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SirJman
Feb 4, 12, 7:01 am
Are there any decent internet cafes (like popeyes, or other big ones) or other places close to HND that I can get a few hours sleep before a 6am flight? I have 3 of these overnights to make over the next few weeks (and 2 in NRT, so suggestions for there as well)

Last time I stayed in Yokohama (1700 for 8 hours I believe, for the medium size box), but I know there must be closer ones.


jib71
Feb 4, 12, 7:20 am
I have no idea if this is "decent" - It's 1500 yen to stay from 10pm to 8am. It's one minute walk from Keikyu Kamata station and it takes reservations. From the owner's message, it looks like the store caters to quite a few Haneda passengers:
http://www.mangaland.co.jp/store.html?storeid=38

By Kamata Station (JR) there are several other manga cafes, including a couple of Manbo places. You can get there on foot from Keikyu Kamata and there's a bus to the airport from around there too.

LapLap
Feb 4, 12, 7:43 am
By Kamata Station (JR) there are several other manga cafes, including a couple of Manbo places. You can get there on foot from Keikyu Kamata and there's a bus to the airport from around there too.
I've seen a few reports saying that the Kamata area draws a lot of people without permanent addresses as the cybercafes are slightly cheaper than the city counterparts. And that was before Haneda went international.
The link jib71 posted is the better location as Keikyu Kamata is much more convenient than the JR Kamata station. But here's another example if you end up having to look around further than the Keikyu served Eastern part of Kamata.
http://www.bagus-99.com/netcafe/store/kamata.html

And don't forget to look at the end of the Tokyo Onsen thread for details of urban hotsprings open late. They're generally under 500yen and a perfect way to freshen up, relax and dispel any lingering cyber-cafe aromas pre-flight
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17924427-post27.html

Not appropriate for the OP but should anybody have spent the night in a cyber-cafe and have a later flight that would allow it there's a public bath with a hot spring at a convenient distance from Haneda - it's about a ten minute walk from Kojiya station on the Keikyu line (you can also walk there from Keikyu Kamata station if you wanted to). The bath house is unusual for having a 6am opening time as most open in the afternoon.
Here's the web link (in English) with maps, opening times and more details.
Sachino yu (http://www.ota1010.com/yu.cgi?no=007,code=e)


SirJman
Feb 4, 12, 7:46 am
The 5 hour-1000Y packages in those look like they'd serve the purpose just fine. I'd be heading back to HND around 5 to hit the lounge for a shower.^

jib71
Feb 4, 12, 7:46 am
a perfect way to freshen up, relax and dispel any lingering cyber-cafe aromas pre-flight
Oh dear - yuck.
The one I linked to has a bathroom to wash in (additional fee).

jib71
Feb 4, 12, 7:49 am
May I ask - What are you doing that requires you to overnight at HND frequently but doesn't cover the cost of a hotel? Is there a mileage run opportunity?

LapLap
Feb 4, 12, 7:51 am
Oh dear - yuck.
The one I linked to has a bathroom to wash in (additional fee).
I'm afraid I had to remove my Sachinoyu suggestion. I'd forgotten the OP's 6am flight time. The same time this establishment opens.
Mine wasn't a helpful comment.

jib71
Feb 4, 12, 10:14 am
I'm afraid I had to remove my Sachinoyu suggestion. I'd forgotten the OP's 6am flight time.

It might be helpful to someone else - perhaps you should throw it back in with the opening time.

MSPeconomist
Feb 4, 12, 10:17 am
Check the sleeping in airports website.

SirJman
Feb 4, 12, 10:22 am
Check the sleeping in airports website.

I dont want to actually sleep IN HND, as I will be spending all day in Tokyo, I just wanted somewhere to shut my eyes for a few hours before heading back to HND the following morning.

NewbieRunner
Feb 4, 12, 10:55 am
And there's a Keikyu bus which leaves kamata Station at 04:30 and arrives at HND International Terminal at 04:50.

LapLap
Feb 4, 12, 2:39 pm
It might be helpful to someone else - perhaps you should throw it back in with the opening time.
Done.

SirJman
Feb 4, 12, 7:50 pm
And there's a Keikyu bus which leaves kamata Station at 04:30 and arrives at HND International Terminal at 04:50.
How much is that?

NewbieRunner
Feb 4, 12, 9:21 pm
How much is that?
The fare is 540 yen (double the usual fare) and it leaves from bus stop no.4 (日ノ出通り経由4番) outside the East entrance of Kamata station.

http://www.keikyu-bus.co.jp/noriba/kamata_limousine.html

SirJman
Feb 4, 12, 10:38 pm
The fare is 540 yen (double the usual fare) and it leaves from bus stop no.4 (日ノ出通り経由4番) outside the East entrance of Kamata station.

http://www.keikyu-bus.co.jp/noriba/kamata_limousine.html

Any reason for the double fare?

NewbieRunner
Feb 4, 12, 11:10 pm
Any reason for the double fare?
Just like taxis charging extra late at night and early morning? I believe workers are paid extra by law for working between 10pm and 5am.

p.s. A taxi ride will cost ¥3,230 ~ ¥3,320.

