% increase in oil costs by end of summer. Regardless of whether or not it's true, airlines are going to start gauging as a way to "future proof."

Go AF, you will stay ahead of BA on the YQ podium!

Go AF, you will stay ahead of BA on the YQ podium!

What's the current YQ for BA on long-hauls?

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Thanks!

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Don't you think it should be split fairly over the whole cabin ? (Or do I use up more fuel up the front ?)

Don't you think it should be split fairly over the whole cabin ? (Or do I use up more fuel up the front ?)

But it is split fairly. (I presume you meant "split evenly").

And yes, a pax sitting in First definitely accounts for a greater fuel burn than one sitting in economy.

But it is split fairly. (I presume you meant "split evenly").

And yes, a pax sitting in First definitely accounts for a greater fuel burn than one sitting in economy.

+1. Not even including the luggage allowance, think of it that way: let's say that an airline flies two similar planes in two different configurations: one is a 'first class only' plane made of 30 seats in total. The second is an 'economy class only' version of the same plane made of 300 passengers. Now would you agree that it wouldn't make sense to charge every customer a €100 fuel surcharge which would lead to a €3000 fuel contribution to the first plane and €30000 to the second? It's just the same when the single plane is 'shared' into different cabins, so in fact, in many ways, the current fuel surcharge deal is probably more advantageous to 'front' customers than to 'back' ones.

Link (http://f.klm-email.com/i/37/276565485/PN_Fuel8maart2012.pdf)


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KL's shorthaul fuel surcharge is now €41.

According to an article in Flight International, Air Berlin claim they have the lowest average fuel consumption of any airline in Europe, at 3.5 liters per 100 passenger kilometers.

KL is no doubt far less efficient, so let's assume their figure is 4.5L/100rpk. I flew AMS-CPH yesterday, a distance of 635 km. 4.5 x 6.35 = 28.57 liters.

According to IATA's Jet Fuel Price Monitor (http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/economics/fuel_monitor/Pages/index.aspx), jet fuel is currently 333 US cents per gallon, i.e. 88 US cents per liter, which equals € 0.67.

28,57 x 0.67 = € 19.14, which is less than half the €41 surcharge.

I know, there are longer shorthaul flights, load factors fluctuate, fuel efficiency varies between aircraft, fuel doesn't cost the same eveywhere, etc.

But still!

Johan

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AF and KL have announced that from March they are further increasing the fuel surcharge (YQ) for Affaires and Premiere tickets on long haul flights by €30 per segment :td:

well i will agree with you that this is bad but keep in mind where the oil price is and what's the forecast for the next 6 months. :/

KL's shorthaul fuel surcharge is now €41.

According to an article in Flight International, Air Berlin claim they have the lowest average fuel consumption of any airline in Europe, at 3.5 liters per 100 passenger kilometers.

KL is no doubt far less efficient, so let's assume their figure is 4.5L/100rpk. I flew AMS-CPH yesterday, a distance of 635 km. 4.5 x 6.35 = 28.57 liters.

According to IATA's Jet Fuel Price Monitor (http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/economics/fuel_monitor/Pages/index.aspx), jet fuel is currently 333 US cents per gallon, i.e. 88 US cents per liter, which equals € 0.67.

28,57 x 0.67 = € 19.14, which is less than half the €41 surcharge.

I know, there are longer shorthaul flights, load factors fluctuate, fuel efficiency varies between aircraft, fuel doesn't cost the same eveywhere, etc.

But still!

Johan

Spot on! And adding to this: before the times of fuel surcharges fuel cost was also part of the ticket price and the airlines claimed that just the HIGHER fuel cost now would be the reason of a fuel surcharge.

Fuel surcharge now is clearly a part of the profit margin - which it should be by no means and is misleading at least if not right out fraud.

Also adding to my anger: Most airlines will not refund their so called "taxes" and fuel surcharges after cancelling of a ticket, which they would have to if it would be part of the fare...!

Also adding to my anger: Most airlines will not refund their so called "taxes" and fuel surcharges after cancelling of a ticket, which they would have to if it would be part of the fare...!

You are confusing things here, maybe out of anger? :-)

1. AFKL refunds taxes whenever you tell them in advance you will not make a flight. No matter if the fare allows cancellation.

2. For the purpose of refund, surcharges are treated as fare component and not as tax.
This implies that AFKL refunds fare and fuel surcharge whenever a fare allows for refund on cancellation.

Yeah, analysts are calling for a 30% increase in oil costs by end of summer. Regardless of whether or not it's true, airlines are going to start gauging as a way to "future proof."

30%?? I hope MRs don't go the way of the dinosaurs..