Aegean Airlines Miles&Bonus - A3 non *A codeshares?

Does A3 have codeshares with non *A airlines? I couldn't find any on the A3 website.

TIA,
Mike

Does A3 have codeshares with non *A airlines? I couldn't find any on the A3 website.

TIA,
Mike

Try

pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_Aéreos

Thanks. that webpage doesn't mention an A3 codeshare.

There are several codeshares with Olympic Air (OA)

Thanks. where is this mentioned? any codeshares with other airlines?

Yes, "all" codeshares are listed at airlineroute.net (http://airlineroute.net/2011/08/08/cs-aug2011/). The list is not completely up-to-date, but he also has a news category for codeshare news (http://airlineroute.net/category/codeshare/) you can follow if you're interested.

Thanks ^

A3 also has a codeshare agreement with OA on the ATH-LHR-ATH route. More are being introduced with OA also .

Just wanted to share my experience with you, as I had recently flown ATH-SOF-ATH with an OA turboprop and codeshare with A3.

Even though I bought an A3 ticket, in order to get a *G status by the end of the month, after I made the trip, i called M&B to check the situation with the miles (as there was a problem to insert the M&B number). And guess what... No miles were accredited, as even if I have paid an A3 ticket, as OA is not part of star alliance, no miles can be accredited on my account (!).

After I called the M&B department, I sent a complain as an e-mail, stating all the situation, but until now, they haven't even answered... More than a week without reply.

Have any ideas on how to handle the situation? Or i'm the ultimate marketing victim :D for buying a slightly more expensive ticket, without getting at least those miles??

Just wanted to share my experience with you, as I had recently flown ATH-SOF-ATH with an OA turboprop and codeshare with A3.

Even though I bought an A3 ticket, in order to get a *G status by the end of the month, after I made the trip, i called M&B to check the situation with the miles (as there was a problem to insert the M&B number). And guess what... No miles were accredited, as even if I have paid an A3 ticket, as OA is not part of star alliance, no miles can be accredited on my account (!).

After I called the M&B department, I sent a complain as an e-mail, stating all the situation, but until now, they haven't even answered... More than a week without reply.

Have any ideas on how to handle the situation? Or i'm the ultimate marketing victim :D for buying a slightly more expensive ticket, without getting at least those miles??

no mistake by A3. flown metal counts. and if the carrier isn't member of *A why should you get miles anyway?

sorry but there is no reason to complain.

Welcome to FT and to the A3 forum, mmystery!

Sadly, this is true. It is standard inside *A that operating carrier is paying for the miles, and so if the operating carrier is not *A you cannot get any miles.

Even when it comes to a codeshare where the operating is *A, one can get fooled because the booking class on the codeshared ticket may not be the same booking class the operating carrier uses to award miles. That means that even if it looks like you booked into a earning booking class, the operating carrier may translate this to another non-earning class.

For *A my rule of thumb is: If miles are important, stay away from codeshares.

Dear intuition, I want to thank you for welcoming me into this forum! I'm very glad I can share my thoughts and opinions regarding miles n points!!! :cool:

Indeed, as you mentioned the payment policies for the miles between the carriers, I can understand the difference. Even though I like collecting miles etc, I am not obliged to know beforehand that miles are NOT credited, even if I buy an A3 ticket from Aegean website. Nowhere states that no miles are accredited, with the exception of a small and the last footnote. Anyway with mistakes you learn, uh! :D Even if no answer to my mail for a week!

Dear roland_wa, as I am paying the ticket to A3, why shouldn't get any miles though? ;) This is the first logical question. Moreover as I mentioned above, hiding their policy for codeshares with OA in small footnotes, it's not the best practice in the world. And I'm talking as someone who really likes and supports A3.

I know OA isn't in *A, but are they included on some list of Aegean's partners? Some programs credit miles from non alliance partners, although not partners of your partners. It might even be possible to credit miles from a non alliance partner flight booked on its own flight number but not when booked as a codeshare.

I agree and try hard to follow the advice of avoiding codeshares too, although if you book by phone or through some websites, you might not know it, even though they might (USA law says this, but I don't know exactly when it applies) be required to disclose the operating carrier. In other words, you can be told who operates the flight, but not that it is being booked under a codeshare number.