MSPeconomist
Feb 4, 12, 11:21 pm
You could check the Friendly limo bus schedule to HND and pick a hotel where it stops at a good time for you. There is now service for the very late evening departures from the international terminal and I suspect there are also runs for the very early departures.

LapLap
Feb 5, 12, 1:39 am
You could check the Friendly limo bus schedule to HND and pick a hotel where it stops at a good time for you. There is now service for the very late evening departures from the international terminal and I suspect there are also runs for the very early departures.
Really?

I was surprised at this and had a look see. Looked, couldn't see any.

Do you have a basis for this suspicion and can point the OP (or anyone else coming to this thread) to a suitable route? I can't find one.

I also just checked the prices for MK Taxis http://www.tokyomk.com/eng/
They hike up the prices by 10% between midnight and 5am and it costs roughly 360yen a km on clear roads for an early morning trip. The airport is about 5 kms from Kamata so although the journey should cost around 2,000yen it could easily be the 3,000yen figure NewbieRunner quoted depending on the taxi driver/route or the taxi company used.
940yen (540y) for the bus from Kamata station is looking pretty appealing to me.

NewbieRunner
Feb 5, 12, 2:06 am
I was surprised at this and had a look see. Looked, couldn't see any.
I can't find any very early morning limousine bus to the airport either.

Hotel JAL City Haneda (http://www.jalhotels.com/haneda/) has a free shuttle bus departing at 4:30am. Haneda Inn (http://www.hanedainn.co.jp/) has one departing at 4:20am.  However, I doubt very much that you can just turn up and hitch a ride unless you have stayed overnnight at the hotel.

940yen for the bus from Kamata station is looking pretty appealing to me.
It's actually 540yen and an even better value. :)

LapLap
Feb 5, 12, 2:11 am
Hotel JAL City Haneda (http://www.jalhotels.com/haneda/) has a free shuttle bus departing at 4:30am. Haneda Inn (http://www.hanedainn.co.jp/) has one departing at 4:20am.

However, I doubt very much that you can just turn up and hitch a ride unless you have stayed overnnight at the hotel.
That's good to know. I must stress that this isn't the Limousine Service MSPeconomist was imagining
It's actually 540yen and an even better value. :)
Good catch! I misread your earlier post and doubled the fare you'd already doubled. Will go back and correct.

MSPeconomist
Feb 5, 12, 2:25 am
Really?

I was surprised at this and had a look see. Looked, couldn't see any.

Do you have a basis for this suspicion and can point the OP (or anyone else coming to this thread) to a suitable route? I can't find one.

I also just checked the prices for MK Taxis http://www.tokyomk.com/eng/
They hike up the prices by 10% between midnight and 5am and it costs roughly 360yen a km on clear roads for an early morning trip. The airport is about 5 kms from Kamata so although the journey should cost around 2,000yen it could easily be the 3,000yen figure NewbieRunner quoted depending on the taxi driver/route or the taxi company used.
940yen (540y) for the bus from Kamata station is looking pretty appealing to me.
On my last trip to Tokyo, several months ago, I departed HND on one of the late evening flights and was able to take the Friendly limo bus door to door to the HND international terminal from my hotel. It was pleasant and convenient. Given this, it would not be a stretch to suspect that there might also be some early morning routes to accommodate the early morning HND departures. I certainly did not imagine how I got to HND for my own flight.

This suggestion for the OP to check (it's not my job!) was not at all unreasonable and should not have generated sarcasm. I made it very clear that I was not asserting that there would necessarily be such an acceptable limo bus from some unknown hotel at some unknown time but that I was simply suggesting that the OP do his/her own research and consider checking this possibility.

MSPeconomist
Feb 5, 12, 2:27 am
That's good to know. I must stress that this isn't the Limousine Service MSPeconomist was imagining

I did not imagine how I got to HND for my flight, despite what you might think. IIRC I paid 570 yen but I do not plan to use my time to find the receipt just to prove something to you.

NewbieRunner
Feb 5, 12, 2:30 am
That's good to know. I must stress that this isn't the Limousine Service MSPeconomist was imagining
Yes, I realised. I've added a sentence at the beginning to confirm I can't find early morning limousine services either.

LapLap
Feb 5, 12, 5:39 am
This suggestion for the OP to check (it's not my job!) was not at all unreasonable and should not have generated sarcasm.
It was also not unreasonable for me to check on the OP's (and my own and on others') behalf. To explore the Friendly Limousine's timetables is a bit time consuming (as you know because you'd prefer not to do it) and is a little easier to do when one has some familiarity with the Tokyo neighbourhoods. So I took your suggestion seriously - which is why I wrote "Really?" - and pursued the matter.

You imagined there might be an early morning service that would allow the OP to arrive at Haneda by 7am. That's what a 'suspicion' is, you 'imagined something' and I'm sure you had good cause to.

I investigated, showed that there was no basis for your suspicion (having gone through the timetables) and reported back those findings so that nobody else would waste more time than I already had investigating them.

Perhaps I've missed something.

I don't need you to 'prove' anything but perhaps in the interest of helpfulness (which is different to 'time wasting', a result caused equally by benign as well as malign suggestions) you could disclose what sort of time it was when your early flight left Haneda and what part of Tokyo you were staying in. No need to dig out any receipt.

Please look again at the wording I used. Perhaps it wasn't as warm and cuddly as you'd like it to be but there was no sarcasm used or intended. That interpretation was all yours.

SirJman
Feb 5, 12, 5:46 am
Is the bus from Kamata regular price after 5am? I think getting a bus from there after getting a 5 hour rate at a local internet cafe sounds like a plan.

NewbieRunner
Feb 5, 12, 6:38 am
Is the bus from Kamata regular price after 5am? I think getting a bus from there after getting a 5 hour rate at a local internet cafe sounds like a plan.
Are you going to the International Terminal or the Domestic Terminal? Keikyu buses other than the early morning service all seem to go to Domestic Terminal 1.

From Kamata station there seem to be two services. Kamata-Haneda Shuttle (http://hnd-bus.com/route/kamata-shuttle.html) (蒲95) which leaves from bus stop 0 at 10min and 40min past the hour, and another via Hinode Street (http://timetablenavi.keikyu-bus.co.jp/dia/timetable/web/51174/8510306012/) (蒲31) which leaves bus stop 4 at 5.30am, 6.00am, 6.30am, etc. (more frequent service later). The fare is 270 yen.

MSPeconomist
Feb 5, 12, 10:43 am
It was also not unreasonable for me to check on the OP's (and my own and on others') behalf. To explore the Friendly Limousine's timetables is a bit time consuming (as you know because you'd prefer not to do it) and is a little easier to do when one has some familiarity with the Tokyo neighbourhoods. So I took your suggestion seriously - which is why I wrote "Really?" - and pursued the matter.

You imagined there might be an early morning service that would allow the OP to arrive at Haneda by 7am. That's what a 'suspicion' is, you 'imagined something' and I'm sure you had good cause to.

I investigated, showed that there was no basis for your suspicion (having gone through the timetables) and reported back those findings so that nobody else would waste more time than I already had investigating them.

Perhaps I've missed something.

I don't need you to 'prove' anything but perhaps in the interest of helpfulness (which is different to 'time wasting', a result caused equally by benign as well as malign suggestions) you could disclose what sort of time it was when your early flight left Haneda and what part of Tokyo you were staying in. No need to dig out any receipt.

Please look again at the wording I used. Perhaps it wasn't as warm and cuddly as you'd like it to be but there was no sarcasm used or intended. That interpretation was all yours.
Well, I did not imagine leaving the Imperial Hotel at 21:05 and arriving at HND international terminal at 22:00.

For early morning departures from HND, one can leave TCAT at 4:55 and arrive at the international terminal only of HND at 5:10 am. For a hotel departure, you can leave from the Hilton at 4:25 am and arrive at the airport by 5:15 am using the Friendly Limobus. I did not attempt to check other hotels. Just finding these should prove my point.

LapLap
Feb 5, 12, 12:40 pm
Well, I did not imagine leaving the Imperial Hotel at 21:05 and arriving at HND international terminal at 22:00.

For early morning departures from HND, one can leave TCAT at 4:55 and arrive at the international terminal only of HND at 5:10 am. For a hotel departure, you can leave from the Hilton at 4:25 am and arrive at the airport by 5:15 am using the Friendly Limobus. I did not attempt to check other hotels. Just finding these should prove my point.
I did miss something and am delighted you brought that information to the table. Very very useful! Thank you!

http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/en/platform_searches/index/3/22
shows that you can use the service from the Hilton in West Shinjuku

and this page
http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/en/platform_searches/index/3/10
shows it's available from TCAT (I could have sworn I was looking at TCAT earlier as this was the first place I searched :confused: )

Searching the timetables for all the areas is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

O Sora
Jun 15, 12, 12:01 pm
By Kamata Station (JR) there are several other manga cafes, including a couple of Manbo places. You can get there on foot from Keikyu Kamata and there's a bus to the airport from around there too.

OT, sorry. Those also include the one where one of the cult Aum Supreme Truth subway sarin gas attack fugitives got arrested yesterday.

News article by Akiko Fujita, ABC : http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/06/japanese-cult-member-arrested-after-17-years-on-the-run/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

RichardInSF
Jun 15, 12, 12:12 pm
OT, sorry. Those also include the one where one of the cult Aum Supreme Truth subway sarin gas attack fugitives got arrested yesterday.

News article by Akiko Fujita, ABC : http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/06/japanese-cult-member-arrested-after-17-years-on-the-run/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

Wow, after all this time they finally got the last one. Good for them!

5khours
Jun 15, 12, 6:23 pm
Really off the wall suggestion, but you could spend the night at the Jonanjima Park campground (weather permitting). All you would need is insect repellent and a throw away ground cloth.



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