I know OA isn't in *A, but are they included on some list of Aegean's partners? Some programs credit miles from non alliance partners, although not partners of your partners. It might even be possible to credit miles from a non alliance partner flight booked on its own flight number but not when booked as a codeshare.

It may be, some experienced users with A3 could answer on this...

Either way, they should make it clear straight from the beginning when you buy their ticket from their site that you cannot collect any miles from a codeshare with OA... just to make fair business with their customers. especially loyal ones during these hard days for Greek companies...

There was serious discussions between OA and A3 for a merger - but it got dismissed by EU law. I don't think there are any partnership left between them, and OA is not in the earnings table.

(but in theory yes - many airlines have partners from outside any alliance, and they can have other arrangements for earnings)


@mmystery: Yes it is difficult to know, and defies the logic from a consumer perspective. But, this is the way *A works. We can at least be thankful that *A rules are very uniform, so this principle will apply to any *A codeshare (in oneworld surprisingly, marketing carrier usually pays the miles, but you can't be sure!)

Your best shot would be to plead your case, in a humble tone, as this was something you didn't understand and since it was the flight that would have made you gold, you are asking for a one-time favour. The chance is slim, but it may work.

It may be, some experienced users with A3 could answer on this...

Either way, they should make it clear straight from the beginning when you buy their ticket from their site that you cannot collect any miles from a codeshare with OA... just to make fair business with their customers. especially loyal ones during these hard days for Greek companies...
My dear mmystery, I do consider myself to be among the "experienced users with A3." Not only am I among the few here who have actually flown Aegean, I've even done it long before they entered *A.

My comments were intended to help to educate you about the possibility for a FF program to credit miles from non alliance partners as well as some possible variations in how codeshares are treated. However, I never had any particular reason to investigate the specific question of whether A3 currently has any non alliance partners, OA or others, and it's not my job to do other people's research work for them. IIRC LH was a partner of A3 before they joined *A. The A3 website contains extensive lists of mileage earnings by fare class on all airlines permitting earning in the A3 program and is pretty clear that the operating carrier matters (which is consistent across *A). Also, AFAIK all airlines that use codeshares disclose the operating carrier at the time of booking. (This is required by a USA law or regulation but I don't know how it relates to overseas carriers, in particular whether it extends to all ticket sales in the USA or by USA-based travel agencies.)

@intuition: This is what i did, as I have noticed the small footnote! All the e-mail was a huge "pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease"! lol :p Thanks for your support intuition, you're great!!

@MSPeconomist: Seems that what I wrote on my reply offended you. Didn't wanted to offend you on your flying experience and knowledge with A3 or generally *A! You seem very experienced on these forums by your posts activity and by reading your miles programmes you're actually enrolled! I hope one day I can achieve all those statutes, like you! :D

Yes, of course at booking time on AegeanAir, the booking engine clearly state which operating carrier is flying. It didn't stated clearly that miles cannot be earned. Even on the extensive list of mileage earnings does not state that codeshares with OA are not eligible.


PS Hoping that finally I will get that *G soon!!! ahahhah

...Yes, of course at booking time on AegeanAir, the booking engine clearly state which operating carrier is flying. It didn't stated clearly that miles cannot be earned. Even on the extensive list of mileage earnings does not state that codeshares with OA are not eligible...I doubt that my answer adds much to the discussion but, nevertheless, I'd like to point out two mistakes in your last reply:

1) The booking engine has, directly, nothing to do with M&B; it is also used by non-members and, like is the case with most airlines, it does not, indeed, show the miles earned. Of course, one could ask for a miles calculator to be there, the way LH and others have (often working after booking, though), but the info is available elsewhere if one looks around.

2) The description of the programme (see here (http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/earn-miles/) for earning miles) clearly states:

• Each time you fly on scheduled Aegean Airlines or any Star Alliance partners’ operated flights.

So, since OA isn't in *A, the info is absolutely correct. I agree that other alliances (e.g. Skyteam) and airlines have different rules, yet dura lex sed lex!